My goal: On the same router x.x.x.16 (Tumbleweed) x.x.x.44 Leap15.6 to communicate via FTP

On Tumbleweed using Filezilla client

I know I need a server on at least one end: On Leap I was trying
"pure-ftpd" server. It claimed to be simple, but has many options (not explained). So I don't know how to set it up.

When started su on Leap /usr/sbin/pure-ftpd The cursor disappears and
until a ctrl-c, reappears so I assume it started.

On filezilla contacting I get "can't reach server - EHOSTUNREACH

So, NO-GO ----- Any help or wisdom out there?

Thanks, Paul

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Paul R Schmidtbleicher <prschmi@attglobal.net> writes:

My goal: On the same router x.x.x.16 (Tumbleweed) x.x.x.44 Leap15.6 to communicate via FTP

On Tumbleweed using Filezilla client

I know I need a server on at least one end: On Leap I was trying
"pure-ftpd" server. It claimed to be simple, but has many options
(not explained). So I don't know how to set it up.

When started su on Leap /usr/sbin/pure-ftpd The cursor disappears and
until a ctrl-c, reappears so I assume it started.

On filezilla contacting I get "can't reach server - EHOSTUNREACH

I don’t know filezilla but if it’s reporting the error accurately then
your problem is most likely at the networking layer, and nothing do with
the server software as such.

Can the client ping the server? If not then ftp is a non-starter. You
will need to review the networking configuration on both endpoints and
on your router (or any other networking equipment involved).

--
https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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On 05.07.2025 11:28 Uhr Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

My goal: On the same router x.x.x.16 (Tumbleweed) x.x.x.44 Leap15.6
to communicate via FTP

On Tumbleweed using Filezilla client

I know I need a server on at least one end: On Leap I was trying
"pure-ftpd" server. It claimed to be simple, but has many options
(not explained). So I don't know how to set it up.

When started su on Leap /usr/sbin/pure-ftpd The cursor disappears
and until a ctrl-c, reappears so I assume it started.

Such services are normally started using systemd. Is there any reason
for you not to use this way?
How did you install it?

A rather simple ftpd exists and can be started with inetd if you want
an easy solution.

It it is running, run ss -tl to check if it really runs.


--
kind regards
Marco

Send spam to 1751707705muell@stinkedores.dorfdsl.de

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On 2025-07-05 20:28, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

My goal: On the same router x.x.x.16 (Tumbleweed) x.x.x.44 Leap15.6 to communicate via FTP

You asked the same question on alt.os.linux.suse. it is better to
crosspost, not to repeat the same question.

Now I have to paste my answer from there.

On Tumbleweed using Filezilla client

I know I need a server on at least one end: On Leap I was trying "pure-
ftpd" server.  It claimed to be simple, but has many options (not explained). So I don't know how to set it up.

When started su on Leap /usr/sbin/pure-ftpd  The cursor disappears and
until a ctrl-c, reappears so I assume it started.

You do not start a daemon on a terminal. You start it, possibly, by
starting the systemd service associated with it.

On filezilla contacting I get "can't reach server - EHOSTUNREACH

So, NO-GO  ----- Any help or wisdom out there?

Documentation is normally installed on "/usr/share/doc/packages/".

YaST has an ftp server module.

Try also here:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Pure-FTPd


You should also have a look here:

<https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Documentation_List_of_Manuals>

The Reference book has a chapter on setting up an FTP server: <https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/reference/html/book-reference/cha-ftp.html>

25 Setting up an FTP server with YaST #


--
Cheers, Carlos.

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Paul R Schmidtbleicher <prsc...@attglobal.net> [PRS]:

My goal: On the same router x.x.x.16 (Tumbleweed) x.x.x.44 Leap15.6
to communicate via FTP
Any help or wisdom out there?

Can a user on either machine ssh into the other one?
If yes, then use scp instead, eg.

you@tumbleweed:$ scp -v leap:/tmp/a.txt /tmp/

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On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 11:28:25 -0700, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

My goal: On the same router x.x.x.16 (Tumbleweed) x.x.x.44 Leap15.6 to communicate via FTP

FTP is insecure. Avoid.

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On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 22:05:55 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

You do not start a daemon on a terminal.

You can for debugging purposes. That way you see all the error messages immediately. A lot of server programs have the option “do not become a daemon”, specifically for this use.

