• Re: reinstall Windows 11 every two months

    From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to rbowman on Mon Mar 31 15:14:08 2025
    On 2025-03-31 14:23, rbowman wrote:
    https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/heres-why-you-should- reinstall-windows-11-every-two-months-no-im-not-kidding

    He's gotta be kidding...

    Ah, it looks like I was doing the right thing in switching to Linux
    every so often and going back to Windows. It ends up being every two
    months or so.

    Seriously though, that's a pretty good advertisement for Linux and a
    defense of its 6-month window for major distribution updates.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 31 18:23:39 2025
    https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/heres-why-you-should- reinstall-windows-11-every-two-months-no-im-not-kidding

    He's gotta be kidding...

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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to rbowman on Mon Mar 31 15:59:40 2025
    rbowman wrote:

    https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/heres-why-you-should-reinstall-windows-11-every-two-months-no-im-not-kidding

    He's gotta be kidding...

    He's nuts. Why not mention Windows "refresh" option, which restores
    to "like new" (removes apps and settings) but keeps personal files?
    None of the comments mentioned it, either.

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  • From Tyrone@21:1/5 to rbowman on Tue Apr 1 01:23:40 2025
    On Mar 31, 2025 at 2:23:39 PM EDT, "rbowman" <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

    https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/heres-why-you-should- reinstall-windows-11-every-two-months-no-im-not-kidding

    He's gotta be kidding...

    This guy sounds like a major idiot.

    If you need to reinstall every 2 months, you are doing incredibly stupid shit.


    I just recently upgraded a few Windows 8.1 era (2013 or so) tablets to Windows 10. They still ran 8.1 fine, but it was getting hard to find modern browsers for 8.1. Windows 10 runs fine on them.

    On my big, 17(?) year old desktop tower (it came with Vista!), I have Windows 7, 8.1 and 10. All still run fine. Never re-installed any of them over the years. I have loads of drive space in that box, so 7 and 8.1 are still there.
    It helped that I had an MSDN account where I worked. At one point I had Windows Server (2016 I think) and SQL Server installed on it too.

    I did clone Win 10 to a SSD, but that is it. I have put in a bigger power supply, added RAM, a newer video card and several hard drives over the years.
    It is basically a server at this point. But it was used very heavily during the Windows 7 and 8.1 years.

    So lots of hardware changes, but many versions of Windows were never a
    problem. Except Vista was a pig and was quickly replaced with 7.

    This guy is so far off in left field, he is WAY off the "tech radar".

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to Tyrone on Tue Apr 1 02:19:15 2025
    On Tue, 01 Apr 2025 01:23:40 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

    On Mar 31, 2025 at 2:23:39 PM EDT, "rbowman" <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

    https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/heres-why-you-should-
    reinstall-windows-11-every-two-months-no-im-not-kidding

    He's gotta be kidding...

    This guy sounds like a major idiot.

    If you need to reinstall every 2 months, you are doing incredibly stupid shit.

    That was my impression. I've never reinstalled Windows. TBH I've never installed it either. My builds never saw Windows. For boxes that came with Windows I used to dual boot, now I do a bare metal Linux install.
    Currently I have one laptop with Windows 11 and that's enough. iirc it
    came with 10 and I eventually upgraded to 11 and applied the 23H2 and 24H2 patches with no problems.

    Maybe he is a closet Linux recruiter?

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 1 08:44:50 2025
    On 2025-03-31 17:24, % wrote:
    chrisv wrote:
    rbowman wrote:

    https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/heres-why-you-should-
    reinstall-windows-11-every-two-months-no-im-not-kidding

    He's gotta be kidding...

    He's nuts.  Why not mention Windows "refresh" option, which restores
    to "like new" (removes apps and settings) but keeps personal files?
    None of the comments mentioned it, either.

    it's called , " factory reinstall " ,
    they also have , " system restore " ,
    which isn't so damaging

    You'd be surprised at how often it allows you to technically do a system refresh only to fail during the process. Things like system restore
    aren't enable by default, so you have to go in there and set it up
    before being able to use it. As for factory reinstall, it's only
    available if the image your system is using is the one provided by the manufacturer. A lot of us do fresh installations off an ISO, so that
    function isn't available either.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to RonB on Tue Apr 1 08:48:13 2025
    On 2025-04-01 02:00, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-03-31, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-03-31 14:23, rbowman wrote:
    https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/heres-why-you-should-
    reinstall-windows-11-every-two-months-no-im-not-kidding

    He's gotta be kidding...

    Ah, it looks like I was doing the right thing in switching to Linux
    every so often and going back to Windows. It ends up being every two
    months or so.

    Seriously though, that's a pretty good advertisement for Linux and a
    defense of its 6-month window for major distribution updates.

    I have an old Latitude D430 that started out (when I got it) at either Linux Mint 17 or 18 (can't remember which). This computer maxes out at 2GBs of
    RAM. Just to see how it would work, I updated it (step by step) to Linux
    Mint 22. And it did this successfully — it took forever, but I was still amazed that it would 1) Even work with the newest Linux Mint and 2) That it actually updated four or five full versions (two steps for each major point update).

