• Does Anybody Still Use IIS Any More?

    From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 11 01:20:30 2025
    For a change, a Windows update screwup does little more (or so it
    looks) than leave a junk folder behind <https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/windows-update-drops-empty-intepub-folder-in-system-leaves-users-scratching-heads-after-april-update>.
    But it seems the folder name triggers unpleasant memories for some:

    ... this folder is associated with systems with Microsoft’s
    Internet Information Services (IIS) installed. IIS is a web server
    platform with a long history of security vulnerabilities.

    Is that how people remember IIS nowadays? As a source of security vulnerabilities, rather than a useful way to offer Web services on a
    Windows platform?

    Oh dear, how sad, never mind ...

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 14 21:51:18 2025
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 01:20:30 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:

    For a change, a Windows update screwup does little more (or so it
    looks) than leave a junk folder behind <https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/windows-update-drops-empty-intepub-folder-in-system-leaves-users-scratching-heads-after-april-update>.

    Now Microsoft is saying that empty junk folder is key to some strange
    new Windows security feature <https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-warning-dont-delete-that-weird-inetpub-folder-already-did-heres-your-fix/>.

    What happens if you’ve deleted it? Microsoft says don’t just recreate
    it yourself: instead, you must go through the rigmarole of turning IIS
    on and off again, to recreate it properly.

    You may wonder what Microsoft is up to these days, that it has to
    resort to such roundabout and baffling voodoo-black-magic measures all
    in the name of “security”.

    I expect some at Microsoft are wondering, too.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Mon Apr 14 20:41:07 2025
    On 4/14/25 17:51, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 01:20:30 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:

    For a change, a Windows update screwup does little more (or so it
    looks) than leave a junk folder behind
    <https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/windows-update-drops-empty-intepub-folder-in-system-leaves-users-scratching-heads-after-april-update>.

    Now Microsoft is saying that empty junk folder is key to some strange
    new Windows security feature <https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-warning-dont-delete-that-weird-inetpub-folder-already-did-heres-your-fix/>.

    What happens if you’ve deleted it? Microsoft says don’t just recreate
    it yourself: instead, you must go through the rigmarole of turning IIS
    on and off again, to recreate it properly.

    You may wonder what Microsoft is up to these days, that it has to
    resort to such roundabout and baffling voodoo-black-magic measures all
    in the name of “security”.

    I expect some at Microsoft are wondering, too.

    In the past few days, I saw the article you just posted and another
    asked people to ignore some 0xxxxxxx error. It's almost as though
    they're turning the operating system into a beta.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Tue Apr 15 04:20:16 2025
    On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 20:41:07 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    It's almost as though [Microsoft are] turning the [Windows] operating
    system into a beta.

    See my entire thread “Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues”.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Tue Apr 15 08:35:53 2025
    On 2025-04-15 00:20, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 20:41:07 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    It's almost as though [Microsoft are] turning the [Windows] operating
    system into a beta.

    See my entire thread “Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues”.

    I'm trying to be as objective as possible in referring to Windows, but
    the reality is that there are significant problems with continuing to
    use it even if you're sold on their product(s). Anyone with an AMD
    laptop is not going to have a satisfactory experience as a result of the
    fTPM stuttering. Anyone who buys movies and TV shows or subscribes to a streaming service and intends to watch content on an external monitor is
    not likely to be happy that the monitor shuts off as a protection
    against piracy. If the constant updates taking a long time don't bother
    the user, they might be annoyed that these updates introduce new folders
    or bugs that they are asked to simply ignore. If all of the above isn't bothersome, the user might be annoyed that the system slows down or
    becomes unstable because the system files managed to corrupt on their
    own requiring an SFC or DISM repair. If nothing else, people might get
    annoyed that their personal photos and videos get locked out because of
    some 0-day the company managed not to protect against or because of bit
    rot. At some point, people need to admit that such things are no longer acceptable in 2025 and move on.

    Eventually, the amount of compromises you need to make to use Windows
    outweighs the amount of sacrifices you make by moving away from it.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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  • From Tyrone@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Tue Apr 15 15:24:32 2025
    On Apr 15, 2025 at 8:35:53 AM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

    Eventually, the amount of compromises you need to make to use Windows outweighs the amount of sacrifices you make by moving away from it.

    Which explains why Windows - which 25 years ago had 95% desktop share in the U.S. - is now down
    to 65%. Macs are up to 23.5%.

    Linux, Chrome and Unknown make up the rest, with roughly 4% each. None of
    which were even a blip (or in the case of Chrome, did not exist) 25 years ago.


