DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
"Hi DFS,
Thank you for your interest in our products! While System76 only
installs, tests, and supports Ubuntu and Pop!_OS, customers are welcome
to install other operating systems on our hardware without voiding your
warranty. We test against the Linux kernel, and distros with a current
kernel will most likely work well.
We can't guarantee that other distros will function at 100% but we do
offer a 30 day limited money back guarantee on all purchases, so if
there's an issue you can return for a full refund minus the cost of
shipping and any damages. You can find more details about our warranty
here: https://system76.com/warranty.
I am also including a link to a support article that goes into detail
about using Windows on our systems:
https://support.system76.com/articles/windows
Thanks again and please let us know if you need anything else.
Sincerely,
Bill"
That support article is actually very very good. Seems like a
trustworthy company.
They're good but would cost more than a self-build I presume.
... customers are welcome to install other operating systems on our
hardware without voiding your warranty.
"Hi DFS,
Thank you for your interest in our products! While System76 only
installs, tests, and supports Ubuntu and Pop!_OS, customers are welcome
to install other operating systems on our hardware without voiding your warranty. We test against the Linux kernel, and distros with a current
kernel will most likely work well.
We can't guarantee that other distros will function at 100% but we do
offer a 30 day limited money back guarantee on all purchases, so if
there's an issue you can return for a full refund minus the cost of
shipping and any damages. You can find more details about our warranty
here: https://system76.com/warranty.
I am also including a link to a support article that goes into detail
about using Windows on our systems:
https://support.system76.com/articles/windows
Thanks again and please let us know if you need anything else.
Sincerely,
Bill"
That support article is actually very very good. Seems like a
trustworthy company.
On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 22:20:56 -0500, DFS wrote:
... customers are welcome to install other operating systems on our
hardware without voiding your warranty.
Well, that’s one polite way to tell you to piss off.
DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
"Hi DFS,
Thank you for your interest in our products! While System76 only
installs, tests, and supports Ubuntu and Pop!_OS, customers are welcome
to install other operating systems on our hardware without voiding your
warranty. We test against the Linux kernel, and distros with a current
kernel will most likely work well.
We can't guarantee that other distros will function at 100% but we do
offer a 30 day limited money back guarantee on all purchases, so if
there's an issue you can return for a full refund minus the cost of
shipping and any damages. You can find more details about our warranty
here: https://system76.com/warranty.
I am also including a link to a support article that goes into detail
about using Windows on our systems:
https://support.system76.com/articles/windows
Thanks again and please let us know if you need anything else.
Sincerely,
Bill"
That support article is actually very very good. Seems like a
trustworthy company.
They're good but would cost more than a self-build I presume.
On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 22:20:56 -0500, DFS wrote:
... customers are welcome to install other operating systems on our
hardware without voiding your warranty.
Well, that’s one polite way to tell you to piss off.
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2025-01-07 22:31, Joel wrote:
DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
"Hi DFS,
Thank you for your interest in our products! While System76 only
installs, tests, and supports Ubuntu and Pop!_OS, customers are welcome >>>> to install other operating systems on our hardware without voiding your >>>> warranty. We test against the Linux kernel, and distros with a current >>>> kernel will most likely work well.
We can't guarantee that other distros will function at 100% but we do
offer a 30 day limited money back guarantee on all purchases, so if
there's an issue you can return for a full refund minus the cost of
shipping and any damages. You can find more details about our warranty >>>> here: https://system76.com/warranty.
I am also including a link to a support article that goes into detail
about using Windows on our systems:
https://support.system76.com/articles/windows
Thanks again and please let us know if you need anything else.
Sincerely,
Bill"
That support article is actually very very good. Seems like a
trustworthy company.
They're good but would cost more than a self-build I presume.
Usually, desktops are less expensive if you buy them pre-built. They're
released a few articles on that already and shown that buying a
pre-built gaming machine, for example, will cost you less than building
one yourself _unless_ you already have a few parts and don't intend to
replace them.
