• Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe

    From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to RonB on Thu Apr 17 09:02:53 2025
    On 2025-04-17 05:19, RonB wrote:
    Hungary makes it official: only two genders, end of debate

    The parliament in Hungary has passed a constitutional amendment recognizing only two genders — male and female. The decision was supported by 140 lawmakers, with 21 voting against and no abstentions.

    The revised constitution states:

    "Hungary protects marriage as a union between a man and a woman, and the
    family as the foundation of the nation. A person is either male or
    female. A father is a man, a mother is a woman."

    It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world. Britain's Supreme Court seems to have to made the same decision.

    This is great news, particularly for teachers who are caught up in this
    garbage and forced to refer to obvious females as boys or the opposite.
    If we don't play along, we can be forced to forfeit our positions.
    Luckily, I haven't had to face this much over the years.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 17 19:41:22 2025
    Le 17-04-2025, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> a écrit :
    It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world.

    It's amazing how some late people can't understand science. It's
    unsurprising you can believe that vaccine can be designed to kill
    people, which goes against common sense.

    For your information, I'm pretty sure, you won't believe/understand
    that: the ADN defines if someone is a man or a woman. So, someone is
    either: a woman if she has XX chromosomes and a man if he has XY
    chromosomes. But, the issue is: some people get different combinations.
    It looks like hard to believe but it's real. OK, woke people tend to say
    that almost no one is either XX or XY and other combinations are more
    well spread than they really are. But other combinations exist anyway,
    your common sense is just an impossibility to see reality as it is.

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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to RonB on Thu Apr 17 16:05:46 2025
    RonB wrote:

    Hungary makes it official: only two genders, end of debate

    The parliament in Hungary has passed a constitutional amendment recognizing >only two genders male and female. The decision was supported by 140 >lawmakers, with 21 voting against and no abstentions.

    The revised constitution states:

    "Hungary protects marriage as a union between a man and a woman, and the
    family as the foundation of the nation. A person is either male or
    female. A father is a man, a mother is a woman."

    Strange that it even needs to be spelled-out, eh?

    It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world. >Britain's Supreme Court seems to have to made the same decision.

    That's *really* amazing, since Britain's now a shithole where posting reasonable opinions online can get you arrested and jailed.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 17 17:48:35 2025
    On 4/17/25 15:41, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
    Le 17-04-2025, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> a écrit :
    It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world.

    It's amazing how some late people can't understand science. It's
    unsurprising you can believe that vaccine can be designed to kill
    people, which goes against common sense.

    Meanwhile, a few dozen thousands of people were hurt or maimed by the
    vaccine, even according to VAERS. That's only those who survived and
    managed to report; those who died suddenly didn't get such an honour.
    Stil, lett's all ignore our friends who had uteran cancer or
    myocarditis, our resident expert on everything under the sun is telling
    us we're wrong.

    < snip braindead government narrative communicated by Stéphane Carpentier >

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to chrisv on Thu Apr 17 17:49:35 2025
    On 4/17/25 17:05, chrisv wrote:
    RonB wrote:

    Hungary makes it official: only two genders, end of debate

    The parliament in Hungary has passed a constitutional amendment recognizing >> only two genders — male and female. The decision was supported by 140
    lawmakers, with 21 voting against and no abstentions.

    The revised constitution states:

    "Hungary protects marriage as a union between a man and a woman, and the >> family as the foundation of the nation. A person is either male or
    female. A father is a man, a mother is a woman."

    Strange that it even needs to be spelled-out, eh?

    It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world.
    Britain's Supreme Court seems to have to made the same decision.

    That's *really* amazing, since Britain's now a shithole where posting reasonable opinions online can get you arrested and jailed.

    +1

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to RonB on Thu Apr 17 20:46:09 2025
    On 4/17/25 19:09, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 4/17/25 15:41, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
    Le 17-04-2025, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> a écrit :
    It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world.

    It's amazing how some late people can't understand science. It's
    unsurprising you can believe that vaccine can be designed to kill
    people, which goes against common sense.

    Meanwhile, a few dozen thousands of people were hurt or maimed by the
    vaccine, even according to VAERS. That's only those who survived and
    managed to report; those who died suddenly didn't get such an honour.
    Stil, lett's all ignore our friends who had uteran cancer or
    myocarditis, our resident expert on everything under the sun is telling
    us we're wrong.

    < snip braindead government narrative communicated by Stéphane Carpentier >

    There has never been anything like the mass of reports in the VAERS system like the reports on this so-called mRNA "vaccine" compared to any other vaccine. Not even close. To deny this fact is to deny reality.
    (Unfortunately a lot of gullible idiots are quite capable of denying this obvious, scientific reality and the fact that it clearly shows the harm the covid mRNA "vaccines" have caused.)

    I encourage Stéphane Carpentier to take as many mRNA vaccines as he
    wishes, until his brain fog is so powerful that he and Larry
    Pietraskiewicz suddenly start thinking alike.

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to sc@fiat-linux.fr on Fri Apr 18 01:38:27 2025
    On 17 Apr 2025 19:41:22 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote
    in <68015962$0$417$426a74cc@news.free.fr>:

    Le 17-04-2025, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> a écrit :
    It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world.

    It's amazing how some late people can't understand science. It's
    unsurprising you can believe that vaccine can be designed to kill
    people, which goes against common sense.

    For your information, I'm pretty sure, you won't believe/understand
    that: the ADN defines if someone is a man or a woman. So, someone is
    either: a woman if she has XX chromosomes and a man if he has XY
    chromosomes. But, the issue is: some people get different combinations.
    It looks like hard to believe but it's real. OK, woke people tend to say
    that almost no one is either XX or XY and other combinations are more
    well spread than they really are. But other combinations exist anyway,
    your common sense is just an impossibility to see reality as it is.

    There are biological women with XY chromosomes that were born female,
    and didn't even know about the XY. Some have even carried babies
    to term.

    It happens. Do you feel threatened by that?

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to RonB on Thu Apr 17 21:36:14 2025
    RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2025-04-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 4/17/25 15:41, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
    Le 17-04-2025, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> a écrit :
    It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world.

    It's amazing how some late people can't understand science. It's
    unsurprising you can believe that vaccine can be designed to kill
    people, which goes against common sense.

    Meanwhile, a few dozen thousands of people were hurt or maimed by the
    vaccine, even according to VAERS. That's only those who survived and
    managed to report; those who died suddenly didn't get such an honour.
    Stil, lett's all ignore our friends who had uteran cancer or
    myocarditis, our resident expert on everything under the sun is telling
    us we're wrong.

    < snip braindead government narrative communicated by Stéphane Carpentier >

    There has never been anything like the mass of reports in the VAERS system like the reports on this so-called mRNA "vaccine" compared to any other vaccine. Not even close. To deny this fact is to deny reality.

    Yes, there were a ton more reports, for two basic reasons.

    First one was a pandemic itself, which killed 1.2 million Americans. This generated far more submissions by health professionals than a normal or bad
    flu season/year.

    Second was that VAERS became known by the public, and was hit with ton of malicious trolling & false reports which flooded the database.


    (Unfortunately a lot of gullible idiots are quite capable of denying this obvious, scientific reality and the fact that it clearly shows the harm the covid mRNA "vaccines" have caused.)

    Still claimed by the malicious trolls, yet still never medically
    substantiated.

    -hh

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Fri Apr 18 02:45:50 2025
    On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 19:25:18 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in <83ydnR8EDr-RJZz1nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    vallor wrote:
    On 17 Apr 2025 19:41:22 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
    wrote in <68015962$0$417$426a74cc@news.free.fr>:

    Le 17-04-2025, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> a écrit :
    It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world.

    It's amazing how some late people can't understand science. It's
    unsurprising you can believe that vaccine can be designed to kill
    people, which goes against common sense.

    For your information, I'm pretty sure, you won't believe/understand
    that: the ADN defines if someone is a man or a woman. So, someone is
    either: a woman if she has XX chromosomes and a man if he has XY
    chromosomes. But, the issue is: some people get different
    combinations. It looks like hard to believe but it's real. OK, woke
    people tend to say that almost no one is either XX or XY and other
    combinations are more well spread than they really are. But other
    combinations exist anyway, your common sense is just an impossibility
    to see reality as it is.

    There are biological women with XY chromosomes that were born female,
    and didn't even know about the XY. Some have even carried babies to
    term.

    It happens. Do you feel threatened by that?

    its a good thing you got linux so you can post in usenet

    I would daresay Usenet _runs_ on Linux. (Or maybe some BSD
    too, but mostly Linux.)

    It's a good thing you have an Open Source, Free Software client
    to post to Usenet, Windows-weenie. /s

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to -hh on Fri Apr 18 06:08:44 2025
    On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 21:36:14 -0500, -hh wrote:

    First one was a pandemic itself, which killed 1.2 million Americans.
    This generated far more submissions by health professionals than a
    normal or bad flu season/year.

    It as interesting that the mortality rate of the normal seasonal influenza essentially fell to zero.

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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 18 07:00:03 2025
    Stphane CARPENTIER wrote:

    It's amazing how some late people can't understand science. It's
    unsurprising you can believe that vaccine can be designed to kill
    people, which goes against common sense.

    They are _designed_ to make money. They often have beneficial effects
    along with the detrimental side-effects. I'm trying my best to avoid
    all those GD chemical concoctions that they are coming up with,
    including statins, which they want me to take to reduce my
    cholesterol. My plan is to stay thin and exercise, rather than pop a
    pill.

    I guess I won't know if I'm right or wrong until the day I drop
    dead...

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to chrisv on Fri Apr 18 10:09:32 2025
    On 4/18/25 08:00, chrisv wrote:
    Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

    It's amazing how some late people can't understand science. It's
    unsurprising you can believe that vaccine can be designed to kill
    people, which goes against common sense.

    They are _designed_ to make money. They often have beneficial effects
    along with the detrimental side-effects. I'm trying my best to avoid
    all those GD chemical concoctions that they are coming up with,
    including statins, which they want me to take to reduce my
    cholesterol. My plan is to stay thin and exercise, rather than pop a
    pill.

    I guess I won't know if I'm right or wrong until the day I drop
    dead...

    I used to work with a soccer coach who was given the same solution to
    his problem: take these pills and go home. He opted to work out instead.
    He was 66 or so when I met him, but he looked twenty years younger
    because he was buff. He couldn't see well, but he could probably
    outbench me.

    --
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    CrudeSausage
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    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 18 10:19:00 2025
    On 4/18/25 09:55, Sn!pe wrote:
    CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

    On 4/17/25 17:05, chrisv wrote:
    RonB wrote:

    Hungary makes it official: only two genders, end of debate

    The parliament in Hungary has passed a constitutional amendment recognizing
    only two genders — male and female. The decision was supported by 140 >>>> lawmakers, with 21 voting against and no abstentions.

    The revised constitution states:

    "Hungary protects marriage as a union between a man and a woman, and the
    family as the foundation of the nation. A person is either male or >>>> female. A father is a man, a mother is a woman."

    Strange that it even needs to be spelled-out, eh?

    It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world.
    Britain's Supreme Court seems to have to made the same decision.

    That's *really* amazing, since Britain's now a shithole where posting
    reasonable opinions online can get you arrested and jailed.

    +1

    Britain was infected with Wokism and de-platforming (shouting-down)
    by the USAliens. At last cooler heads are prevailing, not before time.

    There might be _signs_ that they're waking up to the woke disease, but
    Britain is much further down the rabbit hole than the United States
    could ever be. I don't see people being arrested for sharing a meme on
    this continent yet.

    --
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    CrudeSausage
    LibreOffice supporter
    John 14:6

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to chrisv on Fri Apr 18 18:15:56 2025
    On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 07:00:03 -0500, chrisv wrote:

    They are _designed_ to make money. They often have beneficial effects
    along with the detrimental side-effects. I'm trying my best to avoid
    all those GD chemical concoctions that they are coming up with,
    including statins, which they want me to take to reduce my cholesterol.
    My plan is to stay thin and exercise, rather than pop a pill.

    During my annual Medicare 'wellness' visit there is a evaluation form to determine if statins should be prescribed. My doctor says it is designed
    to recommend them regardless. Her take is if I really want them she will prescribe but my cholesterol is fine. Actually my HDL level is high enough
    to offset some of the negative evaluation factors.

    fwiw my normal day starts off with garlic, an onion, two eggs, and a slice
    of cheese fried in olive oil something that might give a cardiologist a
    heart attack.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to rbowman on Fri Apr 18 14:46:30 2025
    rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 21:36:14 -0500, -hh wrote:

    First one was a pandemic itself, which killed 1.2 million Americans.
    This generated far more submissions by health professionals than a
    normal or bad flu season/year.

    It as interesting that the mortality rate of the normal seasonal influenza essentially fell to zero.


    Yes, because I f what’s now known as”viral interference”.

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_interference>

    In a nutshell, not only do viruses evolve to counter our autoimmune
    systems, but they also have evolved to eliminate/interfere with other
    viruses within the host which are in competition with them.

    Classical case of “competitive advantage” that is an obvious strategy once one thinks about it … and finally identifies it, plus it is now being researched.

    -hh

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to RonB on Sat Apr 19 00:30:27 2025
    On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 20:34:54 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

    On 2025-04-18, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

    It's amazing how some late people can't understand science. It's >>>unsurprising you can believe that vaccine can be designed to kill
    people, which goes against common sense.

    They are _designed_ to make money. They often have beneficial effects
    along with the detrimental side-effects. I'm trying my best to avoid
    all those GD chemical concoctions that they are coming up with,
    including statins, which they want me to take to reduce my cholesterol.
    My plan is to stay thin and exercise, rather than pop a pill.

    I guess I won't know if I'm right or wrong until the day I drop dead...

    When I was a kid, if you were overweight doctors used to say, "eat less
    and excercise more" now they knee-jerk pimp for Big Pharma by saying
    "there's a pill for that." Which is healthier?

    When I was a kid or at least a teenager there was a pill for that,
    Biphetamine 20s aka Black Beauties. They were goooood shit!

    As far as I can tell Adderall is a very similar formulation so now you
    don't have to be overweight to get the good stuff.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 19 07:53:20 2025
    On 4/18/25 17:01, Sn!pe wrote:
    RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2025-04-18, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
    RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2025-04-17, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    RonB wrote:

    Hungary makes it official: only two genders, end of debate

    The parliament in Hungary has passed a constitutional amendment
    recognizing only two genders ? male and female. The decision was
    supported by 140 lawmakers, with 21 voting against and no
    abstentions.

    The revised constitution states:

    "Hungary protects marriage as a union between a man and a woman, >>>>>> and the family as the foundation of the nation. A person is either >>>>>> male or female. A father is a man, a mother is a woman."

    Strange that it even needs to be spelled-out, eh?

    It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world. >>>>>> Britain's Supreme Court seems to have to made the same decision.

