On 1/14/25 1:35 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 12:43:15 -0500, -hh wrote:
But if this alleged fuze is for the microphone, then where is it?Oops. I erred. There is no fuse on this unit.
FYI, claiming it is "hidden" doesn't fly because that means that you
chose to make it unservicable,
QED.
Sidenote: Do they still teach electronics with discrete components in
High School? I hope so...I learned it growing up, but having a
structured course with theory helped with my "STEM" career (which wasn't called that back then...).
On 14 Jan 2025 22:34:47 GMT, vallor wrote:
Sidenote: Do they still teach electronics with discrete components in
High School? I hope so...I learned it growing up, but having a
structured course with theory helped with my "STEM" career (which
wasn't called that back then...).
My high school didn't have an electronics course. Had they, given the
lag between high school courses and the rest of the world, the discretes would have been 6AU6s pentode and six dot mica capacitors.
https://www.radioremembered.org/capcode.htm
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/RYYAAOSwxT5nV79L/s-l1600.webp
If you don't know what the image is your education was limited. I had an advantage. My uncle owned a radio and TV store where the 'store' part
was small compared to the back room with units waiting repair. 'In those
days when the TV repairman, who made house calls, pronounced 'it has to
go back to the shop' it was like your doctor telling you that you should
get your affairs in order.
He was old enough that in the course of his life radios and then TVs
were cutting edge technology.
On 15 Jan 2025 00:39:16 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
<luoedkF6gdtU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 14 Jan 2025 22:34:47 GMT, vallor wrote:
Sidenote: Do they still teach electronics with discrete components in
High School? I hope so...I learned it growing up, but having a
structured course with theory helped with my "STEM" career (which
wasn't called that back then...).
My high school didn't have an electronics course. Had they, given the
lag between high school courses and the rest of the world, the discretes
would have been 6AU6s pentode and six dot mica capacitors.
https://www.radioremembered.org/capcode.htm
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/RYYAAOSwxT5nV79L/s-l1600.webp
If you don't know what the image is your education was limited. I had an
advantage. My uncle owned a radio and TV store where the 'store' part
was small compared to the back room with units waiting repair. 'In those
days when the TV repairman, who made house calls, pronounced 'it has to
go back to the shop' it was like your doctor telling you that you should
get your affairs in order.
He was old enough that in the course of his life radios and then TVs
were cutting edge technology.
I remember watching our old black & white console while it blew
a cap.
It was an extended affair, lasting maybe a minute -- the
tv was making a keening noise as the picture bent inward on
one side. Then "pop!" and the picture went away.
We never had tv repairmen -- Dad always fixed it. He also
fixed my Hallicrafters S-38 at his shop while I watched, getting
rid of the 60Hz hum and adding a standard headphone jack.
https://antiqueradio.org/halli08.htm
As an avid SWL, the HF propagation experience helped a lot
with my Radioman rating in the CG.
Could also hear quite a bit about what was going on in
the world, thanks to having a very, very long longwire
antenna. Building that was how Dad taught me to differentiate
between physical connections and electrical connections. Made
from zip-cord, it went out the window, up a tree, then out to
a pole at one corner of the yard, then across to another pole
at the other end of the yard. Great for DX listening.
vallor wrote:
On 15 Jan 2025 00:39:16 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote inwhy didn't you try transmitting
<luoedkF6gdtU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 14 Jan 2025 22:34:47 GMT, vallor wrote:
Sidenote: Do they still teach electronics with discrete components in
High School? I hope so...I learned it growing up, but having a
structured course with theory helped with my "STEM" career (which
wasn't called that back then...).
My high school didn't have an electronics course. Had they, given the
lag between high school courses and the rest of the world, the
discretes would have been 6AU6s pentode and six dot mica capacitors.
https://www.radioremembered.org/capcode.htm
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/RYYAAOSwxT5nV79L/s-l1600.webp
If you don't know what the image is your education was limited. I had
an advantage. My uncle owned a radio and TV store where the 'store'
part was small compared to the back room with units waiting repair.
'In those days when the TV repairman, who made house calls, pronounced
'it has to go back to the shop' it was like your doctor telling you
that you should get your affairs in order.
He was old enough that in the course of his life radios and then TVs
were cutting edge technology.
I remember watching our old black & white console while it blew a cap.
It was an extended affair, lasting maybe a minute -- the tv was making
a keening noise as the picture bent inward on one side. Then "pop!"
and the picture went away.
