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GIMP is basically as good as PhotoShop.

On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 11:04:22 -0600, chrisv wrote:

... I wouldn't know. I've assumed that PS is better, based upon
its popularity and price. I would expect evolving technology would
favor the payware, when it comes to outright performance.

On 2024-12-28, Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> wrote:

The primary expenditure of commercial software is to develop
a GUI that can accommodate the stupid -- and I mean STUPID.
...
Both the GIMP and Photoshop (and all other such software) are
merely GUI wrappers around standard image processing techniques.
How the fuck can they be different? They can't.

Except perhaps in the GUI. Photoshop, as all commercial software,
caters to the stupid. The GIMP not so much.

I am not a grapical or photographical professional. I do not know much
about image processing techniques. I just need to manage a collection of 100,000 images (my wife takes a lot of pictures on her iPhone) and
occasionally polish a few of them up a bit.

To me, the UX design matters a lot - I want the features I need to be discoverable even if I don't know what they are called ... or even that
they exist. I would never spend the money for Photoshop, but I have
bought PhotoShop ELEMENTS twice. It has some nice features for managing
large collections, such as automatic face recognition and searching by geolocation EXIF tags. But it seems to have gratuitous changes from one
release to the next, and some performance problems.

I recently discovered digiKam, and it seems to me to be closely aligned
with what I need. We will see how I feel in 6 months.

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On 2024-12-29 01:30, Lars Poulsen wrote:

I recently discovered digiKam, and it seems to me to be closely aligned
with what I need. We will see how I feel in 6 months.

digikam may be more appropriate, specially if you have many photos.
Shotwell is even simpler.

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Cheers, Carlos.

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On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 00:30:31 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:

... I just need to manage a collection of 100,000 images ... and
occasionally polish a few of them up a bit.

No GUI is going to work efficiently for that. You need automation via
command line/scripting.

Tools like ImageMagick/GraphicsMagick are commonly used to do bulk
processing of images on that scale.

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On 12/28/24 7:30 PM, Lars Poulsen wrote:

GIMP is basically as good as PhotoShop.

On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 11:04:22 -0600, chrisv wrote:

... I wouldn't know. I've assumed that PS is better, based upon
its popularity and price. I would expect evolving technology would
favor the payware, when it comes to outright performance.

On 2024-12-28, Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> wrote:

The primary expenditure of commercial software is to develop
a GUI that can accommodate the stupid -- and I mean STUPID.
...
Both the GIMP and Photoshop (and all other such software) are
merely GUI wrappers around standard image processing techniques.
How the fuck can they be different? They can't.

Except perhaps in the GUI. Photoshop, as all commercial software,
caters to the stupid. The GIMP not so much.

I am not a grapical or photographical professional. I do not know much
about image processing techniques. I just need to manage a collection of 100,000 images (my wife takes a lot of pictures on her iPhone) and occasionally polish a few of them up a bit.

To me, the UX design matters a lot - I want the features I need to be discoverable even if I don't know what they are called ... or even that
they exist. I would never spend the money for Photoshop, but I have
bought PhotoShop ELEMENTS twice. It has some nice features for managing
large collections, such as automatic face recognition and searching by geolocation EXIF tags. But it seems to have gratuitous changes from one release to the next, and some performance problems.

I recently discovered digiKam, and it seems to me to be closely aligned
with what I need. We will see how I feel in 6 months.

Yes, an image organizer ('database' app) is what you're looking for, and
to that end, neither GIMP, Photoshop, nor Photoshop Elements are that
tool; they're image manipulator Apps.

Apple's Photos does some organizing, as does also Adobe Lightroom. In
Adobe land, it used to be Adobe Bridge, although I don't know if that's current. Apple Aperture was another, but it was obsoleted years ago.


-hh

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On 2024-12-29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 00:30:31 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:

... I just need to manage a collection of 100,000 images ... and
occasionally polish a few of them up a bit.

No GUI is going to work efficiently for that. You need automation via
command line/scripting.

Tools like ImageMagick/GraphicsMagick are commonly used to do bulk
processing of images on that scale.

I am NOT trying to do bulk processing of images.
I want to find images relating to places, people or times, and add/edit metadata on one at a time. I do have a set of scripts (written in Perl)
to browse through the collection in a folder tree of
/pictures/
yyyy/
yyyy-mm/
yyyy-mm-location-or-event
But I don't have the web-2.0 skills (or the time) to write the few
thousand lines of code to switch in and out of image editing through the
web windows.

My /pictures/ lives on my home fedora server, which is remote mounted
from my Win-10 desktop, which has the good display (a 4K TV on my desk)
and digiKam is running in a Fedora image on WSL.

Yes I know, this is politically incorrect in soooo many ways!

--
Lars Poulsen

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On 2024-12-29 06:44, D wrote:

My father has been a happy gimp user for many years, and he is 73. No
problem with the gui. The only thing he is sensitive to is if they make
changes or move buttons around.
But all software makers enjoy doing that.

On 2024-12-29, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:

My father is going to turn 80 last year and happily used Linux Mint
until he deided to buy himself a new mini desktop with Windows 10 on it.
If anything, he preferred Mint and asked me whether there was a way to implement some of its functionality onto the desktop like the way that
it imports photos and videos from a phone. I didn't bother to install it
on his new machine though.

Depending on what type of phone, it can be simple to open the CameraRoll
folder through a USB cable. In Android, you may have to explicitly
authorize the use of USB for anything beyond charging.

On iPhone, Windows can mount the entire iCloud Photos database as a
folder in "This PC" (or "My Computer" or what they call it this year.
On Linux, there is "icloudpd", a python program that can grab the last
several hundred new photos from an iCloud account. I have used both.

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On 2024-12-29 17:02, Lars Poulsen wrote:

On 2024-12-29 06:44, D wrote:

My father has been a happy gimp user for many years, and he is 73. No
problem with the gui. The only thing he is sensitive to is if they make
changes or move buttons around.
But all software makers enjoy doing that.

On 2024-12-29, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:

My father is going to turn 80 last year and happily used Linux Mint
until he deided to buy himself a new mini desktop with Windows 10 on it.
If anything, he preferred Mint and asked me whether there was a way to
implement some of its functionality onto the desktop like the way that
it imports photos and videos from a phone. I didn't bother to install it
on his new machine though.

Depending on what type of phone, it can be simple to open the CameraRoll folder through a USB cable. In Android, you may have to explicitly
authorize the use of USB for anything beyond charging.

On iPhone, Windows can mount the entire iCloud Photos database as a
folder in "This PC" (or "My Computer" or what they call it this year.
On Linux, there is "icloudpd", a python program that can grab the last several hundred new photos from an iCloud account. I have used both.

I don't want to subscribe to another cloud service so I'm content to
just keep the photos on my phone for now. Whatever my wife shares with
me eventually gets synced to the cloud too from my computer's storage.
If and when I run out of space on the phone or I upgrade to a new
device, I'll just upload whatever's on it to the cloud and make it
accessible to the new device.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch
Zephyrus G14 GA401QM on Fedora 41

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On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 22:02:10 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:

In Android, you may have to explicitly authorize the use of USB for
anything beyond charging.

In reasonably new Android releases you need to enable developer mode. You
do that by tapping the build number 7 times I think. Just keep tapping.

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Charlie Gibbs wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

<snip>

How about THAT!?

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It's a lot of fun being alive ... I wonder if my bed is made?!?

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