• Re: (OT) Oracle, as bad as Microsoft

    From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to RonB on Thu Jan 23 17:10:29 2025
    On 1/23/25 4:47 PM, RonB wrote:
    Ellison and Gates are cut from the same cloth — I'm posting due to the Oracle might be a "good" corporation to take over Microsoft post...

    What Ellison wants...

    Oracle CEO Larry Ellison envisions a future where AI revolutionizes
    healthcare by detecting early-stage cancer and creating personalized mRNA
    vaccine therapies tailored to individual needs.

    Ellison, the co-founder of Oracle, has ties to the CIA through the
    company’s origins.

    Oracle’s journey began with a project known as "Project Oracle,"
    partially funded to develop a database for the CIA.

    The company’s name was inspired by this very contract, with "Oracle"
    serving as the codename for the CIA's groundbreaking database initiative.

    And NSA was involved in getting Google off the ground. Gates' father (I believe) was a CIA connected lawyer. So there really aren't any "good guys" here.

    I saw that a few days ago, but I didn't bother to post it. I'm at a
    point where I just don't trust any corporation whatsoever to do the
    right thing.

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  • From Tyrone@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Thu Jan 23 22:38:08 2025
    On Jan 23, 2025 at 5:10:29 PM EST, "CrudeSausage" <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

    On 1/23/25 4:47 PM, RonB wrote:
    Ellison and Gates are cut from the same cloth — I'm posting due to the
    Oracle might be a "good" corporation to take over Microsoft post...

    What Ellison wants...

    Oracle CEO Larry Ellison envisions a future where AI revolutionizes
    healthcare by detecting early-stage cancer and creating personalized mRNA
    vaccine therapies tailored to individual needs.

    Ellison, the co-founder of Oracle, has ties to the CIA through the
    company’s origins.

    Oracle’s journey began with a project known as "Project Oracle,"
    partially funded to develop a database for the CIA.

    The company’s name was inspired by this very contract, with "Oracle" >> serving as the codename for the CIA's groundbreaking database initiative.

    And NSA was involved in getting Google off the ground. Gates' father (I
    believe) was a CIA connected lawyer. So there really aren't any "good guys" >> here.

    I saw that a few days ago, but I didn't bother to post it. I'm at a
    point where I just don't trust any corporation whatsoever to do the
    right thing.

    Corporations "do the right thing" every day. But it generally will be The
    Right Thing for the corporation. What you or I think is generally irrelevant.


    Unless - of course - if what the corporation wants to do is so absurd/wrong/immoral/whatever that it generates massive protests/bad press/declining stock prices/etc. Only then will a corporation change a decision.

    Remember when Apple wanted to scan everyone's photos for child porn?
    Certainly a noble idea on paper, but in reality was a huge privacy intrusion.
    After LOADS of bad press, Apple wisely backed down.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Thu Jan 23 23:56:01 2025
    On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 17:10:29 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:

    I'm at a point where I just don't trust any corporation whatsoever to do
    the right thing.

    Sure. But you have to admit, Oracle would be a good fit for taking over
    any remaining Microsoft IP that is worth anything, given that Oracle seems
    to derive most of its remaining revenue from leveraging its IP, anyway
    (e.g. the lawsuit against Google).

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Thu Jan 23 20:50:11 2025
    On 1/23/25 6:56 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 17:10:29 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:

    I'm at a point where I just don't trust any corporation whatsoever to do
    the right thing.

    Sure. But you have to admit, Oracle would be a good fit for taking over
    any remaining Microsoft IP that is worth anything, given that Oracle seems
    to derive most of its remaining revenue from leveraging its IP, anyway
    (e.g. the lawsuit against Google).

    The best case scenario would be for the code to be open-sourced,
    allowing people to improve it the way they did the AMD drivers that were open-sourced years ago. I know it will never happen though, with OS/2
    being a perfect example of what's most likely. If anything were to
    happen, I would only hope that the open-source world would react in the smartest way possible and get as many parties on board as possible as
    either users or developers.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to Tyrone on Thu Jan 23 20:47:12 2025
    On 1/23/25 5:38 PM, Tyrone wrote:
    On Jan 23, 2025 at 5:10:29 PM EST, "CrudeSausage" <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

    On 1/23/25 4:47 PM, RonB wrote:
    Ellison and Gates are cut from the same cloth — I'm posting due to the >>> Oracle might be a "good" corporation to take over Microsoft post...

