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<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mKZtotJNAY>

Like I said, Hell will be too good a place for Chris and Carlos E. R..

--
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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On 5/23/25 12:03 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mKZtotJNAY>

Like I said, Hell will be too good a place for Chris and Carlos E. R..

Would you please not post stuff like this to
this group and try to keep it focused
primarily on Windows 11 and secondarily
on computers.

There are other places much better for
your post.

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On 2025-05-23 10:46 p.m., T wrote:

On 5/23/25 12:03 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mKZtotJNAY>

Like I said, Hell will be too good a place for Chris and Carlos E. R..

Would you please not post stuff like this to
this group and try to keep it focused
primarily on Windows 11 and secondarily
on computers.

There are other places much better for
your post.

In that case, I would suggest that you tell Carlos and Chris to stop
spreading their ideas on COVID-19 and the "vaccine" as gospel when, in
reality, their ignorance has hurt people. I was reminded of my wife's
cousin in the Azores who, after taking the "vaccine" was turned into a vegetable that is now incapable of walking or talking. I was also
informed that my wife's co-worker can handle _two_ minutes of activity
before needing to lay down, not ten. This poison they're promoting is
hurting countless people and none of you are calling these clowns out on
their propaganda simply because it is the safe, accepted government
narrative. It is also the safe, accepted government narrative that
illegal aliens don't commit crimes, but anyone with eyes knows that
isn't true.

--
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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On 5/24/25 6:05 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:

On 2025-05-23 10:46 p.m., T wrote:

On 5/23/25 12:03 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mKZtotJNAY>

Like I said, Hell will be too good a place for Chris and Carlos E. R..

Would you please not post stuff like this to
this group and try to keep it focused
primarily on Windows 11 and secondarily
on computers.

There are other places much better for
your post.

In that case, I would suggest that you tell Carlos and Chris to stop spreading their ideas on COVID-19 and the "vaccine" as gospel when, in reality, their ignorance has hurt people. I was reminded of my wife's
cousin in the Azores who, after taking the "vaccine" was turned into a vegetable that is now incapable of walking or talking. I was also
informed that my wife's co-worker can handle _two_ minutes of activity
before needing to lay down, not ten. This poison they're promoting is
hurting countless people and none of you are calling these clowns out on their propaganda simply because it is the safe, accepted government narrative. It is also the safe, accepted government narrative that
illegal aliens don't commit crimes, but anyone with eyes knows that
isn't true.

Carlos and Chris do not post such off topic things here.
Go find where they do post and give them hell there.
But, please not here.

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On 2025-05-24 9:26 a.m., T wrote:

On 5/24/25 6:05 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:

On 2025-05-23 10:46 p.m., T wrote:

On 5/23/25 12:03 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mKZtotJNAY>

Like I said, Hell will be too good a place for Chris and Carlos E. R.. >>>>

Would you please not post stuff like this to
this group and try to keep it focused
primarily on Windows 11 and secondarily
on computers.

There are other places much better for
your post.

In that case, I would suggest that you tell Carlos and Chris to stop
spreading their ideas on COVID-19 and the "vaccine" as gospel when, in
reality, their ignorance has hurt people. I was reminded of my wife's
cousin in the Azores who, after taking the "vaccine" was turned into a
vegetable that is now incapable of walking or talking. I was also
informed that my wife's co-worker can handle _two_ minutes of activity
before needing to lay down, not ten. This poison they're promoting is
hurting countless people and none of you are calling these clowns out
on their propaganda simply because it is the safe, accepted government
narrative. It is also the safe, accepted government narrative that
illegal aliens don't commit crimes, but anyone with eyes knows that
isn't true.

Carlos and Chris do not post such off topic things here.
Go find where they do post and give them hell there.
But, please not here.

Once again, I will not allow these dangerous propagandists to spread
their lies as accepted truth if I can help it. I have no intention of
making a long thread about COVID-19, but people must know that no, the "vaccines" were not safe or effective and that they played no part
whatsoever in helping or saving people. The words of the clowns you're protecting could lead others to believe that injecting themselves is a
good idea and therefore to ruin their lives. I won't stand for it. Since
you guys are all content to stand down and let the people behind this
get away with the crimes they've committed against humanity, _someone_
has to speak up.

Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.

--
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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On 5/24/25 6:49 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:

On 2025-05-24 9:26 a.m., T wrote:

On 5/24/25 6:05 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:

On 2025-05-23 10:46 p.m., T wrote:

On 5/23/25 12:03 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mKZtotJNAY>

Like I said, Hell will be too good a place for Chris and Carlos E. R.. >>>>>

Would you please not post stuff like this to
this group and try to keep it focused
primarily on Windows 11 and secondarily
on computers.

There are other places much better for
your post.

In that case, I would suggest that you tell Carlos and Chris to stop
spreading their ideas on COVID-19 and the "vaccine" as gospel when,
in reality, their ignorance has hurt people. I was reminded of my
wife's cousin in the Azores who, after taking the "vaccine" was
turned into a vegetable that is now incapable of walking or talking.
I was also informed that my wife's co-worker can handle _two_ minutes
of activity before needing to lay down, not ten. This poison they're
promoting is hurting countless people and none of you are calling
these clowns out on their propaganda simply because it is the safe,
accepted government narrative. It is also the safe, accepted
government narrative that illegal aliens don't commit crimes, but
anyone with eyes knows that isn't true.

Carlos and Chris do not post such off topic things here.
Go find where they do post and give them hell there.
But, please not here.

Once again, I will not allow these dangerous propagandists to spread
their lies as accepted truth if I can help it. I have no intention of
making a long thread about COVID-19, but people must know that no, the "vaccines" were not safe or effective and that they played no part
whatsoever in helping or saving people. The words of the clowns you're protecting could lead others to believe that injecting themselves is a
good idea and therefore to ruin their lives. I won't stand for it. Since
you guys are all content to stand down and let the people behind this
get away with the crimes they've committed against humanity, _someone_
has to speak up.

Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.

Not at all.

This is just not the appropriate place to
post it. alt.comp.os.windows-11 is
for discussions on Windows 11 and other
computer topics.

I wish you'd change your tactic and
response to them where they post their
narratives.

But not here. I am all for you giving
them hell where they do post their
narratives. Let them have it with both
barrels (figuratively). The truth will
eventually win out.

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In article <V7kYP.2$c9k3.1@fx03.iad>, crude@sausa.ge says...

On 2025-05-24 9:26 a.m., T wrote:

On 5/24/25 6:05 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:

On 2025-05-23 10:46 p.m., T wrote:

On 5/23/25 12:03 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mKZtotJNAY>

In that case, I would suggest that you tell Carlos and Chris to stop
spreading their ideas on COVID-19 and the "vaccine" as gospel when, in
reality, their ignorance has hurt people. I was reminded of my wife's
cousin in the Azores who, after taking the "vaccine" was turned into a
vegetable that is now incapable of walking or talking. I was also
informed that my wife's co-worker can handle _two_ minutes of activity
before needing to lay down, not ten. This poison they're promoting is
hurting countless people and none of you are calling these clowns out
on their propaganda simply because it is the safe, accepted government
narrative. It is also the safe, accepted government narrative that
illegal aliens don't commit crimes, but anyone with eyes knows that
isn't true.

Once again, I will not allow these dangerous propagandists to spread
their lies as accepted truth if I can help it. I have no intention of
making a long thread about COVID-19, but people must know that no, the >"vaccines" were not safe or effective and that they played no part
whatsoever in helping or saving people. The words of the clowns you're >protecting could lead others to believe that injecting themselves is a
good idea and therefore to ruin their lives. I won't stand for it. Since
you guys are all content to stand down and let the people behind this
get away with the crimes they've committed against humanity, _someone_
has to speak up.

I used the "Perplexity" AI model to ask the question:

"Since the beginning of Covid, what proportion of people have been
harmed by Covid vaccines, compared with those harmed by Covid itself?"

Perplexity is an AI model much liked by academics, as it emphasises
academic research and cites references. This is what it said in
conclusion (after a lengthy narrative - try it!):

"Conclusion
The comparative analysis of available surveillance data demonstrates
that harms definitively attributed to COVID-19 vaccines occur at rates
that are orders of magnitude lower than the documented harms from COVID-
19 disease itself. While COVID-19 has resulted in over 7 million
confirmed deaths among nearly 776 million cases globally, representing substantial mortality and morbidity, serious adverse events confirmed to
be caused by COVID-19 vaccines remain extremely rare, occurring in fewer
than 1 in 50,000 vaccinated individuals for the most serious documented
events like anaphylaxis.

