Don't you wish that your distro could do all that?
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
On 2025-05-26, CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> wrote:
On Sun, 25 May 2025 15:54:40 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:
Don't you wish that your distro could do all that?
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
I used the auto-installer option of Linux Mint, set a time for
installation of the OS, and it turned on my computer that I had left the
USB installation media plugged into, installed Linux Mint, formatted my
hard drive into a root drive and user drive, selected English as the
language, Central Standard Time/Chicago as the time format, and fully
installed itself automatically and installed my favorite software, like
the Brave Browser, Pan Newsreader, and SMPlayer as instructed to do, and
then shut the computer back down.
It did all this while I was on vacation.
Linux Mint is hard to beat.
"Farley Flud" reminds me of Neil Innes as he introduces his "Protest Song." He says, "I've suffered for my art, now it's your turn." Our "suffering" is listening to "Farley" prattle on endlessly about how much better it is to work hard at installing and updating Linux then it is to do it the easy way with a distribution like Linux Mint. Personally I don't care if he likes Gentoo. If it gives him pleasure and meaning to his life to be obsessed with it, that's his thing. I just don't need to read his incessant yammerings about it.
Neil Innes' "Protest Song."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m38eCuan-s
Apparently "Farley's" leaving comp.os.linux.advocacy was short-lived. I guess people didn't swarm to his "private" newsgroup. Who would have guessed it?
LinuxMint is trivial to install and just works.
All I do is change the background image and enlarge the fonts a little
and I'm good to go.
I no longer subscribe to the kernel of the week club unless I get
notified of a serious security risk.
To each her own.
On Mon, 26 May 2025 22:06:59 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
<snip>
They want Linux to remain difficult, hard, and unusable except for people that don't have jobs and can easily waste the many hours/days/years it
takes to get many other distros working properly.
More people using Linux is anathema to those types because, in a way, it
is taking something away from them that they feel should belong to just
them because they are nerds, have no wives, no lives, no children, and
need something that feels like theirs and theirs alone.
Mint truly is the best of the best, the cream of the crop, the crme de la >crme of Linux distros. It's so easy, clean, powerful, and functional for >just about anyone that it pisses off many old head Linux nerds.
They want Linux to remain difficult, hard, and unusable except for people >that don't have jobs and can easily waste the many hours/days/years it
takes to get many other distros working properly.
More people using Linux is anathema to those types because, in a way, it
is taking something away from them that they feel should belong to just
them because they are nerds, have no wives, no lives, no children, and
need something that feels like theirs and theirs alone.
Mint truly is the best of the best, the cream of the crop, the crème de la crème of Linux distros. It's so easy, clean, powerful, and functional for just about anyone that it pisses off many old head Linux nerds.
They want Linux to remain difficult, hard, and unusable except for people that don't have jobs and can easily waste the many hours/days/years it
takes to get many other distros working properly.
More people using Linux is anathema to those types because, in a way, it
is taking something away from them that they feel should belong to just
them because they are nerds, have no wives, no lives, no children, and
need something that feels like theirs and theirs alone.
I had a friend in college who liked little known bands... until they
became big and well known. Then he didn't have the time of day for them.
Like you say, he wanted them to be his (and his alone). I never could understand that attitude. I thought he should be happy when they became successful.
what are your system specs? i had gentoo couple years back.
On Mon, 26 May 2025 22:06:59 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
LinuxMint is trivial to install and just works.
All I do is change the background image and enlarge the fonts a little
and I'm good to go.
I no longer subscribe to the kernel of the week club unless I get
notified of a serious security risk.
To each her own.
Mint truly is the best of the best, the cream of the crop, the crème de la crème of Linux distros. It's so easy, clean, powerful, and functional for just about anyone
that it pisses off many old head Linux nerds.
They want Linux to remain difficult, hard, and unusable except for people that don't have jobs and can easily waste the many hours/days/years
it takes to get many other distros working properly.
More people using Linux is anathema to those types because, in a way, it
is taking something away from them that they feel should belong to just
them because they are nerds, have no wives, no lives, no children, and
need something that feels like theirs and theirs alone.
He wasn't calling Mint "garbage", but the claim that hardcore users
dislike it because it's easy - and I agree, I would probably never use
Mint again, but it was a great distro when I used it, much like Win11
was at first, time moves on, things get screwed up. Mint basically
expects you not to upgrade to a newer version if your in-place upgrade
fails to work. That wasn't good enough for me, so I moved on to a more stable distro, but having had the good experience of using Mint and
other distros like Fedora, gaining skills and resourcefulness I'd need
to eventually tackle something like Debian.
