Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He >>>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very >>>> realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially >>>> Nazi idiots.
That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point. This could indeed be
WWIII. Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's
get off that track. With DJT as president, and me working with him
and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
finally lay off.
Threat of WWIII is not from Ukraine. It is from Trump and the Nazi
people who put that NY thug in that office.
If WWIII starts, it would be something that must come and pass. Nazis
are tolerated only so much. After that, the world will come for your
overgrown asses!
The point is that Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
war.
Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
Nazi idiots.
That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.
This could indeed be WWIII.
Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's
get off that track. With DJT as president, and me working with him
and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
finally lay off.
On 3/1/25 2:48 PM, Joel wrote:
Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He >>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially >>> Nazi idiots.
That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point. This could indeed be
WWIII. Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's
get off that track. With DJT as president, and me working with him
and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
finally lay off.
Threat of WWIII is not from Ukraine. It is from Trump and the Nazi
people who put that NY thug in that office.
If WWIII starts, it would be something that must come and pass. Nazis
are tolerated only so much. After that, the world will come for your overgrown asses!
W dniu 01.03.2025 o 22:04, Joel pisze:
Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He >>>>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very >>>>> realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially >>>>> Nazi idiots.
That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point. This could indeed be
WWIII. Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's >>>> get off that track. With DJT as president, and me working with him
and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
finally lay off.
Threat of WWIII is not from Ukraine. It is from Trump and the Nazi
people who put that NY thug in that office.
If WWIII starts, it would be something that must come and pass. Nazis
are tolerated only so much. After that, the world will come for your
overgrown asses!
The point is that Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
war.
Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
made one too, BTW.
Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
war.
Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
made one too, BTW.
It's not a game. Putin has an argument, a beef as we'd say on the
street.
With DJT as president, and me working with him
and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
finally lay off.
On 3/1/25 2:48 PM, Joel wrote:
Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He >>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially >>> Nazi idiots.
That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point. This could indeed be
WWIII. Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's
get off that track. With DJT as president, and me working with him
and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
finally lay off.
Threat of WWIII is not from Ukraine. It is from Trump and the Nazi
people who put that NY thug in that office.
If WWIII starts, it would be something that must come and pass. Nazis
are tolerated only so much. After that, the world will come for your overgrown asses!
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 3/1/25 15:48, Joel wrote:
Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He >>>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very >>>> realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially >>>> Nazi idiots.
That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.
Not really. This was a shakedown attempt by Trump.
No, my friend, take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
a chance to solve this.
Am Samstag000001, 01.03.2025 um 21:52 schrieb Physfitfreak:
On 3/1/25 2:48 PM, Joel wrote:
Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He >>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very >>> realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially >>> Nazi idiots.
That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point. This could indeed be
WWIII. Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's
get off that track. With DJT as president, and me working with him
and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
finally lay off.
Threat of WWIII is not from Ukraine. It is from Trump and the Nazi
people who put that NY thug in that office.
If WWIII starts, it would be something that must come and pass. Nazis
are tolerated only so much. After that, the world will come for your overgrown asses!
Before WWIII there was something commonly called WWII.
Now the overall features of the plot of the Ukraine conflict have similarities to WWII and the fate of Germany.
Germans had actually believed, they were supported by the USA and the
UK, because there was generous support from Wall Street and the tycoons
of that era.
Also the British king and some parts of the British elite were
supporters of the Nazis.
So, the German took money, weapons and used uniforms and went into war
with Russia (known as 'Soviet Union' at that time).
BUT: the western 'allies' changed their mind and supported Russia later
and bombed their alleged 'friend' into oblivion, while delivering
weapons, money and other supply (including strange items like 'spam') in
huge amounts to Russia.
Something like that seems a likely scenario for the Ukraine, too.
But such a repetition of a successful plot is really stupid, because
people are sometimes stupid, but not all the time.
It is actually dangerous to repeat plots of big scale, because the
repetition would endanger the gain of the first occurrence of the same plot.
Now poor Mr Szelinsky got kicked out of the White house and does not understand things anymore, even if that is not at all difficult.
It's all about money, which is not really Ukrainian money in this case,
but European.
From the Ukraine they 'only' want their natural resources (all of them, please).
TH
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 3/1/25 19:11, Joel wrote:
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 3/1/25 15:48, Joel wrote:
Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He >>>>>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very >>>>>> realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially >>>>>> Nazi idiots.
That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.
Not really. This was a shakedown attempt by Trump.
No, my friend, take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
a chance to solve this.
But why should I take your word for any of this?
Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.
We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line. Ukraine bravely
fought it for us but it hasn't worked. We have to satisfy Putin, fair
as it may not seem.
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
a chance to solve this.
But why should I take your word for any of this?
Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.
We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line. Ukraine bravely
fought it for us but it hasn't worked. We have to satisfy Putin, fair
as it may not seem.
No, we've not lost the war with Russia. We've barely tried, and we've
been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to
Ukraine. If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give
back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes. Pragmatically, the peace
bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.
You're wanting World War III to happen, then? Because that's what
you're implying with that logic.
