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For a dictionary/thesaurus I am currently using dictd:

https://github.com/cheusov/dictd

The actual word data comes from several of the sources that
are listed here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DICT

I am very satisfied with these resources but I am also curious
if there are any other dictionaries available for GNU/Linux,
and I am only interested in local, not online, resources.

I am aware of StarDict but have never used it.

https://stardict-4.sourceforge.net/index_en.php

Can anyone offer recommendations?


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W dniu 22.05.2025 o 21:23, Farley Flud pisze:

For a dictionary/thesaurus I am currently using dictd:

https://github.com/cheusov/dictd

The actual word data comes from several of the sources that
are listed here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DICT

I am very satisfied with these resources but I am also curious
if there are any other dictionaries available for GNU/Linux,
and I am only interested in local, not online, resources.

I am aware of StarDict but have never used it.

https://stardict-4.sourceforge.net/index_en.php

Can anyone offer recommendations?

In Ubuntu repo i found: hunspell-en-gb, hyphen-en-gb, ienglish-common, language-pack-en, wamerican-huge, wamerican-insane, wamerican-large, wamerican-small, wamerican.

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On Thu, 22 May 2025 19:23:06 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote in <pan$7922f$6eb4c3d$7f68edca$65b0b535@linux.rocks>:

For a dictionary/thesaurus I am currently using dictd:

https://github.com/cheusov/dictd

The actual word data comes from several of the sources that
are listed here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DICT

I am very satisfied with these resources but I am also curious
if there are any other dictionaries available for GNU/Linux,
and I am only interested in local, not online, resources.

I am aware of StarDict but have never used it.

https://stardict-4.sourceforge.net/index_en.php

Can anyone offer recommendations?

Yes: tell us who you think you're fooling.

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On Thu, 22 May 2025 22:43:17 +0200, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:

In Ubuntu repo i found: hunspell-en-gb, hyphen-en-gb, ienglish-common, language-pack-en, wamerican-huge, wamerican-insane, wamerican-large, wamerican-small, wamerican.

I believe that those are all spelling dictionaries. That is, they are
used for spelling corrections and not for providing word definitions.





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On 22 May 2025 20:32:36 GMT, vallor wrote:

Yes: tell us who you think you're fooling.

[root]# check-word fooling
220 ajax.xxxxxxxxxx dictd 1.13.3/rf on Linux 6.14.0 <auth.mime> <0.23461.1747947420@ajax.firstbooks>
150 3 definitions retrieved
151 "Fooling" gcide "The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.53"
Fool \Fool\, v. i. [imp. & p. p. {Fooled}; p. pr. & vb. n.
{Fooling}.]
To play the fool.
[1913 Webster]

2. To waste time in unproductive activity; to spend time in
idle sport or mirth; to trifle; to toy.

Syn: fool around.
[PJC]

Is this a time for fooling? --Dryden.
[1913 Webster]
.
151 "fooling" wn "WordNet (r) 3.1"
fooling
adj : characterized by a feeling of irresponsibility; "a broken
back is nothing to be casual about; it is no fooling
matter" [syn: {casual}]
.
151 "fooling" moby-thesaurus "Moby Thesaurus II by Grady Ward, 1.0"
144 Moby Thesaurus words for "fooling":
badinage, bamboozlement, banter, bantering, befooling, bluffing,
booing, buffoonery, calculated deception, catcalling, chaff,
chaffing, circumvention, clownishness, conning, coquetry, dabbling,
dalliance, dallying, deceiving, deception, deceptiveness,
defrauding, delusion, delusiveness, derision, derisive, derisory,
dupery, enmeshment, ensnarement, entanglement, entrapment,
exchange, fallaciousness, fallacy, falseness, fiddling, fleering,
flimflam, flimflammery, flippancy, flippant, flirtation,
fond illusion, foolery, fooling around, give-and-take,
good-natured banter, grinning, hallucination, harlequinade,
harmless teasing, hazing, high jinks, hissing, hoodwinking,
hooting, horseplay, idling, illusion, jape, jeering, jerking off,
jest, jesting, jive, joke, joking, jollying, josh, joshing,
kidding, kidding around, leering, levity, loitering,
messing around, mirage, mockery, mocking, monkeying,
monkeying around, monkeyshines, outwitting, overreaching, panning,
persiflage, phantasm, piddling, playing, playing around,
pleasantry, pottering, puttering, putting on, quizzical, ragging,
railing, raillery, rallying, razzing, ribbing, ridicule,
ridiculing, roasting, roughhouse, rowdiness, scoffing,
self-deception, shenanigans, skylarking, smart, smart-aleckiness,
smart-alecky, smart-ass, smartness, smattering, smirking, sneering,
snickering, sniggering, snorting, snow job, song and dance,
spoofery, spoofing, sport, subterfuge, swindling, taunting,
teasing, tinkering, tomfoolery, toying, trickiness, tricking,
trifling, twit, twitting, victimization, vision,
willful misconception, wishful thinking



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In comp.os.linux.misc, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:

For a dictionary/thesaurus I am currently using dictd:

https://github.com/cheusov/dictd

The actual word data comes from several of the sources that
are listed here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DICT

I am very satisfied with these resources but I am also curious
if there are any other dictionaries available for GNU/Linux,
and I am only interested in local, not online, resources.