    That's *really* amazing, since Britain's now a shithole where posting >>>>> reasonable opinions online can get you arrested and jailed.

    I'm pretty sure that, in Britain, they'll probably change the law. They're >>>> that far gone with this Woke stupidity.

    Have you been to Britain, RonB?

    Nope. But I can read.

    From where have you gained your information, RonB? Is it
    a trustworthy, authoritative and timely source of British news?

    The "trustworthy," "authoritative" sources we are encouraged to use by
    our respective government always lie by omission. Here in Canada, CBC
    routinely removes details, as do CTV, Global and even the local LCN. The
    only way you will really know what's going on is if you get your news
    through a combination of the mainstream garbage and independent sources.
    You always have to use the latter to confirm.

    If you only rely on traditional broadcast or print news, you will always
    be grossly misinformed. Look at Stéphane, for example, he's been
    convinced that a "vaccine" that caused my sister-in-law, my best friend
    and her co-worker to develop uteran cancer and need to have their
    reproductive system is _safe_. He's telling us that the injection that
    caused the cousin of my former brother-in-law and his wife to develop
    cancer is helpful. The pharmaceutical industry was definitely not
    responsible for my wife's subordinate developing myocarditis requiring
    her to stay in the hospital for week and half!

    With such a brilliant perspective, it should be no wonder why France is
    quickly turning into yet another Muslim caliphate.

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    CrudeSausage
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    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 19 07:56:44 2025
    On 4/18/25 17:18, % wrote:
    RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-18, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
    RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2025-04-18, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
    RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2025-04-17, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    RonB wrote:

    Hungary makes it official: only two genders, end of debate

    The parliament in Hungary has passed a constitutional amendment >>>>>>>> recognizing only two genders ? male and female. The decision was >>>>>>>> supported by 140 lawmakers, with 21 voting against and no
    abstentions.

    The revised constitution states:
       "Hungary protects marriage as a union between a man and a woman, >>>>>>>>    and the family as the foundation of the nation. A person is >>>>>>>> either
       male or female. A father is a man, a mother is a woman."

    Strange that it even needs to be spelled-out, eh?

    It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke >>>>>>>> world.
    Britain's Supreme Court seems to have to made the same decision. >>>>>>>
    That's *really* amazing, since Britain's now a shithole where
    posting
    reasonable opinions online can get you arrested and jailed.

    I'm pretty sure that, in Britain, they'll probably change the law. >>>>>> They're
    that far gone with this Woke stupidity.

    Have you been to Britain, RonB?

    Nope. But I can read.

     From where have you gained your information, RonB?  Is it
    a trustworthy, authoritative and timely source of British news?

    Are you going to deny that people have been jailed for posting memes in
    Britain? If so you better get hold of the British press and tell them,
    because they seem to be "confused" on the subject.

    no they don't

    <https://www.rebelnews.com/man_jailed_in_uk_for_posting_memes_of_george_floyd_in_whatsapp_facebook_group_chats>

    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3ej8zp4971o>

    <https://news.sky.com/story/police-officer-jailed-over-racist-whatsapp-memes-mocking-george-floyds-death-12633966>

    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy76dxkpjpjo>

    <https://www.hrla.org.au/uk_man_arrested_for_social_media_meme>

    Enjoy. Britain is now a shithole like Haiti.



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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to rbowman on Sat Apr 19 09:04:07 2025
    rbowman wrote:

    -hh wrote:

    First one was a pandemic itself, which killed 1.2 million Americans.
    This generated far more submissions by health professionals than a
    normal or bad flu season/year.

    Far less than the 2% that many (such as yourself, IIRC) predicted, and
    nearly all of them where very old and sick already.

    It as interesting that the mortality rate of the normal seasonal influenza >essentially fell to zero.

    The summary of what happened:

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/lab-leak-true-origins-of-covid-19/

    Download the full report (completed last year, BTW) here:

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/2024.12.04-SSCP-FINAL-REPORT-ANS.pdf

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 19 13:48:49 2025
    Le 19-04-2025, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> a écrit :
    Look at Stéphane, for example, he's been convinced that a "vaccine"
    that caused my sister-in-law, my best friend and her co-worker to
    develop uteran cancer and need to have their reproductive system is
    _safe_.

    You are the biggest liar I ever saw. First, I never said vaccine covid
    was safe. It would be stupid. The only safe medicine that exist is
    called a placebo. It's useless. So a vaccine have side effects, it's
    normal.

    Now, you have to know if the side effects are less important than the
    benefits. It's a difficult thing. It takes time. The covid was so well
    spread and impacted so many governments, they didn't had time to follow
    the safe rules. Did they do it properly or not? I don't know. Only your
    lies pretend I have well defined ideas about it.

    What I'm saying is: believing that covid vaccine was designed to kill
    people is just what a brain dead moron refusing basic logic can say. No
    one would want to kill his buyers because they would stop to buy their products. Even drug dealers who sell products that can kill their users
    don't want their users to die: that would be stupid. They know drugs
    can kill, but they hope their customers will take as many shoot as they
    can before dying. That just defy common sense to believe someone can win
    a lot of money (which the big pharma do) when selling a product designed
    to kill the people who gave them the money.

    So yours, and RonB's, claims about the possibility that vaccine could be designed to kill people is only shit used instead of brain. And when
    both of you spread crap about science like if they were facts, you can't
    ask me to believe most American guy don't shoot at tornadoes and don't
    believe the earth is flat. Of course, I know that American guys aren't
    as miss informed as you are. I know, too: you are a Canadian, not a US
    citizen, but you are the most US citizen brained guy of all the
    Canadians I've ever known. I'm sure you are waiting for Trump to invade
    Canada to become an American Citizen.

    For the cancer part, cancer takes a lot of time to grow. That's why
    cigarettes took time to be blamed about it. So if the covid vaccine
    caused cancer to develop either a lot of people (not three example you
    can relate because you want to, but really by millions, which would be
    seen by statistics) or it would be seen in decades.

    So what proof do you have that the three cancers examples you have were
    given by vaccine? It's not just because they were obvious, and maybe
    already there, when they took vaccine. It must be because no other
    reason was possible and without it they wouldn't develop cancer. Maybe
    they get cancer because they didn't pray that well and God gave them
    cancer? I have no clue why they get cancer, but I'm saying you have no
    proof it was given by vaccine.

    You want a reason for those cancers? That, I can understand, but it's
    not enough for you to be right. Sometimes people get cancer for no
    reason. That's sad but that's true. You want to blame someone and the
    pharma are easy to blame? I can understand that, too. But it's not
    enough to prove that vaccine is as dangerous as your claims. Billions of
    people had taken the vaccine, so if it was that dangerous, the earth
    population would have decreased. Which didn't happened, so you are wrong
    and it's the end of the story.

    So, believe what you want, I don't care but stop speaking about what I
    know, believe or say: you can't understand. Keep hopping you'll be able
    to kill everyone that's different from you is well enough.

    He's telling us that the injection that caused the cousin of my former brother-in-law and his wife to develop cancer is helpful.

    Another lie: I never said that. I'm saying that you have no proof about
    the covid vaccine being the reason for the cancer. I'm saying that if the
    covid vaccine was as dangerous as you said, it would let millions of
    people to die of it. Which isn't happening, so you are wrong.

    As a brain dead moron, you can't understand things are not either full
    black or full white. You are sure that vaccine is full wrong when I'm
    saying it's not as obvious as your claims. I'm not saying that
    everything is fine with the vaccine (it's just another one of your
    lies). I'm saying that believing that vaccine is designed to kill people
    is plain stupid defying common sense.

    With such a brilliant perspective, it should be no wonder why France is quickly turning into yet another Muslim caliphate.

    That's another subject. First: Twitter is still available in France, and
    it's the most important help to terrorists. If one can get rid of it, it
    will be easier to fight terrorism. Second: extremists in France, like
    democrats and republicans in USA, start to be more heard than in the
    past. And the communists pretend that terrorism doesn't exist when nazis pretend that terrorists are the only muslims that exist (like you in
    fact). So it can be confusing for a Canadian looking at life either
    withe or black, but reality in France is not as you describe it. It's to subtile for you being able to understand it. It's simpler to want to
    kill everyone.

    --
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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Sat Apr 19 09:11:39 2025
    CrudeSausage wrote:

    Sn!pe wrote:

    Britain was infected with Wokism and de-platforming (shouting-down)
    by the USAliens. At last cooler heads are prevailing, not before time.

    It's an exception to the rule, and in any case comes too late. They
    are *fucked*.

    There might be _signs_ that they're waking up to the woke disease, but >Britain is much further down the rabbit hole than the United States
    could ever be. I don't see people being arrested for sharing a meme on
    this continent yet.

    Whites are already a minority in London.

    (!)

    Those Muslims are going to out-breed the whites 4-to-1. It won't be
    more than a couple generations that England (of all places!) will be a
    black Muslim country!

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 19 13:14:39 2025
    On 4/19/25 09:36, Sn!pe wrote:
    CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

    On 4/18/25 17:01, Sn!pe wrote:
    RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2025-04-18, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
    RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2025-04-17, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    RonB wrote:

    Hungary makes it official: only two genders, end of debate

    The parliament in Hungary has passed a constitutional amendment >>>>>>>> recognizing only two genders ? male and female. The decision was >>>>>>>> supported by 140 lawmakers, with 21 voting against and no
    abstentions.

    The revised constitution states:

    "Hungary protects marriage as a union between a man and a woman, >>>>>>>> and the family as the foundation of the nation. A person is either >>>>>>>> male or female. A father is a man, a mother is a woman."

    Strange that it even needs to be spelled-out, eh?

    It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world. >>>>>>>> Britain's Supreme Court seems to have to made the same decision. >>>>>>>
    That's *really* amazing, since Britain's now a shithole where posting >>>>>>> reasonable opinions online can get you arrested and jailed.

    I'm pretty sure that, in Britain, they'll probably change the law. >>>>>> They're that far gone with this Woke stupidity.


    Have you been to Britain, RonB?


    Nope. But I can read.


    From where have you gained your information, RonB? Is it
    a trustworthy, authoritative and timely source of British news?


    The "trustworthy," "authoritative" sources we are encouraged to use by
    our respective government always lie by omission. Here in Canada, CBC
    routinely removes details, as do CTV, Global and even the local LCN. The
    only way you will really know what's going on is if you get your news through
    a combination of the mainstream garbage and independent sources.
    You always have to use the latter to confirm.


    I always take all my news with a big pinch of salt, not to say a
    cynical, distrusting approach. I form my opinions by gleaning
    information from as many independent sources as I can, giving
    due weight to their reputation for trustworthiness.

    IMHO "Rebelnews" does not inspire trust.

    I abhor bigotry.

    And I abhor cowards who worship at the alter of political correctness.

    < snip uninteresting perspective >

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    LibreOffice supporter
    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 19 13:13:52 2025
    On 4/19/25 09:36, Sn!pe wrote:
    CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    [...]
    It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke >>>>>>>>>> world. Britain's Supreme Court seems to have to made the same >>>>>>>>>> decision.

    That's *really* amazing, since Britain's now a shithole where >>>>>>>>> posting reasonable opinions online can get you arrested and
    jailed.

    I'm pretty sure that, in Britain, they'll probably change the law. >>>>>>>> They're that far gone with this Woke stupidity.

    Have you been to Britain, RonB?

    Nope. But I can read.

    From where have you gained your information, RonB? Is it
    a trustworthy, authoritative and timely source of British news?

    Are you going to deny that people have been jailed for posting memes in >>>> Britain? If so you better get hold of the British press and tell them, >>>> because they seem to be "confused" on the subject.

    no they don't


    <https://www.rebelnews.com/man_jailed_in_uk_for_posting_memes_of_george_floyd_in_whatsapp_facebook_group_chats>


    "A former West Mercia police officer has been jailed for 20 weeks for
    sharing 10 memes about George Floyd in a WhatsApp group chat and
    charged with "sending grossly offensive messages"."

    That's plain racist abuse, not "posting memes".

    Racism is a crime punishable with prison time? So much for free speech.

    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3ej8zp4971o>


    Incitement to riot is not just "posting memes".

    Believing in free speech includes the freedom to dislike a group of people.

    <https://news.sky.com/story/police-officer-jailed-over-racist-whatsapp-memes-mocking-george-floyds-death-12633966>


    Promoting racism is not just "posting memes".

    The point here is that freedom of speech does not exist and that people
    were being jailed for posting memes. Here you are moving the goal posts
    to say that it is okay for people to be jailed for "inciting hatred."
    The problem that you can't see is that "inciting hatred" is never
    defined and can be used as a motive to jail just about anyone.

    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy76dxkpjpjo>


    "Stirring up racial hatred on social media." is not just "posting
    memes".

    I get it, you don't believe in free speech. You are a coward who is all
    too willing to surrender at the altar of political correctness. Enjoy
    the superstate of Oceania.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    LibreOffice supporter
    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 19 13:15:34 2025
    On 4/19/25 09:48, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
    Le 19-04-2025, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> a écrit :
    Look at Stéphane, for example, he's been convinced that a "vaccine"
    that caused my sister-in-law, my best friend and her co-worker to
    develop uteran cancer and need to have their reproductive system is
    _safe_.

    < snipped, unread >

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    LibreOffice supporter
    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to chrisv on Sat Apr 19 13:46:24 2025
    On 4/19/25 10:11, chrisv wrote:
    CrudeSausage wrote:

    Sn!pe wrote:

    Britain was infected with Wokism and de-platforming (shouting-down)
    by the USAliens. At last cooler heads are prevailing, not before time.

    It's an exception to the rule, and in any case comes too late. They
    are *fucked*.

    Yep. I'm sure the Lebanese thought they could control the Muslims too
    before the civil war broke out.

    There might be _signs_ that they're waking up to the woke disease, but
    Britain is much further down the rabbit hole than the United States
    could ever be. I don't see people being arrested for sharing a meme on
    this continent yet.

    Whites are already a minority in London.

    (!)

    Those Muslims are going to out-breed the whites 4-to-1. It won't be
    more than a couple generations that England (of all places!) will be a
    black Muslim country!

    The best hope for whites is that their women won't marry and breed with
    the Muslims. However, they have a ton of their own who are ready to
    become baby-making factories. When you consider that white women
    _refuse_ to procreate or even get into relationships in some cases,
    there is no way that this is ending well. Before long, the only white
    countries left in the world will be Poland and Hungary.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    LibreOffice supporter
    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 19 13:47:48 2025
    On 4/19/25 13:26, Sn!pe wrote:
    CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

    [...]

    I always take all my news with a big pinch of salt, not to say a
    cynical, distrusting approach. I form my opinions by gleaning
    information from as many independent sources as I can, giving
    due weight to their reputation for trustworthiness.

    IMHO "Rebelnews" does not inspire trust.

    I abhor bigotry.


    And I abhor cowards who worship at the alter of political correctness.