    The move away from Windows is real, and ongoing. MS knows this, and is probably putting less resources into Windows as a result. At least, it certainly LOOKS that way.

    To be fair, there are obviously many more PCs in use today than 25 years ago.
    So in real numbers, there are many more Windows PCs in use today than 25
    years ago. But the point is, there are now several viable options other than Windows.

    Which has never been true before.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to Tyrone on Tue Apr 15 11:56:58 2025
    On 2025-04-15 11:24, Tyrone wrote:
    On Apr 15, 2025 at 8:35:53 AM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

    Eventually, the amount of compromises you need to make to use Windows
    outweighs the amount of sacrifices you make by moving away from it.

    Which explains why Windows - which 25 years ago had 95% desktop share in the U.S. - is now down
    to 65%. Macs are up to 23.5%.

    I would say that Apple computers having a greater build quality than
    most manufacturers and the fact that Apple devices interoperate well
    with one another might have something to do with that.

    Linux, Chrome and Unknown make up the rest, with roughly 4% each. None of which were even a blip (or in the case of Chrome, did not exist) 25 years ago.

    There was a very strong interest in Linux between 1998 and 2002, but a
    lot of the people who ended up trying it out didn't stick with it
    because it wasn't as intuitive as they were hoping for.

    The move away from Windows is real, and ongoing. MS knows this, and is probably putting less resources into Windows as a result. At least, it certainly LOOKS that way.

    To be fair, there are obviously many more PCs in use today than 25 years ago.
    So in real numbers, there are many more Windows PCs in use today than 25 years ago. But the point is, there are now several viable options other than Windows.

    Which has never been true before.

    Linux, especially through Ubuntu and Mint, is much more of a option
    today than it used to be. However, machines comes with their own
    operating system and no matter how easy it is to switch to Linux, a lot
    of people find it complicated to do so. They would rather suffer with
    something that works poorly than try something that might work better.
    Only if Windows fails them in a miserable way will they be tempted to
    switch.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Tue Apr 15 17:56:11 2025
    On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 11:56:58 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    There was a very strong interest in Linux between 1998 and 2002, but a
    lot of the people who ended up trying it out didn't stick with it
    because it wasn't as intuitive as they were hoping for.

    It has matured a bit in 25 years. Very few members of Gen Z have any
    knowledge of installing Linux from floppies. Or floppies, for that matter. Since Linux phones aren't really feasible they may never have heard of it.

    Fedora 42 is out. Among other things they tweaked the emulator from the
    Asahi project and claim the ARM install can run i86 software. It would be interesting if they're better at it than Microsoft.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to rbowman on Tue Apr 15 19:54:31 2025
    On 4/15/25 13:56, rbowman wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 11:56:58 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    There was a very strong interest in Linux between 1998 and 2002, but a
    lot of the people who ended up trying it out didn't stick with it
    because it wasn't as intuitive as they were hoping for.

    It has matured a bit in 25 years. Very few members of Gen Z have any knowledge of installing Linux from floppies. Or floppies, for that matter. Since Linux phones aren't really feasible they may never have heard of it.

    I actually owned a Linux phone. When it stuttered in streaming content
    from the phone to my car's system through Bluetooth, I knew it had no
    chance. I'm not talking about Android either.

    Fedora 42 is out. Among other things they tweaked the emulator from the
    Asahi project and claim the ARM install can run i86 software. It would be interesting if they're better at it than Microsoft.

    I liked Fedora, but it broke the NVIDIA driver all the time. That's why
    I'm sticking to Ubuntu on this machine and Linux Mint on my cheap
    MacBook Air. Both make it easy to install the proprietary drivers but
    also make it a part of the system, causing it to be less likely to
    break. Ubuntu 24.10, for now at least, has been quite stellar.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to RonB on Wed Apr 16 08:52:35 2025
    On 2025-04-16 08:40, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-15, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-04-15 00:20, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 20:41:07 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    It's almost as though [Microsoft are] turning the [Windows] operating
    system into a beta.

    See my entire thread “Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues”.

    I'm trying to be as objective as possible in referring to Windows, but
    the reality is that there are significant problems with continuing to
    use it even if you're sold on their product(s). Anyone with an AMD
    laptop is not going to have a satisfactory experience as a result of the
    fTPM stuttering. Anyone who buys movies and TV shows or subscribes to a
    streaming service and intends to watch content on an external monitor is
    not likely to be happy that the monitor shuts off as a protection
    against piracy. If the constant updates taking a long time don't bother
    the user, they might be annoyed that these updates introduce new folders
    or bugs that they are asked to simply ignore. If all of the above isn't
    bothersome, the user might be annoyed that the system slows down or
    becomes unstable because the system files managed to corrupt on their
    own requiring an SFC or DISM repair. If nothing else, people might get
    annoyed that their personal photos and videos get locked out because of
    some 0-day the company managed not to protect against or because of bit
    rot. At some point, people need to admit that such things are no longer
    acceptable in 2025 and move on.

