• A New Machine Progresses. The Shakedown Phase.

    From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 28 18:00:22 2024
    My new machine is performing beautifully at his point.
    I wasn't sure. The critical components had to be shipped
    from a supplier in Hong Kong and I had a slight concern
    about the integrity of the business.

    But it all check out well so far.

    I have swapped a PCI 2 vid card from my junk Winblows
    machine into my PCI 3 slot just to get hings going.

    The BIOS tweak comes first.

    Since I don't use that stupid UEFI boot, I needed to
    enable CSM (Compatibility Support Module) to allow
    legacy booting. I disabled Secure Boot as well since
    I won't have gremlins constantly attacking my machine.
    Also Intel AMT (Active Management Technology) is disabled.
    The virtual machine (VT-d) is out as well (only a fucking
    asshole uses virtual machines).

    But other BIOS options left me bewildered. What the
    fuck is "CFG Lock?" It seems to be another security feature
    so I disabled it.

    Now everything is tweaked to perfection and I await the
    arrival of my Nvidia card.

    There will no SSDs on this machine. Never. HDDs only.

    SSDs are a gimmick made for assholes.

    Next comes the highly tuned kernel and software.

    Here is my compile string for cross compilation:

    -O2 -pipe -flto=9 -fuse-linker-plugin \
    -march=skylake -mmmx -mpopcnt -msse -msse2 -msse3 -mssse3 -msse4.1 -msse4.2 \ -mavx -mavx2 -mno-sse4a -mno-fma4 -mno-xop -mfma -mno-avx512f -mbmi -mbmi2 \ -maes -mpclmul -mno-avx512vl -mno-avx512bw -mno-avx512dq -mno-avx512cd \ -mno-avx512vbmi -mno-avx512ifma -mno-avx512vpopcntdq -mno-avx512vbmi2 -mno-gfni \
    -mno-vpclmulqdq -mno-avx512vnni -mno-avx512bitalg -mno-avx512bf16 \ -mno-avx512vp2intersect -mno-3dnow -madx -mabm -mno-cldemote -mclflushopt \ -mno-clwb -mno-clzero -mcx16 -mno-enqcmd -mf16c -mfsgsbase -mfxsr -mno-hle -msahf \
    -mno-lwp -mlzcnt -mmovbe -mno-movdir64b -mno-movdiri -mno-mwaitx -mno-pconfig \ -mno-pku -mprfchw -mno-ptwrite -mno-rdpid -mrdrnd -mrdseed -mno-rtm -mno-serialize \
    -msgx -mno-sha -mno-shstk -mno-tbm -mno-tsxldtrk -mno-vaes -mno-waitpkg -mno-wbnoinvd \
    -mxsave -mxsavec -mxsaveopt -mxsaves -mno-amx-tile -mno-amx-int8 -mno-amx-bf16 \
    -mno-uintr -mno-hreset -mno-kl -mno-widekl -mno-avxvnni -mno-avx512fp16 -mno-avxifma \
    -mno-avxvnniint8 -mno-avxneconvert -mno-cmpccxadd -mno-amx-fp16 -mno-prefetchi \
    -mno-raoint -mno-amx-complex -mno-avxvnniint16 -mno-sm3 -mno-sha512 -mno-sm4 -mno-apxf \
    -mno-usermsr --param l1-cache-size=32 --param l1-cache-line-size=64 \
    --param l2-cache-size=16384 -mtune=skylake -dumpbase \
    -malign-data=cacheline -mvzeroupper -floop-interchange -floop-strip-mine -floop-block \
    -fno-stack-protector -mindirect-branch=keep -mfunction-return=keep -mharden-sls=none \
    -fcf-protection=none -Wl,-z,norelro -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE

    Disto purists eat your hearts out.

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!


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  • From Andrzej Matuch@21:1/5 to Joel on Sat Dec 28 13:43:23 2024
    On 2024-12-28 13:08, Joel wrote:
    Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> wrote:

    SSDs are a gimmick made for assholes.


    You are the stupidest piece of shit, I swear.

