• Re: 25 kernels

    From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to Joel on Tue May 20 11:06:06 2025
    XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    Joel wrote:
    I'm doing far better without M$.


    Jobless and living off the government dole, far
    better than what, a homeless person?

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Wed May 21 10:45:22 2025
    On 5/21/25 10:38, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    Joel wrote:
    Rudy Canoza <rudy.c@jkone.not> wrote:

    I'm doing far better without M$.

    Jobless and living off the government dole, far
    better than what, a homeless person?


    Social Security income is earned, asswipe


    Nope, you're a lazy ass mooch on society, loser.

    No it is earned. Money is taken from your pay and
    invested in Government bonds. Then when you retire you
    get your taken money back adjusted for the Cost of Living.

    And I doubt Joel is a mooch.

    bliss

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to Bobbie Sellers on Wed May 21 22:30:28 2025
    On Wed, 21 May 2025 10:45:22 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    No it is earned. Money is taken from your pay and
    invested in Government bonds. Then when you retire you get your taken
    money back adjusted for the Cost of Living.

    That's the theory...

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to rbowman on Wed May 21 18:01:37 2025
    On 5/21/25 15:30, rbowman wrote:
    On Wed, 21 May 2025 10:45:22 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    No it is earned. Money is taken from your pay and
    invested in Government bonds. Then when you retire you get your taken
    money back adjusted for the Cost of Living.

    That's the theory...

    What evidence do you see that the theory is not carried out?

    The shortfalls that are predicted will be worse with the Inflationary budget now before Congress. The tax reliefe it gives is pretty much
    limited to people who have enough money to buy a Congressional
    represenative or Senator.

    I may not be alive when the shortfalls happen but the only reason
    it won't be worse is that most of my contemporaries and many younger
    friends have died.

    bliss

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Wed May 21 18:06:02 2025
    On 5/21/25 13:49, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    Joel wrote:
    Rudy Canoza <rudy.c@jkone.not> wrote:

    I'm doing far better without M$.

    Jobless and living off the government dole, far
    better than what, a homeless person?

    Social Security income is earned, asswipe

    Nope, you're a lazy ass mooch on society, loser.


    Nope, you're a moron who has no idea who and what I am, and what I've
    done for "society", ASSHOLE.  Drop dead or say it to my face, I'll
    fight you even with my left arm being impaired, because you're such a
    prick piece of human garbage.


    You're not only a lazy ass mooch on society, you're
    also a pillow biting limp wristed sissy keyboard warrior.


    Stop looking at his pillows, you voyeur.
    You don't know why his arm is impaired.
    Keyboard Warrior is at least a warrior and not a bully trying to
    force his antiquated views on others who are happy living the way
    that they can.

    bliss


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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to rbowman on Thu May 22 09:00:55 2025
    On 21/05/2025 23:30, rbowman wrote:
    On Wed, 21 May 2025 10:45:22 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    No it is earned. Money is taken from your pay and
    invested in Government bonds. Then when you retire you get your taken
    money back adjusted for the Cost of Living.

    That's the theory...
    It isn't even the theory.

    The theory is a Ponzi scheme. An expanding economy and inflation will
    mean that paying today's pensioners with today's taxes works fine.

    So long as you import enough taxpayers and cause enough inflation
    Last years taxes have already been spent.

    --
    “Progress is precisely that which rules and regulations did not foresee,”

    – Ludwig von Mises

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to tnp@invalid.invalid on Thu May 22 12:34:13 2025
    On Thu, 22 May 2025 09:00:55 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote in <100mljn$3c4os$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 21/05/2025 23:30, rbowman wrote:
    On Wed, 21 May 2025 10:45:22 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

    No it is earned. Money is taken from your pay and
    invested in Government bonds. Then when you retire you get your taken
    money back adjusted for the Cost of Living.

    That's the theory...
    It isn't even the theory.

    The theory is a Ponzi scheme.

    You heard it here first, folks: insurance programs are
    "Ponzi schemes".

    Thank goodness I read colm! It's not like politics haven't
    taken over every other corner of the USENET...

    An expanding economy and inflation will
    mean that paying today's pensioners with today's taxes works fine.

    So long as you import enough taxpayers and cause enough inflation
    Last years taxes have already been spent.

    --
    -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
    OS: Linux 6.14.7 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
    "Excuse me while I dance a little jig of despair"

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Thu May 22 08:56:34 2025
    On 5/22/25 01:00, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 21/05/2025 23:30, rbowman wrote:
    On Wed, 21 May 2025 10:45:22 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

        No it is earned. Money is taken from your pay and
    invested in Government bonds. Then when you retire you get your taken
    money back adjusted for the Cost of Living.

    That's the theory...
    It isn't even the theory.

    The theory is a Ponzi scheme. An expanding economy and inflation will
    mean that paying today's pensioners with today's taxes works fine.

    So long as you import enough  taxpayers and cause enough inflation
    Last years taxes have already been spent.