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On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 03:17:15 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 11:28:25 -0700, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

My goal: On the same router x.x.x.16 (Tumbleweed) x.x.x.44 Leap15.6 to
communicate via FTP

FTP is insecure. Avoid.

I use sshd and sftp. I don't bother with keygen and use user/password.

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On 05/07/2025 20:42, Marco Moock wrote:

A rather simple ftpd exists and can be started with inetd if you want
an easy solution.

It it is running, run ss -tl to check if it really runs.

What he said...ftpd via inetd...

--
“Ideas are inherently conservative. They yield not to the attack of
other ideas but to the massive onslaught of circumstance"

- John K Galbraith

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On 06.07.2025 09:04 Uhr The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 05/07/2025 20:42, Marco Moock wrote:

A rather simple ftpd exists and can be started with inetd if you
want an easy solution.

It it is running, run ss -tl to check if it really runs.

What he said...ftpd via inetd...

He mentioned pure-ftpd, a different software.

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kind regards
Marco

Send spam to 1751785479muell@stinkedores.dorfdsl.de

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On 06/07/2025 11:18, Marco Moock wrote:

On 06.07.2025 09:04 Uhr The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 05/07/2025 20:42, Marco Moock wrote:

A rather simple ftpd exists and can be started with inetd if you
want an easy solution.

It it is running, run ss -tl to check if it really runs.

What he said...ftpd via inetd...

He mentioned pure-ftpd, a different software.

And we recommended a simpler solution

--
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as
foolish, and by the rulers as useful.

(Seneca the Younger, 65 AD)

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On 06/07/2025 14:27, Carlos E.R. wrote:

The simpler solution (if ftp is actually needed/wanted) in Leap is to
use YaST to set it up, and that will install vsftpd. There is a whole
chapter on the book explaining it.

A whole chapter is hardly 'the simplest'
ftpd under inetd is old school, blessedly simple and totally insecure.
Juts wahy is require on a local network.

I think the man page is less than a page long

--
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your effort when you have
forgotten your aim."

George Santayana

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On 2025-07-06 12:21, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 06/07/2025 11:18, Marco Moock wrote:

On 06.07.2025 09:04 Uhr The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 05/07/2025 20:42, Marco Moock wrote:

A rather simple ftpd exists and can be started with inetd if you
want an easy solution.

It it is running, run ss -tl to check if it really runs.

What he said...ftpd via inetd...

He mentioned pure-ftpd, a different software.

And we recommended a simpler solution

The simpler solution (if ftp is actually needed/wanted) in Leap is to
use YaST to set it up, and that will install vsftpd. There is a whole
chapter on the book explaining it.

<https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/reference/html/book-reference/cha-ftp.html>

Otherwise, scp is far easier. Or sshfs.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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On 2025-07-06 15:35, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 06/07/2025 14:27, Carlos E.R. wrote:

The simpler solution (if ftp is actually needed/wanted) in Leap is to
use YaST to set it up, and that will install vsftpd. There is a whole
chapter on the book explaining it.

A whole chapter is hardly 'the simplest'

The simplest is using YaST to set it up.

Remember the context, the OP is using openSUSE Leap, so YaST is the
easiest tool to set things up. It is designed for that.

And if you do not understand how to do it, there is a book chapter
designed for ease, that explains the concepts and the choices.


--
Cheers, Carlos.

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On 2025-07-06, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-07-06 15:35, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 06/07/2025 14:27, Carlos E.R. wrote:

The simpler solution (if ftp is actually needed/wanted) in Leap is
to use YaST to set it up, and that will install vsftpd. There is a
whole chapter on the book explaining it.

A whole chapter is hardly 'the simplest'

I don't think it's productive or useful to judge an idea or tool by the
size of its documentation or of the documentation for it.

The simplest is using YaST to set it up.

Remember the context, the OP is using openSUSE Leap, so YaST is the
easiest tool to set things up. It is designed for that.

And if you do not understand how to do it, there is a book chapter
designed for ease, that explains the concepts and the choices.

--
Nuno Silva

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On 7/5/25 11:28 AM, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

My goal: On the same router x.x.x.16 (Tumbleweed) x.x.x.44 Leap15.6 to communicate via FTP

On Tumbleweed using Filezilla client

I know I need a server on at least one end: On Leap I was trying "pure-
ftpd" server.  It claimed to be simple, but has many options (not explained). So I don't know how to set it up.