    Larry Pietraskiewicz should show us how much of a man he is by dropping
    his hard disks from a height of three feet.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 28 21:48:52 2024
    Le 28-12-2024, Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> a écrit :
    My new machine is performing beautifully at his point.

    That's surprising.

    I wasn't sure.

    Agreed, any basic task starts to be a huge adventure when you start to try
    to do it by yourself.

    But it all check out well so far.

    That's surprising (bis).

    Since I don't use that stupid UEFI boot,

    In fact, you are using it, but you don't have enough knowledge in
    computer to be aware of it. Starting to boot in legacy mode is still
    booting the UEFI. It's only booting with limited capacities, but it's
    still the UEFI. You can have as many shit as you want in front of your
    eyes, it doesn't change the fact: BIOS doesn't exist any more on recent computer.

    I already told you so, but you'd rather refuse reality than learn.

    The virtual machine (VT-d) is out as well (only a fucking
    asshole uses virtual machines).

    Yes, the world is moving forward when you stay in the past (doesn't it
    ring a bell?).

    There will no SSDs on this machine. Never. HDDs only.

    Yes, the world is moving forward when you stay in the past (doesn't it
    ring a bell?). Bis.

    SSDs are a gimmick made for assholes.

    Yes, the world is moving forward when you stay in the past (doesn't it
    ring a bell?). Ter.

    Next comes the highly tuned kernel

    Yes, we know, the kernel you tuned years ago for your older computer
    which will run smoothly on your new computer. And here, I'd like to
    thank you a lot. Because with this sentence, you proved what I always
    answered to you: it's useless to compile your kernel with modern
    versions. If you ever had tuned it seriously, it would have taken you
    days to find the best way possible. Because the only possibility to fine
    tune a kernel seriously is to try a lot of options and to benchmark
    every choice. Which could have been done over the years, but which can't
    be done in a few minutes on a new hardware.

    So, once again, what you believe would impress anyone only proves you
    have a mouth far bigger than your capacities.

    and software.

    Same answer as above. Try again.

    Disto purists eat your hearts out.

    Start by learning the basics of programmation and come here again to
    make me laugh.

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 28 22:24:58 2024
    On 28 Dec 2024 21:48:52 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    In fact, you are using it [UEFI], but you don't have enough knowledge in computer to be aware of it.


    Try again, Carpenter.

    My knowledge of computer booting is way beyond anything that
    you'll ever know.

    The option for legacy booting exists and it will exist despite
    you feeble exhortations about the "future."

    What an ignoramus idiot!



    Starting to boot in legacy mode is still
    booting the UEFI. It's only booting with limited capacities,


    Ha, ha, ha, ha!

    What fucking "capacities" do you want?

    Just load the fucking Linux kernel and then get out of the
    fucking way. Very, very simple. Legacy booting does that
    just fine.

    Your arguments are totally asinine.


    I already told you so, but you'd rather refuse reality than learn.


    Yes, you told me before. But I NEVER listen to a fucking idiot.


    The virtual machine (VT-d) is out as well (only a fucking
    asshole uses virtual machines).

    Yes, the world is moving forward when you stay in the past (doesn't it
    ring a bell?).


    The BIOS provides the option to disable VT-d. The BIOS does not
    attach a warning that disabling the VT-d will violate the future.

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

    You are a total imbecile!



    There will no SSDs on this machine. Never. HDDs only.

    Yes, the world is moving forward when you stay in the past


    Yes, and HDD manufacturers will keep on manufacturing HDDs
    well into the future.

    SSDs are NOT the future. They are merely an option for uninformed
    idiots like you.


    Because the only possibility to fine
    tune a kernel seriously is to try a lot of options and to benchmark
    every choice.


    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

    Give it up, Carpenter.

    You are a helpless distro lackey and you will always be a helpless
    distro lackey.


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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 29 01:02:01 2024
    On 28 Dec 2024 21:48:52 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

    Le 28-12-2024, Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> a écrit :
    My new machine is performing beautifully at his point.

    That's surprising.

    I'd put in more in league with the miracles like virgin birth. Fartley and
    all his aliases are in my bozo bin but it is comforting to indirectly see nothing has changed.