    (The Latitude D430 was first released in 2007.)

    I only did a major upgrade once with Linux Mint and it was a total
    disaster on my dad's laptop. It technically worked once the process was
    done, but all the graphical elements were suddenly borked. I imagine
    that I could have fixed it if I really wanted to, but I wasn't willing
    to spend a whole day there to fix a computer that's used exclusively to
    post useless content on Facebook.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to rbowman on Tue Apr 1 09:49:09 2025
    rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/heres-why-you-should-reinstall-windows-11-every-two-months-no-im-not-kidding

    He's gotta be kidding...

    Look, I love Windows, I do, I really do. It's one of those things that I
    just can't live without at this point. I've tried MacOS, I've tried Linux,
    I've even dabbled in the world of Android and Chromebooks during my time,
    and yet, none of it compares to Windows; it just doesn't.

    (but) . . .

    See, registry files corrupt, file directories get mislabelled, and
    inevitably you'll end up with programs you forget about sitting in the
    background sucking up critical resources. It's just a bit crap like that,
    and ironically, although I do have a massive disdain towards macOS, I can't
    deny its closed-off ecosystem does avoid a lot of these pitfalls.

    Whenever anyone asks me about a system bug or help with troubleshooting, my
    first and often instant reaction is to suggest just flattening the machine
    entirely and reinstalling a fresh version of Windows on top.

    LMAO

    --
    A single flow'r he sent me, since we met.
    All tenderly his messenger he chose;
    Deep-hearted, pure, with scented dew still wet--
    One perfect rose. -- Dorothy Parker, "One Perfect Rose"

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 1 16:35:46 2025
    On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 09:49:09 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
    wrote in <vsgqsl$33n2q$10@dont-email.me>:

    rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/heres-why-you-should- reinstall-windows-11-every-two-months-no-im-not-kidding

    He's gotta be kidding...

    Look, I love Windows, I do, I really do. It's one of those things
    that I just can't live without at this point. I've tried MacOS, I've
    tried Linux, I've even dabbled in the world of Android and
    Chromebooks during my time, and yet, none of it compares to Windows;
    it just doesn't.

    (but) . . .

    See, registry files corrupt, file directories get mislabelled, and
    inevitably you'll end up with programs you forget about sitting in
    the background sucking up critical resources. It's just a bit crap
    like that, and ironically, although I do have a massive disdain
    towards macOS, I can't deny its closed-off ecosystem does avoid a
    lot of these pitfalls.

    Whenever anyone asks me about a system bug or help with
    troubleshooting, my first and often instant reaction is to suggest
    just flattening the machine entirely and reinstalling a fresh
    version of Windows on top.

    LMAO

    It's notable that he recommends having one's data on a separate
    drive (not just a separate partition), so you can blow away C:
    with impunity.

    Sounds a lot like a BCP for Linux, where /home is a separate partition...

    --
    -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
    OS: Linux 6.14.0 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
    "Only those who do nothing make no mistakes."

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Tue Apr 1 17:29:38 2025
    On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 08:48:13 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    I only did a major upgrade once with Linux Mint and it was a total
    disaster on my dad's laptop. It technically worked once the process was
    done, but all the graphical elements were suddenly borked. I imagine
    that I could have fixed it if I really wanted to, but I wasn't willing
    to spend a whole day there to fix a computer that's used exclusively to
    post useless content on Facebook.

    In my recent experience Ubuntu upgrades need hand holding while Fedora
    goes smoothly. Tomorrow is a test of the Fedora upgrade to 42 that I'll probably participate in. A few weeks ago I tested the 42 WSL install from
    a rpm.

    When OpenSUSE went to Leaf the recommendation was to do a fresh install
    since upgrades weren't going well. I never did and ran 13.2.

    Mt Debian box is still Bullseye since there were reports of problems with Bookworm.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to rbowman on Tue Apr 1 14:39:23 2025
    On 2025-04-01 13:22, rbowman wrote:
    On 1 Apr 2025 16:35:46 GMT, vallor wrote:

    It's notable that he recommends having one's data on a separate drive
    (not just a separate partition), so you can blow away C:
    with impunity.

    Sounds a lot like a BCP for Linux, where /home is a separate
    partition...

    IT traditionally build our Windows machines and installed Windows with a
    C:\ and D:\ drive. Drives weren't that large back then and they tended to skimp on C:\. Many Windows applications insist on putting some or all of their stuff on C:\ guaranteeing a problem down the line. Coupled with the builds were usually the cheapest components on NewEgg it was a lot of fun.


    I'm curious: what would the problem down the line be that's supposedly guaranteed? I'm not being facetious; I'm really wondering.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to rbowman on Tue Apr 1 14:40:40 2025
    On 2025-04-01 13:29, rbowman wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 08:48:13 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    I only did a major upgrade once with Linux Mint and it was a total
    disaster on my dad's laptop. It technically worked once the process was
    done, but all the graphical elements were suddenly borked. I imagine
    that I could have fixed it if I really wanted to, but I wasn't willing
    to spend a whole day there to fix a computer that's used exclusively to
    post useless content on Facebook.