On 2025-05-31, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
On the other way, that's just garbage. You like Mint if you want, it's
a good start for a new Linux user, but why would it piss off Linux
nerds? It doesn't. You are only spreading shit because of a lack of
knowledge.
What is it about Linux Mint that makes you think it's "garbage?" I've
been using it for about 18 years. It works well for me. Not saying it's
for everyone, that's why there so many choices, choosing a Linux
distribution is a matter of taste more than anything else.
On Sat, 31 May 2025 20:58:46 -0000 (UTC), RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
wrote in <101fqi6$1eoud$1@dont-email.me>:
On 2025-05-31, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
On the other way, that's just garbage. You like Mint if you want, it's
a good start for a new Linux user, but why would it piss off Linux
nerds? It doesn't. You are only spreading shit because of a lack of
knowledge.
What is it about Linux Mint that makes you think it's "garbage?" I've
been using it for about 18 years. It works well for me. Not saying it's
for everyone, that's why there so many choices, choosing a Linux
distribution is a matter of taste more than anything else.
I agree. I've been using Mint since I jumped ship from Fedora,
and haven't looked back.
I've never said Mint was garbage.
On 01 Jun 2025 10:43:31 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
I've never said Mint was garbage.
Mint, and its parent Ubuntu, are total garbage.
Both are bloated to hell with systemd, pipewire, security,
etc., etc., etc.
One needs a 128-core machine with 256 Gb RAM just to execute
"Hello World."
If there are issues with systemd, it's a huge improvement to other init systems that have been written until now. You are welcome to create a
best one. Of course you can't,
For the security part, the only reason your computer may not have been breached by now, is because it's a unusable brick. But I'm pretty sure
your computer CPU/GPU/network/disk storage is used by criminals. So,
yes, it's good for the end-user's system to have minimal security
enforced.
On 01 Jun 2025 13:26:36 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
For the security part, the only reason your computer may not have been
breached by now, is because it's a unusable brick. But I'm pretty sure
your computer CPU/GPU/network/disk storage is used by criminals. So,
yes, it's good for the end-user's system to have minimal security
enforced.
That statement has got to be one of the most idiotic statements that
I have ever encountered, and, furthermore, it puts your technical sanity
in serious doubt.
You had better relieve yourself (i.e. piss) in the street as all
French men will do:
https://parishistoryofourstreets.com/2021/03/22/the-last-public-pisser/
https://parishistoryofourstreets.com/2021/03/22/the-last-public-pisser/
Here you are a kind of a specialist.
On 01 Jun 2025 10:43:31 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
I've never said Mint was garbage.
Mint, and its parent Ubuntu, are total garbage.
Both are bloated to hell with systemd, pipewire, security,
etc., etc., etc.
One needs a 128-core machine with 256 Gb RAM just to execute
"Hello World."
On 01 Jun 2025 15:27:09 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
https://parishistoryofourstreets.com/2021/03/22/the-last-public-pisser/
Here you are a kind of a specialist.
I specialize in civilized hygiene.
It's unfortunate the French don't do the same:
https://frenchmoments.eu/empeche-pipi-paris/
Quote:
"pipi sauvage"
The stench of urine in Paris should have stopped the German
blitzkrieg.
I just run the Cinnamon flavor of Debian. Hardly any difference from
Linux Mint from what I can tell. I definitely don't get having to "work
up to it"
as there doesn't to be anything especially different about it. I've run Fedora also, I don't know what skills I gained from doing that.
Installing with dnf is almost exactly the same as installing from apt.
But Synaptic is better than whatever it is that Fedora supplies (if you
use the GUI install).
To rbowman...
As for living with or without Linux Mint, I can understand that. That's pretty much how I feel about Fedora. Kind of "meh" but it I had to use
it, it would be fine.
What I meant in particular about using Debian with resourcefulness I'd
gained from using easier distros, is that my main user account wasn't automatically given sudo access, I'd never seen another distro default
to that, but I learned how to log in to root and add my account to sudo,
and voila, problem solved.
So as I said, it's a good distro for a beginner. For a more experienced
user, he can choose either to stick with it or to keep it, I don't care.
But saying that using something else than Mint is only to do thing more difficult is just garbage. I maintained it: the sentence I was answering
was garbage.