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  • From Andrzej Matuch@21:1/5 to rbowman on Sat Dec 28 21:31:36 2024
    On 2024-12-28 20:02, rbowman wrote:
    On 28 Dec 2024 21:48:52 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

    Le 28-12-2024, Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> a écrit :
    My new machine is performing beautifully at his point.

    That's surprising.

    I'd put in more in league with the miracles like virgin birth. Fartley and all his aliases are in my bozo bin but it is comforting to indirectly see nothing has changed.

    Because he's not that clever, filtering Larry Pietraskiewicz is rather
    simple. I don't see any of his garbage.

    --
    Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
    Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to Joel on Sun Dec 29 07:08:50 2024
    On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 21:36:15 -0500, Joel wrote:

    I actually like reading his bullshit, it's a reminder that there are
    still nutty people in the world.

    If I want to deal with nuts I'll volunteer at the Poverello Center.

    https://thepoverellocenter.org/volunteer/

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  • From Andrzej Matuch@21:1/5 to Joel on Sun Dec 29 07:12:14 2024
    On 2024-12-28 21:36, Joel wrote:
    Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
    On 2024-12-28 20:02, rbowman wrote:
    On 28 Dec 2024 21:48:52 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
    Le 28-12-2024, Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> a écrit :

    My new machine is performing beautifully at his point.

    That's surprising.

    I'd put in more in league with the miracles like virgin birth. Fartley and >>> all his aliases are in my bozo bin but it is comforting to indirectly see >>> nothing has changed.

    Because he's not that clever, filtering Larry Pietraskiewicz is rather
    simple. I don't see any of his garbage.


    I actually like reading his bullshit, it's a reminder that there are
    still nutty people in the world.

    Well, some of us are masochists...

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 29 13:19:58 2024
    Le 29-12-2024, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> a écrit :
    On 2024-12-28 21:36, Joel wrote:
    Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:

    Because he's not that clever, filtering Larry Pietraskiewicz is rather
    simple. I don't see any of his garbage.

    I actually like reading his bullshit, it's a reminder that there are
    still nutty people in the world.

    Well, some of us are masochists...

    I like reading his messages because he's funny. He's very limited, but
    he's funny anyway. So, it's not masochism (for my part).

    --
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to was right to be surprised when you on Sun Dec 29 13:17:11 2024
    Le 28-12-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
    On 28 Dec 2024 21:48:52 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    In fact, you are using it [UEFI], but you don't have enough knowledge in
    computer to be aware of it.


    Try again, Carpenter.

    It's not necessary.

    My knowledge of computer booting is way beyond anything that
    you'll ever know.

    Yes, but no. Any of your message proves otherwise. Your knowledge is
    below any newbie would have acquired in a month. And you didn't passed
    this level in years. You are either the shame of a Linux defender or the
    pride of a Windows aficionado.

    The option for legacy booting exists and it will exist despite
    you feeble exhortations about the "future."

    Don't care. It's an option in the UEFI boot, so it's still UEFI. Your willingness to accept it or not is of no matter. You are wrong: the case
    is closed.

    What an ignoramus idiot!

    You are too limited. You pretend to be an artist: prove it. Improve.

    Starting to boot in legacy mode is still
    booting the UEFI. It's only booting with limited capacities,


    What fucking "capacities" do you want?

    Once again, I already answered that: the possibility to boot directly my
    Linux Kernel without the need of a bloated boot manager. But you can't understand what a simple boot is.

    Just load the fucking Linux kernel and then get out of the
    fucking way. Very, very simple.

    Yes, exactly, why do you ask if you know the answer?

    Legacy booting does that just fine.

    No way. The BIOS didn't managed that, it was brought by the UEFI. If you
    are able to do it without the need of a boot manager, it's because you
    are not in legacy mode. And I don't care if you believe you have enabled
    it.

    And really, I know Linux, but I have only the most limited knowledge
    possible about BIOS/UEFI. I don't care about hardware and I learn only
    what's vital for me to use it. So, if you know less than me, it's a
    miracle you are able to use your new computer.

    Your arguments are totally asinine.

    They mostly prove you don't know what you are doing. And they prove I
    was right to be surprised when you said your new computer is working
    well.

