• Re: The Tomb of the Pharoah who went through the plagues

    From Scott Doty@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 2 14:00:14 2025
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    In article <2aeHP.1505441$OrR5.148322@fx18.iad>, dochammerslack@creon.earth says...

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    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    =?UTF-8?Q?.../v]andrak|=e2=89=a1...?= <jfwaldby@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote in news:m5038kF5khpU1@mid.individual.net:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    =?UTF-8?Q?.../v]andrak|=e2=89=a1...?= <jfwaldby@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in news:m4vmtuF3mu0U2@mid.individual.net:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    =?UTF-8?Q?.../v]andrak|=e2=89=a1...?= <jfwaldby@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
    in
    news:m4uanpFrennU2@mid.individual.net:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
    news:vsamrm$3cnqt$2@dont-email.me:

    On Mar 27, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote (Message-ID: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <XnsB2AF86109E894629555@185.151.15.190>): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    =?UTF-8?Q?.../v]andrak|=e2=89=a1...? =<jfwaldby@gmail.com>
    wrote
    in news:m4l271FccgeU2@mid.individual.net: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    =?UTF-8?Q?.../v]andrak|=e2=89=a1...?=<jfwaldby@g >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail.com> wrote in
    news:m4kt52FbildU3@mid.individual.net: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Robert <robert@no.way>  wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:vs288a$2v1il$4@dont-email.me: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On Mar 23, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Message-ID:<jgl1ujp9f5r2julp1ecfe911297si >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jp0fj@4ax.com>):

    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:57:22 -0700, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert<robert@no.way>
         wrote:



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJP4pVjnWpk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The tomb of the Pharaoh that ruled when the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Israelites were let go. Which included the body >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of his 1st born son. Plus the dates of it all. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There were several Pharaohs living at about the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time of the Biblical tale of the Exodus (at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least according to a conservative reading of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> book -- to stay in step with archaeology, a more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recent dating of the supposed Exodus is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required). They all ruled at the height of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Egypt's power. How do you square that with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biblical story that would've led to the economic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collapse of the Egyptian civilization brought on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the loss of two million workers, if it had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually happened?

    The Israelites lived in the land of Egypt for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over 400 years, Therefore there were a lot of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pharaohs ruling at the same time. Joseph ruled >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the land of Israel for his lifetime with the same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> authority as the Pharaoh. And if it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> werenÃ?Æ?Ã?â¤?Ã?⤠ââ?¬â?¢Ã?Æ?ââ?¬Å¡Ã?⤠>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ¨Ã?¢Ã?Æ?Ã?â¤?Ã?â
    ¤¨Ã?¢Ã?Æ?Ã?¢Ã?¢ââ?¬Å¡Ã?¬Ã?â¤?Ã?¡Ã?Æ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ââ?¬Å¡Ã?⤨Ã?ˆ ?Æ?Ã?â¤?Ã?⤨ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ã?¢Ã?Æ?Ã?¢Ã?¢ââ?¬Å¡Ã?¬Ã?â¤?Ã?Â?Ã?Æ?â >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> â?¬Å¡Ã?⤨Ã?¢t for Joseph Egypt would have been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in ruins because of the seven year famine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The Israelites were enslaved and were also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheepherders and the like, so most of what the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> land lost were workers.  Why do you assume there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would have been an economic collapse? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


    "Ex. 12:37 says 600,000 men on foot, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beside
    childrenÃ?Æ?Ã?â¤?Ã?⤨Ã?¢Ã?Æ?Ã?¢Ã?¢â⤨ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ¬Ã?¡Ã?⤨Ã?¬ went out from Egypt. That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extrapolates to around two million people making >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the exodus (extrapolated from Numbers 1:46). If >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 2 million people left Egypt, when the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entire population has been estimated at around 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to 4.5 million,
    it would have been noticed, and would have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resounded in Egyptian records.