    In my recent experience Ubuntu upgrades need hand holding while Fedora
    goes smoothly. Tomorrow is a test of the Fedora upgrade to 42 that I'll probably participate in. A few weeks ago I tested the 42 WSL install from
    a rpm.

    When OpenSUSE went to Leaf the recommendation was to do a fresh install
    since upgrades weren't going well. I never did and ran 13.2.

    Mt Debian box is still Bullseye since there were reports of problems with Bookworm.

    Upgrade problems are part of why I think Linux users are better off just
    using a rolling distribution. Both can produce problems, but most
    rolling distributions seem to have ironed out the potential problems
    users might face.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Tue Apr 1 22:34:59 2025
    On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 14:39:23 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    On 2025-04-01 13:22, rbowman wrote:
    On 1 Apr 2025 16:35:46 GMT, vallor wrote:

    It's notable that he recommends having one's data on a separate drive
    (not just a separate partition), so you can blow away C:
    with impunity.

    Sounds a lot like a BCP for Linux, where /home is a separate
    partition...

    IT traditionally build our Windows machines and installed Windows with
    a C:\ and D:\ drive. Drives weren't that large back then and they
    tended to skimp on C:\. Many Windows applications insist on putting
    some or all of their stuff on C:\ guaranteeing a problem down the line.
    Coupled with the builds were usually the cheapest components on NewEgg
    it was a lot of fun.


    I'm curious: what would the problem down the line be that's supposedly guaranteed? I'm not being facetious; I'm really wondering.

    If you start with a C:\ that's barely large enough to contain the OS and
    then install third party software you will run out of space on C:\.

    I can't remember the chain of events that triggered it, possibly a failed update, but even with a large C:\ I saw it was filling up rapidly and not
    from anything I was installing. It turned out that the culprit was the OS repeatedly logging that it was running out of room.

    It's fun going on an expedition to find stuff you can delete to make more
    room.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Tue Apr 1 22:49:08 2025
    On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 14:40:40 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    Upgrade problems are part of why I think Linux users are better off just using a rolling distribution. Both can produce problems, but most
    rolling distributions seem to have ironed out the potential problems
    users might face.

    The Fedora KDE spin technically isn't a rolling distribution but it has frequent updates so as long as you're current I don't think it's a huge
    step. Ubuntu is only slightly less conservative than Debian. For example
    the Fedora box is currently installing the 6.13.9 kernel and Ubuntu 24.10
    is 6.11.0. That has no practical difference for me as far as I can tell
    but other Ubuntu apps are similarly lagging.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to rbowman on Tue Apr 1 20:19:02 2025
    On 2025-04-01 6:34 p.m., rbowman wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 14:39:23 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    On 2025-04-01 13:22, rbowman wrote:
    On 1 Apr 2025 16:35:46 GMT, vallor wrote:

    It's notable that he recommends having one's data on a separate drive
    (not just a separate partition), so you can blow away C:
    with impunity.

    Sounds a lot like a BCP for Linux, where /home is a separate
    partition...

    IT traditionally build our Windows machines and installed Windows with
    a C:\ and D:\ drive. Drives weren't that large back then and they
    tended to skimp on C:\. Many Windows applications insist on putting
    some or all of their stuff on C:\ guaranteeing a problem down the line.
    Coupled with the builds were usually the cheapest components on NewEgg
    it was a lot of fun.


    I'm curious: what would the problem down the line be that's supposedly
    guaranteed? I'm not being facetious; I'm really wondering.

    If you start with a C:\ that's barely large enough to contain the OS and
    then install third party software you will run out of space on C:\.

    I can't remember the chain of events that triggered it, possibly a failed update, but even with a large C:\ I saw it was filling up rapidly and not from anything I was installing. It turned out that the culprit was the OS repeatedly logging that it was running out of room.

    It's fun going on an expedition to find stuff you can delete to make more room.

    Ah, I remember a girlfriend of mine back in 2005 having that problem
    with her 10GB drive. Because she was running out of space, the system
    kept crashing. I ended up buying her an 80GB to fix that for her.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Wed Apr 2 00:56:18 2025
    On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 20:19:02 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    Ah, I remember a girlfriend of mine back in 2005 having that problem
    with her 10GB drive. Because she was running out of space, the system
    kept crashing. I ended up buying her an 80GB to fix that for her.

    Those were the days... It was the holidays so there weren't too many
    people around when I had to load a client's 3GB DB2 database to
    troubleshoot it. Finding a RS6000/AIX machine with that much free space
    took a while.

    Another programmer with a similar problem deleted a directory to make
    space. It wasn't called /usr/bin but it was the AIX equivalent.

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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Wed Apr 2 07:25:49 2025
    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    Look, I love Windows, I do, I really do. It's one of those things that I
    just can't live without at this point. I've tried MacOS, I've tried Linux,
    I've even dabbled in the world of Android and Chromebooks during my time,
    and yet, none of it compares to Windows; it just doesn't.

    (but) . . .

    See, registry files corrupt, file directories get mislabelled, and
    inevitably you'll end up with programs you forget about sitting in the
    background sucking up critical resources. It's just a bit crap like that,
    and ironically, although I do have a massive disdain towards macOS, I can't
    deny its closed-off ecosystem does avoid a lot of these pitfalls.