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
a chance to solve this.
But why should I take your word for any of this?
Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.
We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line. Ukraine bravely
fought it for us but it hasn't worked. We have to satisfy Putin, fair
as it may not seem.
No, we've not lost the war with Russia. We've barely tried, and we've
been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to
Ukraine. If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give
back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes. Pragmatically, the peace
bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.
You're wanting World War III to happen, then? Because that's what
you're implying with that logic.
W dniu 01.03.2025 o 23:15, Joel pisze:
Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
war.
Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
made one too, BTW.
It's not a game. Putin has an argument, a beef as we'd say on the
street.
You mean - he has some power. Sure - do
what a bandit wants, a bandit has some
power.
On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 6:39:45 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
W dniu 01.03.2025 o 23:15, Joel pisze:
Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
war.
Good idea.
Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
made one too, BTW.
Hitler did not start the war. UK and France did that expecting to crush Germany but that did not work.
It's not a game. Putin has an argument, a beef as we'd say on the
street.
Yes. Putin is a great Russian patriot working hard for Russia.
You mean - he has some power. Sure - do
what a bandit wants, a bandit has some
power.
No, he has nearly 90% support from Russians so he is a super-democrat.
W dniu 02.03.2025 o 22:14, Joel pisze:
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
a chance to solve this.
But why should I take your word for any of this?
Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.
We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line. Ukraine bravely
fought it for us but it hasn't worked. We have to satisfy Putin, fair >>> as it may not seem.
No, we've not lost the war with Russia. We've barely tried, and we've
been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to >> Ukraine. If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give
back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes. Pragmatically, the peace
bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.
You're wanting World War III to happen, then? Because that's what
you're implying with that logic.
If that piece of shit wanted Alaska - would you
give it for the purpose of avoiding the war?
How about California?
bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) wrote in news:92a353feaea2695190e2f3c563314720@www.novabbs.com:
On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 6:39:45 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
W dniu 01.03.2025 o 23:15, Joel pisze:
Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
war.
Good idea.
Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
made one too, BTW.
Hitler did not start the war. UK and France did that expecting to crush
Germany but that did not work.
It's not a game. Putin has an argument, a beef as we'd say on the
street.
Yes. Putin is a great Russian patriot working hard for Russia.
You mean - he has some power. Sure - do
what a bandit wants, a bandit has some
power.
No, he has nearly 90% support from Russians so he is a super-democrat.
The World still believes in growth by manipulation. God told us what to
do. We haven't listened yet.
On 3/2/2025 3:17 PM, Bertietaylor wrote:
On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 22:55:48 +0000, David LaRue wrote:
bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) wrote in
news:92a353feaea2695190e2f3c563314720@www.novabbs.com:
On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 6:39:45 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
W dniu 01.03.2025 o 23:15, Joel pisze:
Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
war.
Good idea.
Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
made one too, BTW.
Hitler did not start the war. UK and France did that expecting to crush >>>> Germany but that did not work.
It's not a game. Putin has an argument, a beef as we'd say on the >>>>>> street.
Yes. Putin is a great Russian patriot working hard for Russia.
You mean - he has some power. Sure - do
what a bandit wants, a bandit has some
power.
No, he has nearly 90% support from Russians so he is a super-democrat.
The World still believes in growth by manipulation. God told us what to >>> do. We haven't listened yet.
Can't expect arrogant atheists to believe in anything Divine.
I think it might be akin to not thinking about any sort of "punishment"
in the afterlife, if at all? So, they say who gives a crap!
Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
W dniu 02.03.2025 o 22:14, Joel pisze:
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
You're wanting World War III to happen, then? Because that's whatWe've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line. Ukraine bravely >>>>> fought it for us but it hasn't worked. We have to satisfy Putin, fair >>>>> as it may not seem.take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
a chance to solve this.
But why should I take your word for any of this?
Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying. >>>>>
No, we've not lost the war with Russia. We've barely tried, and we've >>>> been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to >>>> Ukraine. If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give >>>> back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes. Pragmatically, the peace
bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked. >>>
you're implying with that logic.
If that piece of shit wanted Alaska - would you
give it for the purpose of avoiding the war?
How about California?
We have thanks to the election a way to satisfy Putin without giving
up anything.
Now poor Mr Szelinsky got kicked out of the White house and does not
understand things anymore, even if that is not at all difficult.
It's all about money, which is not really Ukrainian money in this case,
but European.
From the Ukraine they 'only' want their natural resources (all of them,
please).
TH
"'only' want their natural resources", then they should KILL for it.
For example...
you got a tribe of chipanzees living in a area that has no bananas, and
they see another
tribe of chipanzees living in a area that has lots of bananas...THEY
HAVE TO KILL FOR IT!!!!
dats is how it is done.
stab the chimpanzees with a pencil!
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On 2025-03-01, Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
W dniu 01.03.2025 o 22:04, Joel pisze:
Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
- I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He >>>>>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very >>>>>> realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially >>>>>> Nazi idiots.
That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point. This could indeed be
WWIII. Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's >>>>> get off that track. With DJT as president, and me working with him
and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will >>>>> finally lay off.