The distinction between reported adverse events following vaccination
and proven vaccine-caused harms remains crucial for accurate risk
assessment. While millions of adverse events have been reported to
surveillance systems, the lack of established causal relationships for
the vast majority of these reports contrasts with the definitively
established causal relationship between COVID-19 infection and severe
outcomes including death. This evidence base supports the consensus
among international health authorities that COVID-19 vaccines present a
highly favorable risk-benefit profile, with prevention benefits far
outweighing the rare risks of serious adverse events."

Among the references:

The US CDC (Centre for Disease Control):
"During the COVID-19 pandemic, COVID-19 vaccines underwent the most
intensive safety analysis in U.S. history." https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety/vaccines/covid-19.html

The Lancet (leading UK medical journal):

"Based on official reported COVID-19 deaths, we estimated that
vaccinations prevented 14·4 million (95% credible interval [Crl] 13·
7?15·9) deaths from COVID-19 in 185 countries and territories between
Dec 8, 2020, and Dec 8, 2021. This estimate rose to 19·8 million (95%
Crl 19·1?20·4) deaths from COVID-19 averted when we used excess deaths
as an estimate of the true extent of the pandemic, representing a global reduction of 63% in total deaths (19·8 million of 31·4 million) during
the first year of COVID-19 vaccination. In COVAX Advance Market
Commitment countries, we estimated that 41% of excess mortality (7·4
million [95% Crl 6·8?7·7] of 17·9 million deaths) was averted. In low-
income countries, we estimated that an additional 45% (95% CrI 42?49) of
deaths could have been averted had the 20% vaccination coverage target
set by COVAX been met by each country, and that an additional 111%
(105?118) of deaths could have been averted had the 40% target set by
WHO been met by each country by the end of 2021." https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(22) 00320-6/fulltext

So, Crude Sausage, you're talking bollocks, and bollocks that could harm
anyone foolish enough to listen to you. Whatever motivates you to make
these claims it isn't an understanding of science. And your fantasy
nonsense doesn't belong in this group.

If you've an open mind, put that same question into any of the leading
AI tools, like Gemini, CoPilot, ChatGPT and so on. Unless you think
it's all a big conspiracy, in which case you need help.

Now we're here to talk about Windows, so just shut up about this.

--
--
Phil, London

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On 2025-05-25 7:15 a.m., Philip Herlihy wrote:

In article <V7kYP.2$c9k3.1@fx03.iad>, crude@sausa.ge says...

On 2025-05-24 9:26 a.m., T wrote:

On 5/24/25 6:05 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:

On 2025-05-23 10:46 p.m., T wrote:

On 5/23/25 12:03 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mKZtotJNAY>

In that case, I would suggest that you tell Carlos and Chris to stop
spreading their ideas on COVID-19 and the "vaccine" as gospel when, in >>>> reality, their ignorance has hurt people. I was reminded of my wife's
cousin in the Azores who, after taking the "vaccine" was turned into a >>>> vegetable that is now incapable of walking or talking. I was also
informed that my wife's co-worker can handle _two_ minutes of activity >>>> before needing to lay down, not ten. This poison they're promoting is
hurting countless people and none of you are calling these clowns out
on their propaganda simply because it is the safe, accepted government >>>> narrative. It is also the safe, accepted government narrative that
illegal aliens don't commit crimes, but anyone with eyes knows that
isn't true.

Once again, I will not allow these dangerous propagandists to spread
their lies as accepted truth if I can help it. I have no intention of
making a long thread about COVID-19, but people must know that no, the
"vaccines" were not safe or effective and that they played no part
whatsoever in helping or saving people. The words of the clowns you're
protecting could lead others to believe that injecting themselves is a
good idea and therefore to ruin their lives. I won't stand for it. Since
you guys are all content to stand down and let the people behind this
get away with the crimes they've committed against humanity, _someone_
has to speak up.