When started su on Leap /usr/sbin/pure-ftpd  The cursor disappears and
until a ctrl-c, reappears so I assume it started.

On filezilla contacting I get "can't reach server - EHOSTUNREACH

So, NO-GO  ----- Any help or wisdom out there?

Thanks, Paul

Thanks to all who responded to my original question.
(1) It has the option of being a Daemon. I just want on-off connection.
(2) I invoke this server "pure-ftpd" from a su Dolphin; quit with a
Ctrl-C. The client, Filezilla, was not connecting. At the time I did
not realize it included a basic "pure-ftpd.conf" that needed to be
included in calling up the server. Filezilla then made a connection: Tumbleweed was connected to LEAP 15.6.

Now, the next problem: the server (pure-ftpd) is on LEAP and Client
Filezilla is on Tumbleweed
(1) Client Filezilla on Tumbleweed (LocalSite) shows from "/" the whole filesystem & filestructure
(2) Server "pure-ftpd" is (Remote site) on LEAP computer. The call for
the local filesystem starts with "/" root directory. It yields "empty"
(3) I know it is protecting the protecting the Remote file system, but I
am same user (administrator), same password on both computers. I can't
figure out how to get the Remote site (LEAP) to open any directories
since "/" comes up as empty.
(a) Permissions for "/" are owned by root (me, both cpu's), Read rites
are for users and others. I ran both server and client under su
Dolphin. No change
(b) What I need to do is temporarily gain permissions for the remote
site LEAP somehow from Tumbleweed or suspend all permissions on LEAP temporarily so the "/" directory will be revealed.
(c) If I reverse Local and Remote sites (Tumbleweed Remote as server and
LEAP as client under filezilla, The Remote connects and successfully
downloads "/" on Tumbleweed as an empty directory.

I need someone with more wisdom on this than me. I know I could run
files between the two with a flash drive, but prefer FTP if possible.

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Paul R Schmidtbleicher <prschmi@attglobal.net> wrote:

Thanks to all who responded to my original question.
(1) It has the option of being a Daemon. I just want on-off connection.
(2) I invoke this server "pure-ftpd" from a su Dolphin; quit with a
Ctrl-C. The client, Filezilla, was not connecting. At the time I did
not realize it included a basic "pure-ftpd.conf" that needed to be
included in calling up the server. Filezilla then made a connection: Tumbleweed was connected to LEAP 15.6.

Better check the settings in that "pure-ftpd.conf" to make sure
regular users are allowed to log in, and maybe disable any chroot
rules.

Now, the next problem: the server (pure-ftpd) is on LEAP and Client
Filezilla is on Tumbleweed
(1) Client Filezilla on Tumbleweed (LocalSite) shows from "/" the whole filesystem & filestructure
(2) Server "pure-ftpd" is (Remote site) on LEAP computer. The call for
the local filesystem starts with "/" root directory. It yields "empty"
(3) I know it is protecting the protecting the Remote file system, but I
am same user (administrator), same password on both computers. I can't
figure out how to get the Remote site (LEAP) to open any directories
since "/" comes up as empty.

Are you sure that it's logging into the FTP server as that user,
not as anonymous? I believe the anonymous user will only see files
in the ~/ftp folder.

It's with regards to things like this that GNU Inetutils ftpd can
be easier for local network use rather than servers with all the
extra features for hosting a public FTP site on the internet. It
can also be started as a daemon with the "-D" command-line option.

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On 2025-07-08 02:29, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

On 7/5/25 11:28 AM, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

Now, the next problem: the server (pure-ftpd) is on LEAP and Client
Filezilla is on Tumbleweed
(1) Client Filezilla on Tumbleweed (LocalSite) shows from "/" the whole filesystem & filestructure
(2) Server "pure-ftpd" is (Remote site) on LEAP computer. The call for

STOP.

Is this a remote computer? The connection is via internet?

Then stop the FTP server ASAP and switch to scp immediately.


--
Cheers, Carlos.