    I already told you so, but you'd rather refuse reality than learn.

    Yes, you told me before. But I NEVER listen to a fucking idiot.

    First I refuse your badge of honor. You want to insult me, fine, I'm
    willing to be insulted by you. But not endlessly with the only word in
    your limited vocabulary. You are lying about everything, included your
    claim of being an artist. Any artist would be able to be more varied in
    his insults.

    Second, as I already told you: it's not what I am which is important,
    but what I say. The important thing is you can't check about what I am
    and if I rely only about what I am, I can make mistakes. But. The.
    Important. Thing. Is: you can check about what I say. And then, you can
    either prove me wrong or improve. But your inability to check proves
    your inability to learn. You'll stay a newbie forever. Or a Windows
    aficionado pretending to promote Linux in the only purpose of making
    Linux users looking like fools.

    And that's I believe the most probable: you are a Windows (or maybe
    Apple) user using Linux only to show issues about it. When you are the
    only issue. Even DFS, who is a Windows confirmed aficionado, knows more
    about Linux than you. And it tells a lot about you being a forever Linux beginner. The only explanations are either you have an IQ below your
    anal temperature (in Celsius Degree, which is about 37°C) or you are a
    Windows user. The first possibility could explain you being in an
    asylum. But your Internet access should have to be explained. The second explanation is more probable because you acknowledge to Windows a lot.

    The virtual machine (VT-d) is out as well (only a fucking
    asshole uses virtual machines).

    Yes, the world is moving forward when you stay in the past (doesn't it
    ring a bell?).

    The BIOS provides the option to disable VT-d.

    No. The UEFI does that. Try to learn the basics.

    The BIOS does not

    Exist anymore. It's UEFI, right now. You can keep your shit in front of
    your eyes, it changes nothing: you don't understand what you are saying.

    attach a warning that disabling the VT-d will violate the future.

    So what? You are the only one stuck in the past. But I'll tel you a
    secret. To send a message from your computer to Usenet, a lot of VM are
    used. So, you are using VM even pretending not to. The only way to avoid
    VM is to be cut of the outside world.

    You are a total imbecile!

    No. It's not enough. Improve your insults. For real.

    There will no SSDs on this machine. Never. HDDs only.

    Yes, the world is moving forward when you stay in the past

    Yes, and HDD manufacturers will keep on manufacturing HDDs
    well into the future.

    What's the future? One week? One year? One century? The only reason HDD
    are still available is because they are cheaper than SSD for huge
    storage. But once the price of SSD decrease they are replaced.

    SSDs are NOT the future.

    They are the present. I don't read the future, I don't know what new
    technology will be discovered in the future. So I don't know what is the future. But I know the HDD are the past and either they will be replaced
    by SSD or by something waiting to happen.

    They are merely an option for uninformed

    You don't know what information is.

    idiots like you.

    Once again, I refuse your badge of honor: improve. Stop pretending.
    Start improving, don't stay that limited in everything, including your
    insults.

    Because the only possibility to fine
    tune a kernel seriously is to try a lot of options and to benchmark
    every choice.

    Give it up, Carpenter.

    You just admit failure, why should I continue?

    You are a helpless distro lackey and you will always be a helpless
    distro lackey.

    It changes nothing about you lying about customizing your kernel.

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  • From Andrzej Matuch@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 29 08:50:54 2024
    On 2024-12-29 08:19, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
    Le 29-12-2024, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> a écrit :
    On 2024-12-28 21:36, Joel wrote:
    Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:

    Because he's not that clever, filtering Larry Pietraskiewicz is rather >>>> simple. I don't see any of his garbage.

    I actually like reading his bullshit, it's a reminder that there are
    still nutty people in the world.

    Well, some of us are masochists...

    I like reading his messages because he's funny. He's very limited, but
    he's funny anyway. So, it's not masochism (for my part).

    If he weren't so willing to insult everyone, he could be a decent part
    of a conversation, I guess. I have lost any interest in communicating
    with him that I might have had though.