    No that is an alternative reality which you have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not presented. Your argument is bullshit. You don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know that to be the case and there could be other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasons such as if the Egyptians struck it from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> records while Corinthians I was taking place. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


    Everything about Exodus is an alternative reality. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't see why. Slavery wasn't nothing but a thang >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back then.

    "There are no Egyptian records that clearly document >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the enslavement of a people identifiable as the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hebrews."


    https://www.thearchaeologist.org/blog/between-myth-and-reality-t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he -
    hebrews-enslavement-by-the-egyptians#google_vignette >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Were Jews ever really slaves in Egypt, or is Passover >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a myth?  Mar.26, 2012

    The reality is that there is no evidence whatsoever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the Jews were ever enslaved in Egypt. Yes, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's the story contained within the bible itself, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but that's not a remotely historically admissible >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source. I'm talking about real proof; archeological >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence, state records and primary sources. Of these, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing exists.


    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/the-jewish-thinker/were-jews >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -e ve r-
    really-slaves-in-egypt-or-is-passover-a-myth-1.42084 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    http://tinyurl.com/azjoyzd

    I posted a ling here a month or so ago with a record >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pillar or something that mentions then wandering in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desert.



    ".......there is no evidence whatsoever that the Jews >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were ever enslaved in Egypt."

        From the above.

    Demonstrate this lack of evidence if you really think it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exists and not a figment of your imagination. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


           Demonstrate a lack of evidence?

           Sorry, but the believers that X happened >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have the burden of proving that it did.



    Okay, I point to he Bible.

               Why?



       The fact that Exodus, a book that is 2300
    yrs old includes documentation of Jews enslaved in Egypt a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> matter of evidence.  Case closed.  Robert, shut the fuck >>>>>>>>>>>>>> up.


           A fable that is old is still a fable.

           Is story of Pandora's Box true just
    because it is old? Is the story of King Midas true just >>>>>>>>>>>>> because it is old?

    You said there is a lack of evidence.  It is a piece of >>>>>>>>>>>> evidence.


         A claim is not evidence of it's own truth.

         Are Elvis sightings proof he is alive?



    of course they are


    LOL. Exactly. What else would they be. Duh.



    No stupid.  Elvis sightings are EVIDENCE he is alive, not proof . >>>>>>>> You stupid motherfuckers.

    no , but i'm glad for you you saw him
    In court there is evidence for and against a position.

    Existence of evidence is not proof, stupid dumbass.

    God, are you too poor to own a dictionary?

    Fucking churchmouse Canadians.

    I'm having loaded potato soup from the sandwich store.

    what was he doing

    I haven't seen Elvis, but I know his continued life is less
    controversial than the existence of Bigfoot.  He was being taken away >>>> by a UFO in the program I saw.  It drove the person mad who watched
    it with me.

    oh so you've been where they saw him , i get it now

    yes it was a Pink Floyd laser light show and they did a song called
    'they have Elvis in a UFO'.  The older guy with said it made him go
    mad.
     I think he just wanted to dis on a show I recommended we go see.

    i don't do things like that

    It's also not a Pink Floyd song. Sounds fishy to me.


    When I get stoned I like to listen to Pink Floyd & eat a lot.

    I have become comfortably plump.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to Scott Doty on Wed Apr 2 14:03:57 2025
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    On 2025-04-02 14:00, Scott Doty wrote:
    In article <2aeHP.1505441$OrR5.148322@fx18.iad>, dochammerslack@creon.earth says...

