• Re: 24H2

    From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Joel on Sat Feb 22 19:30:03 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 04:04 this Saturday (GMT):
    Ammammata <ammammata@tiscali.it> wrote:
    Paul explained on 06/02/2025 :

    https://www.grc.com/incontrol.htm

    Set it to "11" "23H2" and click the application button,
    and that will prevent going past 23H2. I'm using that
    right now on my Daily Driver.

    did it, now I keep fingers crossed
    Thank You


    Paul is a wonderful soul. You seem very cool, too. For the records.

    But I can't help but snark, here, that the solution is to revert to
    23H2, because you said: "windows updated to 24h2 without my
    permission". M$ is worse than I'd even have thought, in your
    instance. If that's the trend - Linux is a more reliable platform.


    Forced/Begging for updates has been a thing since the 8.1 days.. I
    remember all the ads and popups begging you to upgrade to W10, and that
    it was a "limited time oppritunity" and such. Of course, it's so much
    worse today.
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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to Joel on Sun Feb 23 04:35:37 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 14:48:07 -0500, Joel wrote:

    Admittedly, though, they didn't lie about 10 being the last real version ever. Because a (previously upgraded) 7 key will install 11 on cutting
    edge hardware or a VM.

    When I was on the Insiders channel they pushed out a 'Windows Next'
    update. It wouldn't install and they quickly reverted it. That was over a
    year ago and I haven't heard any more about a 'next' or 12.

    I think they're too busy chasing the AI unicorn through the fields of
    clover at the moment.

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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to rbowman on Sun Feb 23 10:18:28 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    rbowman wrote:

    Joel wrote:

    Admittedly, though, they didn't lie about 10 being the last real version
    ever. Because a (previously upgraded) 7 key will install 11 on cutting
    edge hardware or a VM.

    When I was on the Insiders channel they pushed out a 'Windows Next'
    update. It wouldn't install and they quickly reverted it. That was over a >year ago and I haven't heard any more about a 'next' or 12.

    I think they're too busy chasing the AI unicorn through the fields of
    clover at the moment.

    Well, what's better than to have an "AI" spy on their customers? It
    must feel like they've died and gone to heaven.

    --
    How long has Linux been around?
    About 15 years?
    And Linux is free?
    Linux must be defective.

    - flathead

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to rbowman on Mon Feb 24 22:30:03 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 04:35 this Sunday (GMT):
    On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 14:48:07 -0500, Joel wrote:

    Admittedly, though, they didn't lie about 10 being the last real version
    ever. Because a (previously upgraded) 7 key will install 11 on cutting
    edge hardware or a VM.

    When I was on the Insiders channel they pushed out a 'Windows Next'
    update. It wouldn't install and they quickly reverted it. That was over a year ago and I haven't heard any more about a 'next' or 12.

    I think they're too busy chasing the AI unicorn through the fields of
    clover at the moment.


    I honestly wouldn't be too suprised if MS started making Windows itself
    a subsciption that got continuously updated.
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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 24 18:58:33 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Mon, 2/24/2025 5:30 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 04:35 this Sunday (GMT):
    On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 14:48:07 -0500, Joel wrote:

    Admittedly, though, they didn't lie about 10 being the last real version >>> ever. Because a (previously upgraded) 7 key will install 11 on cutting
    edge hardware or a VM.

    When I was on the Insiders channel they pushed out a 'Windows Next'
    update. It wouldn't install and they quickly reverted it. That was over a
    year ago and I haven't heard any more about a 'next' or 12.

    I think they're too busy chasing the AI unicorn through the fields of
    clover at the moment.


    I honestly wouldn't be too suprised if MS started making Windows itself
    a subsciption that got continuously updated.


    Back in 2015, WaaS was posited as the endpoint for the ecosystem.

    It is now 2025, and we're still floating that balloon ?

    How long does it take to do frog boiling (a critter that does
    not escape a boiling pot if the temperature is raised gradually,
    instead it croaks rather than hop out) ? Let's find out.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog

    Maybe they've figured out that the pot would be empty if they did that. Although it's true that some people will pay for almost anything
    shoved through their letterbox.

    *******

    And you don't install just any old key on a VM. Microsoft Tech Support
    do not support maintenance issues for VM-linked keys. There is a
    specific product you're supposed to be buying, if wishing to
    license the OS while it runs in a VM. You can't just take the
    license key off the back of a cereal box and enter that -- the
    reason is, if the key is "lost", the Tech Support person
    will give their rendition of "tough Beanz". They won't do a
    thing for you. With the correct key (no idea what Enterprise
    product that would be), then you will get a better response from
    them. Someone here lost a key in a VM already, and they recount the
    response they got when trying to restore it. It's sufficient to
    modify some identifier used in the VM to upset the activation
    of the key -- making a VM "more brittle" than bricks&mortar
    real computers with their NIC MAC address and other hardware
    details.

    An example of a key, would be a "Retail SKU" where the price is
    double the normal OEM key, but you get the right to "move" the
    license from one machine to another. Such a key could be put
    on a VM where the identifier got modified by accident or
    abuse. The key when re-applied to the VM, would
    "look like it was being moved". Whereas the more normal OEM
    keys floating around, are unlikely to have that property (can't
    be moved).

    Paul

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