    < snip uninteresting perspective >


    More rudeness. It's abundantly plain that your opinions are immovable
    so this exchange of views is at an end.

    You're right, there is no moving me. I refuse to compromise with people
    who are unwilling or unable to see three feet ahead of them.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    LibreOffice supporter
    John 14:6

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to RonB on Sat Apr 19 20:02:58 2025
    RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2025-04-18, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

    It's amazing how some late people can't understand science. It's
    unsurprising you can believe that vaccine can be designed to kill
    people, which goes against common sense.

    They are _designed_ to make money. They often have beneficial effects
    along with the detrimental side-effects. I'm trying my best to avoid
    all those GD chemical concoctions that they are coming up with,
    including statins, which they want me to take to reduce my
    cholesterol. My plan is to stay thin and exercise, rather than pop a
    pill.

    I guess I won't know if I'm right or wrong until the day I drop
    dead...

    When I was a kid, if you were overweight doctors used to say, "eat less and excercise more" now they knee-jerk pimp for Big Pharma by saying "there's a pill for that." Which is healthier?

    Find a better doctor. I’ve been working with mine for a decade to reduce cholesterol based risks … and that’s a challenge for some, as it is now known that a lot of it is genetically influenced. That’s why they ask about family history.

    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to chrisv on Sat Apr 19 19:54:55 2025
    chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    rbowman wrote:

    -hh wrote:

    First one was a pandemic itself, which killed 1.2 million Americans.
    This generated far more submissions by health professionals than a
    normal or bad flu season/year.

    Far less than the 2% that many (such as yourself, IIRC) predicted, and
    nearly all of them where very old and sick already.

    I’ll check on if it was a prediction, or just the topical estimate of worst case.

    Plus even though there was a mortality peak in older adults, one needs to
    watch one’s data: most of the medical costs were incurred by the less old who survived… and with a portion who still have ongoing health issues (& costs thereof) to this day.

    It as interesting that the mortality rate of the normal seasonal influenza >> essentially fell to zero.

    The summary of what happened:

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/lab-leak-true-origins-of-covid-19/

    That is propaganda.

    Download the full report (completed last year, BTW) here:

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/2024.12.04-SSCP-FINAL-REPORT-ANS.pdf

    More propaganda by a partisan GOP hack.

    Note just how thin … and chronically dubious … their explanation attempt is to disregard the Wet Markets as a vector - - all while also admitting that
    it was found there in humans. The attempt to write it completely off is predicated on not being able to find “the” infected animal weeks later, despite the whole purpose of the market is to distribute animals for sale there.

    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to snipeco.2@gmail.com on Sat Apr 19 20:04:42 2025
    Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
    RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2025-04-18, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
    RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2025-04-18, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
    RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2025-04-17, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    RonB wrote:
    [...]
    It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world. >>>>>>>> Britain's Supreme Court seems to have to made the same decision. >>>>>>>
    That's *really* amazing, since Britain's now a shithole where posting >>>>>>> reasonable opinions online can get you arrested and jailed.

    I'm pretty sure that, in Britain, they'll probably change the law. >>>>>> They're that far gone with this Woke stupidity.

    Have you been to Britain, RonB?

    Nope. But I can read.

    From where have you gained your information, RonB? Is it
    a trustworthy, authoritative and timely source of British news?

    Are you going to deny that people have been jailed for posting memes
    in Britain? If so you better get hold of the British press and tell them,
    because they seem to be "confused" on the subject.

    At this moment I am neither denying nor confirming anything.
    I asked you a question which you have not yet answered, RonB.

    Yeah, golly gee .. how about that?

    Seems that Ronny is afraid to look outside of his echo chamber.

    -hh

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to -hh on Sun Apr 20 05:02:42 2025
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 19:54:55 -0500, -hh wrote:

    chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    rbowman wrote:

    -hh wrote:

    First one was a pandemic itself, which killed 1.2 million Americans.
    This generated far more submissions by health professionals than a
    normal or bad flu season/year.

    Far less than the 2% that many (such as yourself, IIRC) predicted, and
    nearly all of them where very old and sick already.

    I’ll check on if it was a prediction, or just the topical estimate of
    worst case.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-research-f- idUSKBN21415L/


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8294439/ROSS-CLARK-Neil- Fergusons-lockdown-predictions-dodgy.html

    In the best Mail tradition it leads with a paragraph about Ferguson
    violating the lockdown for a booty call from a married woman but then
    documents Ferguson's prior claims that the sky was falling. His model was
    very popular at the start of the fiasco.

    A popular Monday morning quarterback ploy when you've fucked the dog
    royally is 'Oh no, that wasn't a prediction, it was a worse case
    scenario.'

    You might want to look up stories about Marion Correctional Institution in Ohio.

    https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/investigations/new-york-times-ohios- marion-correctional-institution-is-nations-largest-source-of-covid-19- infections/95-33650055-04f2-424d-82ae-9b91b2244236

    Between prisoners and staff over 2000 people tested positive for covid
    most of whom were asymptomatic. Even at the time it was hard to find
    follow-up stories after the 'everybody is going to die!' headlines but
    iirc there were under a dozen deaths.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 20 10:39:17 2025
    Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Le 19-04-2025, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> a écrit :
    Look at Stéphane, for example, he's been convinced that a "vaccine"
    that caused my sister-in-law, my best friend and her co-worker to
    develop uteran cancer and need to have their reproductive system is
    _safe_.

    You are the biggest liar I ever saw. First, I never said vaccine covid
    was safe. It would be stupid. The only safe medicine that exist is
    called a placebo. It's useless. So a vaccine have side effects, it's
    normal.

    <snip>

    Crood is trolling, to get a rise out of you. Silly-assed off-topic
    kiddie-shit. A familiar scent.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Hk8LXJCAM

    Trolling Linux Users Never Gets Old

    --
    MY income is ALL disposable!

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 20 15:26:25 2025
    On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 10:39:17 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote in <vu30ul$3va8n$6@dont-email.me>:

    Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Le 19-04-2025, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> a écrit :
    Look at Stéphane, for example, he's been convinced that a "vaccine"
    that caused my sister-in-law, my best friend and her co-worker to
    develop uteran cancer and need to have their reproductive system is
    _safe_.

    You are the biggest liar I ever saw. First, I never said vaccine covid
    was safe. It would be stupid. The only safe medicine that exist is
    called a placebo. It's useless. So a vaccine have side effects, it's
    normal.

    <snip>

    Crood is trolling, to get a rise out of you. Silly-assed off-topic kiddie-shit. A familiar scent.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Hk8LXJCAM

    Trolling Linux Users Never Gets Old

    I can troll non-Linux users by just posting the
    build info for my latest Linux kernel installation.

    --
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    OS: Linux 6.14.3 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
    "Never enter a battle of wits unarmed."

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to RonB on Mon Apr 21 07:50:18 2025
    On 4/21/25 00:40, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-19, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:

    <https://www.rebelnews.com/man_jailed_in_uk_for_posting_memes_of_george_floyd_in_whatsapp_facebook_group_chats>


    "A former West Mercia police officer has been jailed for 20 weeks for
    sharing 10 memes about George Floyd in a WhatsApp group chat and
    charged with "sending grossly offensive messages"."

    That's plain racist abuse, not "posting memes".

    Not like the "mostly peaceful" BLM riots, eh?

    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3ej8zp4971o>


    Incitement to riot is not just "posting memes".

    Even "mostly peaceful" riots where only a few people are killed or beaten, and only a few dozen buildings are burned down and only a few hundred shops are looted and vandalized? Are you TRYING to offend BLM because, you know, black lives matter. But it's "racist" to say "white lives matter," don't you know?

    <https://news.sky.com/story/police-officer-jailed-over-racist-whatsapp-memes-mocking-george-floyds-death-12633966>


    Promoting racism is not just "posting memes".

    And burning, looting, beating and murder are not racist if they're done
    under the flag of "BLM." They're just "mostly peaceful" protests.

    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy76dxkpjpjo>


    "Stirring up racial hatred on social media." is not just "posting
    memes".

    I hope you're not speaking about the racist BLM. Those racists don't like to be called racists. You could lose your Woke card and be summarily canceled — maybe even jailed for racism.

    Better trod carefully when speaking out against "mostly peaceful" riots. Be sure you know who's ox is being gored. Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between a "mostly peaceful" protest and a riot, don't you know.

    It sounds to me like Snipe left because he realized that he wasn't in an
    echo chamber where everyone is forced to agree with his stupidity or get
    banned (or doxxed). I hope he enjoys the choir of BlueSky.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    LibreOffice supporter
    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to RonB on Mon Apr 21 21:04:30 2025
    On 4/21/25 17:52, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-21, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 4/21/25 00:40, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-19, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:

    <https://www.rebelnews.com/man_jailed_in_uk_for_posting_memes_of_george_floyd_in_whatsapp_facebook_group_chats>


    "A former West Mercia police officer has been jailed for 20 weeks for
    sharing 10 memes about George Floyd in a WhatsApp group chat and
    charged with "sending grossly offensive messages"."

    That's plain racist abuse, not "posting memes".

    Not like the "mostly peaceful" BLM riots, eh?

    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3ej8zp4971o>


    Incitement to riot is not just "posting memes".

    Even "mostly peaceful" riots where only a few people are killed or beaten, >>> and only a few dozen buildings are burned down and only a few hundred shops >>> are looted and vandalized? Are you TRYING to offend BLM because, you know, >>> black lives matter. But it's "racist" to say "white lives matter," don't you
    know?

    <https://news.sky.com/story/police-officer-jailed-over-racist-whatsapp-memes-mocking-george-floyds-death-12633966>


    Promoting racism is not just "posting memes".

    And burning, looting, beating and murder are not racist if they're done
    under the flag of "BLM." They're just "mostly peaceful" protests.

    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy76dxkpjpjo>


    "Stirring up racial hatred on social media." is not just "posting
    memes".

    I hope you're not speaking about the racist BLM. Those racists don't like to
    be called racists. You could lose your Woke card and be summarily canceled >>> — maybe even jailed for racism.

    Better trod carefully when speaking out against "mostly peaceful" riots. Be >>> sure you know who's ox is being gored. Sometimes it's hard to tell the
    difference between a "mostly peaceful" protest and a riot, don't you know. >>
    It sounds to me like Snipe left because he realized that he wasn't in an
    echo chamber where everyone is forced to agree with his stupidity or get
    banned (or doxxed). I hope he enjoys the choir of BlueSky.

    I'm not in favor of riots. They are, by their nature, not "mostly peaceful." But I've got a feeling that Snipe opposed them (or not) depending on who was doing the "mostly peaceful protesting."

    I used to want to talk to people with opposing opinions and see if we
    have common ground somewhere, but with my older age I've lost all
    interest because they never make any kind of sense. It's the same thing
    with Muslims and their near total, purposeful misunderstanding of the
    Christian religion to further their own. If Snipe doesn't like that we
    have a different opinion, he's free to join Larry Pietraskiewicz in that abandoned linux group he once tried to get us to migrate to.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    LibreOffice supporter
    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to RonB on Tue Apr 22 08:51:50 2025
    On 2025-04-22 02:05, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 4/21/25 17:52, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-21, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 4/21/25 00:40, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-19, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:

    <https://www.rebelnews.com/man_jailed_in_uk_for_posting_memes_of_george_floyd_in_whatsapp_facebook_group_chats>


    "A former West Mercia police officer has been jailed for 20 weeks for >>>>>> sharing 10 memes about George Floyd in a WhatsApp group chat and >>>>>> charged with "sending grossly offensive messages"."

    That's plain racist abuse, not "posting memes".

    Not like the "mostly peaceful" BLM riots, eh?

    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3ej8zp4971o>


    Incitement to riot is not just "posting memes".

    Even "mostly peaceful" riots where only a few people are killed or beaten,
    and only a few dozen buildings are burned down and only a few hundred shops
    are looted and vandalized? Are you TRYING to offend BLM because, you know,
    black lives matter. But it's "racist" to say "white lives matter," don't you
    know?

    <https://news.sky.com/story/police-officer-jailed-over-racist-whatsapp-memes-mocking-george-floyds-death-12633966>


    Promoting racism is not just "posting memes".

    And burning, looting, beating and murder are not racist if they're done >>>>> under the flag of "BLM." They're just "mostly peaceful" protests.

    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy76dxkpjpjo>


    "Stirring up racial hatred on social media." is not just "posting
    memes".

    I hope you're not speaking about the racist BLM. Those racists don't like to
    be called racists. You could lose your Woke card and be summarily canceled
    — maybe even jailed for racism.

    Better trod carefully when speaking out against "mostly peaceful" riots. Be
    sure you know who's ox is being gored. Sometimes it's hard to tell the >>>>> difference between a "mostly peaceful" protest and a riot, don't you know.

    It sounds to me like Snipe left because he realized that he wasn't in an >>>> echo chamber where everyone is forced to agree with his stupidity or get >>>> banned (or doxxed). I hope he enjoys the choir of BlueSky.

    I'm not in favor of riots. They are, by their nature, not "mostly peaceful."
    But I've got a feeling that Snipe opposed them (or not) depending on who was
    doing the "mostly peaceful protesting."

    I used to want to talk to people with opposing opinions and see if we
    have common ground somewhere, but with my older age I've lost all
    interest because they never make any kind of sense. It's the same thing
    with Muslims and their near total, purposeful misunderstanding of the
    Christian religion to further their own. If Snipe doesn't like that we
    have a different opinion, he's free to join Larry Pietraskiewicz in that
    abandoned linux group he once tried to get us to migrate to.

    The days of disagreeing but still getting along are long gone. The Woke cancel culture is for immediate dismissal of the person who disagrees with them. If they can cancel, they cancel, if they can't cancel they retreat.
    Any time you disagree with one of these Woke whiners, they call you a
    "hater" for taking a contrary position and arguing with them. This is what cults do, these are not the actions of reasonable people.

    My family was always an arguing family. We would argue politics, even religion, and ten minutes the argument was forgotten. I've never understood cliquish cult mentality. I've never wanted to be part of a clique.

    This morning, I actually discovered that my old high school buddy, who
    went from working as a Director of Engineering at Microsoft to doing the
    same at Google, actually left the corporation recently to start work at
    some AI company called Snowflake. I can imagine what would prompt a
    person to leave a lucrative, comfortable position at Google, but I
    imagine that a Coptic Christian whose father escaped a position as
    doctor in Egypt because of Muslim bullying to come to Montreal and work
    at The Bay could see the writing on the wall. The guy probably just
    wanted to do his job and create some new technology, but faggots kept
    talking about their genders, privilege, white supremacy, how black lives matter, how Israel is participating in genocide and so on. If I were
    still speaking to him, I'd congratulate him for jumping off the sinking
    ship of wokeness.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    LibreOffice supporter
    John 14:6

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to RonB on Wed Apr 23 07:45:24 2025
    On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 05:12:58 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

    NutYahoo in Israel IS genocidal. You can't call it much else when they
    carpet bomb women and children trapped in Gaza, and don't allow food and health supplies in.