    NOTICE: The DOCTOR is ON...at Wed, 2 Apr 2025 08:24:28 -0700, % wrote:

    .../v]andrak|=... wrote:
    % wrote:
    .../v]andrak|=... wrote:
    % wrote:
    .../v]andrak|=... wrote:
    % wrote:
    .../v]andrak|=... wrote:
    Ted Street wrote:
    % wrote:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    =?UTF-8?Q?.../v]andrak|=e2=89=a1...?= <jfwaldby@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in news:m5038kF5khpU1@mid.individual.net:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    =?UTF-8?Q?.../v]andrak|=e2=89=a1...?= <jfwaldby@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in news:m4vmtuF3mu0U2@mid.individual.net:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    =?UTF-8?Q?.../v]andrak|=e2=89=a1...?= <jfwaldby@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
    in
    news:m4uanpFrennU2@mid.individual.net:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
    news:vsamrm$3cnqt$2@dont-email.me:

    On Mar 27, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote (Message-ID: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <XnsB2AF86109E894629555@185.151.15.190>): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    =?UTF-8?Q?.../v]andrak|=e2=89=a1...?
    =<jfwaldby@gmail.com>
    wrote
    in news:m4l271FccgeU2@mid.individual.net: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    =?UTF-8?Q?.../v]andrak|=e2=89=a1...?=<jfwaldby@g >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail.com> wrote in
    news:m4kt52FbildU3@mid.individual.net: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Robert <robert@no.way>  wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:vs288a$2v1il$4@dont-email.me: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On Mar 23, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Message-ID:<jgl1ujp9f5r2julp1ecfe911297si >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jp0fj@4ax.com>):

    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:57:22 -0700, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert<robert@no.way>
         wrote:



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJP4pVjnWpk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The tomb of the Pharaoh that ruled when the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Israelites were let go. Which included the body >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of his 1st born son. Plus the dates of it all. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There were several Pharaohs living at about the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time of the Biblical tale of the Exodus (at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least according to a conservative reading of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> book -- to stay in step with archaeology, a more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recent dating of the supposed Exodus is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required). They all ruled at the height of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Egypt's power. How do you square that with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biblical story that would've led to the economic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collapse of the Egyptian civilization brought on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the loss of two million workers, if it had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually happened?

    The Israelites lived in the land of Egypt for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over 400 years, Therefore there were a lot of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pharaohs ruling at the same time. Joseph ruled >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the land of Israel for his lifetime with the same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> authority as the Pharaoh. And if it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> werenÃ?Æ?Ã?â€?Ã?†ââ?¬â?¢Ã?Æ?ââ?¬Å¡Ã?â€
    šÃ?¢Ã?Æ?Ã?â€?Ã?â >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> €šÃ?¢Ã?Æ?Ã?¢Ã?¢ââ?¬Å¡Ã?¬Ã?â€?Ã?¡Ã?Æ?
    ââ?¬Å¡Ã?‚Ã?ˆ ?Æ?Ã?â€?Ã?‚
    Ã?¢Ã?Æ?Ã?¢Ã?¢ââ?¬Å¡Ã?¬Ã?â€?Ã?Â?Ã?Æ?â
    �š�‚�¢t for Joseph Egypt would have been
    in ruins because of the seven year famine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The Israelites were enslaved and were also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheepherders and the like, so most of what the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> land lost were workers.  Why do you assume there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would have been an economic collapse? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


    "Ex. 12:37 says 600,000 men on foot, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beside
    childrenÃ?Æ?Ã?â€?Ã?‚Ã?¢Ã?Æ?Ã?¢Ã?¢â‚Â
    ¬Ã?¡Ã?‚Ã?¬ went out from Egypt. That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extrapolates to around two million people making >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the exodus (extrapolated from Numbers 1:46). If >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 2 million people left Egypt, when the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entire population has been estimated at around 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to 4.5 million,
    it would have been noticed, and would have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resounded in Egyptian records. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No that is an alternative reality which you have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not presented. Your argument is bullshit. You don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know that to be the case and there could be other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasons such as if the Egyptians struck it from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> records while Corinthians I was taking place. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


    Everything about Exodus is an alternative reality. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't see why. Slavery wasn't nothing but a thang >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back then.