On Sun, 8 Jun 2025 05:50:09 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:
At this point, all Linux developers could concentrate only on Linux
Mint and Cinnamon.
Trolling again?
At this point, all Linux developers could concentrate only on Linux Mint
and Cinnamon.
People almost always choose what is the best if given a choice.
Linux Mint is better than all the other Linux distros and it's not really close. It's not an overnight thing but, Mint is slowly replacing all the other Linux distributions because it's simply better in every measurable
way.
On Sun, 8 Jun 2025 07:14:26 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:
People almost always choose what is the best if given a choice.Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! What a clown!
The example of "popular" music, or the music chosen by the masses,
kills that assumption. Popular music is puerile junk. Truly good
music, like GNU/Linux, is reserved for the minority.
Linux Mint is better than all the other Linux distros and it's notYour measuring devices are extremely limited. Mint is pure junk and a
really close. It's not an overnight thing but, Mint is slowly
replacing all the other Linux distributions because it's simply better
in every measurable way.
true Linux aficionado would never use it or recommend it in any way.
On Sun, 8 Jun 2025 05:50:09 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:
At this point, all Linux developers could concentrate only on Linux
Mint and Cinnamon.
Trolling again?
On 8 Jun 2025 06:49:28 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in <makq3oFl3s1U3@mid.individual.net>:
On Sun, 8 Jun 2025 05:50:09 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:
At this point, all Linux developers could concentrate only on Linux
Mint and Cinnamon.
Trolling again?
"Altie" is no ordinary troll.
They are a true humorist. :)
On 01 Jun 2025 10:43:31 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
So as I said, it's a good distro for a beginner. For a more experienced
user, he can choose either to stick with it or to keep it, I don't care.
But saying that using something else than Mint is only to do thing more
difficult is just garbage. I maintained it: the sentence I was answering
was garbage.
The overall consensus of this group seems to be that Linux Mint is the
best Linux distro ever conceived and implemented. If there were only one distribution of Linux, it seems that most current Linux users agree that
it would need to be Mint, preferably with Cinnamon as the DE.
If we could all propagate this knowledge to the rest of the computing
world, imagine how much stronger and unified Linux would become. Linux
Mint would rival Windows almost immediately, in my opinion, if Linux Mint
was the only choice available.
At this point, all Linux developers could concentrate only on Linux Mint
and Cinnamon.
It would be great; it would be a true revolution.
On 2025-06-08, CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> wrote:
On 01 Jun 2025 10:43:31 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:I am a pure end user and while I have some sysadmin experience I am not
So as I said, it's a good distro for a beginner. For a more
experienced user, he can choose either to stick with it or to keep it,
I don't care.
But saying that using something else than Mint is only to do thing
more difficult is just garbage. I maintained it: the sentence I was
answering was garbage.
The overall consensus of this group seems to be that Linux Mint is the
best Linux distro ever conceived and implemented. If there were only
one distribution of Linux, it seems that most current Linux users agree
that it would need to be Mint, preferably with Cinnamon as the DE.
If we could all propagate this knowledge to the rest of the computing
world, imagine how much stronger and unified Linux would become. Linux
Mint would rival Windows almost immediately, in my opinion, if Linux
Mint was the only choice available.
At this point, all Linux developers could concentrate only on Linux
Mint and Cinnamon.
It would be great; it would be a true revolution.
a programmer, coder or anything like that.
I've tried all of the popular distributions and while I used to be a
MXLinux fan, LinuxMint has replaced that.
The default menus are much better, there isn't 10 different selections
or tools to use for a task.
And it just works with my hardware.
The support is also very good and up to date.
The selling point for Linux is that there is something for everyone and
all you have to do is spend a little time doing research. You can't go
wrong with any of the say top 20 distributions on Distrowatch though.
I think hardcore Linux users like for their computing experience to be ...
On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 01:18:27 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
<snip>
Same here, just a regular user. Much like you, I've tried numerous
distros and none of them, zero, hold a candle to Mint in terms of ease of use, compatibility, possibilities of customization, a great combination of pre-installed software, and likely the best community support options available for Linux.
I'm a computer user, not a Linux "enthusiast" who actively searches for
the most difficult and convoluted ways to achieve a simple task to give myself a sense of achievement.
I like graphical interfaces; to hell with terminal commands. I use the terminal only when absolutely necessary. I also like the hardware
component called a mouse. I could care less about keyboard commands.