We never had tv repairmen -- Dad always fixed it. He also fixed my
Hallicrafters S-38 at his shop while I watched, getting rid of the 60Hz
hum and adding a standard headphone jack.
https://antiqueradio.org/halli08.htm
As an avid SWL, the HF propagation experience helped a lot with my
Radioman rating in the CG.
Could also hear quite a bit about what was going on in the world,
thanks to having a very, very long longwire antenna. Building that was
how Dad taught me to differentiate between physical connections and
electrical connections. Made from zip-cord, it went out the window, up
a tree, then out to a pole at one corner of the yard, then across to
another pole at the other end of the yard. Great for DX listening.
vallor wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 18:23:32 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote inok well you didn't mention that and it sounded like a great dipole
<mpadnRRAVuzVkxr6nZ2dnZfqnPEAAAAA@giganews.com>:
vallor wrote:
On 15 Jan 2025 00:39:16 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote inwhy didn't you try transmitting
<luoedkF6gdtU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 14 Jan 2025 22:34:47 GMT, vallor wrote:
Sidenote: Do they still teach electronics with discrete components >>>>>> in High School? I hope so...I learned it growing up, but having a >>>>>> structured course with theory helped with my "STEM" career (which
wasn't called that back then...).
My high school didn't have an electronics course. Had they, given
the lag between high school courses and the rest of the world, the
discretes would have been 6AU6s pentode and six dot mica capacitors. >>>>>
https://www.radioremembered.org/capcode.htm
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/RYYAAOSwxT5nV79L/s-l1600.webp
If you don't know what the image is your education was limited. I
had an advantage. My uncle owned a radio and TV store where the
'store' part was small compared to the back room with units waiting
repair. 'In those days when the TV repairman, who made house calls,
pronounced 'it has to go back to the shop' it was like your doctor
telling you that you should get your affairs in order.
He was old enough that in the course of his life radios and then TVs >>>>> were cutting edge technology.
I remember watching our old black & white console while it blew a
cap.
It was an extended affair, lasting maybe a minute -- the tv was
making a keening noise as the picture bent inward on one side. Then
"pop!" and the picture went away.
We never had tv repairmen -- Dad always fixed it. He also fixed my
Hallicrafters S-38 at his shop while I watched, getting rid of the
60Hz hum and adding a standard headphone jack.
https://antiqueradio.org/halli08.htm
As an avid SWL, the HF propagation experience helped a lot with my
Radioman rating in the CG.
Could also hear quite a bit about what was going on in the world,
thanks to having a very, very long longwire antenna. Building that
was how Dad taught me to differentiate between physical connections
and electrical connections. Made from zip-cord, it went out the
window, up a tree, then out to a pole at one corner of the yard, then
across to another pole at the other end of the yard. Great for DX
listening.
Who says I didn't? But not on HF -- unless you count 27.125 MHz.
I did get my tech ham license while in the CG, which was handy because
we started doing MARS on the ship, and I ended up as chief operator.
Sometimes after the phone patches were done, I'd talk to the shoreside
ham volunteer in whose debt we all were, who had questions about our
gear.
We had some pretty swizzy mini-loop antennas that they wanted to know
about.
My dad and his best friend ran a TV repair biz on the side. As it turns
out he was a ham and had a Hallicrafters SX-100.
I used to listen to radio Moscow propaganda all the time.
I eventually got my novice license and then general.
Today I'm an amateur extra.
As an avid SWL, the HF propagation experience helped a lot with my
Radioman rating in the CG.
Could also hear quite a bit about what was going on in the world, thanks
to having a very, very long longwire antenna. Building that was how Dad taught me to differentiate between physical connections and electrical connections. Made from zip-cord, it went out the window, up a tree,
then out to a pole at one corner of the yard, then across to another
pole at the other end of the yard. Great for DX listening.
Who says I didn't? But not on HF -- unless you count 27.125 MHz.
He also erred, confusing the Amperage
On 14 Jan 2025 22:34:47 GMT, vallor wrote:
He also erred, confusing the Amperage
I don't err
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 13:53:36 -0500, -hh wrote:
On 1/14/25 1:35 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 12:43:15 -0500, -hh wrote:
Oops. I erred. There is no fuse on this unit.
But if this alleged fuze is for the microphone, then where is it?
FYI, claiming it is "hidden" doesn't fly because that means that you
chose to make it unserviceable,
QED.
He also erred, confusing the Amperage from a 120V
circuit for that for a 5V circuit -- then referred to
it as "EE", when it was basic electronics.