I used the "Perplexity" AI model to ask the question:

"Since the beginning of Covid, what proportion of people have been
harmed by Covid vaccines, compared with those harmed by Covid itself?"

Perplexity is an AI model much liked by academics, as it emphasises
academic research and cites references. This is what it said in
conclusion (after a lengthy narrative - try it!):

"Conclusion
The comparative analysis of available surveillance data demonstrates
that harms definitively attributed to COVID-19 vaccines occur at rates
that are orders of magnitude lower than the documented harms from COVID-
19 disease itself. While COVID-19 has resulted in over 7 million
confirmed deaths among nearly 776 million cases globally, representing substantial mortality and morbidity, serious adverse events confirmed to
be caused by COVID-19 vaccines remain extremely rare, occurring in fewer
than 1 in 50,000 vaccinated individuals for the most serious documented events like anaphylaxis.

The distinction between reported adverse events following vaccination
and proven vaccine-caused harms remains crucial for accurate risk
assessment. While millions of adverse events have been reported to surveillance systems, the lack of established causal relationships for
the vast majority of these reports contrasts with the definitively established causal relationship between COVID-19 infection and severe outcomes including death. This evidence base supports the consensus
among international health authorities that COVID-19 vaccines present a highly favorable risk-benefit profile, with prevention benefits far outweighing the rare risks of serious adverse events."

Among the references:

The US CDC (Centre for Disease Control):
"During the COVID-19 pandemic, COVID-19 vaccines underwent the most
intensive safety analysis in U.S. history." https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safety/vaccines/covid-19.html

The Lancet (leading UK medical journal):

"Based on official reported COVID-19 deaths, we estimated that
vaccinations prevented 14·4 million (95% credible interval [Crl] 13· 7?15·9) deaths from COVID-19 in 185 countries and territories between
Dec 8, 2020, and Dec 8, 2021. This estimate rose to 19·8 million (95%
Crl 19·1?20·4) deaths from COVID-19 averted when we used excess deaths
as an estimate of the true extent of the pandemic, representing a global reduction of 63% in total deaths (19·8 million of 31·4 million) during
the first year of COVID-19 vaccination. In COVAX Advance Market
Commitment countries, we estimated that 41% of excess mortality (7·4
million [95% Crl 6·8?7·7] of 17·9 million deaths) was averted. In low- income countries, we estimated that an additional 45% (95% CrI 42?49) of deaths could have been averted had the 20% vaccination coverage target
set by COVAX been met by each country, and that an additional 111%
(105?118) of deaths could have been averted had the 40% target set by
WHO been met by each country by the end of 2021." https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(22) 00320-6/fulltext

So, Crude Sausage, you're talking bollocks, and bollocks that could harm anyone foolish enough to listen to you. Whatever motivates you to make
these claims it isn't an understanding of science. And your fantasy
nonsense doesn't belong in this group.

If you've an open mind, put that same question into any of the leading
AI tools, like Gemini, CoPilot, ChatGPT and so on. Unless you think
it's all a big conspiracy, in which case you need help.

Now we're here to talk about Windows, so just shut up about this.

I recall how people used AI to determine what Romans and Scots looked
like, and they were drawn as negroes.

You know what, there is no point in trying to stop you clowns from
giving yourselves a stroke, a heart attack, paralysis (like in my wife's cousin's case), cancer or the rest. You are absolutely determined to
kill yourselves to protect against imaginary illnesses. Remember this
exchange when you are informed of your inevitable death sentence.

--
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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On Sun, 25 May 2025 12:15:15 +0100, Philip Herlihy wrote:

If you've an open mind, put that same question into any of the leading
AI tools, like Gemini, CoPilot, ChatGPT and so on. Unless you think
it's all a big conspiracy, in which case you need help.

So you put all your faith in AI models known to hallucinate?

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On Sun, 5/25/2025 1:56 PM, rbowman wrote:

On Sun, 25 May 2025 12:15:15 +0100, Philip Herlihy wrote:

If you've an open mind, put that same question into any of the leading
AI tools, like Gemini, CoPilot, ChatGPT and so on. Unless you think
it's all a big conspiracy, in which case you need help.

So you put all your faith in AI models known to hallucinate?