    "There are no Egyptian records that clearly document >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the enslavement of a people identifiable as the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hebrews."


    https://www.thearchaeologist.org/blog/between-myth-and-reality-t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he -
    hebrews-enslavement-by-the-egyptians#google_vignette >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Were Jews ever really slaves in Egypt, or is Passover >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a myth?  Mar.26, 2012

    The reality is that there is no evidence whatsoever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the Jews were ever enslaved in Egypt. Yes, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's the story contained within the bible itself, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but that's not a remotely historically admissible >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source. I'm talking about real proof; archeological >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence, state records and primary sources. Of these, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing exists.


    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/the-jewish-thinker/were-jews >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -e ve r-
    really-slaves-in-egypt-or-is-passover-a-myth-1.42084 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    http://tinyurl.com/azjoyzd

    I posted a ling here a month or so ago with a record >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pillar or something that mentions then wandering in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desert.



    ".......there is no evidence whatsoever that the Jews >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were ever enslaved in Egypt."

        From the above.

    Demonstrate this lack of evidence if you really think it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exists and not a figment of your imagination. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


           Demonstrate a lack of evidence? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
           Sorry, but the believers that X happened >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have the burden of proving that it did.



    Okay, I point to he Bible.

               Why?



       The fact that Exodus, a book that is 2300 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yrs old includes documentation of Jews enslaved in Egypt a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matter of evidence.  Case closed.  Robert, shut the fuck >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up.


           A fable that is old is still a fable. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
           Is story of Pandora's Box true just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it is old? Is the story of King Midas true just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it is old?

    You said there is a lack of evidence.  It is a piece of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence.


         A claim is not evidence of it's own truth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
         Are Elvis sightings proof he is alive?



    of course they are


    LOL. Exactly. What else would they be. Duh.



    No stupid.  Elvis sightings are EVIDENCE he is alive, not proof . >>>>>>>>>> You stupid motherfuckers.

    no , but i'm glad for you you saw him
    In court there is evidence for and against a position.

    Existence of evidence is not proof, stupid dumbass.

    God, are you too poor to own a dictionary?

    Fucking churchmouse Canadians.

    I'm having loaded potato soup from the sandwich store.

    what was he doing

    I haven't seen Elvis, but I know his continued life is less
    controversial than the existence of Bigfoot.  He was being taken away >>>>>> by a UFO in the program I saw.  It drove the person mad who watched >>>>>> it with me.

    oh so you've been where they saw him , i get it now

    yes it was a Pink Floyd laser light show and they did a song called
    'they have Elvis in a UFO'.  The older guy with said it made him go
    mad.
     I think he just wanted to dis on a show I recommended we go see.

    i don't do things like that

    It's also not a Pink Floyd song. Sounds fishy to me.


    When I get stoned I like to listen to Pink Floyd & eat a lot.

    I have become comfortably plump.

    Admittedly, once you get to a certain age, the motivation to stay in
    shape becomes minimal. I'm not there yet, but I imagine that I will be
    once I'm closer to retirement.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Wed Apr 2 19:12:58 2025
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    On 02/04/2025 19:03, CrudeSausage wrote:
    Admittedly, once you get to a certain age, the motivation to stay in
    shape becomes minimal. I'm not there yet, but I imagine that I will be
    once I'm closer to retirement.
    Loss of testosterone is massively responsible
    --
    There is nothing a fleet of dispatchable nuclear power plants cannot do
    that cannot be done worse and more expensively and with higher carbon
    emissions and more adverse environmental impact by adding intermittent renewable energy.

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  • From In the Name of Jesus@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Thu Apr 3 10:16:55 2025
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    On 3/04/2025 5:12 am, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 02/04/2025 19:03, CrudeSausage wrote:
    Admittedly, once you get to a certain age, the motivation to stay in
    shape becomes minimal. I'm not there yet, but I imagine that I will be
    once I'm closer to retirement.

    Loss of testosterone is massively responsible

    It is, and that is why you need to keep a watch on the size of your
    prostate.



    In the Name of Jesus

    --
    God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

    Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
    10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

    Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
    is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

    Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
    are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

    Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

    "If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything."

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
    God. When you find Him you have found the author."

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
    sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

    "Compromise will condemn you."

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life."

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free, and free indeed, with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything."