    It pisses me off that has turned into a binary choice where saying
    anything critical about Netanyahu or the IDF is equated to being a left
    wing Hamas lover. I can't think of a worst choice than Huckabee.

    https://forward.com/opinion/675457/mike-huckabee-christian-zionism-israel- evangelical/

    The Forward is left wing but they know a Christian Zionist when they see
    one.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to RonB on Wed Apr 23 08:43:23 2025
    On 2025-04-23 01:12, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-04-22 02:05, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 4/21/25 17:52, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-21, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 4/21/25 00:40, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-19, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:

    <https://www.rebelnews.com/man_jailed_in_uk_for_posting_memes_of_george_floyd_in_whatsapp_facebook_group_chats>


    "A former West Mercia police officer has been jailed for 20 weeks for >>>>>>>> sharing 10 memes about George Floyd in a WhatsApp group chat and >>>>>>>> charged with "sending grossly offensive messages"."

    That's plain racist abuse, not "posting memes".

    Not like the "mostly peaceful" BLM riots, eh?

    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3ej8zp4971o>


    Incitement to riot is not just "posting memes".

    Even "mostly peaceful" riots where only a few people are killed or beaten,
    and only a few dozen buildings are burned down and only a few hundred shops
    are looted and vandalized? Are you TRYING to offend BLM because, you know,
    black lives matter. But it's "racist" to say "white lives matter," don't you
    know?

    <https://news.sky.com/story/police-officer-jailed-over-racist-whatsapp-memes-mocking-george-floyds-death-12633966>


    Promoting racism is not just "posting memes".

    And burning, looting, beating and murder are not racist if they're done >>>>>>> under the flag of "BLM." They're just "mostly peaceful" protests. >>>>>>>
    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy76dxkpjpjo>


    "Stirring up racial hatred on social media." is not just "posting >>>>>>>> memes".

    I hope you're not speaking about the racist BLM. Those racists don't like to
    be called racists. You could lose your Woke card and be summarily canceled
    — maybe even jailed for racism.

    Better trod carefully when speaking out against "mostly peaceful" riots. Be
    sure you know who's ox is being gored. Sometimes it's hard to tell the >>>>>>> difference between a "mostly peaceful" protest and a riot, don't you know.

    It sounds to me like Snipe left because he realized that he wasn't in an >>>>>> echo chamber where everyone is forced to agree with his stupidity or get >>>>>> banned (or doxxed). I hope he enjoys the choir of BlueSky.

    I'm not in favor of riots. They are, by their nature, not "mostly peaceful."
    But I've got a feeling that Snipe opposed them (or not) depending on who was
    doing the "mostly peaceful protesting."

    I used to want to talk to people with opposing opinions and see if we
    have common ground somewhere, but with my older age I've lost all
    interest because they never make any kind of sense. It's the same thing >>>> with Muslims and their near total, purposeful misunderstanding of the
    Christian religion to further their own. If Snipe doesn't like that we >>>> have a different opinion, he's free to join Larry Pietraskiewicz in that >>>> abandoned linux group he once tried to get us to migrate to.

    The days of disagreeing but still getting along are long gone. The Woke
    cancel culture is for immediate dismissal of the person who disagrees with >>> them. If they can cancel, they cancel, if they can't cancel they retreat. >>> Any time you disagree with one of these Woke whiners, they call you a
    "hater" for taking a contrary position and arguing with them. This is what >>> cults do, these are not the actions of reasonable people.

    My family was always an arguing family. We would argue politics, even
    religion, and ten minutes the argument was forgotten. I've never understood >>> cliquish cult mentality. I've never wanted to be part of a clique.

    This morning, I actually discovered that my old high school buddy, who
    went from working as a Director of Engineering at Microsoft to doing the
    same at Google, actually left the corporation recently to start work at
    some AI company called Snowflake. I can imagine what would prompt a
    person to leave a lucrative, comfortable position at Google, but I
    imagine that a Coptic Christian whose father escaped a position as
    doctor in Egypt because of Muslim bullying to come to Montreal and work
    at The Bay could see the writing on the wall. The guy probably just
    wanted to do his job and create some new technology, but faggots kept
    talking about their genders, privilege, white supremacy, how black lives
    matter, how Israel is participating in genocide and so on. If I were
    still speaking to him, I'd congratulate him for jumping off the sinking
    ship of wokeness.

    NutYahoo in Israel IS genocidal. You can't call it much else when they
    carpet bomb women and children trapped in Gaza, and don't allow food and health supplies in.

    Other than that, yeah.

    I'm sure that a lot of what Israel is doing is not by the book. However,
    having spent a lot of time with Muslims, I know how sneaky they are.
    Whenever there is any kind of altercation, they will claim to be
    victims. You can actually spot them committing a crime and they will say
    that the crime was committed against them. If you have a mountain of
    evidence against them, their first instinct is to manipulate and make a
    deal. There is no possibility of self-reflection whatsoever in that
    community. That's why I am convinced that a lot of the stories we get
    about how the Gazans are victims are also manipulated to make them look
    like victims.

    If any of you have had only limited interaction with Muslims, I would
    suggest you watch videos from YouTube where Christians, armed with loads
    of evidence about the Koran's contradictions and lies, interrupt, talk
    over and attack people demonstrating that Islam is a religion of
    bullshit. It is like they've been trained since birth to wage taqiyya
    against anyone who points out their many flaws.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    LibreOffice supporter
    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to RonB on Thu Apr 24 09:09:41 2025
    On 2025-04-24 08:58, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-23, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-04-23 01:12, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-04-22 02:05, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 4/21/25 17:52, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-21, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 4/21/25 00:40, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-19, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:

    <https://www.rebelnews.com/man_jailed_in_uk_for_posting_memes_of_george_floyd_in_whatsapp_facebook_group_chats>


    "A former West Mercia police officer has been jailed for 20 weeks for
    sharing 10 memes about George Floyd in a WhatsApp group chat and
    charged with "sending grossly offensive messages"."

    That's plain racist abuse, not "posting memes".

    Not like the "mostly peaceful" BLM riots, eh?

    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3ej8zp4971o>


    Incitement to riot is not just "posting memes".

    Even "mostly peaceful" riots where only a few people are killed or beaten,
    and only a few dozen buildings are burned down and only a few hundred shops
    are looted and vandalized? Are you TRYING to offend BLM because, you know,
    black lives matter. But it's "racist" to say "white lives matter," don't you
    know?

    <https://news.sky.com/story/police-officer-jailed-over-racist-whatsapp-memes-mocking-george-floyds-death-12633966>


    Promoting racism is not just "posting memes".

    And burning, looting, beating and murder are not racist if they're done
    under the flag of "BLM." They're just "mostly peaceful" protests. >>>>>>>>>
    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy76dxkpjpjo>


    "Stirring up racial hatred on social media." is not just "posting >>>>>>>>>> memes".

    I hope you're not speaking about the racist BLM. Those racists don't like to
    be called racists. You could lose your Woke card and be summarily canceled
    — maybe even jailed for racism.

    Better trod carefully when speaking out against "mostly peaceful" riots. Be
    sure you know who's ox is being gored. Sometimes it's hard to tell the
    difference between a "mostly peaceful" protest and a riot, don't you know.

    It sounds to me like Snipe left because he realized that he wasn't in an
    echo chamber where everyone is forced to agree with his stupidity or get
    banned (or doxxed). I hope he enjoys the choir of BlueSky.

    I'm not in favor of riots. They are, by their nature, not "mostly peaceful."
    But I've got a feeling that Snipe opposed them (or not) depending on who was
    doing the "mostly peaceful protesting."

    I used to want to talk to people with opposing opinions and see if we >>>>>> have common ground somewhere, but with my older age I've lost all
    interest because they never make any kind of sense. It's the same thing >>>>>> with Muslims and their near total, purposeful misunderstanding of the >>>>>> Christian religion to further their own. If Snipe doesn't like that we >>>>>> have a different opinion, he's free to join Larry Pietraskiewicz in that >>>>>> abandoned linux group he once tried to get us to migrate to.

    The days of disagreeing but still getting along are long gone. The Woke >>>>> cancel culture is for immediate dismissal of the person who disagrees with
    them. If they can cancel, they cancel, if they can't cancel they retreat. >>>>> Any time you disagree with one of these Woke whiners, they call you a >>>>> "hater" for taking a contrary position and arguing with them. This is what
    cults do, these are not the actions of reasonable people.

    My family was always an arguing family. We would argue politics, even >>>>> religion, and ten minutes the argument was forgotten. I've never understood
    cliquish cult mentality. I've never wanted to be part of a clique.

    This morning, I actually discovered that my old high school buddy, who >>>> went from working as a Director of Engineering at Microsoft to doing the >>>> same at Google, actually left the corporation recently to start work at >>>> some AI company called Snowflake. I can imagine what would prompt a
    person to leave a lucrative, comfortable position at Google, but I
    imagine that a Coptic Christian whose father escaped a position as
    doctor in Egypt because of Muslim bullying to come to Montreal and work >>>> at The Bay could see the writing on the wall. The guy probably just
    wanted to do his job and create some new technology, but faggots kept
    talking about their genders, privilege, white supremacy, how black lives >>>> matter, how Israel is participating in genocide and so on. If I were
    still speaking to him, I'd congratulate him for jumping off the sinking >>>> ship of wokeness.

    NutYahoo in Israel IS genocidal. You can't call it much else when they
    carpet bomb women and children trapped in Gaza, and don't allow food and >>> health supplies in.

    Other than that, yeah.

    I'm sure that a lot of what Israel is doing is not by the book. However,
    having spent a lot of time with Muslims, I know how sneaky they are.
    Whenever there is any kind of altercation, they will claim to be
    victims. You can actually spot them committing a crime and they will say
    that the crime was committed against them. If you have a mountain of
    evidence against them, their first instinct is to manipulate and make a
    deal. There is no possibility of self-reflection whatsoever in that
    community. That's why I am convinced that a lot of the stories we get
    about how the Gazans are victims are also manipulated to make them look
    like victims.

    If any of you have had only limited interaction with Muslims, I would
    suggest you watch videos from YouTube where Christians, armed with loads
    of evidence about the Koran's contradictions and lies, interrupt, talk
    over and attack people demonstrating that Islam is a religion of
    bullshit. It is like they've been trained since birth to wage taqiyya
    against anyone who points out their many flaws.

    I think "not by the book" is letting them off with genocide with a light tap on the wrist. These sons of bitches in Israel have been murdering Palestinians for over 70 years. Even before this latest war, they regularly "mowed the grass" (their term) in Gaza about every three years. By "mowing the grass" they meant arbitrarily bombing civilians, men, women and
    children. One of their more infamous bombings was during the hour of the day when children were walking home from school. The bastards in the Israeli government are satanic.

    Palestine was not always Muslim. The Christians that lived there have pretty much been eradicated, The ones that remain are spit on by the Orthodox Jews. Before the Israeli terrorist thugs made Israel a "state" they're the ones
    who were bombing buses and homes and they stole these homes from the Palestinians.

    Buying into this "fake news" narrative about the genocide is to fall for Israeli propaganda. These damn bastards actually call children "terrorists." Peace will only come to the Middle East when the Israeli government is eradicated.

    Before the Israeli terrorists agitated for and created their Zionist
    "state," Jews, Christians and Muslims lived in Palestine in peace with one another.

    NutYahoo is doing his best to destroy Israel. I hope he soon complete the job.

    For my part, I don't really care about either side. Israel doesn't care
    about Christians unless they need money or people to fight for them.
    Similarly, Muslims don't care about us and would be glad to kill us
    and/or rape out wives. There is a chance that Christians and Muslims
    lived in peace, but I have a lot of trouble believing that narrative considering what their scripture says about how we should be treated.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    LibreOffice supporter
    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to RonB on Thu Apr 24 21:33:42 2025
    On 4/24/25 21:22, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-24, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-04-24 08:58, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-23, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-04-23 01:12, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-04-22 02:05, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 4/21/25 17:52, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-21, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 4/21/25 00:40, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-19, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:

    <https://www.rebelnews.com/man_jailed_in_uk_for_posting_memes_of_george_floyd_in_whatsapp_facebook_group_chats>


    "A former West Mercia police officer has been jailed for 20 weeks for
    sharing 10 memes about George Floyd in a WhatsApp group chat and
    charged with "sending grossly offensive messages"." >>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's plain racist abuse, not "posting memes".

    Not like the "mostly peaceful" BLM riots, eh?

    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3ej8zp4971o>


    Incitement to riot is not just "posting memes".

    Even "mostly peaceful" riots where only a few people are killed or beaten,
    and only a few dozen buildings are burned down and only a few hundred shops
    are looted and vandalized? Are you TRYING to offend BLM because, you know,
    black lives matter. But it's "racist" to say "white lives matter," don't you
    know?

    <https://news.sky.com/story/police-officer-jailed-over-racist-whatsapp-memes-mocking-george-floyds-death-12633966>


    Promoting racism is not just "posting memes".

    And burning, looting, beating and murder are not racist if they're done
    under the flag of "BLM." They're just "mostly peaceful" protests. >>>>>>>>>>>
    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy76dxkpjpjo>


    "Stirring up racial hatred on social media." is not just "posting >>>>>>>>>>>> memes".

    I hope you're not speaking about the racist BLM. Those racists don't like to
    be called racists. You could lose your Woke card and be summarily canceled
    — maybe even jailed for racism.

    Better trod carefully when speaking out against "mostly peaceful" riots. Be
    sure you know who's ox is being gored. Sometimes it's hard to tell the
    difference between a "mostly peaceful" protest and a riot, don't you know.

    It sounds to me like Snipe left because he realized that he wasn't in an
    echo chamber where everyone is forced to agree with his stupidity or get
    banned (or doxxed). I hope he enjoys the choir of BlueSky.

    I'm not in favor of riots. They are, by their nature, not "mostly peaceful."
    But I've got a feeling that Snipe opposed them (or not) depending on who was
    doing the "mostly peaceful protesting."

    I used to want to talk to people with opposing opinions and see if we >>>>>>>> have common ground somewhere, but with my older age I've lost all >>>>>>>> interest because they never make any kind of sense. It's the same thing
    with Muslims and their near total, purposeful misunderstanding of the >>>>>>>> Christian religion to further their own. If Snipe doesn't like that we >>>>>>>> have a different opinion, he's free to join Larry Pietraskiewicz in that
    abandoned linux group he once tried to get us to migrate to.

    The days of disagreeing but still getting along are long gone. The Woke >>>>>>> cancel culture is for immediate dismissal of the person who disagrees with
    them. If they can cancel, they cancel, if they can't cancel they retreat.
    Any time you disagree with one of these Woke whiners, they call you a >>>>>>> "hater" for taking a contrary position and arguing with them. This is what
    cults do, these are not the actions of reasonable people.