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On 08/07/2025 12:41, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-07-08 02:29, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

On 7/5/25 11:28 AM, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

Now, the next problem: the server (pure-ftpd) is on LEAP and Client
Filezilla is on Tumbleweed
(1) Client Filezilla on Tumbleweed (LocalSite) shows from "/" the
whole filesystem & filestructure
(2) Server "pure-ftpd" is (Remote site) on LEAP computer. The call for

STOP.

Is this a remote computer? The connection is via internet?

Then stop the FTP server ASAP and switch to scp immediately.

Who made you God?


--
The biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly
diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations
into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with
what it actually is.

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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 08/07/2025 12:41, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-07-08 02:29, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

On 7/5/25 11:28 AM, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

Now, the next problem: the server (pure-ftpd) is on LEAP and Client
Filezilla is on Tumbleweed
(1) Client Filezilla on Tumbleweed (LocalSite) shows from "/" the
whole filesystem & filestructure
(2) Server "pure-ftpd" is (Remote site) on LEAP computer. The call for

STOP.

Is this a remote computer? The connection is via internet?

Then stop the FTP server ASAP and switch to scp immediately.

Who made you God?

You are totally missing his point - FTP is insecure, an open door into a filesystem. Only run FTP on a world-accessible server if you *really*
know what you are doing.

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On 08/07/2025 15:28, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 08/07/2025 12:41, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-07-08 02:29, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

On 7/5/25 11:28 AM, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

Now, the next problem: the server (pure-ftpd) is on LEAP and Client
Filezilla is on Tumbleweed
(1) Client Filezilla on Tumbleweed (LocalSite) shows from "/" the
whole filesystem & filestructure
(2) Server "pure-ftpd" is (Remote site) on LEAP computer. The call for

STOP.

Is this a remote computer? The connection is via internet?

Then stop the FTP server ASAP and switch to scp immediately.

Who made you God?

You are totally missing his point - FTP is insecure, an open door into a filesystem.  Only run FTP on a world-accessible server if you *really*
know what you are doing.

I am not missing the point
You are

Who said it was world-accessible?
AFAICR it is internal to his LAN.


--
“The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools.”

Herbert Spencer

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On 2025-07-08 17:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 08/07/2025 15:28, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 08/07/2025 12:41, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-07-08 02:29, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

On 7/5/25 11:28 AM, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

Now, the next problem: the server (pure-ftpd) is on LEAP and Client
Filezilla is on Tumbleweed
(1) Client Filezilla on Tumbleweed (LocalSite) shows from "/" the
whole filesystem & filestructure
(2) Server "pure-ftpd" is (Remote site) on LEAP computer. The call for .................................************

STOP.

Is this a remote computer? The connection is via internet?

Then stop the FTP server ASAP and switch to scp immediately.

Who made you God?

You are totally missing his point - FTP is insecure, an open door into
a filesystem.  Only run FTP on a world-accessible server if you
*really* know what you are doing.

I am not missing the point
You are

Who said it was world-accessible?

He did.

--
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On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 08:58:30 -0700, John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
wrote in <20250708085830.00001d31@gmail.com>:

On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 16:14:31 +0100
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Who said it was world-accessible?
AFAICR it is internal to his LAN.

Verbatim, from the OP:

My goal: On the same router x.x.x.16 (Tumbleweed) x.x.x.44

Always a thrill when the Very Concerned Security Experts don't bother
to check the context before jumping in to border-collie the Dangerously Insecure :/

If I may interject:

I suggest using the sftp client, which encrypts your traffic (including
login information), and should allow you to see the files.

You can also set it up to auto-login as "root" using an ssh key in
your key agent. Default setting (on Linux Mint) for /etc/ssh/sshd_config
is

PermitRootLogin prohibit-password

...which means you'll need to use a key to log in as
root, or change the setting.

Extra sidenote: if you ever set things up to ssh in remotely from off
the Net, you might want to run denyhosts or fail2ban.

(Thunar can open sftp connections directly, btw. Not sure about Dolphin.)

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On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 14:11:17 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Who made you God?

The irony of someone with a handle like yours saying that ...

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On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 16:14:31 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Who said it was world-accessible? AFAICR it is internal to his LAN.

If the LAN has a wi-fi router on it, then it might indeed be world-
accessible.

The assumption that your network has some kind of “perimeter” that it is sufficient to defend, to keep bad guys out, is looking pretty naïve these days.