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
    an ignorant straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

    "The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

    "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

    "Man is not the centre of being."

    "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

    "And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

    "Man has no greater idol than his own will."

    "Where is God hiding? He isn't."

    "If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

    "You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
    willingness to believe."

    "Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
    and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

    "The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
    full of hope."

    "The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not so that a book could pass through it for a sinner to play God."

    "A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

    "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
    is the love of God."

    "The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

    "Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
    still according to my power," says the Lord.

    "What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
    order to explain the existence of existence."

    "Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

    "Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
     What a gift in a fallen world!"

    "Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

    "Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
    that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
    the glory of God"

    "God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
    isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
    road."

    "It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
    and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
    punished; it is what you are left with."

    "Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
    birth it in a man."

    "The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is self-righteousness."

    "A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

    "A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
    The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

    "It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

    "The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

    "There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

    "There is no such thing as random!"

    "You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

    "No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
    you know nothing."

    "You can't learn God; God has to reveal Himself to you."

    "No sinner is sinless in any way."

    "Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

    "What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
    a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

    "God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

    "Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

    "Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
    really are."

    "Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

    "But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
    Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
    know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

    "That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
    light did not ever become darkness."

    "You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
    daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

    "What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

    God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

    "It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
    a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

    "God has to be quiet now; we have our bible. Well, then, who is going to speak?"

    "It is all about the Lord in His glory and whether a man loves Him with
    all for who He is."

    "A son of God became the bible when he was born again because the Holy
    Spirit took up residence in his heart as Lord."

    "The veil of the temple was not rent in twain so that scripture could
    pass as God."

    "It is dreadfully difficult for religious people to repent of all they
    are as they have spent their whole lives reinforcing to themselves that
    they are "good sinners."

    "If you sin against the Lord, you are using Him."

    "The Lord Jesus is a Person, not a book you worship in your own image."

    "There was no greater self-righteous being than Satan and that of his children."

    "All continuing sinners seek their own glory!"

    "Before a man can kneel before God's throne, he must first walk away
    from the one he built for himself."

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to Scott Doty on Wed Apr 2 20:53:26 2025
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.bible, alt.christnet.christianlife
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop, comp.os.linux.misc

    On 2025-04-02 2:00 p.m., Scott Doty wrote:
    In article <2aeHP.1505441$OrR5.148322@fx18.iad>, dochammerslack@creon.earth says...

    NOTICE: The DOCTOR is ON...at Wed, 2 Apr 2025 08:24:28 -0700, % wrote:

    .../v]andrak|=... wrote:
    % wrote:
    .../v]andrak|=... wrote:
    % wrote:
    .../v]andrak|=... wrote:
    % wrote:
    .../v]andrak|=... wrote:
    Ted Street wrote:
    % wrote:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    =?UTF-8?Q?.../v]andrak|=e2=89=a1...?= <jfwaldby@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in news:m5038kF5khpU1@mid.individual.net:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    =?UTF-8?Q?.../v]andrak|=e2=89=a1...?= <jfwaldby@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in news:m4vmtuF3mu0U2@mid.individual.net:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    =?UTF-8?Q?.../v]andrak|=e2=89=a1...?= <jfwaldby@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
    in
    news:m4uanpFrennU2@mid.individual.net:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
    news:vsamrm$3cnqt$2@dont-email.me:

    On Mar 27, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote (Message-ID: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <XnsB2AF86109E894629555@185.151.15.190>): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    =?UTF-8?Q?.../v]andrak|=e2=89=a1...?
    =<jfwaldby@gmail.com>
    wrote
    in news:m4l271FccgeU2@mid.individual.net: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    =?UTF-8?Q?.../v]andrak|=e2=89=a1...?=<jfwaldby@g >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail.com> wrote in
    news:m4kt52FbildU3@mid.individual.net: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Robert <robert@no.way>  wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:vs288a$2v1il$4@dont-email.me: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On Mar 23, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Message-ID:<jgl1ujp9f5r2julp1ecfe911297si >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jp0fj@4ax.com>):