Hallucination is a strategy, not a necessity.

If you want Dad Jokes, you don't get Dad Jokes by making
a text summary of old Dad Jokes. The customer expect new/fresh/dumb
Dad Jokes. And if the Dad Joke module loads, that requires
the temperature to be turned up. And the AI will be giggling inside,
because it's well into hallucination country at that point. It's
huffing Helium.

For writing summaries, the parameters on the model are turned down.
Each model loaded, in the chain of models joined together to
answer a query, has its own parameter settings, "attention" and
"temperature".

To implement an arithmetic module, where none is possible,
they turn up the parameters. This is why a non-mathematics
model cannot count the letter "R" in "strawberry". It's because
the method used, is a sop, a placeholder, and it doesn't
actually work properly. The AI that offers checkpoints on its
intermediate thoughts, revealed why that method does not work.

Textual summaries done by a textual summary module, are a snap.
It can extract the gist of the truth about a subject, if
enough substantive sources agree on the details. If there are
ten articles, with references, saying a thing is true, that's
what the AI will extract.

As the warning on the screen details, "AI make mistakes".
But, mistakes are a lot more common in some scenarios
than other.

It's not one giant model. It's a group of experts. The
first step, is a strategy planner, which identifies which
expert models will be required. The textual summary module
is one of the most common, and it "answers questions".
Mixed mode questions require the loading of multiple
modules sequentially, that is not an ideal situation.
It does not think like a human, as a human considers
every aspect, in parallel.

If you knew the details, hardly any of the details
of how these things work, are "ideal". Some are
flat out wrong (counting letters in strawberry being one of them).

The last time I asked CoPilot to draw me a picture, the
fucking picture was photorealistic. It looked good enough,
it could have been a canned or hardwired answer.
I didn't even keep a copy of the picture. I asked the AI
to draw the picture again. An entirely different quality picture
appeared. It would seem the second attempt, the strategy planner
decided the first picture must have been unacceptable in some way,
because the customer "asked for a re-do". I can only conclude it
loaded an older expert studio module for the second attempt.
The picture was awful, and unusable.

We are forced to do our own analysis of what is going on
in the black box. Some answers are more trustworthy than others.
I don't do my "strawberry counting" on an AI :-) That's from
experience.

As long as an AI answer is prefaced with "This is an AI answer"
or the name of the agent used is listed, I don't have a problem
with that. I change hats, and I look at what path through the
AI, the question would have traveled through.

The AI can't write code, in computer languages for which insufficient
"history" exists to train them. The AI hung on me (not even the
safety timer went off), when I tried that.

It's pretty easy to guess, which activities won't end well, after
a few test runs.

Don't ask for a list of presidents, because
it keeps forgetting one particular president :-) Only an
exhortation to "Don't lose any of the presidents!" in the
query, managed to generate the correct list. I tried a number
of hints, but only whacking it with a hammer worked :-)
Why did that hint work ? Why did it help ? No idea.

Paul

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On Sun, 25 May 2025 14:42:43 -0400, Paul wrote:

The AI can't write code, in computer languages for which insufficient "history" exists to train them. The AI hung on me (not even the safety
timer went off), when I tried that.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ai-hallucinated-code- dependencies-become-new-supply-chain-risk/

Synopsis: AIs hallucinate package names and helpful blackhats create
packages to match, filled with malware.

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On Sun, 5/25/2025 11:54 PM, rbowman wrote:

On Sun, 25 May 2025 14:42:43 -0400, Paul wrote:

The AI can't write code, in computer languages for which insufficient
"history" exists to train them. The AI hung on me (not even the safety
timer went off), when I tried that.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ai-hallucinated-code- dependencies-become-new-supply-chain-risk/

Synopsis: AIs hallucinate package names and helpful blackhats create
packages to match, filled with malware.

Well, you've been studying your AIs now for a while,
so you know what some of their limitations are.

1) You can't refactor Firefox (tarball or Mercurial source).
It's too big. The machines to do this, would require astronomical
amounts of RAM. Maybe a training machine could do it, but not
an inference machine. Typical limits are 256,000 tokens ("words").
Once any machine needs even tiny comm links to hook nodes together,
all the performance of the machine is lost. Either the memory subsystem
has terabytes per second of bandwidth, or your answer isn't coming back
any time soon.