I think hardcore Linux users like for their computing experience to be
akin to early implementations of 86-DOS, MS-DOS, and later PC-DOS to give them a feeling of being different, being unique, and superior to those who like pretty things and buttons that can be clicked on.
They'd rather stare at a screen of black with bright white letters and imagine they are in a mid-1980's Sci-Fi movie.
CtrlAltConcernTroll wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 01:18:27 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
<snip>
Same here, just a regular user. Much like you, I've tried numerous
distros and none of them, zero, hold a candle to Mint in terms of ease
of use, compatibility, possibilities of customization, a great
combination of pre-installed software, and likely the best community
support options available for Linux.
I'm a computer user, not a Linux "enthusiast" who actively searches for
the most difficult and convoluted ways to achieve a simple task to give
myself a sense of achievement.
No one does that, except on occasion when forced to, to fix things,
or even for fun.
I like graphical interfaces; to hell with terminal commands. I use the
terminal only when absolutely necessary. I also like the hardware
component called a mouse. I could care less about keyboard commands.
Then why are you named after one? :-D
I think hardcore Linux users like for their computing experience to be
akin to early implementations of 86-DOS, MS-DOS, and later PC-DOS to
give them a feeling of being different, being unique, and superior to
those who like pretty things and buttons that can be clicked on.
Bullshit.
They'd rather stare at a screen of black with bright white letters and
imagine they are in a mid-1980's Sci-Fi movie.
Bullshit.
CtrlAltConcernTroll wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
I like graphical interfaces; to hell with terminal commands. I use the
terminal only when absolutely necessary. I also like the hardware
component called a mouse. I could care less about keyboard commands.
Then why are you named after one? :-D
Peanuts are not a nut. They're a legume, related to peas. And George Washington Carver didn't invent them, he found ways to use them so poor farmers in the south could raise something other than cotton. And people don't choose peanuts over other nuts because they're better tasting.
They choose them because, not being nuts, they can be grown and
harvested more cheaply than nuts. Peanuts are actually a compromise.
They'd rather stare at a screen of black with bright white letters and imagine they are in a mid-1980's Sci-Fi movie.
On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 08:40:31 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote in <1026ko0$hj96$2@dont-email.me>:
CtrlAltConcernTroll wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 01:18:27 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
<snip>
Same here, just a regular user. Much like you, I've tried numerous
distros and none of them, zero, hold a candle to Mint in terms of ease
of use, compatibility, possibilities of customization, a great
combination of pre-installed software, and likely the best community
support options available for Linux.
I'm a computer user, not a Linux "enthusiast" who actively searches for
the most difficult and convoluted ways to achieve a simple task to give
myself a sense of achievement.
No one does that, except on occasion when forced to, to fix things,
or even for fun.
I like graphical interfaces; to hell with terminal commands. I use the
terminal only when absolutely necessary. I also like the hardware
component called a mouse. I could care less about keyboard commands.
Then why are you named after one? :-D
I think hardcore Linux users like for their computing experience to be
akin to early implementations of 86-DOS, MS-DOS, and later PC-DOS to
give them a feeling of being different, being unique, and superior to
those who like pretty things and buttons that can be clicked on.
Bullshit.
They'd rather stare at a screen of black with bright white letters and
imagine they are in a mid-1980's Sci-Fi movie.
Bullshit.
Of course it's all bullshit.
(I'm not happy unless I have green screen. In fact, I regularly run
my terminals through phosphor(6) for maximum realism!)
On Mon, 09 Jun 2025 10:27:00 +0000, CtrlAltDel wrote:
I think hardcore Linux users like for their computing experience to beDon't ever believe that you can actually comprehend the mind of a knowledgeable and sophisticated computer user.
...
You are just a simpleton bystander and thus can be quite satisfied with
a pile of junk like Mint.
However, we, that is the competent users, do not prefer that our
machines be seriously crippled with generically tuned software and scads
of useless security features, and we catagorically reject that
abomination known as "systemd."
Furthermore, the purpose of a computer is to be programmed by the user
and any system that does not facilitate such programming is undesirable.
I don't want all of Linux in one basket.
One of the main reasons I don't like Windows or Mac OS is that you have
to take whatever it is they give you. I don't want that lack of choice
for Linux.
Choice is good. Lack of choice means someone controls you.
I'm using Cinnamon with Debian, actually, it's merely the DE though,
Debian's makeup is substantially different from Mint's, although it
matters little in terms of what software either can run, I'm more
confident that I will have an upgrade path with Debian, but in either
case you have to blend sources.
