Another new PC for me!
From
chrisv@21:1/5 to
All on Tue Feb 25 20:32:30 2025
XPost: alt.checkmate, talk.politics.guns, comp.os.linux.misc
Some of you may recall that I built a new Alder Lake machine in the
Summer of 2023, to replace my Ivy Bridge (Intel 3rd gen) quad-core i5.
I've now replaced my other PC, a Skylake (Intel 6th gen) quad-core
Xeon. Below I compare the new components to the 2023 build, and the
reasons for my choices.
CPU: Intel Raptor Lake i5-14600k (Alder Lake i5-12400) In 2023 a
Raptor Lake i5 was a $300 chip, which I felt was too much for my
needs. Now it's a $200 chip, so I decided to step up, even though I
remain skeptical of the need for so many (6P + 8E) CPU cores. The
larger L2 cache of Raptor Lake, combined with higher clock speeds,
gives the 14600k around 25% better performance than the 12400, and
that's in benchmarks that do _not_ benefit from having a zillion
cores. It costs twice as much the 12400, but increases the total
system cost by only 10%. And, who knows, maybe some day I will do
something that will utilize all the cores.
Motherboard: Asus TUF Gaming B760M-Plus WiFi II (MSI B760M Mag Mortar
WiFi) Both are good-quality B760-based microATX boards. The MSI
board has been working fine, but I thought I'd the Asus a try. I
perceive it as being a bit of an upgrade over the MSI. I have no need
for the extras that a Z790 board offers.
RAM: G Skill 48GB DDR5-6400 (G Skill 32GB DDR5-5600) I think that 32G
is way plenty, and will be for a long time. But in the spirit of this
PC being a performance upgrade and more future-proof, I decided to
endow it with more RAM. I thought about 64G, but that just seemed
ridiculous, for what I do. The 48G compromise seemed kind of fun and different. The speed boost to 6400 MHz was done in the same spirit of custom-built fun, and because Raptor Lake does officially support
faster RAM.
SSD: Kingston KC3000 2TB PCIe 4 M.2 (same) Plenty good. I see no
need for PCIe 5, here.
PSU: Seasonic Vertex 750W 80+ gold (Seasonic Focus 650W 80+ Gold)
Small steps up in quality and performance, for the new PC.
CPU cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO (Deepcool AK620)
Both are large dual-tower, dual fan coolers. I might have bought the
Deepcool again, but they got into some kind of legal trouble and are
no longer available. The reviews that I read of the Thermalright said
that it was one of the best air coolers available, and it's reasonably
priced.
Case: Asus Prime AP201 microATX mini-tower (same) Has the jacks that
I want, where I want them, and no silly glass panel.
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1080Ti (GTX 1070) Both are far from state of the
art, but suffice for the occasional screwing-around with older games,
that I do.
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From
Butch Maddow@21:1/5 to
All on Tue Feb 25 21:09:41 2025
XPost: alt.checkmate, talk.politics.guns, comp.os.linux.misc
Once upon a time, on or about Tue, 25 Feb 2025 20:32:30 -0600, chrisv
allegedly stated the following, and is solely responsible for its
content:
MAGA!
MAGA!Some of you may recall that I built a new Alder Lake machine in the MAGA!Summer of 2023, to replace my Ivy Bridge (Intel 3rd gen) quad-core i5. MAGA!I've now replaced my other PC, a Skylake (Intel 6th gen) quad-core MAGA!Xeon. Below I compare the new components to the 2023 build, and the MAGA!reasons for my choices.
MAGA!
MAGA!CPU: Intel Raptor Lake i5-14600k (Alder Lake i5-12400) In 2023 a MAGA!Raptor Lake i5 was a $300 chip, which I felt was too much for my MAGA!needs. Now it's a $200 chip, so I decided to step up, even though I MAGA!remain skeptical of the need for so many (6P + 8E) CPU cores. The MAGA!larger L2 cache of Raptor Lake, combined with higher clock speeds, MAGA!gives the 14600k around 25% better performance than the 12400, and MAGA!that's in benchmarks that do _not_ benefit from having a zillion MAGA!cores. It costs twice as much the 12400, but increases the total MAGA!system cost by only 10%. And, who knows, maybe some day I will do MAGA!something that will utilize all the cores.
MAGA!
MAGA!Motherboard: Asus TUF Gaming B760M-Plus WiFi II (MSI B760M Mag Mortar MAGA!WiFi) Both are good-quality B760-based microATX boards. The MSI MAGA!board has been working fine, but I thought I'd the Asus a try. I MAGA!perceive it as being a bit of an upgrade over the MSI. I have no need MAGA!for the extras that a Z790 board offers.
MAGA!
MAGA!RAM: G Skill 48GB DDR5-6400 (G Skill 32GB DDR5-5600) I think that 32G MAGA!is way plenty, and will be for a long time. But in the spirit of this MAGA!PC being a performance upgrade and more future-proof, I decided to MAGA!endow it with more RAM. I thought about 64G, but that just seemed MAGA!ridiculous, for what I do. The 48G compromise seemed kind of fun and MAGA!different. The speed boost to 6400 MHz was done in the same spirit of MAGA!custom-built fun, and because Raptor Lake does officially support MAGA!faster RAM.