Since I initially used CPU video, I saved by building, more quality
for the money, and when I did move to a video card I bought an
inexpensive one.
On 1/8/2025 1:34 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 22:20:56 -0500, DFS wrote:
... customers are welcome to install other operating systems on our
hardware without voiding your warranty.
Well, that’s one polite way to tell you to piss off.
I wonder how many requests they get for Windows.
It's got to be in the millions.
On 2025-01-08 01:34, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 22:20:56 -0500, DFS wrote:
... customers are welcome to install other operating systems on our
hardware without voiding your warranty.
Well, that’s one polite way to tell you to piss off.
Not really.
On 1/8/2025 1:34 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 22:20:56 -0500, DFS wrote:
... customers are welcome to install other operating systems on our
hardware without voiding your warranty.
Well, that’s one polite way to tell you to piss off.
I wonder how many requests they get for Windows.
It's got to be in the millions.
On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 12:18:11 -0500, DFS wrote:
On 1/8/2025 1:34 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 22:20:56 -0500, DFS wrote:
... customers are welcome to install other operating systems on our
hardware without voiding your warranty.
Well, that’s one polite way to tell you to piss off.
I wonder how many requests they get for Windows.
It's got to be in the millions.
System 76? Given the wealth of choices for Windows machines why would
anyone, except DFS, approach a vendor whose raison d'être is providing
Linux machines asking for Windows? Do you order a steak in a seafood restaurant?
I looked at the costs of decent GPUs on the PC and I don't blame you for
not paying what they're asking.
My future son-in-law has given me his GTX 1080 Ti, for my new PC build.
It's obviously far from new, but is still viable for many modern games.
On 2025-01-09, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 12:18:11 -0500, DFS wrote:
On 1/8/2025 1:34 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 22:20:56 -0500, DFS wrote:
... customers are welcome to install other operating systems on our
hardware without voiding your warranty.
Well, that’s one polite way to tell you to piss off.
I wonder how many requests they get for Windows.
It's got to be in the millions.
System 76? Given the wealth of choices for Windows machines why would
anyone, except DFS, approach a vendor whose raison d'être is providing
Linux machines asking for Windows? Do you order a steak in a seafood
restaurant?
DuFuS always clutches at straws in his lame attempts to denigrate Linux.
CrudeSausage wrote:
I looked at the costs of decent GPUs on the PC and I don't blame you for
not paying what they're asking.
My future son-in-law has given me his GTX 1080 Ti, for my new PC
build. It's obviously far from new, but is still viable for many
modern games.
On 2025-01-09 03:48, RonB wrote:
On 2025-01-09, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 12:18:11 -0500, DFS wrote:
On 1/8/2025 1:34 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 22:20:56 -0500, DFS wrote:
... customers are welcome to install other operating systems on our >>>>>> hardware without voiding your warranty.
Well, that’s one polite way to tell you to piss off.
I wonder how many requests they get for Windows.
It's got to be in the millions.
System 76? Given the wealth of choices for Windows machines why would
anyone, except DFS, approach a vendor whose raison d'être is providing
Linux machines asking for Windows? Do you order a steak in a seafood
restaurant?
DuFuS always clutches at straws in his lame attempts to denigrate Linux.
Admittedly, I don't see why a person intending to use Windows would
complain that System76 or ThinkPenguin isn't catering to them.
On 1/9/2025 10:01 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
On 2025-01-09 03:48, RonB wrote:
On 2025-01-09, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 12:18:11 -0500, DFS wrote:
On 1/8/2025 1:34 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 22:20:56 -0500, DFS wrote:
... customers are welcome to install other operating systems on our >>>>>>> hardware without voiding your warranty.
Well, that’s one polite way to tell you to piss off.
I wonder how many requests they get for Windows.
It's got to be in the millions.
System 76? Given the wealth of choices for Windows machines why would
anyone, except DFS, approach a vendor whose raison d'être is providing >>>> Linux machines asking for Windows? Do you order a steak in a seafood
restaurant?
