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  • CHAT-5 Released - And It Can CODE

    From c186282@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 7 18:11:21 2025
    XPost: comp.programming

    https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250807-openai-releases-chatgpt-5-as-ai-race-accelerates

    OpenAI unveiled ChatGPT-5 on Thursday, describing it as a
    major leap forward in artificial intelligence, with enhanced
    abilities in reasoning, task automation, and coding. The
    new model is being rolled out free to all users, as the
    company continues to compete globally in the rapidly evolving
    AI race.

    . . .

    It apparently can do what's sometimes called
    "vibe coding" - ie the pointy-haired boss
    just has a conversation with it, describes
    what he wants the application to do, and
    Chat will write it ('well enough' I suppose).
    The value/salaries of human coders, outside
    the AI realm) will soon plunge. The boss
    always hated those weirdos anyhow ...

    There have been discussions here and elsewhere
    about 'modular' - almost 'Lego' - approaches
    to programming. You take a collection of vetted
    functional modules and splice them together to
    achieve the desired effect. Objects have many
    properties and vars ... you just access the
    ones you need for the task at hand.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 8 00:07:27 2025
    XPost: comp.programming

    On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 18:11:21 -0400, c186282 wrote:

    It apparently can do what's sometimes called "vibe coding" - ie the
    pointy-haired boss just has a conversation with it, describes what he
    wants the application to do, and Chat will write it ('well enough' I
    suppose).
    The value/salaries of human coders, outside the AI realm) will soon
    plunge. The boss always hated those weirdos anyhow ...

    https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/08/after-using-chatgpt-man-swaps-his- salt-for-sodium-bromide-and-suffers-psychosis/

    Let the Darwin Awards begin... I got s vibe about vibe programming and it
    ain't a good one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eab_beh07HU

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to rbowman on Thu Aug 7 21:16:37 2025
    XPost: comp.programming

    On 8/7/25 8:07 PM, rbowman wrote:
    On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 18:11:21 -0400, c186282 wrote:

    It apparently can do what's sometimes called "vibe coding" - ie the
    pointy-haired boss just has a conversation with it, describes what he
    wants the application to do, and Chat will write it ('well enough' I
    suppose).
    The value/salaries of human coders, outside the AI realm) will soon
    plunge. The boss always hated those weirdos anyhow ...

    https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/08/after-using-chatgpt-man-swaps-his- salt-for-sodium-bromide-and-suffers-psychosis/

    Not surprising ... NaBr is no sub for NaCl ! It used
    to be used as a mild tranquilizer, hence the old terms
    "a bromide" or "take a bromide". High amounts, yea,
    surely toxic.

    Let the Darwin Awards begin... I got s vibe about vibe programming and it ain't a good one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eab_beh07HU

    I expect the created software to be very inefficient
    and not very secure - to start with. It won't always
    be funny stuff as it will find its way into military,
    major utilities, chem plants, hospitals, govt and
    banking.

    However it WILL get better. CHAT-6 will probably have
    written much of its own code ....

    THEN it gets interesting :-)

    The bosses BADLY want to get rid of the pesky, annoying,
    expensive, whiny, unionizing HUMANS - esp those damned
    code people who keep saying why you can't get there
    from here.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 8 20:16:09 2025
    XPost: comp.programming

    On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 21:16:37 -0400, c186282 wrote:

    The bosses BADLY want to get rid of the pesky, annoying,
    expensive, whiny, unionizing HUMANS - esp those damned code people
    who keep saying why you can't get there from here.

    I can't wait. I wasn't a negative nelly but I thought it was part of my
    job description to inform my boss that a proposal was a deep, dark rabbit
    hole we didn't want to go down. Sometimes he listened. The biggest problem
    was the company thinking it was a lion when it really was a house cat
    trying to catch a wildebeest. One of the competitors realized it was a
    house cat, focused on mice, and became a very well fed house cat.

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