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    From John Smyth@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 21 18:57:51 2025
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    'We were told to trust Fauci's bureaucrat, who ruled our lives but got everything wrong'

    <https://gatewayhispanic.com/video/we-were-told-to-trust-faucis-bureaucrat-who-ruled-our-lives-but-got-everything-wrong/>

    'For the past few years, we've been bombarded with messages from the
    government and its health experts, but none stood out more than Dr.
    Anthony Fauci. We were told to blindly trust this bureaucrat, the
    "smartest" of all, who was making decisions to protect our lives amid a
    global pandemic. However, now that the facts have come to light, it's impossible to ignore what really happened. The irony is undeniable:
    everything they told us turned out to be false.

    One of the main points of friction with Fauci's statements was the
    virus's origin. For a long time, we were told that COVID-19 did not come
    from a laboratory, that it was completely natural. Now, multiple
    agencies have confirmed what many suspected from the beginning: the
    virus could have escaped from a lab in Wuhan. Dr. Fauci, along with
    other health bureaucrats, insisted that this issue could not be
    questioned, but today we know the truth was different. This is just one
    of the many false claims made during the crisis.

    Fauci also told us that vaccinated people would not contract or transmit
    the virus. Again, he was wrong. As the pandemic progressed, thousands of
    fully vaccinated people contracted COVID-19, and many transmitted it to
    others. The promise that vaccines would be a definitive solution to the pandemic crumbled as reality hit us with new outbreaks and variants.
    Yet, despite the data showing otherwise, the official narrative did not
    change, and Fauci continued to defend his position.

    ADVERTISEMENT
    Another controversial point was the use of masks and social distancing restrictions. We were told that masks were essential to prevent the
    spread of the virus and that the six-foot distance was based on science. However, over time, doubts arose about the effectiveness of masks and
    the real scientific basis behind the distancing measures. Many experts
    began to question whether these policies were really necessary or if
    they were being implemented more for political reasons than public
    health.

    The final blow, however, was the denial of natural immunity. Fauci and
    other experts told us we could not trust immunity acquired through
    natural infection. This claim contradicted scientific studies showing
    that natural immunity could be even more durable than vaccine-induced
    immunity in some cases. Despite this, Dr. Fauci and other public
    officials continued to defend their policies without considering this
    evidence.

    The most troubling part was the imposition of a bureaucratic system that
    tried to control not only our lives but also what we were allowed to
    say. During the pandemic, there was a real attempt to create a
    Disinformation Governance Board, a group of federal bureaucrats that
    would decide what was "correct" information and what wasn't. This
    proposal, which could have censored any opinion or data contrary to the official narrative, reminded us that bureaucracy often acts as if it is
    above the constitution and individual rights.

    This attempt to control discourse and information only underscores the importance of trusting the democratic system. After all, the executive
    power was created by the Constitution to be vested in a president
    elected by the people, not in unelected bureaucrats who think they are
    smarter than ordinary citizens. It was the will of 77 million Americans
    that elected the president, not a bureaucracy that answers to no one.
    The people, through their vote, have the final say, not unelected
    officials who try to impose their worldview.


    It's time to remember that democracy lies in the hands of the people and
    that bureaucrats, although often well-intentioned, should not have
    absolute control over our lives. We must question the decisions imposed
    on us and always keep in mind the fundamental principles of our nation: freedom, democracy, and justice.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to John Smyth on Sat Feb 22 00:07:27 2025
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    On 2025-02-21, John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
    'We were told to trust Fauci's bureaucrat, who ruled our lives but got everything wrong'

    <https://gatewayhispanic.com/video/we-were-told-to-trust-faucis-bureaucrat-who-ruled-our-lives-but-got-everything-wrong/>

    'For the past few years, we've been bombarded with messages from the government and its health experts, but none stood out more than Dr.
    Anthony Fauci. We were told to blindly trust this bureaucrat, the
    "smartest" of all, who was making decisions to protect our lives amid a global pandemic. However, now that the facts have come to light, it's impossible to ignore what really happened. The irony is undeniable: everything they told us turned out to be false.