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On 8 Jul 2025 21:39:00 GMT, vallor wrote:

(Thunar can open sftp connections directly, btw. Not sure about
Dolphin.)

Yes, Dolphin can add a folder using the sftp protocol.

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On 7/8/25 12:36 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-07-08 17:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 08/07/2025 15:28, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 08/07/2025 12:41, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-07-08 02:29, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

On 7/5/25 11:28 AM, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

Now, the next problem: the server (pure-ftpd) is on LEAP and
Client Filezilla is on Tumbleweed
(1) Client Filezilla on Tumbleweed (LocalSite) shows from "/" the
whole filesystem & filestructure
(2) Server "pure-ftpd" is (Remote site) on LEAP computer. The call >>>>>> for

.................................************

STOP.

Is this a remote computer? The connection is via internet?

Then stop the FTP server ASAP and switch to scp immediately.

Who made you God?

You are totally missing his point - FTP is insecure, an open door
into a filesystem.  Only run FTP on a world-accessible server if you
*really* know what you are doing.

I am not missing the point
You are

Who said it was world-accessible?

He did.

Please Note: The two computers are in two separate rooms in the same
house and on the same home fiber router (192.168.x.x) The intent is to
share files internally for time spent to move them and then shut off the
FTP. No outside use at all.

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On 7/6/25 3:21 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 7/8/25 6:11 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Who made you God?

Ok, Natural Philosopher: Your broke into this thread with an

off-subject question. I would not normally do this but since you started
it, I am prepared to give you some answers:

It starts with Genesis 1:1, the beginning sentence of His Book
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth"
In reality that says it all. God "IS" - He is the Creator. His is Bigger
than us. He created us. We are all, like it or not, SUBJECT TO HIM - all
the heavens and all on earth.
Let me share an illustration of the ramifications of that verse in the
life of my wife:
When she was a little girl, she helped deliver a liter of kittens. The
kittens could say she had a minimal part in their creation.
As they grew, on rainy days, she would set them up in her play. She
dressed them in her doll clothes. She would have some do this and others
do that. She was their Sovereign. For some she had them dance by holding
their paws. If they did her bidding they got a treat. Others would not
like this and try to run - they got no treat. It wouldn't take long in
her play for the running kittens, watching the others get the treats, to
feel left out. Remember: She created the play. She called the "shots."
They could complain, so what? To them, she existed. Do it her way and
get a treat. Follow their own "Natural" inclination and suffer the consequences: no treat and left out to curl up in a corner.

Now lets bring our God back into the story: His Statement: "He is the
Creator," We are part of His creation. Can we REALLY do anything about
it? The kittens figured this out over several playtimes. She could have
been mean to them - She was not. She treated them all in love. God has
also said, He loves us.

The second verse that stands out is Psalm 138:2 which tells us that God
"has magnified His Word above His Name" - Look it up. King James
translation is one of the best. It means His Word (The Bible) He has
placed His Word ABOVE His Sovereignty - above all the He could and would
do. In simple terms He runs His Creation by His BOOK. Know the Book and
you know God: Learn and obey = Blessing Ignore Walk Away = No Blessing
and looming punishments all laid out in commands, historical stories,
even the poetic sections. It's that simple. Like it or not the Creator
rules His Creation, BUT, according to his Book.
Get out a Bible
Now some homework: Who made God? He claims "I AM:" Exodus 3:14
He is the Creator: Genesis 1:1; Isaiah 45:12 -Look these up if you
really want to know.
He is Almighty, all powerful: Genesis 17:1
He Kills, He makes alive, He wounds, He heals: Deuteronomy 32:39
He is the ONE and ONLY - there is "none else:" Isaiah 45:18
He loves YOU: John 3:16 -Sent His Son to take your sins - including the arrogance to change the subject of this thread - upon His Son-Jesus to
allow for an even closer relationship with Your God -like it or not! Relationship with Him means Heaven - Reject it and wrath John 3:18; 3:36
Like those kittens THE TREAT for us is harmony in the world the
Creator has Created for us.

I could go on, but I am also breaking this thread in posting to you. I
will stop.

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On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 21:50:49 -0700, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

It starts with Genesis 1:1, the beginning sentence of His Book "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth"
In reality that says it all. God "IS" - He is the Creator. His is Bigger
than us. He created us.