    What Ellison wants...

    Oracle CEO Larry Ellison envisions a future where AI revolutionizes >>> healthcare by detecting early-stage cancer and creating personalized mRNA
    vaccine therapies tailored to individual needs.

    Ellison, the co-founder of Oracle, has ties to the CIA through the
    company’s origins.

    Oracle’s journey began with a project known as "Project Oracle,"
    partially funded to develop a database for the CIA.

    The company’s name was inspired by this very contract, with "Oracle" >>> serving as the codename for the CIA's groundbreaking database initiative.

    And NSA was involved in getting Google off the ground. Gates' father (I
    believe) was a CIA connected lawyer. So there really aren't any "good guys" >>> here.

    I saw that a few days ago, but I didn't bother to post it. I'm at a
    point where I just don't trust any corporation whatsoever to do the
    right thing.

    Corporations "do the right thing" every day. But it generally will be The Right Thing for the corporation. What you or I think is generally irrelevant.


    Unless - of course - if what the corporation wants to do is so absurd/wrong/immoral/whatever that it generates massive protests/bad press/declining stock prices/etc. Only then will a corporation change a decision.

    Remember when Apple wanted to scan everyone's photos for child porn? Certainly a noble idea on paper, but in reality was a huge privacy intrusion.
    After LOADS of bad press, Apple wisely backed down.

    I know exactly what you're referring to, but Apple benefits from the
    short-term memory of most people and people aren't mad at the company
    the way that they should be. I have to admit that I'm at a point where I
    don't want any data whatsoever on the cloud unless it's encrypted.

    On the topic of corporations though, you're right. You can't expect them
    to do anything except what is best for them. That's why limiting our
    reliance on them makes sense going forward.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Fri Jan 24 06:59:52 2025
    On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 20:50:11 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:

    On 1/23/25 6:56 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 17:10:29 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:

    I'm at a point where I just don't trust any corporation whatsoever to
    do the right thing.

    Sure. But you have to admit, Oracle would be a good fit for taking over
    any remaining Microsoft IP that is worth anything, given that Oracle
    seems to derive most of its remaining revenue from leveraging its IP,
    anyway (e.g. the lawsuit against Google).

    The best case scenario would be for the code to be open-sourced ...

    Oracle is one of the most open-source-hostile companies around. Look at
    what happened to all the open-source projects they inherited from Sun.

    That’s another reason why I think it would be a good fit.

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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Fri Jan 24 07:04:04 2025
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    Oracle would be a good fit for taking over
    any remaining Microsoft IP that is worth anything, given that Oracle seems
    to derive most of its remaining revenue from leveraging its IP, anyway
    (e.g. the lawsuit against Google).

    You mean the lawsuit over Java API's that Oracle lost?

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    options" - "-hh"

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Fri Jan 24 08:56:53 2025
    On 1/24/25 1:59 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 20:50:11 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:

    On 1/23/25 6:56 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 17:10:29 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:

    I'm at a point where I just don't trust any corporation whatsoever to
    do the right thing.

    Sure. But you have to admit, Oracle would be a good fit for taking over
    any remaining Microsoft IP that is worth anything, given that Oracle
    seems to derive most of its remaining revenue from leveraging its IP,
    anyway (e.g. the lawsuit against Google).

    The best case scenario would be for the code to be open-sourced ...

    Oracle is one of the most open-source-hostile companies around. Look at
    what happened to all the open-source projects they inherited from Sun.

    That’s another reason why I think it would be a good fit.

    I'll admit that I'm not too familiar with Oracle's work, but I also
    don't work in networking where I believe they make most of their money.
    I am aware that they are producing their own, Fedora-based distribution
    though.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Fri Jan 24 19:00:32 2025
    On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 08:56:53 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:

    I'll admit that I'm not too familiar with Oracle's work, but I also
    don't work in networking where I believe they make most of their money.
    I am aware that they are producing their own, Fedora-based distribution though.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_LLC_v._Oracle_America,_Inc.

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