    One of the main points of friction with Fauci's statements was the
    virus's origin. For a long time, we were told that COVID-19 did not come
    from a laboratory, that it was completely natural. Now, multiple
    agencies have confirmed what many suspected from the beginning: the
    virus could have escaped from a lab in Wuhan. Dr. Fauci, along with
    other health bureaucrats, insisted that this issue could not be
    questioned, but today we know the truth was different. This is just one
    of the many false claims made during the crisis.

    Fauci also told us that vaccinated people would not contract or transmit
    the virus. Again, he was wrong. As the pandemic progressed, thousands of fully vaccinated people contracted COVID-19, and many transmitted it to others. The promise that vaccines would be a definitive solution to the pandemic crumbled as reality hit us with new outbreaks and variants.
    Yet, despite the data showing otherwise, the official narrative did not change, and Fauci continued to defend his position.

    ADVERTISEMENT
    Another controversial point was the use of masks and social distancing restrictions. We were told that masks were essential to prevent the
    spread of the virus and that the six-foot distance was based on science. However, over time, doubts arose about the effectiveness of masks and
    the real scientific basis behind the distancing measures. Many experts
    began to question whether these policies were really necessary or if
    they were being implemented more for political reasons than public
    health.

    The final blow, however, was the denial of natural immunity. Fauci and
    other experts told us we could not trust immunity acquired through
    natural infection. This claim contradicted scientific studies showing
    that natural immunity could be even more durable than vaccine-induced immunity in some cases. Despite this, Dr. Fauci and other public
    officials continued to defend their policies without considering this evidence.

    The most troubling part was the imposition of a bureaucratic system that tried to control not only our lives but also what we were allowed to
    say. During the pandemic, there was a real attempt to create a
    Disinformation Governance Board, a group of federal bureaucrats that
    would decide what was "correct" information and what wasn't. This
    proposal, which could have censored any opinion or data contrary to the official narrative, reminded us that bureaucracy often acts as if it is
    above the constitution and individual rights.

    This attempt to control discourse and information only underscores the importance of trusting the democratic system. After all, the executive
    power was created by the Constitution to be vested in a president
    elected by the people, not in unelected bureaucrats who think they are smarter than ordinary citizens. It was the will of 77 million Americans
    that elected the president, not a bureaucracy that answers to no one.
    The people, through their vote, have the final say, not unelected
    officials who try to impose their worldview.


    It's time to remember that democracy lies in the hands of the people and
    that bureaucrats, although often well-intentioned, should not have
    absolute control over our lives. We must question the decisions imposed
    on us and always keep in mind the fundamental principles of our nation: freedom, democracy, and justice.

    Follow the money and the truth about midget Fauci will be revealed.

    --
    pothead

    Why did Joe Biden pardon his family?
    Read below to learn the reason.
    The Biden Crime Family Timeline here: https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to pothead on Fri Feb 21 19:10:30 2025
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    pothead wrote:
    absolute control over our lives. We must question the decisions imposed
    on us and always keep in mind the fundamental principles of our nation:
    freedom, democracy, and justice.

    And dead republicans.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Sat Feb 22 14:51:54 2025
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    On 2025-02-22, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
    pothead wrote:
    absolute control over our lives. We must question the decisions imposed
    on us and always keep in mind the fundamental principles of our nation:
    freedom, democracy, and justice.

    And dead republicans.

    For the record I did not write that.
    It was written by the OP.


    --
    pothead

    Why did Joe Biden pardon his family?
    Read below to learn the reason.
    The Biden Crime Family Timeline here: https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/

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  • From George Core@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 22 15:25:29 2025
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    pothead wrote:
    absolute control over our lives. We must question the decisions
    imposed
    on us and always keep in mind the fundamental principles of our
    nation:
    freedom, democracy, and justice.

    And dead republicans.