    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:57:22 -0700, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert<robert@no.way>
         wrote:



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJP4pVjnWpk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The tomb of the Pharaoh that ruled when the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Israelites were let go. Which included the body >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of his 1st born son. Plus the dates of it all. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There were several Pharaohs living at about the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time of the Biblical tale of the Exodus (at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least according to a conservative reading of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> book -- to stay in step with archaeology, a more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recent dating of the supposed Exodus is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required). They all ruled at the height of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Egypt's power. How do you square that with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biblical story that would've led to the economic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collapse of the Egyptian civilization brought on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the loss of two million workers, if it had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually happened?

    The Israelites lived in the land of Egypt for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over 400 years, Therefore there were a lot of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pharaohs ruling at the same time. Joseph ruled >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the land of Israel for his lifetime with the same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> authority as the Pharaoh. And if it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> werenÃ?Æ?Ã?â€?Ã?†ââ?¬â?¢Ã?Æ?ââ?¬Å¡Ã?â€
    šÃ?¢Ã?Æ?Ã?â€?Ã?â >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> €šÃ?¢Ã?Æ?Ã?¢Ã?¢ââ?¬Å¡Ã?¬Ã?â€?Ã?¡Ã?Æ?
    ââ?¬Å¡Ã?‚Ã?ˆ ?Æ?Ã?â€?Ã?‚
    Ã?¢Ã?Æ?Ã?¢Ã?¢ââ?¬Å¡Ã?¬Ã?â€?Ã?Â?Ã?Æ?â
    �š�‚�¢t for Joseph Egypt would have been
    in ruins because of the seven year famine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The Israelites were enslaved and were also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheepherders and the like, so most of what the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> land lost were workers.  Why do you assume there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would have been an economic collapse? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


    "Ex. 12:37 says 600,000 men on foot, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beside
    childrenÃ?Æ?Ã?â€?Ã?‚Ã?¢Ã?Æ?Ã?¢Ã?¢â‚Â
    ¬Ã?¡Ã?‚Ã?¬ went out from Egypt. That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extrapolates to around two million people making >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the exodus (extrapolated from Numbers 1:46). If >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 2 million people left Egypt, when the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entire population has been estimated at around 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to 4.5 million,
    it would have been noticed, and would have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resounded in Egyptian records. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No that is an alternative reality which you have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not presented. Your argument is bullshit. You don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know that to be the case and there could be other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasons such as if the Egyptians struck it from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> records while Corinthians I was taking place. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


    Everything about Exodus is an alternative reality. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't see why. Slavery wasn't nothing but a thang >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back then.

    "There are no Egyptian records that clearly document >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the enslavement of a people identifiable as the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hebrews."


    https://www.thearchaeologist.org/blog/between-myth-and-reality-t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he -
    hebrews-enslavement-by-the-egyptians#google_vignette >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Were Jews ever really slaves in Egypt, or is Passover >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a myth?  Mar.26, 2012

    The reality is that there is no evidence whatsoever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the Jews were ever enslaved in Egypt. Yes, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's the story contained within the bible itself, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but that's not a remotely historically admissible >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source. I'm talking about real proof; archeological >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence, state records and primary sources. Of these, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing exists.


    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/the-jewish-thinker/were-jews >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -e ve r-
    really-slaves-in-egypt-or-is-passover-a-myth-1.42084 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    http://tinyurl.com/azjoyzd

    I posted a ling here a month or so ago with a record >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pillar or something that mentions then wandering in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desert.



    ".......there is no evidence whatsoever that the Jews >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were ever enslaved in Egypt."

        From the above.

    Demonstrate this lack of evidence if you really think it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exists and not a figment of your imagination. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


           Demonstrate a lack of evidence? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
           Sorry, but the believers that X happened >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have the burden of proving that it did.



    Okay, I point to he Bible.

               Why?