    Whenever anyone asks me about a system bug or help with troubleshooting, my
    first and often instant reaction is to suggest just flattening the machine
    entirely and reinstalling a fresh version of Windows on top.

    LMAO

    It's one of those abusive relationships. An intervention is needed.

    --
    "But (cola advocates) *crucify* notable OSS developers/managers for
    not living up to their lofty OSS ideals." - trolling fsckwit
    "Ezekiel", lying shamelessly

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  • From Tyrone@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 2 12:57:15 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Apr 1, 2025 at 12:38:05 AM EDT, "Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Tue, 01 Apr 2025 01:23:40 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

    ... you are doing incredibly stupid shit.

    Isn’t that a redundant thing to say about Dimdows users? ;)

    No, but that is the kind of response I would expect from a Linsux user.

    See how easy that is? And childish? Neener neener.

    Is one's worth/adulthood/"manliness" really a function of what software one runs? Can one be a cheater/abandoning father/drug addict/generally a horrible person, but as long as YOU use whatever software I use then you are a "real man"?

    Seriously. It's 2025. Are we STILL obsessed with this shit? "I'm a Real Man because I run (whatever), you are a pussy because you run (something else)"
    was a Big Thing 30 years ago.

    Isn't it time to grow up?

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Tyrone on Wed Apr 2 13:27:13 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Wed, 02 Apr 2025 12:57:15 +0000, Tyrone wrote:


    No, but that is the kind of response I would expect from a [GNU/Linux] user.


    What's this? It seems the bot "Tyrone" again has emerged from his closet.

    why so long since his last visit?

    Perhaps his keeper neglected to charge his battery?

    Perhaps the encroachment of AI is threatening his domain?

    Whatever, it's again just more of the inane and ineffective
    same old same old.

    A dumb dog can learn, but a bot not so much.

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!


    --
    Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to vallor on Tue Apr 1 17:22:06 2025
    On 1 Apr 2025 16:35:46 GMT, vallor wrote:

    It's notable that he recommends having one's data on a separate drive
    (not just a separate partition), so you can blow away C:
    with impunity.

    Sounds a lot like a BCP for Linux, where /home is a separate
    partition...

    IT traditionally build our Windows machines and installed Windows with a
    C:\ and D:\ drive. Drives weren't that large back then and they tended to
    skimp on C:\. Many Windows applications insist on putting some or all of
    their stuff on C:\ guaranteeing a problem down the line. Coupled with the builds were usually the cheapest components on NewEgg it was a lot of fun.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Tyrone on Tue Apr 1 04:38:05 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Tue, 01 Apr 2025 01:23:40 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

    ... you are doing incredibly stupid shit.

    Isn’t that a redundant thing to say about Dimdows users? ;)

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Tyrone on Thu Apr 3 07:42:55 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Wed, 02 Apr 2025 12:57:15 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

    On Apr 1, 2025 at 12:38:05 AM EDT, "Lawrence D'Oliveiro"
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Tue, 01 Apr 2025 01:23:40 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

    ... you are doing incredibly stupid shit.

    Isn’t that a redundant thing to say about Dimdows users? ;)

    No, but that is the kind of response I would expect from a Linsux user.

    Let’s just say, it’s not Linux trying desperately to become more like Windows, it’s Microsoft desperately trying to make Windows more like
    Linux.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Thu Apr 3 05:31:10 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Thu, 4/3/2025 3:42 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    On Wed, 02 Apr 2025 12:57:15 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

    On Apr 1, 2025 at 12:38:05 AM EDT, "Lawrence D'Oliveiro"
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Tue, 01 Apr 2025 01:23:40 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

    ... you are doing incredibly stupid shit.

    Isn’t that a redundant thing to say about Dimdows users? ;)

    No, but that is the kind of response I would expect from a Linsux user.

    Let’s just say, it’s not Linux trying desperately to become more like Windows, it’s Microsoft desperately trying to make Windows more like
    Linux.


    Microsoft copies "features", it does not particularly care where
    they come from.

    The TaskBar today in Windows, has a feature that makes it descend below
    the bottom edge of the screen, yielding more screen space. Microsoft
    did not invent that, but the MacOS did at some point in the past
    (perhaps MacOSX 10.1 or so). Since that's optional, you won't see
    that happening on every user desktop here.

    Powershell has tab-completion. And that likely came from tcsh,
    Rather than claim Linux invented that, it would pay to read
    the Wiki first.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tcsh

    When my project at work, designed computers and an OS,
    we copied mercilessly from things before us. There were
    *complete* environments already in existence. It predated Linux.
    It would be silly to claim anything we did there was "totally original".

    All OSes are like that now, they copy things from elsewhere, until
    they're all the same. the only thing that prevents some OS projects
    from doing that, is a lack of manpower, not a lack of intent.

    And some OS projects were beautiful... and nobody copied those.
    That's why my screen looks like crap, in Windows. Won't someone
    copy a good way of rendering stuff ?

    Some things are "religious issues".

    For everything else, you copy, you copy mercilessly.