    My family was always an arguing family. We would argue politics, even >>>>>>> religion, and ten minutes the argument was forgotten. I've never understood
    cliquish cult mentality. I've never wanted to be part of a clique. >>>>>>
    This morning, I actually discovered that my old high school buddy, who >>>>>> went from working as a Director of Engineering at Microsoft to doing the >>>>>> same at Google, actually left the corporation recently to start work at >>>>>> some AI company called Snowflake. I can imagine what would prompt a >>>>>> person to leave a lucrative, comfortable position at Google, but I >>>>>> imagine that a Coptic Christian whose father escaped a position as >>>>>> doctor in Egypt because of Muslim bullying to come to Montreal and work >>>>>> at The Bay could see the writing on the wall. The guy probably just >>>>>> wanted to do his job and create some new technology, but faggots kept >>>>>> talking about their genders, privilege, white supremacy, how black lives >>>>>> matter, how Israel is participating in genocide and so on. If I were >>>>>> still speaking to him, I'd congratulate him for jumping off the sinking >>>>>> ship of wokeness.

    NutYahoo in Israel IS genocidal. You can't call it much else when they >>>>> carpet bomb women and children trapped in Gaza, and don't allow food and >>>>> health supplies in.

    Other than that, yeah.

    I'm sure that a lot of what Israel is doing is not by the book. However, >>>> having spent a lot of time with Muslims, I know how sneaky they are.
    Whenever there is any kind of altercation, they will claim to be
    victims. You can actually spot them committing a crime and they will say >>>> that the crime was committed against them. If you have a mountain of
    evidence against them, their first instinct is to manipulate and make a >>>> deal. There is no possibility of self-reflection whatsoever in that
    community. That's why I am convinced that a lot of the stories we get
    about how the Gazans are victims are also manipulated to make them look >>>> like victims.

    If any of you have had only limited interaction with Muslims, I would
    suggest you watch videos from YouTube where Christians, armed with loads >>>> of evidence about the Koran's contradictions and lies, interrupt, talk >>>> over and attack people demonstrating that Islam is a religion of
    bullshit. It is like they've been trained since birth to wage taqiyya
    against anyone who points out their many flaws.

    I think "not by the book" is letting them off with genocide with a light tap
    on the wrist. These sons of bitches in Israel have been murdering
    Palestinians for over 70 years. Even before this latest war, they regularly >>> "mowed the grass" (their term) in Gaza about every three years. By "mowing >>> the grass" they meant arbitrarily bombing civilians, men, women and
    children. One of their more infamous bombings was during the hour of the day
    when children were walking home from school. The bastards in the Israeli >>> government are satanic.

    Palestine was not always Muslim. The Christians that lived there have pretty
    much been eradicated, The ones that remain are spit on by the Orthodox Jews.
    Before the Israeli terrorist thugs made Israel a "state" they're the ones >>> who were bombing buses and homes and they stole these homes from the
    Palestinians.

    Buying into this "fake news" narrative about the genocide is to fall for >>> Israeli propaganda. These damn bastards actually call children "terrorists."
    Peace will only come to the Middle East when the Israeli government is
    eradicated.

    Before the Israeli terrorists agitated for and created their Zionist
    "state," Jews, Christians and Muslims lived in Palestine in peace with one >>> another.

    NutYahoo is doing his best to destroy Israel. I hope he soon complete the >>> job.

    For my part, I don't really care about either side. Israel doesn't care
    about Christians unless they need money or people to fight for them.
    Similarly, Muslims don't care about us and would be glad to kill us
    and/or rape out wives. There is a chance that Christians and Muslims
    lived in peace, but I have a lot of trouble believing that narrative
    considering what their scripture says about how we should be treated.

    As for Palestine pre-Israel, you don't have to go by narrative you just have to go by history.

    I'm aware of the history. Weren't different factions fighting for
    control of that territory before the British gave it away? Wouldn't that suggest that they were at odds and therefore not peaceful?

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Fri Apr 25 05:34:41 2025
    On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 21:33:42 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    I'm aware of the history. Weren't different factions fighting for
    control of that territory before the British gave it away? Wouldn't that suggest that they were at odds and therefore not peaceful?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tel_Hai

    There was a very small Jewish population during the time the Ottoman
    Empire controlled the are. Meanwhile the Brits were giving it to the
    Arabs, French, and Jews sequentially. If you want to know why the area is
    so screwed up look at perfidious Albion.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

    Britain originally tried to give the Jews Uganda, but, no, it had to be
    the real estate mentioned in their tribal legends.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to rbowman on Fri Apr 25 09:26:10 2025
    On 2025-04-25 01:34, rbowman wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 21:33:42 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    I'm aware of the history. Weren't different factions fighting for
    control of that territory before the British gave it away? Wouldn't that
    suggest that they were at odds and therefore not peaceful?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tel_Hai

    There was a very small Jewish population during the time the Ottoman
    Empire controlled the are. Meanwhile the Brits were giving it to the
    Arabs, French, and Jews sequentially. If you want to know why the area is
    so screwed up look at perfidious Albion.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

    Britain originally tried to give the Jews Uganda, but, no, it had to be
    the real estate mentioned in their tribal legends.

    I'm sure they would have done a much better job of running Uganda than
    Idi Amin did.

    --
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    CrudeSausage
    LibreOffice supporter
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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 25 09:25:00 2025
    On 2025-04-24 23:00, % wrote:
    RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-24, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-04-24 08:58, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-23, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-04-23 01:12, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-04-22 02:05, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 4/21/25 17:52, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-21, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 4/21/25 00:40, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-19, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:

    <https://www.rebelnews.com/
    man_jailed_in_uk_for_posting_memes_of_george_floyd_in_whatsapp_facebook_group_chats>


    "A former West Mercia police officer has been jailed for 20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks for
           sharing 10 memes about George Floyd in a WhatsApp >>>>>>>>>>>>> group chat and
           charged with "sending grossly offensive messages"." >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's plain racist abuse, not "posting memes".

    Not like the "mostly peaceful" BLM riots, eh?

    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3ej8zp4971o>


    Incitement to riot is not just "posting memes".

    Even "mostly peaceful" riots where only a few people are >>>>>>>>>>>> killed or beaten,
    and only a few dozen buildings are burned down and only a >>>>>>>>>>>> few hundred shops
    are looted and vandalized? Are you TRYING to offend BLM >>>>>>>>>>>> because, you know,
    black lives matter. But it's "racist" to say "white lives >>>>>>>>>>>> matter," don't you
    know?

    <https://news.sky.com/story/police-officer-jailed-over- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> racist-whatsapp-memes-mocking-george-floyds-death-12633966> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Promoting racism is not just "posting memes".

    And burning, looting, beating and murder are not racist if >>>>>>>>>>>> they're done
    under the flag of "BLM." They're just "mostly peaceful" >>>>>>>>>>>> protests.

    <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy76dxkpjpjo>


    "Stirring up racial hatred on social media." is not just >>>>>>>>>>>>> "posting
    memes".

    I hope you're not speaking about the racist BLM. Those >>>>>>>>>>>> racists don't like to
    be called racists. You could lose your Woke card and be >>>>>>>>>>>> summarily canceled
    — maybe even jailed for racism.

    Better trod carefully when speaking out against "mostly >>>>>>>>>>>> peaceful" riots. Be
    sure you know who's ox is being gored. Sometimes it's hard >>>>>>>>>>>> to tell the
    difference between a "mostly peaceful" protest and a riot, >>>>>>>>>>>> don't you know.

    It sounds to me like Snipe left because he realized that he >>>>>>>>>>> wasn't in an
    echo chamber where everyone is forced to agree with his
    stupidity or get
    banned (or doxxed). I hope he enjoys the choir of BlueSky. >>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not in favor of riots. They are, by their nature, not
    "mostly peaceful."
    But I've got a feeling that Snipe opposed them (or not)
    depending on who was
    doing the "mostly peaceful protesting."

    I used to want to talk to people with opposing opinions and see >>>>>>>>> if we
    have common ground somewhere, but with my older age I've lost all >>>>>>>>> interest because they never make any kind of sense. It's the >>>>>>>>> same thing
    with Muslims and their near total, purposeful misunderstanding >>>>>>>>> of the
    Christian religion to further their own. If Snipe doesn't like >>>>>>>>> that we
    have a different opinion, he's free to join Larry
    Pietraskiewicz in that
    abandoned linux group he once tried to get us to migrate to.

    The days of disagreeing but still getting along are long gone. >>>>>>>> The Woke
    cancel culture is for immediate dismissal of the person who
    disagrees with
    them. If they can cancel, they cancel, if they can't cancel they >>>>>>>> retreat.
    Any time you disagree with one of these Woke whiners, they call >>>>>>>> you a
    "hater" for taking a contrary position and arguing with them.
    This is what
    cults do, these are not the actions of reasonable people.

    My family was always an arguing family. We would argue politics, >>>>>>>> even
    religion, and ten minutes the argument was forgotten. I've never >>>>>>>> understood
    cliquish cult mentality. I've never wanted to be part of a clique. >>>>>>>
    This morning, I actually discovered that my old high school
    buddy, who
    went from working as a Director of Engineering at Microsoft to
    doing the
    same at Google, actually left the corporation recently to start
    work at
    some AI company called Snowflake. I can imagine what would prompt a >>>>>>> person to leave a lucrative, comfortable position at Google, but I >>>>>>> imagine that a Coptic Christian whose father escaped a position as >>>>>>> doctor in Egypt because of Muslim bullying to come to Montreal
    and work
    at The Bay could see the writing on the wall. The guy probably just >>>>>>> wanted to do his job and create some new technology, but faggots >>>>>>> kept
    talking about their genders, privilege, white supremacy, how
    black lives
    matter, how Israel is participating in genocide and so on. If I were >>>>>>> still speaking to him, I'd congratulate him for jumping off the
    sinking
    ship of wokeness.

    NutYahoo in Israel IS genocidal. You can't call it much else when
    they
    carpet bomb women and children trapped in Gaza, and don't allow
    food and
    health supplies in.

    Other than that, yeah.

    I'm sure that a lot of what Israel is doing is not by the book.
    However,
    having spent a lot of time with Muslims, I know how sneaky they are. >>>>> Whenever there is any kind of altercation, they will claim to be
    victims. You can actually spot them committing a crime and they
    will say
    that the crime was committed against them. If you have a mountain of >>>>> evidence against them, their first instinct is to manipulate and
    make a
    deal. There is no possibility of self-reflection whatsoever in that
    community. That's why I am convinced that a lot of the stories we get >>>>> about how the Gazans are victims are also manipulated to make them
    look
    like victims.

    If any of you have had only limited interaction with Muslims, I would >>>>> suggest you watch videos from YouTube where Christians, armed with
    loads
    of evidence about the Koran's contradictions and lies, interrupt, talk >>>>> over and attack people demonstrating that Islam is a religion of
    bullshit. It is like they've been trained since birth to wage taqiyya >>>>> against anyone who points out their many flaws.

    I think "not by the book" is letting them off with genocide with a
    light tap
    on the wrist. These sons of bitches in Israel have been murdering
    Palestinians for over 70 years. Even before this latest war, they
    regularly
    "mowed the grass" (their term) in Gaza about every three years. By
    "mowing
    the grass" they meant arbitrarily bombing civilians, men, women and
    children. One of their more infamous bombings was during the hour of
    the day
    when children were walking home from school. The bastards in the
    Israeli
    government are satanic.

    Palestine was not always Muslim. The Christians that lived there
    have pretty
    much been eradicated, The ones that remain are spit on by the
    Orthodox Jews.
    Before the Israeli terrorist thugs made Israel a "state" they're the
    ones
    who were bombing buses and homes and they stole these homes from the
    Palestinians.

    Buying into this "fake news" narrative about the genocide is to fall
    for
    Israeli propaganda. These damn bastards actually call children
    "terrorists."
    Peace will only come to the Middle East when the Israeli government is >>>> eradicated.

    Before the Israeli terrorists agitated for and created their Zionist
    "state," Jews, Christians and Muslims lived in Palestine in peace
    with one
    another.

    NutYahoo is doing his best to destroy Israel. I hope he soon
    complete the
    job.

    For my part, I don't really care about either side. Israel doesn't care
    about Christians unless they need money or people to fight for them.
    Similarly, Muslims don't care about us and would be glad to kill us
    and/or rape out wives. There is a chance that Christians and Muslims
    lived in peace, but I have a lot of trouble believing that narrative
    considering what their scripture says about how we should be treated.

    As for Palestine pre-Israel, you don't have to go by narrative you
    just have
    to go by history.

    i only go by american history it's the funniest

    It's definitely the one where there is the most action. Andrew "Action"
    Jackson is my favourite.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to RonB on Sat Apr 26 08:08:06 2025
    On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 02:35:07 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

    Yeah, they were called Zionist terrorists (the gangs who bombed the
    buses, etc.). And that began happening shortly before the British gave
    them the Zionist state by stealing it from the Palestinians. It was the beginning of the terrorist state called Israel, not reflected in the centuries before that the terrorists began Zionist terrorist campaign.

    I doubt they would make the movie today but in the 1960 'Exodus' Sal Mineo plays Dov Landau who is recruited into the Irgun. Landau is a bomb maker
    who participates in the bombing of the King David Hotel that killed 91
    people.

    There is a funny scene where Ari Ben Canaan, played by Paul Newman, is masquerading as a British officer to steal supplies from a British depot.
    Peter Lawford is a British major who informs Ben Canaan he can smell a Jew
    a mile away while the Jews make off with his supplies.

    IRL, after 1948 Irgun was folded into the IDF and the leader of the
    terrorist organization, Begin, eventually became the prime minister of
    Israel.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to RonB on Sat Apr 26 07:41:52 2025
    On 4/25/25 22:37, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-25, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-04-25 01:34, rbowman wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 21:33:42 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    I'm aware of the history. Weren't different factions fighting for
    control of that territory before the British gave it away? Wouldn't that >>>> suggest that they were at odds and therefore not peaceful?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tel_Hai

    There was a very small Jewish population during the time the Ottoman
    Empire controlled the are. Meanwhile the Brits were giving it to the
    Arabs, French, and Jews sequentially. If you want to know why the area is >>> so screwed up look at perfidious Albion.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

    Britain originally tried to give the Jews Uganda, but, no, it had to be
    the real estate mentioned in their tribal legends.

    I'm sure they would have done a much better job of running Uganda than
    Idi Amin did.

    I doubt it. They would have probably emptied the country by selling the population as slaves. The Jews were the main slave traders during U.S. Colonial days. A fact not mentioned often.