DuFuS always clutches at straws in his lame attempts to denigrate Linux.
Admittedly, I don't see why a person intending to use Windows would
complain that System76 or ThinkPenguin isn't catering to them.
I wasn't complaining. I was curious if they would sell a Windows
system. Thru the years I've asked 6 or 8 Windows PC vendors if they
would sell Linux preinstalls.
I wasn't complaining. I was curious if they would sell a Windows
system. Thru the years I've asked 6 or 8 Windows PC vendors if they
would sell Linux preinstalls.
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 11:11:47 -0500, DFS wrote:
I wasn't complaining. I was curious if they would sell a Windows
system. Thru the years I've asked 6 or 8 Windows PC vendors if they
would sell Linux preinstalls.
And their answers? Dell has a number.
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/scr/laptops/appref=ubuntu- >>linux-os
Not bad. Although Ubuntu has never been my preferred distro.
On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 11:11:47 -0500, DFS wrote:
I wasn't complaining. I was curious if they would sell a Windows
system. Thru the years I've asked 6 or 8 Windows PC vendors if they
would sell Linux preinstalls.
And their answers? Dell has a number.
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/scr/laptops/appref=ubuntu- linux-os
On Thu, 09 Jan 2025 13:52:21 -0500, Joel wrote:
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 11:11:47 -0500, DFS wrote:
I wasn't complaining. I was curious if they would sell a Windows
system. Thru the years I've asked 6 or 8 Windows PC vendors if they
would sell Linux preinstalls.
And their answers? Dell has a number.
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/scr/laptops/appref=ubuntu- >>>linux-os
Not bad. Although Ubuntu has never been my preferred distro.
I'll agree with that. After my update to 24.04 yesterday I found I have a block of BSD games on the menu.
https://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/BSD_games
WTF? Even more confusing while there is an icon they have to be started
from the command line in a terminal. I didn't like 'adventure' back in the day and certainly didn't expect it to be part of an 'upgrade'
On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 11:11:47 -0500, DFS wrote:
I wasn't complaining. I was curious if they would sell a Windows
system. Thru the years I've asked 6 or 8 Windows PC vendors if they
would sell Linux preinstalls.
And their answers? Dell has a number.
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/scr/laptops/appref=ubuntu- linux-os
On 1/9/2025 1:37 PM, rbowman wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 11:11:47 -0500, DFS wrote:
I wasn't complaining. I was curious if they would sell a Windows
system. Thru the years I've asked 6 or 8 Windows PC vendors if they
would sell Linux preinstalls.
And their answers? Dell has a number.
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/scr/laptops/appref=ubuntu-
linux-os
Dell has offered a limited number of Linux systems for about 15 years.
Most PC OEMs only sell Windows. I don't recall any saying they would install Linux for me, but a few would sell a no-OS system for a discount.
Adventure is already installed on my Debian and Arch systems. They seem
to be compiled with different options, though. And stored in completely different places.
Most PC OEMs only sell Windows. I don't recall any saying they would
install Linux for me, but a few would sell a no-OS system for a
discount.
On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 10:28:16 -0500, DFS wrote:
Most PC OEMs only sell Windows. I don't recall any saying they would
install Linux for me, but a few would sell a no-OS system for a
discount.
I never bothered. The old Dell had 7 and I dual booted it with OpenSUSE.
The Beelink had 11 Pro and I replaced it with Ubuntu. I don't know what
the manufacturers pay for the OEM licenses but it doesn't add much cost to the system.
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 10:28:16 -0500, DFS wrote:
Most PC OEMs only sell Windows. I don't recall any saying they would
install Linux for me, but a few would sell a no-OS system for a
discount.
I never bothered. The old Dell had 7 and I dual booted it with OpenSUSE. >>The Beelink had 11 Pro and I replaced it with Ubuntu. I don't know what
the manufacturers pay for the OEM licenses but it doesn't add much cost
to the system.
OEMs' parts are junk.
... a few would sell a no-OS system for a discount.
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