    Paul

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Paul on Thu Apr 3 12:04:06 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Thu, 03 Apr 2025 05:31:10 -0400, Paul wrote:


    All OSes are like that now, they copy things from elsewhere, until
    they're all the same. the only thing that prevents some OS projects
    from doing that, is a lack of manpower, not a lack of intent.


    You are conflating the OS with the GUI, and more specifically, the
    desktop environment (DE) which purposefully implements the desktop
    metaphor (DM):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_metaphor

    The DM, IMO, is a very silly idea, but it is the accepted norm in most
    GUIs with the exception of many GNU/Linux window managers (which are not
    DEs).

    I am, however, surprised that Micro$oft, in its eternal quest to appease
    its idiot user base, has not implemented such features in its DE as
    an "erasure" or "white out."

    Every office worker knows about the erasure and white out. Imagine picking
    up an "erasure" and dragging it into an M$ Word document in order to remove,
    or erase, some text. What could be more natural?

    We see a "paperclip" icon all over to indicate a file attachment but what about a "stapler?" Imagine selecting several documents in File Explorer and then "stapling" them together. Wouldn't that be natural -- and fun?

    So there is a lot of room for "improvement" in the DE.

    Are such things patentable?

    A patent is granted only for those inventions that are surprising to one skilled in the art. I doubt if a digital "erasure" would be surprising
    and hence patentable. But MicroSoft's lawyers would doubtless find a way.

    Eventually the GNOME/KDE folks would implement their own erasures and staplers.

    That's progress.







    --
    Hail Linux! Hail FOSS! Hail Stallman!

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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to Tyrone on Thu Apr 3 06:40:07 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Tyrone wrote:

    Isn't it time to grow up?

    Where's the fun in that? 8)

    --
    "So you have nothing better to do with your life but to download every
    distro that comes out." - trolling fsckwit "Ezekiel"

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to Paul on Thu Apr 3 16:44:10 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:31:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

    Powershell has tab-completion. And that likely came from tcsh,
    Rather than claim Linux invented that, it would pay to read the Wiki
    first.

    The cmd shell in Windows 2000 had tab completion. It was not enabled by
    default and you had to make an obscure registry edit to enable it. I never understood the logic behind that decision.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to rbowman on Thu Apr 3 14:06:25 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 2025-04-03 12:44, rbowman wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:31:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

    Powershell has tab-completion. And that likely came from tcsh,
    Rather than claim Linux invented that, it would pay to read the Wiki
    first.

    The cmd shell in Windows 2000 had tab completion. It was not enabled by default and you had to make an obscure registry edit to enable it. I never understood the logic behind that decision.

    It would have been too convenient for users.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Paul on Thu Apr 3 20:38:28 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:31:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

    On Thu, 4/3/2025 3:42 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    Let’s just say, it’s not Linux trying desperately to become more like
    Windows, it’s Microsoft desperately trying to make Windows more like
    Linux.

    Microsoft copies "features", it does not particularly care where
    they come from.

    Microsoft is stuck in a bind. After years, decades, of conditioning its
    users to be allergic to the command line, now suddenly it has to reverse
    course and admit that command lines can be cool after all.

    It’s not going well.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 3 23:18:05 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 13:41:23 -0700, % wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:31:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

    On Thu, 4/3/2025 3:42 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    Let’s just say, it’s not Linux trying desperately to become more like >>>> Windows, it’s Microsoft desperately trying to make Windows more like >>>> Linux.

    Microsoft copies "features", it does not particularly care where they
    come from.

    Microsoft is stuck in a bind. After years, decades, of conditioning its
    users to be allergic to the command line, now suddenly it has to
    reverse course and admit that command lines can be cool after all.

    It’s not going well.

    bill's place has 17 bathrooms and you say it's not going well ...

    That was built way back when. Microsoft was still referring to Linux as a “cancer” at the time. Or maybe even before, when nobody had heard of Linux and Microsoft was considered unassailable.

    computers have become the least of their profit making devices

    That’s not really a reassurance about the future of Windows though, is it?

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Fri Apr 4 01:34:11 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 14:06:25 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    On 2025-04-03 12:44, rbowman wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:31:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

    Powershell has tab-completion. And that likely came from tcsh, Rather
    than claim Linux invented that, it would pay to read the Wiki first.

    The cmd shell in Windows 2000 had tab completion. It was not enabled by
    default and you had to make an obscure registry edit to enable it. I
    never understood the logic behind that decision.

    It would have been too convenient for users.

    How true. IT gave me a new Windows 11 box since the old one was stuck in
    a Windows Insiders dead end but I haven't used it much. Today I discovered
    the right click menu in Explorer has the 'click to see more' crap. Now I
    have to hunt down the registry setting to get rid of that 'feature'.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Fri Apr 4 01:30:24 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 20:38:28 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    Microsoft is stuck in a bind. After years, decades, of conditioning its
    users to be allergic to the command line, now suddenly it has to reverse course and admit that command lines can be cool after all.

    It’s not going well.

    Windows Terminal is a step in the right direction although the first thing
    I have to do is change the default to cmd rather than PowerShell.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to rbowman on Thu Apr 3 21:39:08 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 2025-04-03 21:34, rbowman wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 14:06:25 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    On 2025-04-03 12:44, rbowman wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:31:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

    Powershell has tab-completion. And that likely came from tcsh, Rather
    than claim Linux invented that, it would pay to read the Wiki first.

