• Culture clashes in Manufacturing and elsewhere

    From Lars Poulsen@21:1/5 to rbowman on Tue Jan 14 17:40:36 2025
    On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 10:26:02 +0100, D wrote:
    The company should have offered language classes for everyones safety!
    This sounds like swedish/danish cooperative ventures, where each group
    insist that the other can understand them, since the language are so
    close. This never works.

    On 2025-01-13, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
    Some of the extra material on the Bron/Broen DVDs mentioned that :) One of the Swedish actresses mentioned being on a bus in Copenhagen, hearing a
    girl say 'skumfidus', and thinking it must be something dirty.
    ...
    The molding plant I referred to had moved from Connecticut to rural
    Georgia, attracted by cheap labor. They had not taken into account the difference in work ethic. As the week progressed the work force thinned
    out. By Friday there weren't many people besides our crew and the foreman
    who had relocated from Connecticut. I think he was in his 40's but had a heart attack, possibly brought on by dealing with the frustration.

    The town was dry so we had to go to Athens, about 30 miles away, for R&R.
    The university was there so it was a little more civilized. Madison billed itself as the only town Sherman didn't burn on his way to the sea.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison,_Georgia

    This was the early '70s and southern rock was just starting to take off. I had long hair and a beard and after staring at me for a while the busboy
    at the local restaurant finally worked up the courage to come over and ask 'Are y'all one of them rock musicians?" About 10 years later Athens would spawn R.E.M as rural Georgia caught up with the US.

    See also the documentary movie "American Factory" about how a Chinese
    owned multi-national car glass company tried to open a factory in a
    former GM plant in Ohio. (Around 2015, IIRC)

    Or the 1985 comedy "Gung Ho" about a fictional Japanese auto company
    setting up shop in Pennsylvania.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to Lars Poulsen on Wed Jan 15 01:57:47 2025
    On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 17:40:36 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:

    Or the 1985 comedy "Gung Ho" about a fictional Japanese auto company
    setting up shop in Pennsylvania.

    The delays with TSMC's Arizona plant weren't a comedy. I think half the workforce is still from Taiwan.

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  • From 186283@ud0s4.net@21:1/5 to rbowman on Wed Jan 15 00:29:40 2025
    On 1/14/25 8:57 PM, rbowman wrote:
    On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 17:40:36 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:

    Or the 1985 comedy "Gung Ho" about a fictional Japanese auto company
    setting up shop in Pennsylvania.

    Was that the one with Michael Keaton ? Never
    really liked him - something just irritating
    about his personality.

    The delays with TSMC's Arizona plant weren't a comedy. I think half the workforce is still from Taiwan.

    Well, communications CAN be a problem ... can't expect
    all workers to learn Japanese, Chinese or English. Some
    of the latest tech can help a bit, but it's not smooth.

    Hmmm ... maybe a 'virtual factory' where all parts
    aren't on the same continent. Govts won't like it
    but for practical issues ......

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to 186282@ud0s4.net on Wed Jan 15 06:27:30 2025
    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 00:29:40 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

    Hmmm ... maybe a 'virtual factory' where all parts aren't on the same
    continent. Govts won't like it but for practical issues ......

    Having the parts on Taiwan is worrisome. Someday the PRC may stop rattling
    its sabers and get serious. They don't have anyone across the North Sea thinking about annexing them but having ASML as a sole source is another potential problem.

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  • From 186283@ud0s4.net@21:1/5 to rbowman on Wed Jan 15 01:51:31 2025
    On 1/15/25 1:27 AM, rbowman wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 00:29:40 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

    Hmmm ... maybe a 'virtual factory' where all parts aren't on the same
    continent. Govts won't like it but for practical issues ......

    Having the parts on Taiwan is worrisome. Someday the PRC may stop rattling its sabers and get serious. They don't have anyone across the North Sea thinking about annexing them but having ASML as a sole source is another potential problem.

    I tend to agree about Taiwan.

    Hmm ... how about subdividing the factory into
    Chinese and American sections - each doing their
    thing ?

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  • From D@21:1/5 to 186282@ud0s4.net on Wed Jan 15 10:11:50 2025
    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

    On 1/14/25 8:57 PM, rbowman wrote:
    On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 17:40:36 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:

    Or the 1985 comedy "Gung Ho" about a fictional Japanese auto company
    setting up shop in Pennsylvania.

    Was that the one with Michael Keaton ? Never
    really liked him - something just irritating
    about his personality.

    I think the key here is just to invite him over for coffee and see where
    it leads!

    The delays with TSMC's Arizona plant weren't a comedy. I think half the
    workforce is still from Taiwan.

    Well, communications CAN be a problem ... can't expect
    all workers to learn Japanese, Chinese or English. Some
    of the latest tech can help a bit, but it's not smooth.

    That is why god invented esperanto! Force everyone to learn esperanto, and
    no one can complain about being treated unfairly, and there will be
    universal love and happiness! ;)

    Hmmm ... maybe a 'virtual factory' where all parts
    aren't on the same continent. Govts won't like it
    but for practical issues ......