    Eventually, the amount of compromises you need to make to use Windows
    outweighs the amount of sacrifices you make by moving away from it.

    And now it looks like Microsoft's Recall is back (after a backlash forced them to can it about a year ago). Supposedly yo have to "opt in" this time, but who trusts Microsoft to keep their word or not change the license agreement down the road?

    https://arstechnica.com/security/2025/04/microsoft-is-putting-privacy-endangering-recall-back-into-windows-11/

    I can imagine Recall being offered on machines which bundle a processor specifically to handle AI demands. However, anyone who doesn't purchase
    such a computer shouldn't be forced to have it running on their machine.
    Either way though, I'm with you: I don't believe that Microsoft will
    keep it disabled by default. I am convinced that they would rather slow
    down the machines of those who don't have such a processor and extract
    more private data than respect the wishes of their users. If there were
    ever a time to consider a migration to Linux, this would be it. Both
    Apple and Microsoft have demonstrated that their data collection is a
    higher priority than our privacy.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    LibreOffice supporter
    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to RonB on Thu Apr 17 08:52:22 2025
    On 2025-04-17 03:51, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-04-16 08:40, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-15, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-04-15 00:20, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 20:41:07 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    It's almost as though [Microsoft are] turning the [Windows] operating >>>>>> system into a beta.

    See my entire thread “Dimdows Decay Syndrome Continues”.

    I'm trying to be as objective as possible in referring to Windows, but >>>> the reality is that there are significant problems with continuing to
    use it even if you're sold on their product(s). Anyone with an AMD
    laptop is not going to have a satisfactory experience as a result of the >>>> fTPM stuttering. Anyone who buys movies and TV shows or subscribes to a >>>> streaming service and intends to watch content on an external monitor is >>>> not likely to be happy that the monitor shuts off as a protection
    against piracy. If the constant updates taking a long time don't bother >>>> the user, they might be annoyed that these updates introduce new folders >>>> or bugs that they are asked to simply ignore. If all of the above isn't >>>> bothersome, the user might be annoyed that the system slows down or
    becomes unstable because the system files managed to corrupt on their
    own requiring an SFC or DISM repair. If nothing else, people might get >>>> annoyed that their personal photos and videos get locked out because of >>>> some 0-day the company managed not to protect against or because of bit >>>> rot. At some point, people need to admit that such things are no longer >>>> acceptable in 2025 and move on.

    Eventually, the amount of compromises you need to make to use Windows
    outweighs the amount of sacrifices you make by moving away from it.

    And now it looks like Microsoft's Recall is back (after a backlash forced >>> them to can it about a year ago). Supposedly yo have to "opt in" this time, >>> but who trusts Microsoft to keep their word or not change the license
    agreement down the road?

    https://arstechnica.com/security/2025/04/microsoft-is-putting-privacy-endangering-recall-back-into-windows-11/

    I can imagine Recall being offered on machines which bundle a processor
    specifically to handle AI demands. However, anyone who doesn't purchase
    such a computer shouldn't be forced to have it running on their machine.
    Either way though, I'm with you: I don't believe that Microsoft will
    keep it disabled by default. I am convinced that they would rather slow
    down the machines of those who don't have such a processor and extract
    more private data than respect the wishes of their users. If there were
    ever a time to consider a migration to Linux, this would be it. Both
    Apple and Microsoft have demonstrated that their data collection is a
    higher priority than our privacy.

    Big Brother needs to be fed more and more information. Can't have "thought crimes" going unpunished.

    The worst part of this is that they will insist that our data, whether
    personal documents, photos or browsing history, be stored on their
    cloud. Meanwhile, to gather and keep that information, they will need to
    build humongous facilities necessitating their own power plants. With
    each nuclear facility they will build to accomplish that, they will only
    make their nations weaker since there will suddenly be so many more vulnerabilities for a foreign nation to target. To say the least, this
    won't end well. I can only hope that the people will rise up and reject
    this tyranny before any of that happens, but I have no faith in the
    people's ability to see obstacles three feet ahead of them.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    LibreOffice supporter
    John 14:6

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