       The fact that Exodus, a book that is 2300 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yrs old includes documentation of Jews enslaved in Egypt a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matter of evidence.  Case closed.  Robert, shut the fuck >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up.


           A fable that is old is still a fable. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
           Is story of Pandora's Box true just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it is old? Is the story of King Midas true just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it is old?

    You said there is a lack of evidence.  It is a piece of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence.


         A claim is not evidence of it's own truth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
         Are Elvis sightings proof he is alive?



    of course they are


    LOL. Exactly. What else would they be. Duh.



    No stupid.  Elvis sightings are EVIDENCE he is alive, not proof . >>>>>>>>>> You stupid motherfuckers.

    no , but i'm glad for you you saw him
    In court there is evidence for and against a position.

    Existence of evidence is not proof, stupid dumbass.

    God, are you too poor to own a dictionary?

    Fucking churchmouse Canadians.

    I'm having loaded potato soup from the sandwich store.

    what was he doing

    I haven't seen Elvis, but I know his continued life is less
    controversial than the existence of Bigfoot.  He was being taken away >>>>>> by a UFO in the program I saw.  It drove the person mad who watched >>>>>> it with me.

    oh so you've been where they saw him , i get it now

    yes it was a Pink Floyd laser light show and they did a song called
    'they have Elvis in a UFO'.  The older guy with said it made him go
    mad.
     I think he just wanted to dis on a show I recommended we go see.

    i don't do things like that

    It's also not a Pink Floyd song. Sounds fishy to me.


    When I get stoned I like to listen to Pink Floyd & eat a lot.

    I have become comfortably plump.

    ROFL!

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Wed Apr 2 20:54:16 2025
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.bible, alt.christnet.christianlife
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop, comp.os.linux.misc

    On 2025-04-02 2:12 p.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 02/04/2025 19:03, CrudeSausage wrote:
    Admittedly, once you get to a certain age, the motivation to stay in
    shape becomes minimal. I'm not there yet, but I imagine that I will be
    once I'm closer to retirement.
    Loss of testosterone is massively responsible

    Loss of testosterone leads to not wanting to work out. Meanwhile, not
    working out leads to loss of testosterone.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Thu Apr 3 07:02:35 2025
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.bible, alt.christnet.christianlife
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop, comp.os.linux.misc

    CrudeSausage wrote:

    Admittedly, once you get to a certain age, the motivation to stay in
    shape becomes minimal. I'm not there yet, but I imagine that I will be
    once I'm closer to retirement.

    I'm getting close to retirement and still skinny/buff. I've got my
    first 10k of the year coming up soon.

    --
    "As I said before... it's all about choice as long as [FOSS advocates]
    are the ones making the choice." - trolling fsckwit "Ezekiel", lying shamelessly

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  • From Attila@21:1/5 to message-id on Sat Apr 5 04:55:47 2025
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.bible, alt.christnet.christianlife
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop, comp.os.linux.misc

    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 10:16:55 +1100, In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
    message-id <vskgh8$2o87q$3@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 3/04/2025 5:12 am, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 02/04/2025 19:03, CrudeSausage wrote:
    Admittedly, once you get to a certain age, the motivation to stay in
    shape becomes minimal. I'm not there yet, but I imagine that I will be
    once I'm closer to retirement.

    Loss of testosterone is massively responsible

    It is, and that is why you need to keep a watch on the size of your
    prostate.



    In the Name of Jesus

    You can easily do that since your head is usually up your
    ass anyway. All you need is a flashlight.

    --


    Build a wall.
    Deport them all.

    Every illegal is a criminal.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

    Date - Jan 20, 2025
    Time - 12:00 Noon

    "Joe who?"

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

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  • From Attila@21:1/5 to 4vt1vj5cdjpku3h7c9cpqrjqjvcp3mr1vu@ on Sat Apr 5 09:06:35 2025
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.bible, alt.christnet.christianlife
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop, comp.os.linux.misc

    On Sat, 05 Apr 2025 05:31:01 -0400, Joel
    <joelcrump@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <4vt1vj5cdjpku3h7c9cpqrjqjvcp3mr1vu@4ax.com> wrote:

    Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

    Build a wall.
    Deport them all.