MAGA!
MAGA!SSD: Kingston KC3000 2TB PCIe 4 M.2 (same) Plenty good. I see no MAGA!need for PCIe 5, here.
MAGA!
MAGA!PSU: Seasonic Vertex 750W 80+ gold (Seasonic Focus 650W 80+ Gold) MAGA!Small steps up in quality and performance, for the new PC.
MAGA!
MAGA!CPU cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO (Deepcool AK620) MAGA!Both are large dual-tower, dual fan coolers. I might have bought the MAGA!Deepcool again, but they got into some kind of legal trouble and are MAGA!no longer available. The reviews that I read of the Thermalright said MAGA!that it was one of the best air coolers available, and it's reasonably MAGA!priced.
MAGA!
MAGA!Case: Asus Prime AP201 microATX mini-tower (same) Has the jacks that MAGA!I want, where I want them, and no silly glass panel.
MAGA!
MAGA!GPU: Nvidia GTX 1080Ti (GTX 1070) Both are far from state of the MAGA!art, but suffice for the occasional screwing-around with older games, MAGA!that I do.
What's the lift and duration on your cams? I assume you're using
roller rockers...
--
~b00f!
"Keep defending it. It'll make it SO EASY for the rest of us
grappling with our conscience to know that what we're about to
do to you Nazi fucks is worth going against everything we believe
in."
Robert Wolfe and his imaginary friends have a plan to go against
"everything they believe in" because "Nazi fucks" are defending
"Roman salutes". 2-21-25 via Giganews
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From
c186282@21:1/5 to
chrisv on Wed Feb 26 00:36:18 2025
XPost: comp.os.linux.misc
On 2/25/25 9:32 PM, chrisv wrote:
Some of you may recall that I built a new Alder Lake machine in the
Summer of 2023, to replace my Ivy Bridge (Intel 3rd gen) quad-core i5.
I've now replaced my other PC, a Skylake (Intel 6th gen) quad-core
Xeon. Below I compare the new components to the 2023 build, and the
reasons for my choices.
CPU: Intel Raptor Lake i5-14600k (Alder Lake i5-12400) In 2023 a
Raptor Lake i5 was a $300 chip, which I felt was too much for my
needs. Now it's a $200 chip, so I decided to step up, even though I
remain skeptical of the need for so many (6P + 8E) CPU cores. The
larger L2 cache of Raptor Lake, combined with higher clock speeds,
gives the 14600k around 25% better performance than the 12400, and
that's in benchmarks that do _not_ benefit from having a zillion
cores. It costs twice as much the 12400, but increases the total
system cost by only 10%. And, who knows, maybe some day I will do
something that will utilize all the cores.
Motherboard: Asus TUF Gaming B760M-Plus WiFi II (MSI B760M Mag Mortar
WiFi) Both are good-quality B760-based microATX boards. The MSI
board has been working fine, but I thought I'd the Asus a try. I
perceive it as being a bit of an upgrade over the MSI. I have no need
for the extras that a Z790 board offers.
RAM: G Skill 48GB DDR5-6400 (G Skill 32GB DDR5-5600) I think that 32G
is way plenty, and will be for a long time. But in the spirit of this
PC being a performance upgrade and more future-proof, I decided to
endow it with more RAM. I thought about 64G, but that just seemed ridiculous, for what I do. The 48G compromise seemed kind of fun and different. The speed boost to 6400 MHz was done in the same spirit of custom-built fun, and because Raptor Lake does officially support
faster RAM.
SSD: Kingston KC3000 2TB PCIe 4 M.2 (same) Plenty good. I see no
need for PCIe 5, here.
PSU: Seasonic Vertex 750W 80+ gold (Seasonic Focus 650W 80+ Gold)
Small steps up in quality and performance, for the new PC.
CPU cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO (Deepcool AK620)
Both are large dual-tower, dual fan coolers. I might have bought the Deepcool again, but they got into some kind of legal trouble and are
no longer available. The reviews that I read of the Thermalright said
that it was one of the best air coolers available, and it's reasonably priced.
Case: Asus Prime AP201 microATX mini-tower (same) Has the jacks that
I want, where I want them, and no silly glass panel.
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1080Ti (GTX 1070) Both are far from state of the
art, but suffice for the occasional screwing-around with older games,
that I do.
The ASUS TUF boards are always a good way to
start - very good. ALWAYS built with those
before I retired - even my new home tower.
DO suggest Samsung SSDs/M2s over all others.
Kingston mem ... perfectly good. There are
competitors but they're not REALLY any
better.
Start with a great motherboard and everything
else falls into place.
Ummmmm ... why did you include a 'guns' group
in the headers ??? Planning an armed take-over
of Kingston ??? :-)
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