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  • Recommended Mini-PCs: ALL Windows and Mac, ZERO Linux

    From DFS@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 4 11:03:04 2025
    ...as it ever was and ever will be.

    The word "Linux" is the kiss of death for retail computers.

    "Linux" in the specs = automatic rejection by shoppers.

    "GNU/Linux" is even worse; it conjures images of idiots dancing around shamelessly in public in ugly antelope-head costumes tossing empty boxes
    of Windows into a big trash can.


    https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-mini-desktop-pcs/ https://www.techradar.com/best/mini-pcs https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Mini-Computers/zgbs/pc/13896591011 https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/gaming-pcs/best-mini-pcs-for-gaming/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/best-mini-pc/


    Before you get your panties in a wad:
    https://itsfoss.com/linux-based-mini-pc/

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 4 21:57:24 2025
    So when is the year of Windows-on-ARM?

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Sun Jan 5 00:31:55 2025
    On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 21:57:24 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    So when is the year of Windows-on-ARM?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIgnHPqp0Dk

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to RonB on Sun Jan 5 21:23:54 2025
    On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 13:48:36 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

    On 2025-01-05, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 21:57:24 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    So when is the year of Windows-on-ARM?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIgnHPqp0Dk

    I didn't even know that was Judy Collins song. This is the first version
    of the song that I heard...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4d0R0uI79Y

    Ian Tyson wrote it. He also wrote 'Four Strong Winds'.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3m7ckGhnsc

    Ian & Sylvia had some popularity in the '60s but covers by other artists
    made a bigger splash. Tyson wrote many other songs that only he recorded.
    He was the real deal, a rodeo cowboy before an accident ended that career
    and he turned to music. After Sylvia split he was a rancher in Alberta,
    still writing but never made it big and didn't do many live performances.
    I saw him in the '90s when he played in a meeting room at UM, not a huge
    venue.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DqxWiX0fnE

    That's one of his later ones. Dallas was recaptured and served 22 years
    before he was released. There was no doubt he killed the game wardens but
    they were a long way from home. I've been in the Owyhee and from Boise you
    have to go down through Nevada to get there. In 1981 there were no GPSs so
    in the middle of nowhere the Idaho/Nevada line isn't marked on the
    sagebrush. Besides that there was a general feeling that Pogue needed to
    be shot but Elms was a nice guy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFzY6xZKrmY

    The 'springtime in Alberta' line works for Montana too.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Joel on Mon Jan 6 07:42:34 2025
    Joel wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:

    ...as it ever was and ever will be.

    The word "Linux" is the kiss of death for retail computers.

    "Linux" in the specs = automatic rejection by shoppers.

    "GNU/Linux" is even worse; it conjures images of idiots dancing around >>shamelessly in public in ugly antelope-head costumes tossing empty boxes
    of Windows into a big trash can.

    :-D

    What image does "Micro Soft" conjure? :-D

    <nsip>


    A lot of Winblows licenses are over- or co-written with Linux, I would
    buy 11 Home on an ARM laptop and switch it to Linux.

    DFS is a trolling clown. A great source of laffs!

    --
    <jgoerzen> stu: ahh that machine. Don't you think that something named
    stallman deserves to be an Alpha? :-)
    <stu> jgoerzen: no, actually, I'd prolly be more inclined to name a 386
    with 4 megs of ram and a 40 meg hard drive stallman.
    <stu> with a big fat case that makes tons of noise and rattles the floor
    * Knghtbrd falls to the floor holding his sides laughing
    <stu> and..
    <stu> double-height hard drive

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  • From Andrzej Matuch@21:1/5 to Joel on Mon Jan 6 10:22:35 2025
    On 2025-01-05 20:45, Joel wrote:
    DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:

    ...as it ever was and ever will be.

    The word "Linux" is the kiss of death for retail computers.

    "Linux" in the specs = automatic rejection by shoppers.

    "GNU/Linux" is even worse; it conjures images of idiots dancing around
    shamelessly in public in ugly antelope-head costumes tossing empty boxes
    of Windows into a big trash can.


    https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-mini-desktop-pcs/
    https://www.techradar.com/best/mini-pcs
    https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Mini-Computers/zgbs/pc/13896591011
    https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/gaming-pcs/best-mini-pcs-for-gaming/
    https://www.zdnet.com/article/best-mini-pc/


    Before you get your panties in a wad:
    https://itsfoss.com/linux-based-mini-pc/


    A lot of Winblows licenses are over- or co-written with Linux, I would
    buy 11 Home on an ARM laptop and switch it to Linux.

    And you would probably have a superior experience. My understanding is
    that if I had an ARM machine, a Linux distribution with full software
    support would already be available to me. With Windows, _some_
    applications might have been ported over to work natively, whereas most
    would be running in emulation and not allowing me to benefit from ARM's features.

    --
    Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
    Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch
    Zephyrus G14 GA401QM on Fedora 41
    KDE supporting member

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to RonB on Mon Jan 6 18:22:16 2025
    On Mon, 6 Jan 2025 10:25:52 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:


    So it was originally a country song, that became a pop song and then a country again. I like the origina. Never heard of Ian Tyson before. I
    think I'll look up some of his music.

    Tyson never was mainstream country. There are quite a few singer-
    songwriters that had a song or two that were covered by country artists
    but never made it big time themselves.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTwUpkEK6yk

    Jerry Jeff Walker did pretty good with it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOctHMWoYyc

    Nelson and Haggard had a hit with it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaP8NGML_QE

    Emmylou Harris and Don Williams charted with that one. David Allen Coe
    reworked it into 'Would You Lay With Me' but Tanya Tucker's cover is the
    best known. Coe was a little too outlaw for outlaw country.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9UhOwfUAMA

    Crystal Gale's cover is the best known. I think Kristofferson did it too.

    Steve Earle did okay with 'Guitar Town' and 'Copperhead Road' but some of
    his other songs are better known by other artists.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartworn_Highways

    Quite a few of the writers hung out together so there was a lot of cross pollination.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OU4ZhZc5Zw

    Waylon doing a Steve Young cover.

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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Mon Jan 6 13:46:18 2025
    On 1/6/2025 7:42 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Joel wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:

    ...as it ever was and ever will be.

    The word "Linux" is the kiss of death for retail computers.

    "Linux" in the specs = automatic rejection by shoppers.

    "GNU/Linux" is even worse; it conjures images of idiots dancing around
    shamelessly in public in ugly antelope-head costumes tossing empty boxes >>> of Windows into a big trash can.

    :-D

    What image does "Micro Soft" conjure? :-D


    Still hiding in a killfile and replying 3rd party... very creepy,
    Creepy. shitv does it too.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to Andrzej Matuch on Mon Jan 6 18:41:14 2025
    On Mon, 6 Jan 2025 10:22:35 -0500, Andrzej Matuch wrote:

    And you would probably have a superior experience. My understanding is
    that if I had an ARM machine, a Linux distribution with full software
    support would already be available to me. With Windows, _some_
    applications might have been ported over to work natively, whereas most
    would be running in emulation and not allowing me to benefit from ARM's features.

    It isn't meant to be a full laptop experience but the Raspberry Pi 5
    running the Debian derived Raspberry Pi OS shows what is possible. It has Chromium or Firefox for broswers, a modified LXDE DE and move importantly
    for me, VS Code. It has Vim but not Gvim. I think that has to do with the
    Gtk version. People have put other distros on as well.

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