Okay. Peanut butter is not that big of deal to me (although I used to
like Reese's Peanut Butter Cups quite a bit). My Dad grew up in Hershey,
PA. According to him, Hershey wanted to buy Reese's but H.B. Reese
wouldn't sell. Hershey's then threatened to stop selling chocolate to
him. Apparently Reese used his iron-clad contract to make sure Hershey's
kept selling to him. Harry Reese died in 1956 (about ten days before I
was born). By 1963 his sons had "merged" with Hershey's.
You are the type of Linux user that gives it a bad name. The whole eco- system of Linux will be much better off when your type go back to Windows where you likely started.
I basically quit eating sugar a few years back, and found out that
peanut butter was loaded with sugar (at least the name brands). It
sounds like what you're eating isn't the standard peanut butter, though (ditto with your almond butter, which I've never tried). I don't think I would like cashew butter, but I do like cashews. I didn't know anything
about their shells or know they weren't really a nut.
On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 08:40:31 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
CtrlAltConcernTroll wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
I like graphical interfaces; to hell with terminal commands. I use the
terminal only when absolutely necessary. I also like the hardware
component called a mouse. I could care less about keyboard commands.
Then why are you named after one? :-D
https://cad-comic.com/
vallor wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 08:40:31 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
wrote in <1026ko0$hj96$2@dont-email.me>:
CtrlAltConcernTroll wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 01:18:27 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
<snip>
Same here, just a regular user. Much like you, I've tried numerous
distros and none of them, zero, hold a candle to Mint in terms of ease >>>> of use, compatibility, possibilities of customization, a great
combination of pre-installed software, and likely the best community
support options available for Linux.
I'm a computer user, not a Linux "enthusiast" who actively searches for >>>> the most difficult and convoluted ways to achieve a simple task to give >>>> myself a sense of achievement.
No one does that, except on occasion when forced to, to fix things,
or even for fun.
I like graphical interfaces; to hell with terminal commands. I use the >>>> terminal only when absolutely necessary. I also like the hardware
component called a mouse. I could care less about keyboard commands.
Then why are you named after one? :-D
I think hardcore Linux users like for their computing experience to be >>>> akin to early implementations of 86-DOS, MS-DOS, and later PC-DOS to
give them a feeling of being different, being unique, and superior to
those who like pretty things and buttons that can be clicked on.
Bullshit.
They'd rather stare at a screen of black with bright white letters and >>>> imagine they are in a mid-1980's Sci-Fi movie.
Bullshit.
Of course it's all bullshit.
(I'm not happy unless I have green screen. In fact, I regularly run
my terminals through phosphor(6) for maximum realism!)
I sometimes use picom for a grayscale set of windows (does not affect
the root window). Script too long to post.
Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 21:03 this Monday (GMT):
vallor wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 08:40:31 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> >>> wrote in <1026ko0$hj96$2@dont-email.me>:
CtrlAltConcernTroll wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 01:18:27 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
<snip>
Same here, just a regular user. Much like you, I've tried numerous
distros and none of them, zero, hold a candle to Mint in terms of ease >>>>> of use, compatibility, possibilities of customization, a great
combination of pre-installed software, and likely the best community >>>>> support options available for Linux.
I'm a computer user, not a Linux "enthusiast" who actively searches for >>>>> the most difficult and convoluted ways to achieve a simple task to give >>>>> myself a sense of achievement.
No one does that, except on occasion when forced to, to fix things,
or even for fun.
I like graphical interfaces; to hell with terminal commands. I use the >>>>> terminal only when absolutely necessary. I also like the hardwareThen why are you named after one? :-D
component called a mouse. I could care less about keyboard commands. >>>>
I think hardcore Linux users like for their computing experience to be >>>>> akin to early implementations of 86-DOS, MS-DOS, and later PC-DOS to >>>>> give them a feeling of being different, being unique, and superior to >>>>> those who like pretty things and buttons that can be clicked on.
Bullshit.
They'd rather stare at a screen of black with bright white letters and >>>>> imagine they are in a mid-1980's Sci-Fi movie.
Bullshit.
Of course it's all bullshit.
(I'm not happy unless I have green screen. In fact, I regularly run
my terminals through phosphor(6) for maximum realism!)
Phosphor and apple2 are fun to mess with, but a lot of programs are too slow/break the display. And it's a bit annoying to add the xscreensaver libexec path to your path.