Threat of WWIII is not from Ukraine. It is from Trump and the Nazi
people who put that NY thug in that office.
If WWIII starts, it would be something that must come and pass. Nazis
are tolerated only so much. After that, the world will come for your
overgrown asses!
The point is that Trump and myself et al will stop it being a world
war.
Making agreements with Hitler didn't prevent
WWII, making agreements with Putin is not
a way to prevent WWIII. Mr Prigozhin has
made one too, BTW.
If anyone is starting wars, its us, who think that every two-bit dicator
is "the next Hitler".
This fear has been crippling us, and leading us into pointless
destruction for too long. Putin is Putin. Hitler was Hitler.
Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
W dniu 03.03.2025 o 01:56, Joel pisze:
Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
W dniu 02.03.2025 o 22:14, Joel pisze:
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
You're wanting World War III to happen, then? Because that's whatWe've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line. Ukraine bravely >>>>>>> fought it for us but it hasn't worked. We have to satisfy Putin, fair >>>>>>> as it may not seem.
No, we've not lost the war with Russia. We've barely tried, and we've >>>>>> been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to >>>>>> Ukraine. If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give >>>>>> back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes. Pragmatically, the peace >>>>>> bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked. >>>>>
you're implying with that logic.
If that piece of shit wanted Alaska - would you
give it for the purpose of avoiding the war?
How about California?
We have thanks to the election a way to satisfy Putin without giving
up anything.
And you can even get your share in the plunder of
Ukraine; what a great leader.
Incorrect, I would undo any of that.
But we still need Trump, trust
me, I wouldn't say this for no reason.
Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
W dniu 03.03.2025 o 14:43, Joel pisze:
We have thanks to the election a way to satisfy Putin without giving >>>>> up anything.
And you can even get your share in the plunder of
Ukraine; what a great leader.
Incorrect, I would undo any of that.
No you wouldn't.
But we still need Trump, trust
me, I wouldn't say this for no reason.
Fuck him and fuck your reasons. You may
have elected him - your choice; I don't
have any respect for that choice - and
that's my choice.
I voted for H. Clinton, Biden and Harris, three times against DJT, but
now I'm saying he won the 2024 election.
W dniu 03.03.2025 o 14:43, Joel pisze:
Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
W dniu 03.03.2025 o 01:56, Joel pisze:
Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
W dniu 02.03.2025 o 22:14, Joel pisze:
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line. Ukraine bravely >>>>>>>> fought it for us but it hasn't worked. We have to satisfy Putin, fair >>>>>>>> as it may not seem.
No, we've not lost the war with Russia. We've barely tried, and we've >>>>>>> been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to
Ukraine. If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give >>>>>>> back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes. Pragmatically, the peace >>>>>>> bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.
You're wanting World War III to happen, then? Because that's what >>>>>> you're implying with that logic.
If that piece of shit wanted Alaska - would you
give it for the purpose of avoiding the war?
How about California?
We have thanks to the election a way to satisfy Putin without giving
up anything.
And you can even get your share in the plunder of
Ukraine; what a great leader.
Incorrect, I would undo any of that.
No you wouldn't.
But we still need Trump, trust
me, I wouldn't say this for no reason.
Fuck him and fuck your reasons. You may
have elected him - your choice; I don't
have any respect for that choice - and
that's my choice.
On 3/3/2025 2:51 PM, Bertietaylor wrote:
On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 14:53:48 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
W dniu 03.03.2025 o 14:43, Joel pisze:
Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
W dniu 03.03.2025 o 01:56, Joel pisze:
Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
W dniu 02.03.2025 o 22:14, Joel pisze:
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line. Ukraine >>>>>>>>>> bravely
fought it for us but it hasn't worked. We have to satisfy >>>>>>>>>> Putin, fair
as it may not seem.
No, we've not lost the war with Russia. We've barely tried, and >>>>>>>>> we've
been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we >>>>>>>>> made to
Ukraine. If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated >>>>>>>>> to give
back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes. Pragmatically, the peace >>>>>>>>> bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow
being nuked.
You're wanting World War III to happen, then? Because that's what >>>>>>>> you're implying with that logic.
If that piece of shit wanted Alaska - would you
give it for the purpose of avoiding the war?
How about California?
We have thanks to the election a way to satisfy Putin without giving >>>>>> up anything.
And you can even get your share in the plunder of
Ukraine; what a great leader.
Incorrect, I would undo any of that.
No you wouldn't.
But we still need Trump, trust
me, I wouldn't say this for no reason.
Fuck him and fuck your reasons. You may
have elected him - your choice; I don't
have any respect for that choice - and
that's my choice.
Unfortunately not voting for Trump meant voting for a puppet pulled by
unseen forces acting without responsibility.
What fools these apes be! They are screaming for WW3 as they screamed
for WW2 to happen.
Woof-woof woof woof woof woof woof-woof
It's as if some people want to go back the the good ol' days! It's a
Duck!
https://youtu.be/zrzMhU_4m-g
Yikes!
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