All the dictd dictionaries I know of are listed as sources at
dict.org : https://dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict4

On my own server I have only a few installed because I don't find value
in most of them:

$ cat /var/lib/dictd/db.list
[ comments removed ]

database gcide
{
data /usr/share/dictd/gcide.dict.dz
index /usr/share/dictd/gcide.index
}
database wn
{
data /usr/share/dictd/wn.dict.dz
index /usr/share/dictd/wn.index
}
database moby-thesaurus
{
data /usr/share/dictd/moby-thesaurus.dict.dz
index /usr/share/dictd/moby-thesaurus.index
}
database devil
{
data /usr/share/dictd/devil.dict.dz
index /usr/share/dictd/devil.index
}
$

I am aware of StarDict but have never used it.

https://stardict-4.sourceforge.net/index_en.php

Can anyone offer recommendations?

It probably helps to tell people what you want out of a dictionary.
English word definitions? Something else?

I bet you can download wikitionary.org somehow, but I'm not sure what
tools exist to easily use the data.

Ah, here:
https://dumps.wikimedia.org/

And here: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Wiktionary-supported_software

Elijah
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On Thu, 22 May 2025 22:17:54 +0000, Eli the Bearded wrote:

I bet you can download wikitionary.org somehow, but I'm not sure what
tools exist to easily use the data.

Ah, here:
https://dumps.wikimedia.org/

And here: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Wiktionary-supported_software

Thanks for these links.

The enwiktionary is available for download but only as XML files and
I'm not sure how I can utilize these.

Wiki recommends GoldenDict as desktop software but GoldenDict only accepts certain formats.

I do not want any web interfaces. All lookups are to be done locally.

I need to research this.




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On Thu, 22 May 2025 22:17:54 +0000, Eli the Bearded wrote:

Ah, here:
https://dumps.wikimedia.org/

should probably think about using local dumps

This may do it, although I won't know until I try:

https://github.com/xiaoyifang/goldendict-ng/discussions/1651




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Farley Flud wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

For a dictionary/thesaurus I am currently using dictd:

https://github.com/cheusov/dictd

The actual word data comes from several of the sources that
are listed here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DICT

I am very satisfied with these resources but I am also curious
if there are any other dictionaries available for GNU/Linux,
and I am only interested in local, not online, resources.

I am aware of StarDict but have never used it.

https://stardict-4.sourceforge.net/index_en.php

Can anyone offer recommendations?

I use aiksaurus, but mainly to see if there is a better word to use than the one of which I am thinking.

$ aiksaurus shit
=== voidance =================
BM, bowel movement, catharsis, crap, dejection, diarrhea, dysentery,...

=== turd =====================
bugger, cur, louse, prick, rat, reptile, scum, shit, skunk, stinker, toad, turd

=== bugger ===================
bastard, bugger, cat, creep, fart, hood, hooligan, meanie, shit, SOB,...

=== trinket ==================
...

=== tranquilizer =============
...

It's kind of bowel movementy at times.

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In comp.os.linux.misc, Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> wrote:

On Thu, 22 May 2025 22:17:54 +0000, Eli the Bearded wrote:

https://dumps.wikimedia.org/
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Wiktionary-supported_software

Thanks for these links.

The enwiktionary is available for download but only as XML files and
I'm not sure how I can utilize these.

XML is plain text and can be parsed with Python, Perl, C, ... and
depending on the format you can sometimes half-ass it with just grep.

Wiki recommends GoldenDict as desktop software but GoldenDict only accepts certain formats.

I do not want any web interfaces. All lookups are to be done locally.

Web interface is not incompatible with done locally. You started this
with dict/dictd, which is a internet service. Just because it is an
internet service doesn't mean the client and the server can't be on the
same machine. I run a local webserver for local files and use either
Firefox or lynx to localhost to access them. But curl would also work.