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 29 14:14:54 2024
    On 29 Dec 2024 13:17:11 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    Once again, I already answered that: the possibility to boot directly my Linux Kernel without the need of a bloated boot manager. But you can't understand what a simple boot is.


    For one thing, UEFI would require me to re-partition my HDDs to
    include that stupid special UEFI partition. That would be a
    lot of work and for what gain?

    For what gain?

    Nothing. That's the answer.

    YOU, however, have nothing to be concerned about because your
    distro does all the partitioning for you. All you have to do
    is float along like a helpless piece of driftwood.


    Start improving, don't stay that limited in everything,
    including your insults.


    I learned my insults from the great "Uncle Al," who was a
    former contributor to the Usenet group sci.physics.

    The single term "idiot" says it all very succinctly.

    https://boudewijnhuijgens.getarchive.net/amp/media/macrocephalic-idiot-44743f





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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 29 15:03:57 2024
    Le 29-12-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
    On 29 Dec 2024 13:17:11 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    Once again, I already answered that: the possibility to boot directly my
    Linux Kernel without the need of a bloated boot manager. But you can't
    understand what a simple boot is.


    For one thing, UEFI would require me to re-partition my HDDs to
    include that stupid special UEFI partition. That would be a
    lot of work and for what gain?

    You never stop being proud of you lack of knowledge. So partitioning a
    hard drive is not a lot of work, it's a fast and easy thing to do by
    anyone but you. And on a new computer you have to do that anyway. No?
    You didn't? It means you keep the partitioning your hard drive came with?
    You didn't add a swap partition? And you kept your FAT partition? Yes,
    you are a Windows user, it's obvious from a very long time.

    For what gain?

    To have a computer designed to run Linux instead of Windows would be a
    good start.

    Nothing. That's the answer.

    Yes, I know, you prefer Windows to Linux. But here I'm speaking about a computer running Linux, not Windows. And if Linux can read/write on a
    FAT partition, it's not the best choice for a Linux installation.

    YOU, however, have nothing to be concerned about because your
    distro does all the partitioning for you. All you have to do
    is float along like a helpless piece of driftwood.

    As you speak only about what you don't know, I'll tell you a secret. I
    had to partition my hard drive by myself. As you are afraid of
    everything that's recent, I know you can't use gparted to do the job. As
    you are afraid of the command line, I know you can't use fdisk either.
    But, you could use a usb stick with a live distro on it to use
    gnome-disk which could help you using your mouse.

    Start improving, don't stay that limited in everything,
    including your insults.

    I learned my insults from the great "Uncle Al," who was a
    former contributor to the Usenet group sci.physics.

    You learned only one insult because you can't learn and because you have
    no creative capacities.

    The single term "idiot" says it all very succinctly.

    It's mostly limited.

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 29 15:47:25 2024
    On 29 Dec 2024 15:03:57 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    You never stop being proud of you lack of knowledge. So partitioning a
    hard drive is not a lot of work, it's a fast and easy thing to do by
    anyone but you. And on a new computer you have to do that anyway. No?


    You never stop being an idiot.

    All my HDDs are partitioned according to a certain scheme so that
    I can make backups very easily. If this scheme were to change then
    I would have to rewrite all my backup scripts which would be a lot
    of work.

    Let me state the absolute facts for your idiotic self:

    UEFI, like systemd, is totally unnecessary.

    UEFI, like systemd, is an answer looking for a question.

    UEFI, like systemd, is only for total idiots like you.



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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sun Dec 29 18:27:14 2024
    On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 17:18:24 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:


    I haven't checked the meaning of asinine yet but I bet since it has an ingredient of "ass" in it it must be just the word for what I described
    as part of brain having formed around anus.


    Ha, ha, ha, ha! That's hilarious!

    I doubt if that is the true etymology of the word but it does
    fit the current context.

    These people have their heads up their asses.




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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to Lameass Larry on Mon Dec 30 19:13:55 2024
    On 12/29/2024 10:47 AM, Lameass Larry wrote:


    All my HDDs are partitioned according to a certain scheme so that
    I can make backups very easily. If this scheme were to change then
    I would have to rewrite all my backup scripts which would be a lot
    of work.