2) This means you will be working at the code module level.
You still have to do your own architecting and partitioning,
although the AI could read a magazine article about what you
were trying to do, and pretend to understand.

That suggests to me at the moment, the leash on your AI dog is a
rather short one. You still have to review "everything" in the source
file, after it is finished. The machine comments the code, oh yes,
but the machine has no "insight". An experienced programmer would
say "if you do it this way, bad things will happen to you". Whereas
the AI says "heres your code", and it is up to you to discover
the program limitations (not enough stack, not enough heap,
bug in system library routine will limit max size the program
can handle).

I successfully managed to get it to write a 40 line program.
On another occasion, when asking for a shorter program than
that in C: , I got a programming pattern I'd never seen before.
It almost smacked of "intelligence", but I know that's
not possible, right ? :-/

But for the people using Codex, they appear to spend longer
sessions in it, implying somewhat larger scale. You still
can't point it at the Firefox tarball and say "rewrite that for
me".

The very last time I asked it to write me a program, I got
three dancing balls as my "answer", and it just sat there.
In the year 2025, every response from the computer must
be a fucking puzzle. We can't just print on the screen
"error 9" and be done with it. Three dancing balls. Hmmm.
When I asked the machine later "what happened to the program
you were writing", there was no record of the request.
Presumably there is a shovel full of dirt, underneath
the AI's hall carpeting with my query in it. I was asking
for a C program.

Paul

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On 2025-05-26 05:54, rbowman wrote:

On Sun, 25 May 2025 14:42:43 -0400, Paul wrote:

The AI can't write code, in computer languages for which insufficient
"history" exists to train them. The AI hung on me (not even the safety
timer went off), when I tried that.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ai-hallucinated-code- dependencies-become-new-supply-chain-risk/

Synopsis: AIs hallucinate package names and helpful blackhats create
packages to match, filled with malware.

:-o !

--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

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On 2025-05-25 23:54, rbowman wrote:

On Sun, 25 May 2025 14:42:43 -0400, Paul wrote:

The AI can't write code, in computer languages for which insufficient
"history" exists to train them. The AI hung on me (not even the safety
timer went off), when I tried that.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ai-hallucinated-code- dependencies-become-new-supply-chain-risk/

Synopsis: AIs hallucinate package names and helpful blackhats create
packages to match, filled with malware.

We should therefore definitely trust their conclusions about human
illnesses!

--
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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On Mon, 5/26/2025 7:18 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2025-05-26 05:54, rbowman wrote:

On Sun, 25 May 2025 14:42:43 -0400, Paul wrote:

The AI can't write code, in computer languages for which insufficient
"history" exists to train them. The AI hung on me (not even the safety
timer went off), when I tried that.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ai-hallucinated-code-
dependencies-become-new-supply-chain-risk/

Synopsis: AIs hallucinate package names and helpful blackhats create
packages to match, filled with malware.

:-o  !

Each article about AI, always lets slip some detail
about the "issues" they have.

There are different models that load sequentially. Some
of them have the parameters turned up, and it is partially
because the model is no good at what it is doing. These
can be placeholder modules, until they find a better solution.

Whatever counts the letter "R" in Strawberry, is not a math
module, it's some other module that hallucinates as part
of providing a solution. There are also math modules that
are trained on math problems and math files, that can produce
properly formatted math output, but you don't get those
for free particularly. And being isolated as payware, you don't
get to learn anything about the veracity.

Anyone who gets code slop from an AI, is checking it. Unlike
lawyers, you can't just submit that to the source tree
straight from the AI, as that will never work (never pass
all the test benches).

They can't write code in languages where insufficient training is
present. The AI doesn't know this. It doesn't know that the APL
knowledge it has, is too low to write code. The user has to
recognize the behaviors at the output.

When I asked for a printf in Raku, it knew
that was "say Hello World". I figured that was evidence
it knew something. But a request to write a short program,
did not produce output. And without symptoms or a log or any
information to go on, it's really hard to say whether the
problem even "got out of the gate". Maybe it didn't try and
the Strategy Planner cut it off.

Paul

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