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  • Fedora 42 pre-releae

    From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 2 22:41:50 2025
    fwiw upgrading my Fedora box from 41 to the 42 pre-releae KDE Plasma
    version for Fedora Test Days went well. I did have to remove python3-qt5- webkit but I suspect if I had run the 'remove unused packages' tool it
    would have been gone long ago.

    It is using the 6.14.0 kernel.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to rbowman on Thu Apr 3 09:00:48 2025
    rbowman wrote:

    fwiw upgrading my Fedora box from 41 to the 42 pre-releae KDE Plasma
    version for Fedora Test Days went well.

    After upgrading to 41 I noticed my fedora box had some rawhide packages installed (presumably I'm responsible, but I haven't wanted to use it
    for about a decade, so disabled repos)

    It still runs fine, but I'm expecting the upgrade to 42 to be "interesting"

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Thu Apr 3 05:58:04 2025
    On 4/3/25 4:00 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
    rbowman wrote:

    fwiw upgrading my Fedora box from 41 to the 42 pre-releae KDE Plasma
    version for Fedora Test Days went well.

    After upgrading to 41 I noticed my fedora box had some rawhide packages installed (presumably I'm responsible, but I haven't wanted to use it
    for about a decade, so disabled repos)

    It still runs fine, but I'm expecting the upgrade to 42 to be "interesting"


    41 is "good". Hopefully 42 will be equally good - but,
    these days, it's maybe better to wait for a .1 release -
    they tend to launch a tad TOO soon of late. BookWorm
    was the same way - indeed seemed DEDICATED to making
    sure the stuff I used most wouldn't work :-) Also way
    too 'Buntu ... who the hell did they hire ??? Deb is
    supposed to be 'core', 'the foundation', boring but
    super solid/consistent.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 3 18:57:31 2025
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:58:04 -0400, c186282 wrote:

    41 is "good". Hopefully 42 will be equally good - but, these days,
    it's maybe better to wait for a .1 release -
    they tend to launch a tad TOO soon of late. BookWorm was the same way
    - indeed seemed DEDICATED to making sure the stuff I used most
    wouldn't work Also way too 'Buntu ... who the hell did they hire
    ??? Deb is supposed to be 'core', 'the foundation', boring but super
    solid/consistent.

    I think it was 39 to 40 that was a little rocky for a few weeks in the KDE spin. There was a lot going on with Qt, KDE, and Wayland that took sorting
    out. So far 42 has been a non-event. I ran through all the stuff I use
    with no problems.

    The only problem I've had recently was with the Raspberry Pi OS. The
    kernel was optimized for RPi 5 and whatever was updated in VS Code did not
    play well so I had to move back to the RPi 4 kernel.

    Ubuntu had some updates Monday and they didn't break anything either.

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to rbowman on Thu Apr 3 16:02:53 2025
    On 4/3/25 2:57 PM, rbowman wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:58:04 -0400, c186282 wrote:

    41 is "good". Hopefully 42 will be equally good - but, these days,
    it's maybe better to wait for a .1 release -
    they tend to launch a tad TOO soon of late. BookWorm was the same way
    - indeed seemed DEDICATED to making sure the stuff I used most
    wouldn't work Also way too 'Buntu ... who the hell did they hire
    ??? Deb is supposed to be 'core', 'the foundation', boring but super
    solid/consistent.

    I think it was 39 to 40 that was a little rocky for a few weeks in the KDE spin. There was a lot going on with Qt, KDE, and Wayland that took sorting out. So far 42 has been a non-event. I ran through all the stuff I use
    with no problems.

    The only problem I've had recently was with the Raspberry Pi OS. The
    kernel was optimized for RPi 5 and whatever was updated in VS Code did not play well so I had to move back to the RPi 4 kernel.

    Ubuntu had some updates Monday and they didn't break anything either.

    I initially tried f41-LXDE early on and it was NOT ready
    for prime time. The XFCE spin WAS good however.

    Pi-5 is just kinda WEIRD ... I wish they'd gone some
    other direction, even if it meant more of a wait, in
    order to increase compatibility with the older PIs.

    I just stopped using Ubuntu some years ago - it kept,
    pointlessly, deviating from Deb in too many ways ...
    plus Canonical was relentless promoting its 'cloud'
    junk (hard to install without it). Mostly these days
    I'm happy with MX (but DID have to use MX-AHS on
    that new n150 mini-box I bought).

    Anyway, Ralf solved my NHS problem today and I'm
    in a good mood.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 4 01:23:21 2025
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 16:02:53 -0400, c186282 wrote:


    I initially tried f41-LXDE early on and it was NOT ready for prime
    time. The XFCE spin WAS good however.

    I put Lubuntu on an old netbook, It had originally used LXDE but switched
    to LXQt because of LXDE problems. Good thing they both start with 'L'. My Debian box is XFCE. My preference is KDE but I can live with almost any
    DE.

    Pi-5 is just kinda WEIRD ... I wish they'd gone some other direction,
    even if it meant more of a wait, in order to increase compatibility
    with the older PIs.

    It is in a strange niche. I bought the Canakit which has a heat sink,
    fan, and a heavier power supply. It doesn't run super hot but the fan
    isn't for decoration only. I bought a 3B+ last week for another project
    and it's a lot less hungry. Works fine although I went with the legacy
    Bullseye version rather than Bookworm. My Debian box is still Bullseye
    too.


    I just stopped using Ubuntu some years ago - it kept, pointlessly,
    deviating from Deb in too many ways ... plus Canonical was relentless
    promoting its 'cloud' junk (hard to install without it). Mostly these
    days I'm happy with MX (but DID have to use MX-AHS on that new n150
    mini-box I bought).

    The Ubuntu wasn't a planned thing. My original intent was to put Kubuntu
    on the Beelink SER4 but I had problems with the iso. I had a Ubuntu iso
    handy and it worked. I don't customize a DE or change anything beyond the
    left handed mouse so like I said I can live with almost anything as long
    as I can find the apps I use. I do use Konsole on Ubuntu rather than gnome-terminal.

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