    Every illegal is a criminal.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

    Date - Jan 20, 2025
    Time - 12:00 Noon

    "Joe who?"

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.


    You are a strange character.

    Not from my viewpoint.

    --


    Build a wall.
    Deport them all.

    Every illegal is a criminal.

    All politicians are trained to lie
    and make those lies sound like
    the truth. They start with the biggest
    lie of all: Politicians are public
    servants.

    DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

    Date - Jan 20, 2025
    Time - 12:00 Noon

    "Joe who?"

    I support:

    A Constitional Amendment establishing
    the Freedom of Choice.

    The elimination of public expression,
    display or support of religion or
    religious positions.

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  • From In the Name of Jesus@21:1/5 to Attila on Sun Apr 6 10:06:10 2025
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.bible, alt.christnet.christianlife
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop, comp.os.linux.misc

    On 5/04/2025 7:55 pm, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 10:16:55 +1100, In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
    message-id <vskgh8$2o87q$3@dont-email.me> wrote:

    On 3/04/2025 5:12 am, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 02/04/2025 19:03, CrudeSausage wrote:
    Admittedly, once you get to a certain age, the motivation to stay in
    shape becomes minimal. I'm not there yet, but I imagine that I will be >>>> once I'm closer to retirement.

    Loss of testosterone is massively responsible

    It is, and that is why you need to keep a watch on the size of your
    prostate.



    In the Name of Jesus

    You can easily do that since your head is usually up your
    ass anyway. All you need is a flashlight.

    Hahahahahahaha...I'll pay that one!




    --
    God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

    Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
    10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

    Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
    is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

    Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
    are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

    Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

    "If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything."

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
    God. When you find Him you have found the author."

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
    sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

    "Compromise will condemn you."

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life."

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free, and free indeed, with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything."

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
    an ignorant straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

    "The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

    "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

    "Man is not the centre of being."

    "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

    "And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

    "Man has no greater idol than his own will."

    "Where is God hiding? He isn't."

    "If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

    "You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
    willingness to believe."

    "Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
    and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

    "The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
    full of hope."

    "The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not so that a book could pass through it for a sinner to play God."

    "A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

    "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
    is the love of God."

    "The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

    "Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
    still according to my power," says the Lord.

    "What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
    order to explain the existence of existence."

    "Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

    "Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
     What a gift in a fallen world!"

    "Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

    "Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
    that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
    the glory of God"

    "God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
    isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
    road."

    "It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
    and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
    punished; it is what you are left with."

    "Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
    birth it in a man."

    "The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is self-righteousness."

    "A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

    "A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
    The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

    "It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

    "The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

    "There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

    "There is no such thing as random!"

    "You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

    "No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
    you know nothing."

    "You can't learn God; God has to reveal Himself to you."

    "No sinner is sinless in any way."

    "Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

    "What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
    a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

    "God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

    "Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

    "Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
    really are."

    "Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

    "But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
    Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
    know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

    "That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
    light did not ever become darkness."

    "You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
    daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

    "What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

    God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

    "It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
    a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

    "God has to be quiet now; we have our bible. Well, then, who is going to speak?"

    "It is all about the Lord in His glory and whether a man loves Him with
    all for who He is."

    "A son of God became the bible when he was born again because the Holy
    Spirit took up residence in his heart as Lord."

    "The veil of the temple was not rent in twain so that scripture could
    pass as God."

    "It is dreadfully difficult for religious people to repent of all they
    are as they have spent their whole lives reinforcing to themselves that
    they are "good sinners."

    "If you sin against the Lord, you are using Him."

    "The Lord Jesus is a Person, not a book you worship in your own image."

    "There was no greater self-righteous being than Satan and that of his children."

    "All continuing sinners seek their own glory!"

    "Before a man can kneel before God's throne, he must first walk away
    from the one he built for himself."

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