    But it is one that I like to bring up whenever someone wants to blame
    white people for the errors of the past.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 26 12:40:52 2025
    Le 26-04-2025, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> a écrit :

    However, I've seen how Muslims deal with debates
    on religion and how much respect they offer to people who think
    differently.

    Yep and I see how church deals with protecting pedophiles among its
    members. So, you want to claim all Muslims are terrorist, it's like my
    saying that all catholics priests are pedophiles. And I'm closer to
    the truth than you are. Then now, when Ronb says I know nothing about
    Americans when I claim that they believe the world is flat, I hope my
    FAI provider will show me his answer to your bullshit.

    I know, you hope your next pope will be more pedophile than woke, so I
    don't really care about your answer. What I'd like to know is how he can
    deal with stupid generalities on one side when that suit his claims.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 26 08:58:58 2025
    On 4/26/25 08:40, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
    Le 26-04-2025, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> a écrit :

    However, I've seen how Muslims deal with debates
    on religion and how much respect they offer to people who think
    differently.

    Yep and I see how church deals with protecting pedophiles among its
    members. So, you want to claim all Muslims are terrorist, it's like my
    saying that all catholics priests are pedophiles. And I'm closer to
    the truth than you are. Then now, when Ronb says I know nothing about Americans when I claim that they believe the world is flat, I hope my
    FAI provider will show me his answer to your bullshit.

    I know, you hope your next pope will be more pedophile than woke, so I
    don't really care about your answer. What I'd like to know is how he can
    deal with stupid generalities on one side when that suit his claims.

    While there are pedophiles who claim to be Christians, the Holy Bible
    does not endorse their desires. Those Muslims who are pedophiles are not
    only allowed to be so by the Koran, but they can point to the fact that
    the example they are supposed to follow, Muhammad, himself had sex with
    a nine-year-old. Therefore, Christianity does not allow for pedophilia
    despite the actions of those claiming to be devout or representing the
    faith whereas Islam not only allows but encourages pedophilia.

    --
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 27 08:01:09 2025
    Le 27-04-2025, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> a écrit :
    On 2025-04-26, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
    Le 26-04-2025, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> a écrit :

    However, I've seen how Muslims deal with debates
    on religion and how much respect they offer to people who think
    differently.

    Yep and I see how church deals with protecting pedophiles among its
    members. So, you want to claim all Muslims are terrorist, it's like my
    saying that all catholics priests are pedophiles. And I'm closer to
    the truth than you are. Then now, when Ronb says I know nothing about
    Americans when I claim that they believe the world is flat, I hope my
    FAI provider will show me his answer to your bullshit.

    I know, you hope your next pope will be more pedophile than woke, so I
    don't really care about your answer. What I'd like to know is how he can
    deal with stupid generalities on one side when that suit his claims.

    You're so full of crap it oozes out your gill slits. Another "tolerant" Woke moron,

    Thanks.

    so long as we agree with you 100% when you're spewing your lying
    bullshit.

    Nope. Unlike you I don't see the world as either black or white without anything in between. For me there are not either the Nazis or the Wokes.
    There are a lot of possibilities.

    Take a guess how much rape (of women and children) has increased in Europe after opening their door to millions of Muslims. Look at the murder rate in Sweden (formally a peaceful country) after mass immigration of Muslims. (Now has a thirty times higher rate of murder than London which, itself, is no picnic.) In Sweden, if a woman reports being raped by an immigrant, she's
    may face jail time for being a "racist."

    OK, I've my answer. That's what I guessed.

    Europe is suicidally insane. Your traitorous leaders have done a great job
    of turning their citizen's brains into Woke mush. Congratulations.

    Yep: Musk and Trump are far better. Paying foreign countries to put US
    citizens who did nothing in their jails is far better.

    I note you capitalize "Muslim" but use lower case for "Catholic." Figures.

    You shouldn't. It's a typo. Unlike the word "Catholic", the word
    "Muslim" isn't spelled the same in French and in English. So when I
    forget to capitalize the word "Muslim", it shows but not when I forget
    to capitalize "Catholic".

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to RonB on Sun Apr 27 08:14:01 2025
    On Sun, 27 Apr 2025 05:55:53 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

    On 2025-04-26, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 02:35:07 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

    Yeah, they were called Zionist terrorists (the gangs who bombed the
    buses, etc.). And that began happening shortly before the British gave
    them the Zionist state by stealing it from the Palestinians. It was
    the beginning of the terrorist state called Israel, not reflected in
    the centuries before that the terrorists began Zionist terrorist
    campaign.

    I doubt they would make the movie today but in the 1960 'Exodus' Sal
    Mineo plays Dov Landau who is recruited into the Irgun. Landau is a
    bomb maker who participates in the bombing of the King David Hotel that
    killed 91 people.

    There is a funny scene where Ari Ben Canaan, played by Paul Newman, is
    masquerading as a British officer to steal supplies from a British
    depot. Peter Lawford is a British major who informs Ben Canaan he can
    smell a Jew a mile away while the Jews make off with his supplies.

    IRL, after 1948 Irgun was folded into the IDF and the leader of the
    terrorist organization, Begin, eventually became the prime minister of
    Israel.

    I didn't realize this film existed. Before my time, I guess.

    If you can find it it's worth watching. Leon Uris wrote the book and was supposed to write the screenplay. Uris was very anti-Brit and anti-Arab so Preminger fired him and hired Dalton Trumbo. Trumbo had been a popular
    screen writer in the '40s but was a member of the CPUSA. During the HUAC
    years he spent time in prison for contempt of court and was blacklisted in Hollywood. He did some screen plays that he was not credited with but
    'Exodus' was the first where he was openly acknowledged as the writer.

    The 'Theme from Exodus' was an instrumental and charted #2 on Billboard

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT3-mOHqva8


    Pat Boone wrote lyrics

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTYCoIyLZlw

    Boone is a good little goy.

    https://www.jpost.com/omg/pat-boones-gift-to-israel-556574

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to RonB on Sun Apr 27 14:37:32 2025
    On 4/27/25 02:13, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-26, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 4/25/25 22:35, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-25, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 4/24/25 21:22, RonB wrote:

    As for Palestine pre-Israel, you don't have to go by narrative you just have
    to go by history.

    I'm aware of the history. Weren't different factions fighting for
    control of that territory before the British gave it away? Wouldn't that >>>> suggest that they were at odds and therefore not peaceful?

    Yeah, they were called Zionist terrorists (the gangs who bombed the buses, >>> etc.). And that began happening shortly before the British gave them the >>> Zionist state by stealing it from the Palestinians. It was the beginning of >>> the terrorist state called Israel, not reflected in the centuries before >>> that the terrorists began Zionist terrorist campaign.

    That might be the case. However, I've seen how Muslims deal with debates
    on religion and how much respect they offer to people who think
    differently. To say the least, they are very violent. It's not normal
    that I wouldn't be able to analyze a song with my students because
    Muhammad in the corner was told that music is haram and will get violent
    if I play it. It's not normal that I can't watch a show with the kids
    because Muhammad Jr. in the corner thinks two characters kissing is
    haram and will get violent if I show it. It's not normal that I
    constantly have to worry about the crucifix I wear showing because
    Muhammad the Third in the corner was taught that Jesus didn't really die
    on the cross and will get violent if he sees it. The reality is that it
    is impossible to live peacefully with them because every value we have
    and every sign we display is offensive to them.

    Christians in Israel face the same kind of issues with the Orthodox Jews
    (and the IDF). They're spit on and their churches are shuttered on Christian holy days.

    I'm not a Muslim and I don't like a lot of their crap, but you've got to remember, it was the Palestinians who were driven out of their homes and businesses and were driven into refugee camps. These homes and businesses were given to the Jews (simply because they were Jews) who streamed in from all over the world.

    Europe (and the U.S. and Canada) are doing something similar by moving illegal aliens (many Muslim) to the front of the line for benefits while the native citizens stand at the back of the line and watch. I know you already resent this, but how much more would you resent having your home confiscated from you and given to an illegal alien? (Probably a Muslim.)

    That's what happened to the Palestinians. Gaza is basically an open air prison. And American Jews "vacation" in Israel by burning down orchards and destroying homes while backed by the IDF on the West Bank. They then claim the property for their own. There's only so much of that crap that anyone
    can take.

    So, while I don't like the Muslim religion, I can understand what drives their hatred for the Israelis. Under similar circumstances you would
    probably be a "terrorist" as well. (As if carpet bombing civilians, and denying them food, water and medicine is not the act of terrorist and genocidal state.)

    The Gazans have a reason to hate Jews, but they would have hated them regardless of whether anything had been done to them. Heck, the entire
    religion advocates for a hatred of both Christians and Jews, the latter
    of which was on the pretense that they had persecuted Muhammad. Of
    course, no evidence of this exists outside the Koran. Heck, in most
    reports within the Koran, it is said that the Muslims were treated well
    by the Jewish hosts. Of course, it doesn't matter how well you were
    treated once you have an army much larger than that of your hosts.

    This is a pattern we constantly see with Muslim: peaceful until they
    have the numbers.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 27 18:46:07 2025
    On 27 Apr 2025 08:01:09 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

    Yep: Musk and Trump are far better. Paying foreign countries to put US citizens who did nothing in their jails is far better.

    Which innocent US citizens are those? The famous 'Maryland Man' is a
    citizen of El Salvador.

    The talking point of the day is a 2 year old US citizen who was deported
    to Honduras. The facts are the mother and sister were in the country
    illegally and chose to take the kid with them, understandably. The 2 year
    old is free to return at any time.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 27 14:46:51 2025
    On 4/27/25 04:01, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

    < snip >

    I note you capitalize "Muslim" but use lower case for "Catholic." Figures.

    You shouldn't. It's a typo. Unlike the word "Catholic", the word
    "Muslim" isn't spelled the same in French and in English. So when I
    forget to capitalize the word "Muslim", it shows but not when I forget
    to capitalize "Catholic".

    A terrible excuse. You could have just pointed out that "musulman" and "catholique," both of which are spelled differently in French than in
    English, aren't capitalized when the terms are used as adjective in French.

    --
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    LibreOffice supporter
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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Mon Apr 28 03:25:33 2025
    On Sun, 27 Apr 2025 14:37:32 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    The Gazans have a reason to hate Jews, but they would have hated them regardless of whether anything had been done to them. Heck, the entire religion advocates for a hatred of both Christians and Jews, the latter
    of which was on the pretense that they had persecuted Muhammad.

    It wasn't a bed of roses but arguably the Jews did better under the
    Moslems in al-Andalus than in Christian Europe during the same period.
    Earlier the Visigoths had no use for Jews and after the Reconquista
    maranos were treated with suspicion and in 1492 Columbus and practicing
    Jews left. (separate events although some claim Columbus had a Jew
    onboard) Spain was more or less Judenrein until 1968 after Vatican II published 'Nostra aetate' saying Jews weren't really Christ-killers.

    Likewise the Ottoman Empire had its up and downs but many Jews relocated
    there from Christian controlled areas.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to RonB on Mon Apr 28 07:20:40 2025
    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 06:39:41 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

    There are different Muslim sects. Some are much less aggressive than
    others.
    The Shiites, for example, aren't usually the "head choppers," that's
    nearly always the Sunnis. Guess which ones the U.S. cuddles up to?

    Jews in Iran, for example, are not persecuted so long as they identify
    as Iranians and not Zionists (Israelis). Iran is a Shiite country.

    To further complicate it, Arabs are a small minority in Iran and
    frequently persecuted. Iran inherited what was called Arabistan from the Ottoman Empire and it's been a thorn in their side. The Persians are an Indo-European people, or what was called Aryan before some unfortunate
    20th century events. They don't like Arabs, who are a Semitic people.

    It's like one of those logic statements. Most Arabs are Moslems but most Moslems aren't Arabs. The Arabs seem to be the least civilized.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to rbowman on Mon Apr 28 08:24:31 2025
    rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 06:39:41 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

    There are different Muslim sects. Some are much less aggressive than
    others.
    The Shiites, for example, aren't usually the "head choppers," that's
    nearly always the Sunnis. Guess which ones the U.S. cuddles up to?

    Jews in Iran, for example, are not persecuted so long as they identify
    as Iranians and not Zionists (Israelis). Iran is a Shiite country.

    To further complicate it, Arabs are a small minority in Iran and
    frequently persecuted. Iran inherited what was called Arabistan from the Ottoman Empire and it's been a thorn in their side. The Persians are an Indo-European people, or what was called Aryan before some unfortunate
    20th century events. They don't like Arabs, who are a Semitic people.

    It's like one of those logic statements. Most Arabs are Moslems but most Moslems aren't Arabs. The Arabs seem to be the least civilized.

    Can you speak to their usage of Linux? :-)

    --
    Ask not for whom the <CONTROL-G> tolls.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to rbowman on Mon Apr 28 08:36:01 2025
    On 2025-04-27 23:25, rbowman wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Apr 2025 14:37:32 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    The Gazans have a reason to hate Jews, but they would have hated them
    regardless of whether anything had been done to them. Heck, the entire
    religion advocates for a hatred of both Christians and Jews, the latter
    of which was on the pretense that they had persecuted Muhammad.

    It wasn't a bed of roses but arguably the Jews did better under the
    Moslems in al-Andalus than in Christian Europe during the same period. Earlier the Visigoths had no use for Jews and after the Reconquista
    maranos were treated with suspicion and in 1492 Columbus and practicing
    Jews left. (separate events although some claim Columbus had a Jew
    onboard) Spain was more or less Judenrein until 1968 after Vatican II published 'Nostra aetate' saying Jews weren't really Christ-killers.

    Likewise the Ottoman Empire had its up and downs but many Jews relocated there from Christian controlled areas.

    I'm aware. There are some excellent videos on YouTube about the
    Reconquista which explain why and how the royals in Spain expelled or
    force converted anyone who wasn't Catholic. I'd feel bad except that
    when Spain was turned into a caliphate, they had force converted
    everyone there to Islam as well.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    LibreOffice supporter
    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to RonB on Mon Apr 28 08:43:13 2025
    On 2025-04-28 02:39, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-27, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 4/27/25 02:13, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-26, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 4/25/25 22:35, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-25, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 4/24/25 21:22, RonB wrote:

    As for Palestine pre-Israel, you don't have to go by narrative you just have
    to go by history.

    I'm aware of the history. Weren't different factions fighting for
    control of that territory before the British gave it away? Wouldn't that >>>>>> suggest that they were at odds and therefore not peaceful?

    Yeah, they were called Zionist terrorists (the gangs who bombed the buses,
    etc.). And that began happening shortly before the British gave them the >>>>> Zionist state by stealing it from the Palestinians. It was the beginning of
    the terrorist state called Israel, not reflected in the centuries before >>>>> that the terrorists began Zionist terrorist campaign.