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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 15 23:06:19 2025
    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 10:11:50 +0100, D wrote:

    That is why god invented esperanto! Force everyone to learn esperanto,
    and no one can complain about being treated unfairly, and there will be universal love and happiness!

    I was fascinated by Esperanto when I was a kid. UNESCO was pushing it in
    the '50s. It's a good thing those pre-teen fascinations don't last long.

    https://owlcation.com/humanities/The-Wonderful-Horrible-History-of- Esperanto-the-Universal-Language

    tl;dr Synopsis: Zamenhof tried to invent a new Yiddish to unite humanity
    into a beige colored mass all speaking the same pidgin whatever. Hitler
    wasn't amused and singled out the language in 'Mein Kampf'.

    I'm surprised the globalists haven't rolled it out again although it is
    rather Eurocentric in derivation.

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  • From 186283@ud0s4.net@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 15 23:39:54 2025
    On 1/15/25 4:11 AM, D wrote:


    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

    On 1/14/25 8:57 PM, rbowman wrote:
    On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 17:40:36 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:

    Or the 1985 comedy "Gung Ho" about a fictional Japanese auto company
    setting up shop in Pennsylvania.

     Was that the one with Michael Keaton ? Never
     really liked him - something just irritating
     about his personality.

    I think the key here is just to invite him over for coffee and see where
    it leads!

    Whisky bottle over the head most likely ... :-)

    The delays with TSMC's Arizona plant weren't a comedy. I think half the
    workforce is still from Taiwan.

     Well, communications CAN be a problem ... can't expect
     all workers to learn Japanese, Chinese or English. Some
     of the latest tech can help a bit, but it's not smooth.

    That is why god invented esperanto! Force everyone to learn esperanto,
    and no one can complain about being treated unfairly, and there will be universal love and happiness! ;)

    Esperanto - AAAUUGH !!!

    Even thus, too 'Euro' - the Wokies/anti-colonialists
    will never approve now. HAS to be based on Hindi or
    Sikh or something. The more West-Hating the better !

    Anyway, even English didn't become "universal"
    despite the UK owning half the world for a century+

    The tech is kinda here for good real-time 'universal
    translators' however ... spoken word -2- spoken word
    with little detectable delay.


     Hmmm ... maybe a 'virtual factory' where all parts
     aren't on the same continent. Govts won't like it
     but for practical issues ......


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  • From D@21:1/5 to rbowman on Thu Jan 16 11:56:06 2025
    On Thu, 15 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:

    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 10:11:50 +0100, D wrote:

    That is why god invented esperanto! Force everyone to learn esperanto,
    and no one can complain about being treated unfairly, and there will be
    universal love and happiness!

    I was fascinated by Esperanto when I was a kid. UNESCO was pushing it in
    the '50s. It's a good thing those pre-teen fascinations don't last long.

    https://owlcation.com/humanities/The-Wonderful-Horrible-History-of- Esperanto-the-Universal-Language

    tl;dr Synopsis: Zamenhof tried to invent a new Yiddish to unite humanity into a beige colored mass all speaking the same pidgin whatever. Hitler wasn't amused and singled out the language in 'Mein Kampf'.

    I'm surprised the globalists haven't rolled it out again although it is rather Eurocentric in derivation.

    I think that is the answer. Since europe is white, it would be a political impossibility. If it would have originated in africa, we'd all be speaking n'speranto by now. ;) Imagine... only being allowed to work if you passed
    your n'speranto tests!

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  • From D@21:1/5 to 186282@ud0s4.net on Thu Jan 16 16:51:59 2025
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    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

    On 1/15/25 4:11 AM, D wrote:


    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

    On 1/14/25 8:57 PM, rbowman wrote:
    On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 17:40:36 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:

    Or the 1985 comedy "Gung Ho" about a fictional Japanese auto company >>>>> setting up shop in Pennsylvania.

     Was that the one with Michael Keaton ? Never
     really liked him - something just irritating
     about his personality.

    I think the key here is just to invite him over for coffee and see where it >> leads!

    Whisky bottle over the head most likely ... :-)

    That's a great way to start a new friendship! =D

    The delays with TSMC's Arizona plant weren't a comedy. I think half the >>>> workforce is still from Taiwan.

     Well, communications CAN be a problem ... can't expect
     all workers to learn Japanese, Chinese or English. Some
     of the latest tech can help a bit, but it's not smooth.

    That is why god invented esperanto! Force everyone to learn esperanto, and >> no one can complain about being treated unfairly, and there will be
    universal love and happiness! ;)

    Esperanto - AAAUUGH !!!

    Even thus, too 'Euro' - the Wokies/anti-colonialists
    will never approve now. HAS to be based on Hindi or
    Sikh or something. The more West-Hating the better !

    This is the truth!

    Anyway, even English didn't become "universal"
    despite the UK owning half the world for a century+

    The tech is kinda here for good real-time 'universal
    translators' however ... spoken word -2- spoken word
    with little detectable delay.



     Hmmm ... maybe a 'virtual factory' where all parts
     aren't on the same continent. Govts won't like it
     but for practical issues ......




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