    Republicans' excess death rate spiked after COVID-19 vaccines arrived, a
    study says

    A new study finds a gap in excess deaths opened between Republicans and Democrats in 2021, after vaccine access was widened to all adults. Here,
    a Walgreens worker prepares vaccine shots for school staff in Dayton,
    Ohio, in February 2021.
    Megan Jelinger/AFP via Getty Images

    The pandemic inflicted higher rates of excess deaths on both Republicans
    and Democrats. But after COVID-19 vaccines arrived, Republican voters in Florida and Ohio died at a higher rate than their counterparts, according
    to a new study.

    Researchers from Yale University who studied the pandemic's effects on
    those two states say that from the pandemic's start in March 2020 through December 2021, "excess mortality was significantly higher for Republican
    voters than Democratic voters after COVID-19 vaccines were available to
    all adults, but not before."

    More specifically, the researchers say, their adjusted analysis found
    that "the excess death rate among Republican voters was 43% higher than
    the excess death rate among Democratic voters" after vaccine eligibility
    was opened.

    The different rates "were concentrated in counties with lower vaccination rates, and primarily noted in voters residing in Ohio," according to the
    study that was published in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine on Monday.

    It's the latest research to suggest the perils of mixing partisan
    politics with medical advice and health policy.
    How was the study performed?

    Researchers analyzed data related to 538,159 people who died between Jan.
    1, 2018, and Dec. 31, 2021, at ages 25 and over, compiling their
    political party affiliations based on records from 2017.

    The study collected weekly death counts, breaking down the deceased's
    party ties along with their county and age cohort. It used May 1, 2021,
    as a key dividing line because the date marks a month after all U.S.
    adults became eligible to receive shots of the COVID-19 vaccines.

    The researchers estimated excess mortality based on how the overall rate
    of deaths during the pandemic compared to what would have been expected
    from historical, pre-pandemic trends.
    Researchers saw a divide suddenly emerge

    As they calculated excess death rate data for Florida and Ohio, the
    researchers found only small differences between Republican and
    Democratic voters in the first year of the pandemic, with both groups
    suffering similarly sharp rises in excess deaths that winter.

    Things changed as the summer of 2021 approached. When coronavirus vaccine access widened, so did the excess death gap. In the researchers' adjusted analysis of the period after April 1, 2021, they calculated Democratic
    voters' excess death rate at 18.1, and Republicans' at 25.8 — a 7.7 percentage-point difference equating to a 43% gap.

    After the gap was established in the summer of 2021, it widened further
    in the fall, according to the study's authors.
    The study doesn't provide all the answers

    The researchers note that their study has several limitations, including
    the chance that political party affiliation "is a proxy for other risk factors," such as income, health insurance status and chronic medical conditions, along with race and ethnicity.

    The study focused only on registered Republicans and Democrats;
    independents were excluded. And because the researchers drilled into data
    in Florida and Ohio, they warn that their findings might not translate to
    other states.

    The researchers' data also did not specify a cause of death, and it
    accounts for some 83.5% of U.S. deaths, rather than the entire number.
    And because data about the vaccination status of each of the 538,159
    people who died in the two states wasn't available, researchers could
    only go as granular as the county level in assessing excess deaths and vaccination rates.

    The study was funded by the Tobin Center for Economic Policy at Yale
    University and the Yale School of Public Health COVID-19 Rapid Response Research Fund.
    New findings join other reviews of politics and the pandemic

    In late 2021, an NPR analysis found that after May of that year — a
    timeframe that overlaps the vaccine availability cited in the new study — people in counties that voted strongly for Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential election were "nearly three times as likely to die from
    COVID-19" as people in pro-Biden counties.

    "An unvaccinated person is three times as likely to lean Republican as
    they are to lean Democrat," as Liz Hamel, vice president of public
    opinion and survey research at the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation,
    told NPR.

    Even before vaccines were widely accessible, researchers were working to quantify the effects of vastly divergent COVID-19 policies across U.S.
    states.

    A widely cited study from early 2021 found that in the early months of
    the pandemic's official start date in March 2020, states with Republican governors saw lower COVID-19 case numbers and death rates than
    Democratic-led states. But the trend reversed around the middle of 2020,
    as Republican governors were less likely to institute controls such as stay-at-home orders and face mask requirements.