    The cmd shell in Windows 2000 had tab completion. It was not enabled by
    default and you had to make an obscure registry edit to enable it. I
    never understood the logic behind that decision.

    It would have been too convenient for users.

    How true. IT gave me a new Windows 11 box since the old one was stuck in
    a Windows Insiders dead end but I haven't used it much. Today I discovered the right click menu in Explorer has the 'click to see more' crap. Now I
    have to hunt down the registry setting to get rid of that 'feature'.

    I have to right-click to see more if I want to use something other than
    the built-in software in many cases. I understand that Microsoft
    believes its stuff is competent, and it is, but I like the fact that I
    can make a password-protected 7z file and want to use _it_ for my
    compression needs, not the Microsoft built-in compressor. Even if it did
    have a password-protect feature, I wouldn't trust it not to be easily
    bypassed.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to rbowman on Fri Apr 4 08:51:28 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:31:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

    Powershell has tab-completion. And that likely came from tcsh,
    Rather than claim Linux invented that, it would pay to read the Wiki
    first.

    The cmd shell in Windows 2000 had tab completion. It was not enabled by default and you had to make an obscure registry edit to enable it. I never understood the logic behind that decision.

    It was like the 8-or-so-character keyboard buffer in MS-DOS.

    Way too small

    --
    Unix Beer: Comes in several different brands, in cans ranging from 8 oz.
    to 64 oz. Drinkers of Unix Beer display fierce brand loyalty, even
    though they claim that all the different brands taste almost identical. Sometimes the pop-tops break off when you try to open them, so you have
    to have your own can opener around for those occasions, in which case you either need a complete set of instructions, or a friend who has been
    drinking Unix Beer for several years.
    BSD stout: Deep, hearty, and an acquired taste. The official
    brewer has released the recipe, and a lot of home-brewers now use it.
    Hurd beer: Long advertised by the popular and politically active
    GNU brewery, so far it has more head than body. The GNU brewery is
    mostly known for printing complete brewing instructions on every can,
    which contains hops, malt, barley, and yeast ... not yet fermented.
    Linux brand: A recipe originally created by a drunken Finn in his basement, it has since become the home-brew of choice for impecunious
    brewers and Unix beer-lovers worldwide, many of whom change the recipe.
    POSIX ales: Sweeter than lager, with the kick of a stout; the
    newer batches of a lot of beers seem to blend ale and stout or lager.
    Solaris brand: A lager, intended to replace Sun brand stout.
    Unlike most lagers, this one has to be drunk more slowly than stout.
    Sun brand: Long the most popular stout on the Unix market, it was discontinued in favor of a lager.
    SysV lager: Clear and thirst-quenching, but lacking the body of
    stout or the sweetness of ale.

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  • From Mark Lloyd@21:1/5 to Paul on Fri Apr 4 19:05:30 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:31:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

    [snip]

    The TaskBar today in Windows, has a feature that makes it descend below
    the bottom edge of the screen, yielding more screen space. Microsoft did
    not invent that, but the MacOS did at some point in the past (perhaps
    MacOSX 10.1 or so). Since that's optional, you won't see that happening
    on every user desktop here.

    I never liked UI elements that move when you try to click on them, or that
    make you click off the screen (Windows 8.0 did a lot of that).

    [snip]
    --
    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

    "There are none more ignorant and useless, than they that seek answers
    on their knees, with their eyes closed."

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  • From Char Jackson@21:1/5 to Mark Lloyd on Fri Apr 4 15:19:14 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 04 Apr 2025 19:05:30 GMT, Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:31:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

    [snip]

    The TaskBar today in Windows, has a feature that makes it descend below
    the bottom edge of the screen, yielding more screen space. Microsoft did
    not invent that, but the MacOS did at some point in the past (perhaps
    MacOSX 10.1 or so). Since that's optional, you won't see that happening
    on every user desktop here.

    I never liked UI elements that move when you try to click on them

    If you mean UI elements that are designed to be clickable, I appreciate
    some kind of feedback telling me that it has registered the click. There
    are many ways to do that, some better than others.

    or that
    make you click off the screen (Windows 8.0 did a lot of that).

    I can't think of an example of that, and I use Win 8 as my primary OS.
    I'm not even sure how it would be possible to reliably clickck on
    something that is off screen.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Mark Lloyd on Fri Apr 4 21:47:35 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 04 Apr 2025 19:05:30 GMT, Mark Lloyd wrote:

    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:31:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

    The TaskBar today in Windows, has a feature that makes it descend below
    the bottom edge of the screen, yielding more screen space.

    I never liked UI elements that move when you try to click on them, or
    that make you click off the screen (Windows 8.0 did a lot of that).

    Linux GUIs make this sort of thing configurable. I like the fact that I
    can make the taskbar disappear, and end up with a screen full only of my application window and nothing else.

