vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> writes:^COLA
Some of us folks are trying to be topical in cola. Still, it needs
a fairly robust killfile, because it gets a lot of political spam.
(For a while, I was posting build reports in there as new
kernels came out, but there doesn't seem to be much interest.)
One could argue that Linux advocacy isn't all that necessary
anymore, since it has already all but taken over the planet.
(Except for the desktop, of course -- that is still a Windows world.)
There are still occasionally Linux-v-something-else arguments and in principle is a good place to tell people to take those to. In practice
some people have zero self control.
Some of us folks are trying to be topical in cola. Still, it needs
a fairly robust killfile, because it gets a lot of political spam.
(For a while, I was posting build reports in there as new
kernels came out, but there doesn't seem to be much interest.)
One could argue that Linux advocacy isn't all that necessary
anymore, since it has already all but taken over the planet.
(Except for the desktop, of course -- that is still a Windows world.)
As for IPV6 ... my ISP doesn't use it. NO use at
all - so I disable it to prevent problems.
On 2025-05-18 05:45, c186282 wrote:
As for IPV6 ... my ISP doesn't use it. NO use at
all - so I disable it to prevent problems.
I don't have any problem with it enabled.
I think I had some issue years ago, bu I have forgotten about it.
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-05-18 05:45, c186282 wrote:
As for IPV6 ... my ISP doesn't use it. NO use at
all - so I disable it to prevent problems.
I don't have any problem with it enabled.
I think I had some issue years ago, bu I have forgotten about it.
that's how it's supposed to work. On the Internet Exchance Points, the majority of traffic is IPv6 in these days.
On 2025-05-19 08:14, Marc Haber wrote:
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-05-18 05:45, c186282 wrote:
As for IPV6 ... my ISP doesn't use it. NO use at
all - so I disable it to prevent problems.
I don't have any problem with it enabled.
I think I had some issue years ago, bu I have forgotten about it.
that's how it's supposed to work. On the Internet Exchance Points, the
majority of traffic is IPv6 in these days.
It is my ISP who has a problem. They haven't said which, but my educated >guess is that many of the routers they installed are faulty. For
example, mine does not protect the LAN with a firewall on IPv6, all
machines are directly exposed.
vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2025 10:02:22 +0200, Marc Haber >><mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> wrote in <100c46e$3c1el$1@news1.tnib.de>:
As for IPV6 ... my ISP doesn't use it. NO use at all - so I disable
it to prevent problems.
That's a really stupid idea.
I suggest he enable it from time to time to see if the ISP
has got it working.
I suggest not disabling it in in the first place. It doesn't hurt when
it's unused and unconfigured.
vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2025 10:02:22 +0200, Marc Haber
<mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> wrote in <100c46e$3c1el$1@news1.tnib.de>: >>>> As for IPV6 ... my ISP doesn't use it. NO use at all - so I disable >>>> it to prevent problems.
That's a really stupid idea.
I suggest he enable it from time to time to see if the ISP
has got it working.
I suggest not disabling it in in the first place. It doesn't hurt when
it's unused and unconfigured.
Greetings
Marc
On 2025-05-20, Marc Haber wrote:
Maybe what's missing here for some of the affected people is configuring address lookup to prefer IPv4 if they're using nameservers that return
AAAA records?
(Just a wild guess, but fitting enough that it's probably a good idea to
drop this here:)
news://news.gmane.io/m3msju6x5x.fsf@lugabout.jhcloos.org
Although I'm not sure, from the gai.conf online manual page, that just
the mentioned line is sufficient, given it's said to disable the
"default table". I didn't test this myself.
On 20/05/2025 09:00, Marc Haber wrote:
vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:Oh but it does, when you get ipV6 addresses returned by DNS and you cant >reach them...
On Sun, 18 May 2025 10:02:22 +0200, Marc Haber
<mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> wrote in <100c46e$3c1el$1@news1.tnib.de>: >>>>> As for IPV6 ... my ISP doesn't use it. NO use at all - so I disable >>>>> it to prevent problems.
That's a really stupid idea.
I suggest he enable it from time to time to see if the ISP
has got it working.
I suggest not disabling it in in the first place. It doesn't hurt when
it's unused and unconfigured.
On 2025-05-20, Marc Haber wrote:
vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2025 10:02:22 +0200, Marc Haber >>><mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> wrote in <100c46e$3c1el$1@news1.tnib.de>: >>>>> As for IPV6 ... my ISP doesn't use it. NO use at all - so I disable >>>>> it to prevent problems.
That's a really stupid idea.
I suggest he enable it from time to time to see if the ISP
has got it working.
I suggest not disabling it in in the first place. It doesn't hurt when
it's unused and unconfigured.
Maybe what's missing here for some of the affected people is configuring >address lookup to prefer IPv4 if they're using nameservers that return
AAAA records?
(Just a wild guess, but fitting enough that it's probably a good idea to
drop this here:)
news://news.gmane.io/m3msju6x5x.fsf@lugabout.jhcloos.org
Although I'm not sure, from the gai.conf online manual page, that just
the mentioned line is sufficient, given it's said to disable the
"default table". I didn't test this myself.
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 20/05/2025 09:00, Marc Haber wrote:
vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:Oh but it does, when you get ipV6 addresses returned by DNS and you cant
On Sun, 18 May 2025 10:02:22 +0200, Marc Haber
<mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> wrote in <100c46e$3c1el$1@news1.tnib.de>: >>>>>> As for IPV6 ... my ISP doesn't use it. NO use at all - so I disable >>>>>> it to prevent problems.
That's a really stupid idea.
I suggest he enable it from time to time to see if the ISP
has got it working.
I suggest not disabling it in in the first place. It doesn't hurt when
it's unused and unconfigured.
reach them...
And where is the problem with that?
Greetings
Marc
On 20/05/2025 11:21, Marc Haber wrote:
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:Suddenly you cant find websites
On 20/05/2025 09:00, Marc Haber wrote:
vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:Oh but it does, when you get ipV6 addresses returned by DNS and you cant >>> reach them...
On Sun, 18 May 2025 10:02:22 +0200, Marc Haber
<mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> wrote in <100c46e$3c1el$1@news1.tnib.de>: >>>>>>> As for IPV6 ... my ISP doesn't use it. NO use at all - so I disable >>>>>>> it to prevent problems.
That's a really stupid idea.
I suggest he enable it from time to time to see if the ISP
has got it working.
I suggest not disabling it in in the first place. It doesn't hurt when >>>> it's unused and unconfigured.
And where is the problem with that?
Method 1: Edit /etc/gai.conf to prefer IPv4
... (e.g., both A and AAAA records).
Later, it was decided that one of those IPv6 record types wasn’t worth >supporting, and so it was dropped. Of course it was the one with shorter, >easier-to-say name; while the one with the longer-and-harder-to-say name >became the standard way to do it ...
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