    "Future policy decisions should be guided by public health considerations rather than by political ideology," said the authors of that study, which
    was selected as the article of the year by the American Journal of
    Preventive Medicine.

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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to George Core on Sat Feb 22 15:32:25 2025
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    George Core wrote:

    (snip)

    Is that your real name? Awesome, if so.

    "I'm George Core, man!"

    Follow-ups are lame, though.

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    Hadron Quark

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  • From P. Coonan@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 23 00:52:41 2025
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    On 21 Feb 2025, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> posted some news:vpb4fv$3kime$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-02-21, John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
    'We were told to trust Fauci's bureaucrat, who ruled our lives but
    got everything wrong'

    <https://gatewayhispanic.com/video/we-were-told-to-trust-faucis-bureauc >>rat-who-ruled-our-lives-but-got-everything-wrong/>

    'For the past few years, we've been bombarded with messages from the
    government and its health experts, but none stood out more than Dr.
    Anthony Fauci. We were told to blindly trust this bureaucrat, the
    "smartest" of all, who was making decisions to protect our lives amid
    a global pandemic. However, now that the facts have come to light,
    it's impossible to ignore what really happened. The irony is
    undeniable: everything they told us turned out to be false.

    One of the main points of friction with Fauci's statements was the
    virus's origin. For a long time, we were told that COVID-19 did not
    come from a laboratory, that it was completely natural. Now, multiple
    agencies have confirmed what many suspected from the beginning: the
    virus could have escaped from a lab in Wuhan. Dr. Fauci, along with
    other health bureaucrats, insisted that this issue could not be
    questioned, but today we know the truth was different. This is just
    one of the many false claims made during the crisis.

    Fauci also told us that vaccinated people would not contract or
    transmit the virus. Again, he was wrong. As the pandemic progressed,
    thousands of fully vaccinated people contracted COVID-19, and many
    transmitted it to others. The promise that vaccines would be a
    definitive solution to the pandemic crumbled as reality hit us with
    new outbreaks and variants. Yet, despite the data showing otherwise,
    the official narrative did not change, and Fauci continued to defend
    his position.

    ADVERTISEMENT
    Another controversial point was the use of masks and social
    distancing restrictions. We were told that masks were essential to
    prevent the spread of the virus and that the six-foot distance was
    based on science. However, over time, doubts arose about the
    effectiveness of masks and the real scientific basis behind the
    distancing measures. Many experts began to question whether these
    policies were really necessary or if they were being implemented more
    for political reasons than public health.

    The final blow, however, was the denial of natural immunity. Fauci
    and other experts told us we could not trust immunity acquired
    through natural infection. This claim contradicted scientific studies
    showing that natural immunity could be even more durable than
    vaccine-induced immunity in some cases. Despite this, Dr. Fauci and
    other public officials continued to defend their policies without
    considering this evidence.

    The most troubling part was the imposition of a bureaucratic system
    that tried to control not only our lives but also what we were
    allowed to say. During the pandemic, there was a real attempt to
    create a Disinformation Governance Board, a group of federal
    bureaucrats that would decide what was "correct" information and what
    wasn't. This proposal, which could have censored any opinion or data
    contrary to the official narrative, reminded us that bureaucracy
    often acts as if it is above the constitution and individual rights.

    This attempt to control discourse and information only underscores
    the importance of trusting the democratic system. After all, the
    executive power was created by the Constitution to be vested in a
    president elected by the people, not in unelected bureaucrats who
    think they are smarter than ordinary citizens. It was the will of 77
    million Americans that elected the president, not a bureaucracy that
    answers to no one. The people, through their vote, have the final
    say, not unelected officials who try to impose their worldview.


    It's time to remember that democracy lies in the hands of the people
    and that bureaucrats, although often well-intentioned, should not
    have absolute control over our lives. We must question the decisions
    imposed on us and always keep in mind the fundamental principles of
    our nation: freedom, democracy, and justice.

    Follow the money and the truth about midget Fauci will be revealed.

    Didn't we do that already a couple times?

    https://www.congress.gov/117/meeting/house/114270/documents/HHRG-117-GO24- 20211201-SD004.pdf

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