    That might be the case. However, I've seen how Muslims deal with debates >>>> on religion and how much respect they offer to people who think
    differently. To say the least, they are very violent. It's not normal
    that I wouldn't be able to analyze a song with my students because
    Muhammad in the corner was told that music is haram and will get violent >>>> if I play it. It's not normal that I can't watch a show with the kids
    because Muhammad Jr. in the corner thinks two characters kissing is
    haram and will get violent if I show it. It's not normal that I
    constantly have to worry about the crucifix I wear showing because
    Muhammad the Third in the corner was taught that Jesus didn't really die >>>> on the cross and will get violent if he sees it. The reality is that it >>>> is impossible to live peacefully with them because every value we have >>>> and every sign we display is offensive to them.

    Christians in Israel face the same kind of issues with the Orthodox Jews >>> (and the IDF). They're spit on and their churches are shuttered on Christian
    holy days.

    I'm not a Muslim and I don't like a lot of their crap, but you've got to >>> remember, it was the Palestinians who were driven out of their homes and >>> businesses and were driven into refugee camps. These homes and businesses >>> were given to the Jews (simply because they were Jews) who streamed in from >>> all over the world.

    Europe (and the U.S. and Canada) are doing something similar by moving
    illegal aliens (many Muslim) to the front of the line for benefits while the
    native citizens stand at the back of the line and watch. I know you already >>> resent this, but how much more would you resent having your home confiscated
    from you and given to an illegal alien? (Probably a Muslim.)

    That's what happened to the Palestinians. Gaza is basically an open air
    prison. And American Jews "vacation" in Israel by burning down orchards and >>> destroying homes while backed by the IDF on the West Bank. They then claim >>> the property for their own. There's only so much of that crap that anyone >>> can take.

    So, while I don't like the Muslim religion, I can understand what drives >>> their hatred for the Israelis. Under similar circumstances you would
    probably be a "terrorist" as well. (As if carpet bombing civilians, and
    denying them food, water and medicine is not the act of terrorist and
    genocidal state.)

    The Gazans have a reason to hate Jews, but they would have hated them
    regardless of whether anything had been done to them. Heck, the entire
    religion advocates for a hatred of both Christians and Jews, the latter
    of which was on the pretense that they had persecuted Muhammad. Of
    course, no evidence of this exists outside the Koran. Heck, in most
    reports within the Koran, it is said that the Muslims were treated well
    by the Jewish hosts. Of course, it doesn't matter how well you were
    treated once you have an army much larger than that of your hosts.

    This is a pattern we constantly see with Muslim: peaceful until they
    have the numbers.

    There are different Muslim sects. Some are much less aggressive than others. The Shiites, for example, aren't usually the "head choppers," that's nearly always the Sunnis. Guess which ones the U.S. cuddles up to?

    The ones with money located in Saudi Arabia. I find it abhorrent how the
    United States works with the country in everything. Heck, even
    professional wrestling has events there on a regular basis. However,
    Muslims in Saudi Arabia and Iran are apparently converting to
    Christianity in large numbers. The story is the same in Iran except that
    the number of converts there is a lot larger. Perhaps their exposure to
    Western media and content plays a part? Apparently, much of it is due to
    the fact that the Internet is now available to Muslims, and they can
    easily discover that their "faith" is a work of bad plagiarism filled
    with contradictions and lies. Perhaps exposure to Western content also
    played a part.

    Jews in Iran, for example, are not persecuted so long as they identify as Iranians and not Zionists (Israelis). Iran is a Shiite country.

    I hope that is the case.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    LibreOffice supporter
    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to RonB on Mon Apr 28 08:52:12 2025
    On 2025-04-28 08:23, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-28, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 06:39:41 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

    There are different Muslim sects. Some are much less aggressive than
    others.
    The Shiites, for example, aren't usually the "head choppers," that's
    nearly always the Sunnis. Guess which ones the U.S. cuddles up to?

    Jews in Iran, for example, are not persecuted so long as they identify
    as Iranians and not Zionists (Israelis). Iran is a Shiite country.

    To further complicate it, Arabs are a small minority in Iran and
    frequently persecuted. Iran inherited what was called Arabistan from the
    Ottoman Empire and it's been a thorn in their side. The Persians are an
    Indo-European people, or what was called Aryan before some unfortunate
    20th century events. They don't like Arabs, who are a Semitic people.

    It's like one of those logic statements. Most Arabs are Moslems but most
    Moslems aren't Arabs. The Arabs seem to be the least civilized.

    I keep trying to tell people that the Iranians are not Arabs. They don't
    turn on each on each like the Arabs do in time of war.

    For what it's worth, my wife's best friend married an Iranian who was a
    pretty nice person. Similarly, a former Polish co-worker of mine married
    an Iranian man and he was wonderful to her. It should be noted that most Iranians don't actually support their government and are a lot more
    Western than they seem.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    LibreOffice supporter
    John 14:6

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Mon Apr 28 18:33:28 2025
    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 08:24:31 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 06:39:41 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

    There are different Muslim sects. Some are much less aggressive than
    others.
    The Shiites, for example, aren't usually the "head choppers," that's
    nearly always the Sunnis. Guess which ones the U.S. cuddles up to?

    Jews in Iran, for example, are not persecuted so long as they identify
    as Iranians and not Zionists (Israelis). Iran is a Shiite country.

    To further complicate it, Arabs are a small minority in Iran and
    frequently persecuted. Iran inherited what was called Arabistan from
    the Ottoman Empire and it's been a thorn in their side. The Persians
    are an Indo-European people, or what was called Aryan before some
    unfortunate 20th century events. They don't like Arabs, who are a
    Semitic people.

    It's like one of those logic statements. Most Arabs are Moslems but
    most Moslems aren't Arabs. The Arabs seem to be the least civilized.

    Can you speak to their usage of Linux? :-)

    https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7318

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Mon Apr 28 18:40:13 2025
    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 08:43:13 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    Apparently, much of it is due to the fact that the Internet is now
    available to Muslims, and they can easily discover that their "faith" is
    a work of bad plagiarism filled with contradictions and lies. Perhaps exposure to Western content also played a part.

    Apparently exposure to the internet hasn't hindered the LDS church.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/View_of_the_Hebrews

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to rbowman on Mon Apr 28 16:37:20 2025
    On 2025-04-28 14:40, rbowman wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 08:43:13 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    Apparently, much of it is due to the fact that the Internet is now
    available to Muslims, and they can easily discover that their "faith" is
    a work of bad plagiarism filled with contradictions and lies. Perhaps
    exposure to Western content also played a part.

    Apparently exposure to the internet hasn't hindered the LDS church.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/View_of_the_Hebrews

    I think they just enjoy the fact that they can have a number of wives
    and don't want to admit that it's all garbage.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    LibreOffice supporter
    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to RonB on Mon Apr 28 16:42:36 2025
    On 2025-04-28 15:46, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-28, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-04-28 08:23, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-28, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 06:39:41 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

    There are different Muslim sects. Some are much less aggressive than >>>>> others.
    The Shiites, for example, aren't usually the "head choppers," that's >>>>> nearly always the Sunnis. Guess which ones the U.S. cuddles up to?

    Jews in Iran, for example, are not persecuted so long as they identify >>>>> as Iranians and not Zionists (Israelis). Iran is a Shiite country.

    To further complicate it, Arabs are a small minority in Iran and
    frequently persecuted. Iran inherited what was called Arabistan from the >>>> Ottoman Empire and it's been a thorn in their side. The Persians are an >>>> Indo-European people, or what was called Aryan before some unfortunate >>>> 20th century events. They don't like Arabs, who are a Semitic people.

    It's like one of those logic statements. Most Arabs are Moslems but most >>>> Moslems aren't Arabs. The Arabs seem to be the least civilized.

    I keep trying to tell people that the Iranians are not Arabs. They don't >>> turn on each on each like the Arabs do in time of war.

    For what it's worth, my wife's best friend married an Iranian who was a
    pretty nice person. Similarly, a former Polish co-worker of mine married
    an Iranian man and he was wonderful to her. It should be noted that most
    Iranians don't actually support their government and are a lot more
    Western than they seem.

    When I was in Texas my doctor was from Iran. Best doctor I've ever had.

    As for Iranians, yes they had a secular government — until they made the "mistake" of wanting to profit from their own oil instead of letting U.S.
    and European companies take it all. The U.S. sponsored a coup against the elected government and installed the Shah of Iran and his thug police. So there is no love for the United States in Iran, even if many of the citizens long for the days of a secular government. And here's the important thing to remember about Iranians. If you attack them, they unite. Even the opposition is patriotic. (Even Iranian Jews are patriotic.) These are not Arabs who break up into rival tribes when they see a chance to work with an outside, invading power, for their own gain.

    Everything you wrote is confirmed by what I've read, seen in
    documentaries and received as testimony to the few Iranians I did talk
    to. Heck, I had one in the soccer team I coached years ago. He really
    was a good guy. As for the United States going on a demonization
    campaign against Iran and Iranians, it's definitely a fact. They've done
    the same with South and Central American nations that refused to be
    ripped off.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    LibreOffice supporter
    John 14:6

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Tue Apr 29 03:43:37 2025
    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:42:36 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    Everything you wrote is confirmed by what I've read, seen in
    documentaries and received as testimony to the few Iranians I did talk
    to. Heck, I had one in the soccer team I coached years ago. He really
    was a good guy. As for the United States going on a demonization
    campaign against Iran and Iranians, it's definitely a fact. They've done
    the same with South and Central American nations that refused to be
    ripped off.

    If I were king the ally I would want in that part of the world would be
    Iran. What makes it worse is the CIA overthrew their government in service
    of British greed when the lion had lost all its teeth and couldn't do the
    job itself.

    Johnson, and now Starmer, still haven't gotten the message that the sun
    set on the empire a long time ago.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to RonB on Tue Apr 29 03:38:36 2025
    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 19:46:09 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

    As for Iranians, yes they had a secular government — until they made the "mistake" of wanting to profit from their own oil instead of letting
    U.S. and European companies take it all. The U.S. sponsored a coup
    against the elected government and installed the Shah of Iran and his
    thug police. So there is no love for the United States in Iran, even if
    many of the citizens long for the days of a secular government. And
    here's the important thing to remember about Iranians. If you attack
    them, they unite. Even the opposition is patriotic. (Even Iranian Jews
    are patriotic.) These are not Arabs who break up into rival tribes when
    they see a chance to work with an outside, invading power, for their own gain.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Separation

    In a way it's a family drama but it's interesting to see the differences between the middle family and the lower class. It also brings in what I mentioned. The daughter uses an Arabic word and the father corrects her.
    'We are Persians. The right term is ...'.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Tue Apr 29 03:20:17 2025
    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:37:20 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    On 2025-04-28 14:40, rbowman wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 08:43:13 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    Apparently, much of it is due to the fact that the Internet is now
    available to Muslims, and they can easily discover that their "faith"
    is a work of bad plagiarism filled with contradictions and lies.
    Perhaps exposure to Western content also played a part.

    Apparently exposure to the internet hasn't hindered the LDS church.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/View_of_the_Hebrews

    I think they just enjoy the fact that they can have a number of wives
    and don't want to admit that it's all garbage.

    Garbage sells.

    https://ldschurchgrowth.blogspot.com/

    Mainstream Christian churches are losing members but they keep on growing. There is a temple planned for here and there are already a number of ward churches or whatever they are called.

    There is a LDS fundamentalist town about 30 miles south. It's generally believed they are polygamists but they don't cause problems so it's don't
    ask, don't tell.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to rbowman on Tue Apr 29 09:18:14 2025
    On 2025-04-28 23:20, rbowman wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:37:20 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    On 2025-04-28 14:40, rbowman wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 08:43:13 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    Apparently, much of it is due to the fact that the Internet is now
    available to Muslims, and they can easily discover that their "faith"
    is a work of bad plagiarism filled with contradictions and lies.
    Perhaps exposure to Western content also played a part.

    Apparently exposure to the internet hasn't hindered the LDS church.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/View_of_the_Hebrews

    I think they just enjoy the fact that they can have a number of wives
    and don't want to admit that it's all garbage.

    Garbage sells.

    https://ldschurchgrowth.blogspot.com/

    Mainstream Christian churches are losing members but they keep on growing. There is a temple planned for here and there are already a number of ward churches or whatever they are called.

    There is a LDS fundamentalist town about 30 miles south. It's generally believed they are polygamists but they don't cause problems so it's don't ask, don't tell.

    The question for me is whether I want to join a religion because of the benefits it offers while I live or do I want to join the true faith
    shared by God. In my case, it's the latter. I would be wary of any sect
    which promises me all sorts of wonderful luxuries if I join.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to rbowman on Tue Apr 29 09:20:32 2025
    On 2025-04-28 23:43, rbowman wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:42:36 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    Everything you wrote is confirmed by what I've read, seen in
    documentaries and received as testimony to the few Iranians I did talk
    to. Heck, I had one in the soccer team I coached years ago. He really
    was a good guy. As for the United States going on a demonization
    campaign against Iran and Iranians, it's definitely a fact. They've done
    the same with South and Central American nations that refused to be
    ripped off.

    If I were king the ally I would want in that part of the world would be
    Iran. What makes it worse is the CIA overthrew their government in service
    of British greed when the lion had lost all its teeth and couldn't do the
    job itself.

    Johnson, and now Starmer, still haven't gotten the message that the sun
    set on the empire a long time ago.

    Starmer seems content in destroying what is left of traditional British
    culture in favour of the Muslims. It's already unrecognizable, and in
    another decade, the traditional culture will have been eradicated. All
    they need to continue ignoring the people who complain about the
    problems they've caused and only acknowledge it once it is too late to
    do anything about it.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to RonB on Tue Apr 29 09:22:33 2025
    On 2025-04-29 02:04, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-28, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-04-28 15:46, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-28, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-04-28 08:23, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-28, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 06:39:41 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

    There are different Muslim sects. Some are much less aggressive than >>>>>>> others.
    The Shiites, for example, aren't usually the "head choppers," that's >>>>>>> nearly always the Sunnis. Guess which ones the U.S. cuddles up to? >>>>>>>
    Jews in Iran, for example, are not persecuted so long as they identify >>>>>>> as Iranians and not Zionists (Israelis). Iran is a Shiite country. >>>>>>
    To further complicate it, Arabs are a small minority in Iran and
    frequently persecuted. Iran inherited what was called Arabistan from the >>>>>> Ottoman Empire and it's been a thorn in their side. The Persians are an >>>>>> Indo-European people, or what was called Aryan before some unfortunate >>>>>> 20th century events. They don't like Arabs, who are a Semitic people. >>>>>>
    It's like one of those logic statements. Most Arabs are Moslems but most >>>>>> Moslems aren't Arabs. The Arabs seem to be the least civilized.

    I keep trying to tell people that the Iranians are not Arabs. They don't >>>>> turn on each on each like the Arabs do in time of war.