    No you are confused because a Ponzi scheme pays not from Government Bonds
    but from the private investments of the people taken in by the
    organizer(s) of the
    scheme. Those who are not so rich try to avoid taxes legally and otherwise.
    The government bonds struggle against inflation. If more investors had Government bonds or paid their proper income taxes as under Eisenhower then
    we would have much less inflation of the currency. The larger private
    fortunes get
    the more chance that some very rich people will do there best to
    untermine government.
    You need to read "Capital in the 21st Century" by Thomas Piketty to
    inform yourself.
    It is a hard read. He has written a sequel but I have yet to see it.
    Been busy with
    more entertaining matters such as breaking my ankle.

    bliss

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Bobbie Sellers on Thu May 22 20:12:15 2025
    On 22/05/2025 16:56, Bobbie Sellers wrote:


    On 5/22/25 01:00, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 21/05/2025 23:30, rbowman wrote:
    On Wed, 21 May 2025 10:45:22 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

        No it is earned. Money is taken from your pay and
    invested in Government bonds. Then when you retire you get your taken
    money back adjusted for the Cost of Living.

    That's the theory...
    It isn't even the theory.

    The theory is a Ponzi scheme. An expanding economy and inflation will
    mean that paying today's pensioners with today's taxes works fine.

    So long as you import enough  taxpayers and cause enough inflation
    Last years taxes have already been spent.

        No you are confused because a Ponzi scheme pays not from Government Bonds
    but from the private investments of the people taken in by the
    organizer(s) of the
    scheme.

    Yes. IN this case the government.


    Those who are not so rich try to avoid taxes legally and otherwise.
     The government bonds struggle against inflation. If more investors had Government bonds or paid their proper income taxes as under Eisenhower then we would have much less inflation of the currency. The larger private fortunes get
    the more chance that some very rich people will do there best to
    untermine government.

    Taxes do not go into government bonds
    Bo country except perhaps Norway funds social security of any sort from anything expect this years taxes and this years borrowing


    You need to read "Capital in  the 21st Century" by Thomas Piketty to
    inform yourself.
    It is a hard read. He has written a sequel but I have yet to see it.
    Been busy with
    more entertaining matters such as breaking my ankle.


    I think you should read it again.


    "Government debt is at £2.8 trillion and Rachel Reeves is borrowing
    another £40bn

    Britain is sleep-walking into financial Armageddon and no government or politician has the knowledge, ability or will to stop it.

    The state financial system is one big pay-as-we-go Ponzi scheme. Those
    at the bottom, workers and businesses, contribute through taxation,
    while those at the top, pensioners and those on benefits, immediately
    withdraw the money.

    There is no pot of money to fund them and nothing is put aside for a
    rainy day."

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/pensions/state-pensions/state-pension-ponzi-scheme-britain-financial-armageddon/
        bliss


    --
    Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's
    too dark to read.

    Groucho Marx

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Thu May 22 13:12:58 2025
    On 5/22/25 12:12, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 22/05/2025 16:56, Bobbie Sellers wrote:


    On 5/22/25 01:00, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 21/05/2025 23:30, rbowman wrote:
    On Wed, 21 May 2025 10:45:22 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

        No it is earned. Money is taken from your pay and
    invested in Government bonds. Then when you retire you get your taken >>>>> money back adjusted for the Cost of Living.

    That's the theory...
    It isn't even the theory.

    The theory is a Ponzi scheme. An expanding economy and inflation will
    mean that paying today's pensioners with today's taxes works fine.

    So long as you import enough  taxpayers and cause enough inflation
    Last years taxes have already been spent.

         No you are confused because a Ponzi scheme pays not from
    Government Bonds
    but from the private investments of the people taken in by the
    organizer(s) of the
    scheme.

    Yes. IN this case the government.


    Those who are not so rich try to avoid taxes legally and otherwise.
      The government bonds struggle against inflation. If more investors had >> Government bonds or paid their proper income taxes as under Eisenhower
    then
    we would have much less inflation of the currency. The larger private
    fortunes get
    the more chance that some very rich people will do there best to
    untermine government.

    Taxes do not go into government bonds
    Bo country except perhaps Norway funds social security of any sort from anything expect this years taxes and this years borrowing

    No that is what is done specifically with Social Security Taxes in the USA.
    the bonds are used to back other options in the budget as well.


    You need to read "Capital in  the 21st Century" by Thomas Piketty to
    inform yourself.
    It is a hard read. He has written a sequel but I have yet to see it.
    Been busy with
    more entertaining matters such as breaking my ankle.


    I think you should read it again.


    "Government debt is at £2.8 trillion and Rachel Reeves is borrowing
    another £40bn

    Britain is sleep-walking into financial Armageddon and no government or politician has the knowledge, ability or will to stop it.

    The state financial system is one big pay-as-we-go Ponzi scheme. Those
    at the bottom, workers and businesses, contribute through taxation,
    while those at the top, pensioners and those on benefits, immediately withdraw the money.

    There is no pot of money to fund them and nothing is put aside for a
    rainy day."

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/pensions/state-pensions/state-pension- ponzi-scheme-britain-financial-armageddon/
         bliss


    bliss

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