But he didn’t create the eyewitness who wrote that account of creation,
did he?

We are all, like it or not, SUBJECT TO HIM - all
the heavens and all on earth.

Each religion says their sky fairy is the only true sky fairy, all other
sky fairies are false.

They can’t all be right on the first point, they can all be right on the second.

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On 2025-07-09 03:23, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

On 7/8/25 12:36 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-07-08 17:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 08/07/2025 15:28, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:

Who said it was world-accessible?

He did.

Please Note: The two computers are in two separate rooms in the same
house and on the same home fiber router (192.168.x.x)  The intent is to share files internally for time spent to move them and then shut off the FTP.  No outside use at all.

Ok, thanks for the clarification, the remote computer is in fact local.


That said, as you are using openSUSE, and if you actually do want FTP,
the easiest route is using the tool YaST to install and configure an FTP server, which is vsftpd. And you have a well written book chapter to
help you along:

<https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/reference/html/book-reference/cha-ftp.html>


Otherwise, it is far easier to use ssh type tools. You don't have to
install nor setup anything, they are already installed (as long as you
replied "YES" to the question during system install to install and run sshd⁽¹⁾).

scp (1) - OpenSSH secure file copy

As simple as doing:

scp username@from_host:file.txt /local/directory/

You have more examples on <https://linuxblog.io/linux-securely-copy-files-using-scp/>, for instance.


Or you can use:

sftp — OpenSSH secure file transfer


Which is a client tool similar in use to ftp. Again, you don't need to configure the server (the "remote" machine in your parlance). There are
GUI file browsers that can present you with sftp transparently. Or a TUI
like 'mc'.


Finally, there is "sshfs". Again, no configuration on the server, at
all. In the client, you run:

sshfs NAME@192.168.1.14:/ ~/fusermount/

Where the directory "fusermount" or anyother name you choose must exist
and should be empty. The root filesystem (or any other) of the server
machine appears insude ~/fusermount/

When finished, you run:

fusermount -u ~/fusermount

to severe the connection when finished. The advantage of this tool is
that you can point any tool to ~/fusermount in order to use files as if
they are local. Any tool, like LibreOffice, for instance.


All these tools from the ssh family have the advantage of not needing
any configuration, aside from answering YES during the initial system installation. It is a single tcp port, the 22. And the connection is
encrypted, it is Internet safe.


(1) <https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/startup/html/book-startup/art-opensuse-installquick.html#sec-opensuse-installquick-install>

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Cheers, Carlos.

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On 09/07/2025 02:23, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

On 7/8/25 12:36 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-07-08 17:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 08/07/2025 15:28, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 08/07/2025 12:41, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-07-08 02:29, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

On 7/5/25 11:28 AM, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

Now, the next problem: the server (pure-ftpd) is on LEAP and
Client Filezilla is on Tumbleweed
(1) Client Filezilla on Tumbleweed (LocalSite) shows from "/" the >>>>>>> whole filesystem & filestructure
(2) Server "pure-ftpd" is (Remote site) on LEAP computer. The
call for

.................................************

STOP.

Is this a remote computer? The connection is via internet?

Then stop the FTP server ASAP and switch to scp immediately.

Who made you God?

You are totally missing his point - FTP is insecure, an open door
into a filesystem.  Only run FTP on a world-accessible server if you
*really* know what you are doing.

I am not missing the point
You are

Who said it was world-accessible?

He did.

Please Note: The two computers are in two separate rooms in the same
house and on the same home fiber router (192.168.x.x)  The intent is to share files internally for time spent to move them and then shut off the FTP.  No outside use at all.

Thank you. That is what I understood from the get go. Security not
involved. Justsimplicity of setup

Personally here I use NFS as its an all linux house.

--
"Women actually are capable of being far more than the feminists will
let them."

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On 09/07/2025 05:50, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

On 7/6/25 3:21 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 7/8/25 6:11 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Who made you God?