I sometimes use picom for a grayscale set of windows (does not affect
the root window). Script too long to post.
You can add color filters to picom? I've been using it for a while and
had no idea.
You would have to have used Linux Mint to understand what is being
discussed.
Mint transcends mere Linux and is sort of in a class of its
own, unsurpassed in excellence.
I very seriously doubt you have ever even tried Mint,
so your opinion carries little weight.
The slogan of Linux Mint is "from freedom came elegance".
And, frankly, there is no distro more elegant,
more sleek, more modern, and more pleasing to use than Linux Mint Cinnamon edition.
kind of like an old Beetle Volkswagen, instead of just driving a Cadillac.
On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 09:12:30 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
I don't want all of Linux in one basket.
One of the main reasons I don't like Windows or Mac OS is that you have
to take whatever it is they give you. I don't want that lack of choice
for Linux.
Choice is good. Lack of choice means someone controls you.
I would never advocate for lack of choice,
only to make all the choices available to be Linux Mint.
With all concentration on Linux Mint alone, it could be further
developed to please everyone.
Same here, just a regular user.
Much like you, I've tried numerous distros
and none of them, zero, hold a candle to Mint in terms of ease of
use, compatibility, possibilities of customization, a great combination of pre-installed software, and likely the best community support options available for Linux.
I'm a computer user, not a Linux "enthusiast" who actively searches for
the most difficult and convoluted ways to achieve a simple task to give myself a sense of achievement.
I think
hardcore Linux users like for their computing experience to be
akin to early implementations of 86-DOS, MS-DOS, and later PC-DOS to give them a feeling of being different, being unique, and superior to those who like pretty things and buttons that can be clicked on.
Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
Le 11-06-2025, CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> a écrit :
On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 09:12:30 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
I don't want all of Linux in one basket.
One of the main reasons I don't like Windows or Mac OS is that you
have to take whatever it is they give you. I don't want that lack of
choice for Linux.
Choice is good. Lack of choice means someone controls you.
I would never advocate for lack of choice,
You just do it in each of your messages about Mint.
only to make all the choices available to be Linux Mint.
Which is another proof you don't understand the technical differences >>between distros. What you want would be at the same time a huge amount
of work for the maintainers and a very difficult task to install it.
With all concentration on Linux Mint alone, it could be further
developed to please everyone.
You can dream as long as you want, your sentence is just plain wrong.
It's way more easier to have multiple distros with different purposes
than one distro with every incompatible options available at the same
time.
Mint is a great place to start, to learn the ropes of running Linux, it
makes certain key things easier, but with room for exploration. That
being said, I'm past the stage of needing such a friendly distro,
Debian rivals Mint's robustness, and offers the Cinnamon DE natively,
without being so Windows-like.
Le 08-06-2025, CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> a écrit :
You would have to have used Linux Mint to understand what is being
discussed.
From your other messages, I'd say you know only Mint and don't
understand the differences between the different distros.
Mint transcends mere Linux and is sort of in a class of its own,
unsurpassed in excellence.
It's not enough to put cool words the ones behind the others to make a
true meaningful sentence. Unlike you, I can argue on a technical point
of view not on a poetry point of view about Linux.
I very seriously doubt you have ever even tried Mint,
He probably doesn't but there is no need to try it to have more
knowledge than you about the different distros.
so your opinion carries little weight.
His opinion carries little weight, but not because he didn't try it,
because he he knows nothing about Linux. In that, you are both at the
same level to discuss Linux.
The slogan of Linux Mint is "from freedom came elegance".
Yes, you argue about slogans, not about a technical point of view
because you can't. So, you can't understand the real subject, you can
just put words on an impression. He has found you just well adapted to
speak with him.
And, frankly, there is no distro more elegant,
Any distro can look exactly the same as Mint. You know nothing and you
just proved it, if wasn't already obvious.
more sleek, more modern, and more pleasing to use than Linux Mint
Cinnamon edition.
I could repeat the previous sentence with every word you put after
"more" but it would be only a waste of time.
kind of like an old Beetle Volkswagen, instead of just driving a
Cadillac.
Good, an analogy with cars, I'll be able to answer in the same way you
can understand. You are the one who would compare two cars only looking
at their pictures and decide the best one is the most beautiful one, oblivious to their technical characteristics. You opinion is just as
useless as it's wrong.
You will be very well together to speak nonsense about Linux.
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