• Linux 6.14.0-next-20250404 yadayada

    From vallor@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 4 09:06:49 2025
    Blah blah blah
    Linux mintvirt 6.14.0-next-20250404 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr 3 21:14:41 PDT
    2025 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

    real 413.61
    user 19123.16
    sys 3952.47

    But I'm going to take it that nobody cares.

    I did boot this on bare metal, but had trouble getting NVIDIA
    drivers to install correctly -- both the current drivers and
    the open drivers from the git repository. Gave up on it and went back
    to 6.14.0. (I'm too performance-sensitive to settle for the nouveau
    driver.)

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    OS: Linux 6.14.0 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to vallor on Fri Apr 4 18:44:32 2025
    On 4 Apr 2025 09:06:49 GMT, vallor wrote:

    I did boot this on bare metal, but had trouble getting NVIDIA drivers to install correctly -- both the current drivers and the open drivers from
    the git repository. Gave up on it and went back to 6.14.0. (I'm too performance-sensitive to settle for the nouveau driver.)

    I'm running the Fedora 42 prerelease. It is also 6.14.0 with no problems.
    I did get a lot of plasma updates yesterday although I had not seen any problems.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to rbowman on Fri Apr 4 15:37:45 2025
    On 2025-04-04 2:44 p.m., rbowman wrote:
    On 4 Apr 2025 09:06:49 GMT, vallor wrote:

    I did boot this on bare metal, but had trouble getting NVIDIA drivers to
    install correctly -- both the current drivers and the open drivers from
    the git repository. Gave up on it and went back to 6.14.0. (I'm too
    performance-sensitive to settle for the nouveau driver.)

    I'm running the Fedora 42 prerelease. It is also 6.14.0 with no problems.
    I did get a lot of plasma updates yesterday although I had not seen any problems.

    Scott's problem above is another reminder of why people who made the
    mistake of buying NVIDIA hardware should continue to stay away from
    Linux. I think we're all looking forward to the inevitable open driver,
    but anyone looking to run Linux should be extra careful to choose one
    with an AMD GPU.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to rbowman on Sat Apr 5 01:13:53 2025
    On 5 Apr 2025 00:50:44 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in <m5bd33Fu9b2U1@mid.individual.net>:

    On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 15:37:45 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    Scott's problem above is another reminder of why people who made the
    mistake of buying NVIDIA hardware should continue to stay away from
    Linux. I think we're all looking forward to the inevitable open driver,
    but anyone looking to run Linux should be extra careful to choose one
    with an AMD GPU.

    The Fedora box is Intel with a Xeon GPU. I agree Nvidia is problematic
    on Linux but if you want to play games maybe a Switch 2 would be a good choice.

    Note: I don't know anything about the Switch 2 other than people
    bitching that Mario Kart, whatever that is, will be $80 for it.

    Linux distributions, such as Mint, support NVIDIA just fine.

    I'm just going out on a limb running the bleeding edge development
    kernel, which the NVIDIA drivers haven't caught up to yet. The
    latest _release_ kernel, 6.14, runs fine with the current NVIDIA drivers.

    Not to mention that Linux Mint is not even running the latest
    kernel release -- it is at 6.8.0-57 currently (for the lowlatency
    kernel). One uses the driver manager to select NVIDIA's drivers
    for use with Linux. (By default, it uses nouveau, which at this
    point shouldn't be a problem except for high-performance applications
    such as gaming in a space simulator.)

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    OS: Linux 6.14.0 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
    "There is no dark side of the moon. Really."

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Sat Apr 5 00:50:44 2025
    On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 15:37:45 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    Scott's problem above is another reminder of why people who made the
    mistake of buying NVIDIA hardware should continue to stay away from
    Linux. I think we're all looking forward to the inevitable open driver,
    but anyone looking to run Linux should be extra careful to choose one
    with an AMD GPU.

    The Fedora box is Intel with a Xeon GPU. I agree Nvidia is problematic on
    Linux but if you want to play games maybe a Switch 2 would be a good
    choice.

    Note: I don't know anything about the Switch 2 other than people bitching
    that Mario Kart, whatever that is, will be $80 for it.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to rbowman on Sat Apr 5 09:17:18 2025
    On 2025-04-04 8:50 p.m., rbowman wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 15:37:45 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    Scott's problem above is another reminder of why people who made the
    mistake of buying NVIDIA hardware should continue to stay away from
    Linux. I think we're all looking forward to the inevitable open driver,
    but anyone looking to run Linux should be extra careful to choose one
    with an AMD GPU.

    The Fedora box is Intel with a Xeon GPU. I agree Nvidia is problematic on Linux but if you want to play games maybe a Switch 2 would be a good
    choice.

    Note: I don't know anything about the Switch 2 other than people bitching that Mario Kart, whatever that is, will be $80 for it.

    Those prices are part of why I was ready to move on to PC gaming in 2012 anyway. It's always been a possibility to do so, but gaming on a
    computer was not always fun. Installing the game, then making sure that
    the CD was in the drive was a nuisance. Similarly, having to grab the
    manual and provide a word from page 56 to enter the game as a privacy
    measure just sucked. Once Valve created Steam and made everything so
    damned convenient, gaming on a console seemed needlessly cumbersome.
    That's why I sold my PS3 a year before the PS4 came out and decided that
    I would be better off just using a computer from that point on. The fact
    that you can get good games for $2 to $20 simply added to the fun.

    The Switch 2, with its $80 prices for games, is going to have a tough
    time selling to people who can get a capable PC-based portable instead
    for a lower price. Whether the customer buys it from MSI, ASUS, Lenovo
    or a Steam Deck, they'll not only have access to a larger library of
    games at a lower price, but better battery life and graphics too. Of
    course, there aren't any Nintendo games, and we know all too well what
    the appeal of Mario, Link, Donkey Kong and Shigeru Miyamoto's general
    genius is.

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    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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