Ok, Natural Philosopher: Your broke into this thread with an

off-subject question. I would not normally do this but since you started
it, I am prepared to give you some answers:

It starts with Genesis 1:1, the beginning sentence of His Book
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth"
In reality that says it all. God "IS" - He is the Creator. His is Bigger
than us. He created us. We are all, like it or not, SUBJECT TO HIM - all
the heavens and all on earth.
Let me share an illustration of the ramifications of that verse in the
life of my wife:
When she was a little girl, she helped deliver a liter of kittens. The kittens could say she had a minimal part in their creation.
As they grew, on rainy days, she would set them up in her play. She
dressed them in her doll clothes. She would have some do this and others
do that. She was their Sovereign. For some she had them dance by holding their paws.  If they did her bidding they got a treat. Others would not
like this and try to run - they got no treat. It wouldn't take long in
her play for the running kittens, watching the others get the treats, to
feel left out. Remember: She created the play. She called the "shots."
They could complain, so what? To them, she existed. Do it her way and
get a treat. Follow their own "Natural" inclination and suffer the consequences: no treat and left out to curl up in a corner.

Now lets bring our God back into the story: His Statement: "He is the Creator," We are part of His creation.  Can we REALLY do anything about
it? The kittens figured this out over several playtimes. She could have
been mean to them - She was not. She treated them all in love. God has
also said, He loves us.

The second verse that stands out is Psalm 138:2 which tells us that God
"has magnified His Word above His Name" - Look it up. King James
translation is one of the best. It means His Word (The Bible) He has
placed His Word ABOVE His Sovereignty - above all the He could and would do.  In simple terms He runs His Creation by His BOOK. Know the Book and
you know God: Learn and obey = Blessing  Ignore Walk Away = No Blessing
and looming punishments all laid out in commands, historical stories,
even the poetic sections.  It's that simple. Like it or not the Creator rules His Creation, BUT, according to his Book.
    Get out a Bible
Now some homework: Who made God? He claims "I AM:" Exodus 3:14
He is the Creator: Genesis 1:1; Isaiah 45:12 -Look these up if you
really want to know.
He is Almighty, all powerful: Genesis 17:1
He Kills, He makes alive, He wounds, He heals: Deuteronomy 32:39
He is the ONE and ONLY - there is "none else:" Isaiah 45:18
He loves YOU: John 3:16 -Sent His Son to take your sins - including the arrogance to change the subject of this thread - upon His Son-Jesus to
allow for an even closer relationship with Your God -like it or not! Relationship with Him means Heaven - Reject it and wrath John 3:18; 3:36
 Like those kittens THE TREAT for us is harmony in the world the
Creator has Created for us.

I could go on, but I am also breaking this thread in posting to you.  I
will stop.

Oh do put a sock in it.

I know *far* more about ALL religions than you do about yours.
You have no idea of the significance of the Creation myth, or the Holy
Trinity. Or what the Jewish panoply of Angels was all about, Why Taoism
has the concept of the Tao or what the point of transcendental
meditation is.

Rote learning the Bible is a as dumb as the bloody bearded wonders who
spend 5 years memorizing the Q'ran.


--
New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in
someone else's pocket.

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Paul R Schmidtbleicher <prschmi@attglobal.net> wrote:

Please Note: The two computers are in two separate rooms in the same
house and on the same home fiber router (192.168.x.x) The intent is to
share files internally for time spent to move them and then shut off the
FTP. No outside use at all.

The transfer via ssh/rsync would have been over in the time you had
written your internal request. Don't ever use ftp. It's insecure,
clumsy, and hard to configure. We have the 2020ies now.

Greetings
Marc
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Paul R Schmidtbleicher <prsc...@attglobal.net> [PRS]:

(Leap) x.x.x.16 (Tumbleweed) x.x.x.44
The two computers are in two separate rooms in the same house and on
the same home fiber router (192.168.x.x) The intent is to share files internally for time spent to move them and then shut off the FTP.
No outside use at all.

For such a simple scenario there is no need for an FTP server.
Just create a tar archive with all the files that need to be moved
and send it over the LAN using netcat.

If x.x.x.16 is the sender and x.x.x.44 is the receiver, run the
following commands:

# on host x.x.x.16 (sender)
nchost=192.168.99.16; ncport=10000; \
tar -cf - *.mp3 | netcat -n -w 10 -l $nchost $ncport


# on host x.x.x.44 (receiver)
nchost=192.168.99.16; ncport=10000; \
netcat -n -w 10 $nchost $ncport | tar -xpvf -


Ten seconds after the last byte gets sent the connection is
automatically shut off.

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