    For what it's worth, my wife's best friend married an Iranian who was a >>>> pretty nice person. Similarly, a former Polish co-worker of mine married >>>> an Iranian man and he was wonderful to her. It should be noted that most >>>> Iranians don't actually support their government and are a lot more
    Western than they seem.

    When I was in Texas my doctor was from Iran. Best doctor I've ever had.

    As for Iranians, yes they had a secular government — until they made the >>> "mistake" of wanting to profit from their own oil instead of letting U.S. >>> and European companies take it all. The U.S. sponsored a coup against the >>> elected government and installed the Shah of Iran and his thug police. So >>> there is no love for the United States in Iran, even if many of the citizens
    long for the days of a secular government. And here's the important thing to
    remember about Iranians. If you attack them, they unite. Even the opposition
    is patriotic. (Even Iranian Jews are patriotic.) These are not Arabs who >>> break up into rival tribes when they see a chance to work with an outside, >>> invading power, for their own gain.

    Everything you wrote is confirmed by what I've read, seen in
    documentaries and received as testimony to the few Iranians I did talk
    to. Heck, I had one in the soccer team I coached years ago. He really
    was a good guy. As for the United States going on a demonization
    campaign against Iran and Iranians, it's definitely a fact. They've done
    the same with South and Central American nations that refused to be
    ripped off.

    It's been the USA (Rothschild) way for a long time now. We don't have nearly 900 military bases (or installations) all over the world to protect our borders. They're there to kneecap countries who won't toe the line. Unfortunately for them, BRICS is breaking up the monopoly. If the Rosthschild's don't get their "vig" from every international transaction
    (via control of the dollar) their empire will collapse. Can't wait for that to happen.

    I imagine that BRICS's success will result in new opportunities for
    Canada as well. The problem is that I don't believe our Liberal
    government will bother to take advantage of any of them. They've already
    made it near impossible for the province of Alberta to enrich itself
    with its resources.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to RonB on Tue Apr 29 17:23:34 2025
    On 2025-04-29 16:46, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-29, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-04-28 23:20, rbowman wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:37:20 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    On 2025-04-28 14:40, rbowman wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 08:43:13 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    Apparently, much of it is due to the fact that the Internet is now >>>>>> available to Muslims, and they can easily discover that their "faith" >>>>>> is a work of bad plagiarism filled with contradictions and lies.
    Perhaps exposure to Western content also played a part.

    Apparently exposure to the internet hasn't hindered the LDS church.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/View_of_the_Hebrews

    I think they just enjoy the fact that they can have a number of wives
    and don't want to admit that it's all garbage.

    Garbage sells.

    https://ldschurchgrowth.blogspot.com/

    Mainstream Christian churches are losing members but they keep on growing. >>> There is a temple planned for here and there are already a number of ward >>> churches or whatever they are called.

    There is a LDS fundamentalist town about 30 miles south. It's generally
    believed they are polygamists but they don't cause problems so it's don't >>> ask, don't tell.

    The question for me is whether I want to join a religion because of the
    benefits it offers while I live or do I want to join the true faith
    shared by God. In my case, it's the latter. I would be wary of any sect
    which promises me all sorts of wonderful luxuries if I join.

    When my brother worked with Mormons in Idaho Falls, he would share rides
    with his co-workers. When they would drive home his Mormon co-worker would always point to a big house on the side of the highway. He would say, "This is where our bishop lives... awfully BIG for ONE family, isn't it?"

    I guess he was proud that his bishop was a polygamist.

    One woman is enough trouble for me. Of course, if all those women are submissive and don't complain about everything like most women do, I can imagine it not being too demanding.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    LibreOffice supporter
    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to RonB on Tue Apr 29 17:25:11 2025
    On 2025-04-29 16:47, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-29, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-04-28 23:43, rbowman wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:42:36 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    Everything you wrote is confirmed by what I've read, seen in
    documentaries and received as testimony to the few Iranians I did talk >>>> to. Heck, I had one in the soccer team I coached years ago. He really
    was a good guy. As for the United States going on a demonization
    campaign against Iran and Iranians, it's definitely a fact. They've done >>>> the same with South and Central American nations that refused to be
    ripped off.

    If I were king the ally I would want in that part of the world would be
    Iran. What makes it worse is the CIA overthrew their government in service >>> of British greed when the lion had lost all its teeth and couldn't do the >>> job itself.

    Johnson, and now Starmer, still haven't gotten the message that the sun
    set on the empire a long time ago.

    Starmer seems content in destroying what is left of traditional British
    culture in favour of the Muslims. It's already unrecognizable, and in
    another decade, the traditional culture will have been eradicated. All
    they need to continue ignoring the people who complain about the
    problems they've caused and only acknowledge it once it is too late to
    do anything about it.

    This is what happens when you disarm the citizens of a country. The people's will no longer matters... at all.

    Exactly. Only American citizens still have some power but the Democrats
    will get rid of that eventually. Here in Canada, we're seeing Toronto
    turn into India and Montreal's East End turn into Algeria and Haiti. The
    West Island is still white for now, but Carney will make sure to put an
    end to that too, I'm sure.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    LibreOffice supporter
    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to RonB on Tue Apr 29 17:26:48 2025
    On 2025-04-29 16:49, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-29, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-04-29 02:04, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-28, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-04-28 15:46, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-28, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-04-28 08:23, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-04-28, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 06:39:41 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

    There are different Muslim sects. Some are much less aggressive than >>>>>>>>> others.
    The Shiites, for example, aren't usually the "head choppers," that's >>>>>>>>> nearly always the Sunnis. Guess which ones the U.S. cuddles up to? >>>>>>>>>
    Jews in Iran, for example, are not persecuted so long as they identify
    as Iranians and not Zionists (Israelis). Iran is a Shiite country. >>>>>>>>
    To further complicate it, Arabs are a small minority in Iran and >>>>>>>> frequently persecuted. Iran inherited what was called Arabistan from the
    Ottoman Empire and it's been a thorn in their side. The Persians are an
    Indo-European people, or what was called Aryan before some unfortunate >>>>>>>> 20th century events. They don't like Arabs, who are a Semitic people. >>>>>>>>
    It's like one of those logic statements. Most Arabs are Moslems but most
    Moslems aren't Arabs. The Arabs seem to be the least civilized. >>>>>>>
    I keep trying to tell people that the Iranians are not Arabs. They don't
    turn on each on each like the Arabs do in time of war.

    For what it's worth, my wife's best friend married an Iranian who was a >>>>>> pretty nice person. Similarly, a former Polish co-worker of mine married >>>>>> an Iranian man and he was wonderful to her. It should be noted that most >>>>>> Iranians don't actually support their government and are a lot more >>>>>> Western than they seem.

    When I was in Texas my doctor was from Iran. Best doctor I've ever had. >>>>>
    As for Iranians, yes they had a secular government — until they made the
    "mistake" of wanting to profit from their own oil instead of letting U.S. >>>>> and European companies take it all. The U.S. sponsored a coup against the >>>>> elected government and installed the Shah of Iran and his thug police. So >>>>> there is no love for the United States in Iran, even if many of the citizens
    long for the days of a secular government. And here's the important thing to
    remember about Iranians. If you attack them, they unite. Even the opposition
    is patriotic. (Even Iranian Jews are patriotic.) These are not Arabs who >>>>> break up into rival tribes when they see a chance to work with an outside,
    invading power, for their own gain.

    Everything you wrote is confirmed by what I've read, seen in
    documentaries and received as testimony to the few Iranians I did talk >>>> to. Heck, I had one in the soccer team I coached years ago. He really
    was a good guy. As for the United States going on a demonization
    campaign against Iran and Iranians, it's definitely a fact. They've done >>>> the same with South and Central American nations that refused to be
    ripped off.

    It's been the USA (Rothschild) way for a long time now. We don't have nearly
    900 military bases (or installations) all over the world to protect our
    borders. They're there to kneecap countries who won't toe the line.
    Unfortunately for them, BRICS is breaking up the monopoly. If the
    Rosthschild's don't get their "vig" from every international transaction >>> (via control of the dollar) their empire will collapse. Can't wait for that >>> to happen.

    I imagine that BRICS's success will result in new opportunities for
    Canada as well. The problem is that I don't believe our Liberal
    government will bother to take advantage of any of them. They've already
    made it near impossible for the province of Alberta to enrich itself
    with its resources.

    Canada used to be a free country. Now it's a Soviet Union wannabe.

    Soviet television was probably a lot more exciting than the CBC is.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    LibreOffice supporter
    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to chrisv on Tue Apr 29 20:14:00 2025
    On 2025-04-29 19:44, chrisv wrote:
    CrudeSausage wrote:

    All
    they need to continue ignoring the people who complain about the
    problems they've caused

    Ignore? They imprison them!

    They imprison the loudest ones but ignore the population as a whole.
    Still, good point.

    --
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    CrudeSausage
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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Tue Apr 29 18:44:12 2025
    CrudeSausage wrote:

    All
    they need to continue ignoring the people who complain about the
    problems they've caused

    Ignore? They imprison them!

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to rbowman on Wed Apr 30 09:35:10 2025
    On 4/20/25 01:02, rbowman wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 19:54:55 -0500, -hh wrote:

    chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    rbowman wrote:

    -hh wrote:

    First one was a pandemic itself, which killed 1.2 million Americans. >>>>> This generated far more submissions by health professionals than a
    normal or bad flu season/year.

    Far less than the 2% that many (such as yourself, IIRC) predicted, and
    nearly all of them where very old and sick already.

    I’ll check on if it was a prediction, or just the topical estimate of
    worst case.

    https://www.reuters...
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/...

    I've not had COLA posts cited in major media...at least that I know of.

    A popular Monday morning quarterback ploy when you've fucked the dog
    royally is 'Oh no, that wasn't a prediction, it was a worse case
    scenario.'

    Which is why I want to go read the archives to see precisely what I did
    say back in 2020, including any/all caveats.

    I've just gotten back to my desktop today, but you're free to go search
    through Google Groups from back then too & provide URL cites to help me.


    -hh

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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 30 18:28:22 2025
    Sn!pe wrote:

    From where have you gained your information, RonB? Is it
    a trustworthy, authoritative and timely source of British news?

    Are you going to deny that people have been jailed for posting memes
    in Britain? If so you better get hold of the British press and tell them,
    because they seem to be "confused" on the subject.

    At this moment I am neither denying nor confirming anything.
    I asked you a question which you have not yet answered, RonB.

    When you've done that, kindly give chapter and verse about
    "people have been jailed for posting memes in Britain".

    https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/free-speech-wobbles-uk

    https://freespeechunion.org/police-make-30-arrests-a-day-for-offensive-online-messages/

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to -hh on Wed Apr 30 21:53:21 2025
    On 4/30/25 09:35, -hh wrote:
    On 4/20/25 01:02, rbowman wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 19:54:55 -0500, -hh wrote:

    chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    rbowman wrote:

    -hh wrote:

    First one was a pandemic itself, which killed 1.2 million Americans. >>>>>> This generated far more submissions by health professionals than a >>>>>> normal or bad flu season/year.

    Far less than the 2% that many (such as yourself, IIRC) predicted, and >>>> nearly all of them where very old and sick already.

    I’ll check on if it was a prediction, or just the topical estimate of
    worst case.

    https://www.reuters...
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/...

    I've not had COLA posts cited in major media...at least that I know of.

    A popular Monday morning quarterback ploy when you've fucked the dog
    royally is 'Oh no, that wasn't a prediction, it was a worse case
    scenario.'

    Which is why I want to go read the archives to see precisely what I did
    say back in 2020, including any/all caveats.

    I've just gotten back to my desktop today, but you're free to go search through Google Groups from back then too & provide URL cites to help me.

    How's your search going?

    I did find this, which seems to align with chrisv's "2%" bit above:

    [quote]
    Interactive timeline chart can be found here:

    < https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid#how-did-confirmed-deaths-and-cases-change-over-time>

    TL;DR: USA peaked at 6%; had since declined to 2%....

    ...concern is if it will peak again as medical facilities get
    overwhelmed again.
    [/quote]

    <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux.advocacy/c/qkwJwPssUuE/m/BnFquXMeBAAJ>

    That's not a prediction, but was a report on actuals.

    Similarly, much earlier (March 2020) thread:

    [quote]
    On Monday, March 16, 2020 at 1:14:33 PM UTC-4, chrisv wrote:
    -hh wrote:


    <https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics=/>

    From it, the age-based death rates:

    80+ years old.. 14.8%
    70-79 years old 8.0%
    60-69 years old 3.6%
    50-59 years old 1.3%
    40-49 years old 0.4%
    10-39 years old 0.2%

    Using the above, consider how many older members of one's own
    family are in these higher risk Age groups: 50+, 60+, 70+ ...

    Ditto for the people you work with, know through church,
    friends, neighbors, etc. Its not all that hard for a
    parent to quickly count 200-300 folks that they know of
    comparable (and typically older) age. For example, if you
    know just 25-30 people in their 60s, because their mortality
    rate is 3.6%, that means one death for each ~27 you know.

    I'm in my 50's, but don't know many people who are significantly
    older. One brother, in his 60's, and that's about it.

    My siblings are all older and 60+; its probably why I've
    generally related to older (music and) people. It does seem
    that a good number of old classmates & friends are starting to
    retire, or at least hit their 60th birthday milestone. Another
    lump are some longtime friends from the BITNET era, many of
    which (if they're still kicking) are 70+. Things like church
    congregations can get modeled by using the applicable subgroups.


    Of course, the mortality rates, above, are for those who
    actually get the coronavirus, and not everyone will...

    Sure, and estimates vary pretty widely; the rates I've seen
    in print have been as high as 80%, although appear to more
    often be in the "40% to 70% range" as per the below cite:

    <https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/02/covid-vaccine/607000/>

    Keeping in mind that the strategy of interventions such
    as social separation, while is predominantly to slow the
    near-term rate (to prevent healthcare from being overwhelmed),
    will probably reduce overall exposure rates as well.

    But it should run generally higher in more connected societies,
    so its hard to say just where it will finally shake out after
    ~2 years. Personally, I don't think that a 50%-66% rate is
    at all unrealistic for the USA. That would suggest that the
    rate for age 60-69 would go from "1 in 27" to "1 in 40".
    [/quote]


    <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux.advocacy/c/C40pel_Xg6o/m/hfyi2ccbAgAJ>

    ..which is also a report on actual case mortality rates.

    And we can see the much longer longitudinal now here:, for Sept 2020
    through May 2023, when the US apparently stopped providing this data.
    I'm not sure if there's a grand total average, but the TL;DR is that
    there were many weeks above 1%, multiple weeks above 2%, and even a 3.5%
    peak which IMO might be a data reporting anomaly:

    <https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid#how-did-confirmed-deaths-and-cases-change-over-time>

    The only prediction from me in the above was for ages 60-69 and it was
    an expectation that the eventual mortality rate for this age group was
    likely to decline from current.

    -hh

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