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  • A Rude Shock For The Distro Lackeys

    From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 28 10:08:34 2025
    Linux kernel 6.16 will bring a new option, the X86_NATIVE_CPU
    option.

    https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-6.16-X86_NATIVE_CPU

    Setting this options allows the kernel to be built with the
    "-march=native" compiler optimization. The resulting kernel
    will fit the hardware more closely and improve performance.

    Now why the fuck would these very smart developers do this?
    Do you think that it might actually and really improve kernel
    performance?

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

    The real question is why the fuck didn't they do this
    much earlier?

    Unless *all* of your software is built with "-march=native"
    then you belong in a padded cell and a straitjacket and
    also a waiting list for a lobotomy.



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  • From Borax Man@21:1/5 to Farley Flud on Wed May 28 11:40:12 2025
    On 2025-05-28, Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> wrote:
    Linux kernel 6.16 will bring a new option, the X86_NATIVE_CPU
    option.

    https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-6.16-X86_NATIVE_CPU

    Setting this options allows the kernel to be built with the
    "-march=native" compiler optimization. The resulting kernel
    will fit the hardware more closely and improve performance.

    Now why the fuck would these very smart developers do this?
    Do you think that it might actually and really improve kernel
    performance?

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

    The real question is why the fuck didn't they do this
    much earlier?

    Unless *all* of your software is built with "-march=native"
    then you belong in a padded cell and a straitjacket and
    also a waiting list for a lobotomy.


    I mostly use the distro provided binaries. Almost never does this
    compiler flag make any significant or observable difference.

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 29 02:49:59 2025
    On Wed, 28 May 2025 10:08:34 +0000, Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux>
    wrote in <1843a903ff7e9650$85557$3102$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>:

    Linux kernel 6.16 will bring a new option, the X86_NATIVE_CPU
    option.

    Yawn. Old news -- already saw them playing with it in linux-next.

    $ fgrep NATIVE linux-next-next-20250509/.config
    CONFIG_CC_HAS_MARCH_NATIVE=y
    # CONFIG_X86_NATIVE_CPU is not set

    BTW...why aren't you running 6.15 yet? (Rhetorical question.)

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Thu May 29 03:20:10 2025
    On Wed, 28 May 2025 20:00:34 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in <gqedncbX_PF6UKr1nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    vallor wrote:
    On Wed, 28 May 2025 10:08:34 +0000, Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux>
    wrote in <1843a903ff7e9650$85557$3102$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>:

    Linux kernel 6.16 will bring a new option, the X86_NATIVE_CPU
    option.

    Yawn. Old news -- already saw them playing with it in linux-next.

    $ fgrep NATIVE linux-next-next-20250509/.config
    CONFIG_CC_HAS_MARCH_NATIVE=y
    # CONFIG_X86_NATIVE_CPU is not set

    BTW...why aren't you running 6.15 yet? (Rhetorical question.)

    because i said don't

    Well yeah, I know _you_ won't...you're stuck with BabbleOS 0.9.

    FF isn't running Linux 6.15 because his distro hasn't given it to
    him yet, and he's a distro lackey.

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Thu May 29 03:37:14 2025
    On Wed, 28 May 2025 20:24:20 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in <BimdnWest-78Tqr1nZ2dnZfqn_EAAAAA@giganews.com>:

    vallor wrote:
    On Wed, 28 May 2025 20:00:34 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
    <gqedncbX_PF6UKr1nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    vallor wrote:
    On Wed, 28 May 2025 10:08:34 +0000, Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> >>>> wrote in <1843a903ff7e9650$85557$3102$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>: >>>>
    Linux kernel 6.16 will bring a new option, the X86_NATIVE_CPU
    option.

    Yawn. Old news -- already saw them playing with it in linux-next.

    $ fgrep NATIVE linux-next-next-20250509/.config
    CONFIG_CC_HAS_MARCH_NATIVE=y
    # CONFIG_X86_NATIVE_CPU is not set

    BTW...why aren't you running 6.15 yet? (Rhetorical question.)

    because i said don't

    Well yeah, I know _you_ won't...you're stuck with BabbleOS 0.9.

    FF isn't running Linux 6.15 because his distro hasn't given it to
    him yet, and he's a distro lackey.

    i have enough computers and ,
    enough operating systems to make yours ,
    look like coleco vision , never think all you see ,
    is all there is

    Good advice. However...

    User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:128.0) Gecko/20100101
    Firefox/128.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.20

    Very clever, Mr. %, appearing to use Windows 10 on an x86 -- when in
    fact, you're running HP\UX on PA-RISC! 😱️

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to ldo@nz.invalid on Thu May 29 07:52:46 2025
    On Thu, 29 May 2025 07:28:46 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <10192be$3olom$5@dont-email.me>:

    Shouldn’t that be “HP/UX”?

    #DOSLexiaStrikesAgain

    I think it used to use the backslash, but now looking
    at the wiki, it just uses a dash.

    So: HP-UX.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 29 07:28:46 2025
    Shouldn’t that be “HP/UX”?

    #DOSLexiaStrikesAgain

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Fri May 30 10:28:09 2025
    On Thu, 29 May 2025 06:39:49 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in <VuOdnf0zRddc_qX1nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>:

    vallor wrote:
    On Thu, 29 May 2025 07:28:46 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <10192be$3olom$5@dont-email.me>:

    Shouldn’t that be “HP/UX”?

    #DOSLexiaStrikesAgain

    I think it used to use the backslash, but now looking at the wiki, it
    just uses a dash.

    So: HP-UX.

    what brains that takes

    What put a burr up your butt?

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