    Of course, this works better when you have multiple virtual desktops.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Mark Lloyd on Fri Apr 4 18:38:29 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Fri, 4/4/2025 3:05 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:31:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

    [snip]

    The TaskBar today in Windows, has a feature that makes it descend below
    the bottom edge of the screen, yielding more screen space. Microsoft did
    not invent that, but the MacOS did at some point in the past (perhaps
    MacOSX 10.1 or so). Since that's optional, you won't see that happening
    on every user desktop here.

    I never liked UI elements that move when you try to click on them, or that make you click off the screen (Windows 8.0 did a lot of that).

    [snip]


    Windows 8.0 may have had gestures.

    One of them may have been swiping down
    the right side of the screen.

    They tried to introduce 10-point touch, but for desktops,
    there were not a lot of monitor offerings with the hardware
    support for that. the only gesture that comes to mind there,
    is "grab and rotate", done with the fingertips.

    Windows 8.0 had the "full screen mode" for Apps, where the App
    lacked an "X" for dismiss, in the upper right corner. You
    could use Alt-F4, to escape from that. There is a video of
    a test subject, who kinda freezes up and does the "deer in
    the headlights" face, in response to there being no "X"
    in the corner :-) That got fixed in Windows 8.1 .

    Paul

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to Paul on Sat Apr 5 00:54:40 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 18:38:29 -0400, Paul wrote:

    Windows 8.0 had the "full screen mode" for Apps, where the App lacked an
    "X" for dismiss, in the upper right corner. You could use Alt-F4, to
    escape from that. There is a video of a test subject, who kinda freezes
    up and does the "deer in the headlights" face, in response to there
    being no "X"
    in the corner That got fixed in Windows 8.1 .

    I've had that deer in the headlights look a few times. The first time I
    got a window too close to a corner and it went full screen my reaction was 'WTF? What did I do and how do I get rid of it?'

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Paul on Sat Apr 5 02:15:15 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 18:38:29 -0400, Paul wrote:

    Windows 8.0 had the "full screen mode" for Apps, where the App lacked an
    "X" for dismiss, in the upper right corner. You could use Alt-F4, to
    escape from that. There is a video of a test subject, who kinda freezes
    up and does the "deer in the headlights" face, in response to there
    being no "X"
    in the corner :-) That got fixed in Windows 8.1 .

    Windows 8 was an attempt to come up with a common UI for both regular “desktop” and “mobile” Windows (phones, tablets).

    This turned out to be a really bad idea. And not just because the “mobile” UI had its own problems.

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  • From Mark Lloyd@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Sat Apr 5 16:37:57 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 21:47:35 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On 04 Apr 2025 19:05:30 GMT, Mark Lloyd wrote:

    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:31:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

    The TaskBar today in Windows, has a feature that makes it descend
    below the bottom edge of the screen, yielding more screen space.

    I never liked UI elements that move when you try to click on them, or
    that make you click off the screen (Windows 8.0 did a lot of that).

    Linux GUIs make this sort of thing configurable. I like the fact that I
    can make the taskbar disappear, and end up with a screen full only of my application window and nothing else.

    Of course, this works better when you have multiple virtual desktops.

    I see how that could work. On my desktop (I usually have Xubuntu), you can change desktops with the keyboard so you don't need anything to click.

    --
    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

    "It cannot be too often repeated, that truth scorns the assistance of
    miracle." [Robert G. Ingersoll]

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  • From Mark Lloyd@21:1/5 to Char Jackson on Sat Apr 5 16:35:47 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Fri, 04 Apr 2025 15:19:14 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

    On 04 Apr 2025 19:05:30 GMT, Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:31:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

    [snip]

    The TaskBar today in Windows, has a feature that makes it descend
    below the bottom edge of the screen, yielding more screen space.
    Microsoft did not invent that, but the MacOS did at some point in the
    past (perhaps MacOSX 10.1 or so). Since that's optional, you won't see
    that happening on every user desktop here.

    I never liked UI elements that move when you try to click on them

    If you mean UI elements that are designed to be clickable, I appreciate
    some kind of feedback telling me that it has registered the click. There
    are many ways to do that, some better than others.

    I'm not talking about the feedback, but movement that happens when you're trying to click.

    or that make you click off the screen (Windows 8.0 did a lot of that).

    I can't think of an example of that, and I use Win 8 as my primary OS.
    I'm not even sure how it would be possible to reliably clickck on
    something that is off screen.

    It's been awhile since I used Windows 8 (note hat I said 8.0 not 8.1), but
    I do remember having to click off the screen for some things. IIRC, that
    was changed in 8.1.

    --
    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

    "It cannot be too often repeated, that truth scorns the assistance of
    miracle." [Robert G. Ingersoll]

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Mark Lloyd on Sat Apr 5 17:50:44 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:
    On Fri, 04 Apr 2025 15:19:14 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

    On 04 Apr 2025 19:05:30 GMT, Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:31:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

    [snip]

    The TaskBar today in Windows, has a feature that makes it descend
    below the bottom edge of the screen, yielding more screen space.
    Microsoft did not invent that, but the MacOS did at some point in the
    past (perhaps MacOSX 10.1 or so). Since that's optional, you won't see >>> that happening on every user desktop here.