Elijah
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On Fri, 23 May 2025 16:39:39 -0000 (UTC), Eli the Bearded wrote:

Web interface is not incompatible with done locally. You started this
with dict/dictd, which is a internet service. Just because it is an
internet service doesn't mean the client and the server can't be on the
same machine. I run a local webserver for local files and use either
Firefox or lynx to localhost to access them. But curl would also work.

Yes, dictd is based on the client-server model but it is possible
to execute it locally on a one-shot basis. I use the following script:

#! /bin/bash
printf "define * \"$1\"\n" $1 | dictd -i

Call the script "check-word" and it will start the daemon,
look up the definition using the dictionaries specified in
/etc/dictd.conf, print to stdout, and then terminate the daemon.





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In comp.os.linux.misc, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:

On Fri, 23 May 2025 16:39:39 -0000 (UTC), Eli the Bearded wrote:
Yes, dictd is based on the client-server model but it is possible
to execute it locally on a one-shot basis. I use the following script:
#! /bin/bash
printf "define * \"$1\"\n" $1 | dictd -i

Call the script "check-word" and it will start the daemon,
look up the definition using the dictionaries specified in
/etc/dictd.conf, print to stdout, and then terminate the daemon.

Suit yourself, but

I use dict and leave the daemon running all the time. It's not that
resource intensive. It's running an a virtual machine with 1cpu and
1/2 gig ram ("465056 kB" according to /proc/meminfo), as a side project
to a web server.

top - 21:32:43 up 6 days, 3 min, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.03, 0.01 Tasks: 100 total, 1 running, 99 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
%Cpu(s): 0.0 us, 0.0 sy, 0.0 ni,100.0 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 0.0 st MiB Mem : 454.2 total, 40.4 free, 232.0 used, 181.8 buff/cache
MiB Swap: 0.0 total, 0.0 free, 0.0 used. 194.6 avail Mem

PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND ...
707 dictd 20 0 44564 43080 1788 S 0.0 9.3 0:00.34 dictd


:r! echo 465056 0.093*p | dc
43250.208

This way I can use one install from multiple locations.

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On Fri, 23 May 2025 21:45:59 -0000 (UTC), Eli the Bearded wrote:

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From the original post:

"Can anyone offer recommendations?"

The current FOSS dictionary seems to be "The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.53" which dates to 1913. It is over 100
years old.

Of course the English language hasn't changed much since 1913 but
I was curious if there are any FOSS alternatives.

The wiktionary dumps seemed promising until I read this:

"Extracting all data for all languages from English Wiktionary takes
about 1.25 hours on a 128-core dual AMD EPYC 7702 system."

https://github.com/tatuylonen/wiktextract

I only have 8 cores.

There are pre-expanded files available but these are now deprecated
in favor of the raw, un-expanded data.





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Le 23-05-2025, Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> a écrit :

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still doesn't know exactly what OP wants

It's some kind of proof of sanity. There is no reason behind any of LP/DG/FF/FR/whatever request. He just want to make believe he knows what
a terminal is. He wouldn't know what to do with a dictionary.

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In comp.os.linux.misc Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:

For a dictionary/thesaurus I am currently using dictd:

<snip>

Can anyone offer recommendations?

For a thesaurus I use WordNet:
https://wordnet.princeton.edu/
which there is a build for Slackware:
https://slackbuilds.org/repository

For a dictionary I use:
spell(1), look(1), ispell or aspell
these comes with Slackware

I try and avoid WEB solutions for these items. I am sure
these are available in other distros.

HTH

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On 24/05/2025 12:51, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

Le 23-05-2025, Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> a écrit :

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still doesn't know exactly what OP wants

It's some kind of proof of sanity. There is no reason behind any of LP/DG/FF/FR/whatever request. He just want to make believe he knows what
a terminal is. He wouldn't know what to do with a dictionary.

I have found, like Apple Macs, they make good doorstops

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On 24 May 2025 11:51:34 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

Le 23-05-2025, Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> a écrit :

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It's some kind of proof of sanity. There is no reason behind any of LP/DG/FF/FR/whatever request. He just want to make believe he knows what
a terminal is. He wouldn't know what to do with a dictionary.

YOU don't know what an idiot is (or, more grammatically correct, what
is an idiot).

I'll give you a hint: YOU are an idiot.

Like a helpless idiot, YOU rely on pre-built GNU/Linux distros
because you would not know what to do with all the source code.

YOU will ALWAYS be at the mercy of a distro. How fucking pathetic!

In contrast, _I_ will always be the total master of my GNU/Linux installation.

Be a man and admit that you are a lost lackey.

Furthermore, spare us all your ridiculous, standardized excuses.
We have all heard them many times before. There is nothing that
you can say that can save you from the judgments above.


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