    Post those scripts so we can laugh at the buffoonery.

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Tue Dec 31 17:34:59 2024
    On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 08:41:39 -0000 (UTC), Physfitfreak wrote:


    I think those who pretend they're not reading Farley but are secretly
    reading everything he posts, are perverts.

    It would be like unzipping a man's zipper to peek at his dick.


    Don't bother to characterize these idiots.

    They are so stupid that they could never understand, let alone
    benefit from, the insult.

    Ten years from now, if Usenet lasts that long, they will still
    be spewing their standard idiotic refrains over and over.


    --
    Gentoo: The Fastest GNU/Linux Hands Down

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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 31 13:36:31 2024
    On 12/31/2024 12:34 PM, Lameass Larry Piet (Farley Flud) wrote:

    On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 08:41:39 -0000 (UTC), Physfitfreak wrote:


    I think those who pretend they're not reading Farley but are secretly
    reading everything he posts, are perverts.

    It would be like unzipping a man's zipper to peek at his dick.


    Don't bother to characterize these idiots.

    They are so stupid that they could never understand, let alone
    benefit from, the insult.

    Ten years from now, if Usenet lasts that long, they will still
    be spewing their standard idiotic refrains over and over.


    Talking about yourself, of course. Most of what you say about
    computers, software, programming or technology is ignorant and/or
    ridiculous.

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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to Joel on Tue Dec 31 19:34:41 2024
    On 12/28/2024 1:08 PM, Joel wrote:
    Lameass Larry Piet (Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks>) wrote:

    SSDs are a gimmick made for assholes.


    You are the stupidest piece of shit, I swear.


    ha!!

    Amazing, isn't it? Nearly everything the dummy gurgles about software
    and hardware and computer usage is ignorant and/or ridiculous.

    This is a Feeb classic:

    "C requires brains and intelligence. C++ doesn't."

    Who says stupid shit like that?

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to DFS on Wed Jan 1 02:31:14 2025
    On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 19:34:41 -0500, DFS wrote:

    This is a Feeb classic:

    "C requires brains and intelligence. C++ doesn't."

    Who says stupid shit like that?


    Obviously not anyone who has tried to use C++. Caveat: my C++ fu is
    severely out of date. It may have gotten better when I wasn't looking.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to rbowman on Wed Jan 1 07:33:34 2025
    rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 19:34:41 -0500, DFS wrote:

    This is a Feeb classic:

    "C requires brains and intelligence. C++ doesn't."

    Who says stupid shit like that?

    Obviously not anyone who has tried to use C++. Caveat: my C++ fu is
    severely out of date. It may have gotten better when I wasn't looking.

    Both languages require care and diligence, and an intuitive understanding of their memory models (which overlap a bit).

    All languages do.

    I've spend decades working with C and C++, and am very comfortable with them.
    I still google or read up on various solutions, just to be sure I've got the best or newest solution in mind.

    This is one of the most important benefits of C++:

    https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/raii

    Resource Acquisition Is Initialization or RAII, is a C++ programming
    technique which binds the life cycle of a resource that must be acquired
    before use (allocated heap memory, thread of execution, open socket, open
    file, locked mutex, disk space, database connection—anything that exists in
    limited supply) to the lifetime of an object.

    RAII guarantees that the resource is available to any function that may
    access the object (resource availability is a class invariant, eliminating
    redundant runtime tests). It also guarantees that all resources are
    released when the lifetime of their controlling object ends, in reverse
    order of acquisition. Likewise, if resource acquisition fails (the
    constructor exits with an exception), all resources acquired by every
    fully-constructed member and base subobject are released in reverse order
    of initialization. This leverages the core language features (object
    lifetime, scope exit, order of initialization and stack unwinding) to
    eliminate resource leaks and guarantee exception safety. Another name for
    this technique is Scope-Bound Resource Management (SBRM), after the basic
    use case where the lifetime of an RAII object ends due to scope exit.

    --
    As long as there are entrenched social and political distinctions
    between sexes, races or classes, there will be forms of science whose
    main function is to rationalize and legitimize these distinctions.
    -- Elizabeth Fee

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