    I never liked UI elements that move when you try to click on them

    If you mean UI elements that are designed to be clickable, I appreciate some kind of feedback telling me that it has registered the click. There are many ways to do that, some better than others.

    I'm not talking about the feedback, but movement that happens when you're trying to click.

    or that make you click off the screen (Windows 8.0 did a lot of that).

    I can't think of an example of that, and I use Win 8 as my primary OS.
    I'm not even sure how it would be possible to reliably clickck on
    something that is off screen.

    It's been awhile since I used Windows 8 (note hat I said 8.0 not 8.1), but
    I do remember having to click off the screen for some things. IIRC, that
    was changed in 8.1.

    Yes, AFAIR - even in 8.1 (my system came with 8.1) - there was a
    'swipe' to the right edge and then click to get to some settings stuff
    and a 'swipe' to the upper-left and then click to switch from the Fisher
    Price GUI to Real Windows (TM). Very akward and counter-intuitive.
    AFAIR, a side-effect of the touch screen UI.

    I switched from the Fisher Price GUI to Real Windows (TM) and
    installed the Classic Start Menu and lived happily ever since. (Now on
    Windows 11 (skipped 10).)

    N.B. Even Windows 11 has a bit of this silliness: I can move the
    pointer off-screen to the right or to the bottom (below the Taskbar) and
    click and it behaves as if the pointer is still on the Desktop/Taskbar,

    When trying to move the pointer off-screen to the top or left, the
    pointer just hits the top/left of the screen.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Char Jackson on Sat Apr 5 16:09:44 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Char Jackson wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 04 Apr 2025 19:05:30 GMT, Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 05:31:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

    [snip]

    The TaskBar today in Windows, has a feature that makes it descend below
    the bottom edge of the screen, yielding more screen space. Microsoft did >>> not invent that, but the MacOS did at some point in the past (perhaps
    MacOSX 10.1 or so). Since that's optional, you won't see that happening
    on every user desktop here.

    I never liked UI elements that move when you try to click on them

    If you mean UI elements that are designed to be clickable, I appreciate
    some kind of feedback telling me that it has registered the click. There
    are many ways to do that, some better than others.

    It's a good joke to have the button move away everytime you get near it
    :-D

    --
    Not that I'm against sneaking some notions into people's heads upon
    occasion. (Or blasting them in outright.)
    -- Larry Wall in <199710211624.JAA17833@wall.org>

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to rbowman on Wed Apr 9 19:20:03 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 01:30 this Friday (GMT):
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 20:38:28 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    Microsoft is stuck in a bind. After years, decades, of conditioning its
    users to be allergic to the command line, now suddenly it has to reverse
    course and admit that command lines can be cool after all.

    It’s not going well.

    Windows Terminal is a step in the right direction although the first thing
    I have to do is change the default to cmd rather than PowerShell.


    Agreed, powershell feels different for its own sake, and Windows trying
    to push it so hard (like changing the shift-rightclick shortcut to it)
    was very annoying.
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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  • From Anssi Saari@21:1/5 to rbowman on Thu Apr 10 11:44:21 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes:

    Windows Terminal is a step in the right direction although the first thing
    I have to do is change the default to cmd rather than PowerShell.

    The problem I had with Windows Terminal was that mouse buttons weren't remappable. At that time the feature had been requested for years, as I
    recall, so I looked for other alternatives.

    Good thing Konsole is available for Windows these days (via msys2), I
    can run zsh and powershell in it. And mouse buttons work sensibly for
    copy and paste. And also, it's my favorite terminal for Linux.

    I don't mind powershell since it can do way more things than old
    cmd. Someone even implemented nc in it which came in handy at one
    point. Lots of other scripts around too. I actually updated someone's "caffeinate" script to work again although that's now built into
    Microsoft's Powertoys as well.

    But for stuff I know how to do in cmd and not in powershell, I just use
    cmd.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Anssi Saari on Fri Apr 11 00:22:56 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 11:44:21 +0300, Anssi Saari wrote:

    Good thing Konsole is available for Windows these days (via msys2), I
    can run zsh and powershell in it. And mouse buttons work sensibly for
    copy and paste. And also, it's my favorite terminal for Linux.

    It is the most powerful terminal emulator, on any platform. Looks like
    Windows Terminal has been trying to copy it lately ... and not quite succeeding.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Fri Apr 11 08:26:42 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 11:44:21 +0300, Anssi Saari wrote:

    Good thing Konsole is available for Windows these days (via msys2), I
    can run zsh and powershell in it. And mouse buttons work sensibly for
    copy and paste. And also, it's my favorite terminal for Linux.

    It is the most powerful terminal emulator, on any platform. Looks like Windows Terminal has been trying to copy it lately ... and not quite succeeding.

    Meh. I'm fine with rxvt-unicode + tmux + cdargs.

    --
    A lady with one of her ears applied
    To an open keyhole heard, inside,
    Two female gossips in converse free --
    The subject engaging them was she.
    "I think", said one, "and my husband thinks
    That she's a prying, inquisitive minx!"
    As soon as no more of it she could hear
    The lady, indignant, removed her ear.
    "I will not stay," she said with a pout,
    "To hear my character lied about!"
    -- Gopete Sherany

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