I was lucky enough to grow up with a Dad who was extremely
savvy to electronics, who learned the ropes from _his_ dad (as
well as being a Fire Control Technician in the Navy, and having
a career with electronics in DCPA/FEMA, and, and...).
Sidenote: Do they still teach electronics with discrete components
in High School? I hope so...I learned it growing up, but having
a structured course with theory helped with my "STEM" career (which
wasn't called that back then...).
ok well you didn't mention that and it sounded like a great dipole
'twasn't a dipole, 'twas a long wire, and I gave the
radio a really good ground.
Yup, Feeb failed 3rd grade math.
Farley Flud wrote:
On 15 Jan 2025 03:46:47 GMT, vallor wrote:i was getting there
ok well you didn't mention that and it sounded like a great dipole
'twasn't a dipole, 'twas a long wire, and I gave the
radio a really good ground.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! What a dunce!
EVERY antenna is a fucking dipole.
And don't start scrambling for stupid technical "loopholes"
just to save your sorry ass.
EVERY antenna is a fucking dipole.
Now shut the fuck up.
vallor wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 06:21:25 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote inthey're tapped where ever they can be , that's the whole idea for
<F4adnQYtKfjLKxr6nZ2dnZfqnPsAAAAA@giganews.com>:
Farley Flud wrote:
On 15 Jan 2025 03:46:47 GMT, vallor wrote:i was getting there
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! What a dunce!ok well you didn't mention that and it sounded like a great dipole
'twasn't a dipole, 'twas a long wire, and I gave the radio a really
good ground.
EVERY antenna is a fucking dipole.
And don't start scrambling for stupid technical "loopholes"
just to save your sorry ass.
EVERY antenna is a fucking dipole.
Now shut the fuck up.
So you're both wrong. Dipoles are tapped in the middle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipole_antenna
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_wire_antenna
Sigmonster for the Feeb:
getting around ,
corners and bends
On 15 Jan 2025 14:22:29 GMT, vallor wrote:
Is this a dipole?Yes, it is. But a dummy like you could never tell.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhombic_antenna
A Rhombic is merely 2 V-antennas connected end-to-end and a V-antenna is
... guess what ... a dipole.
Give it up, loser. You haven't a leg to stand on.
Is this a dipole?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhombic_antenna
If -- as you claim -- every antenna is a "dipole", then what
use is there in the term?
On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 16:26:51 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote
in <pan$b5c74$65460671$b69b76f0$73f9a684@linux.rocks>:
On 15 Jan 2025 14:22:29 GMT, vallor wrote:
Is this a dipole?Yes, it is. But a dummy like you could never tell.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhombic_antenna
A Rhombic is merely 2 V-antennas connected end-to-end and a V-antenna
is ... guess what ... a dipole.
Give it up, loser. You haven't a leg to stand on.
If -- as you claim -- every antenna is a "dipole", then what use is
there in the term?
I think this is another of your sophomoric semantics arguments.
So...is this a dipole?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopole_antenna
So according to Feeb, a monopole antenna is a dipole antenna.
On 15 Jan 2025 17:07:43 GMT, vallor wrote:
So according to Feeb, a monopole antenna is a dipole antenna.Yes, it fucking is.
More's the point: Who are people going to listen to?
Someone with the references that back him up, or some
Usenet Poe troll crank living with 2009 drives?
On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 18:01:14 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote in <pan$55db6$3fc31e5a$d165b8af$dd7e7acf@linux.rocks>:
On 15 Jan 2025 17:07:43 GMT, vallor wrote:
So according to Feeb, a monopole antenna is a dipole antenna.Yes, it fucking is.
No, it fucking isn't.
And you know it. Who do you think you're fooling?
More's the point: Who are people going to listen to?
Someone with the references that back him up, or some
Usenet Poe troll crank living with 2009 drives?
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 18:01:14 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote in <pan$55db6$3fc31e5a$d165b8af$dd7e7acf@linux.rocks>:
On 15 Jan 2025 17:07:43 GMT, vallor wrote:
So according to Feeb, a monopole antenna is a dipole antenna.Yes, it fucking is.
No, it fucking isn't.
And you know it. Who do you think you're fooling?
More's the point: Who are people going to listen to?
Someone with the references that back him up, or some
Usenet Poe troll crank living with 2009 drives?
In Christopher Coleman's book, "Foundations of Radio for Scientest and Technologists", there's a nice chapter on various kinds of antennas.
Section 8.5 is "The Monopole Antenna".
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