(But the best builds can only be had with Gentoo and "-march=native"
plus security disables.)
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 16:37:23 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:
(But the best builds can only be had with Gentoo and "-march=native"
plus security disables.)
I thought Linux Mint was the best?
As for "Clear Linux", who cares? There are still approximately 1337
distros.
Intel probably gave up on it because - are you sitting down? - there
was no
money in it. And with the world going Arm, Intel needs all the cash it
can get.
And with the world going Arm...
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 01:18:37 +0000, Tyrone wrote:
And with the world going Arm...Your world, the world of goofs and morons, may be going Arm, but the intelligent world is going RISC-V.
However RISC-V processors need
to perform better before the intelligent world notices.
Although I would never use this distro, I had to admire them
for building everything with x86-64-v2,v3,v4 as opposed to the
generic tuning offered by virtually all other distros.
It would be nice to see if a real performance difference exists for the builds.
CtrlAltDel wrote:
I thought Linux Mint was the best?
The "best" is whatever YOU use. Otherwise, why are YOU using it?
That's how "advocacy" groups have always worked, because that's how the minds >of little boys work. "I use ABC and that makes me a man". "You use XYZ and >that makes you a pussy".
Clear Linux, sponsored by mighty Intel, is now defunct:
https://community.clearlinux.org/t/all-good-things-come-to-an-end-shutting-down-clear-linux-os/10716
Although I would never use this distro, I had to admire them
for building everything with x86-64-v2,v3,v4 as opposed to the
generic tuning offered by virtually all other distros.
(But the best builds can only be had with Gentoo and "-march=native"
plus security disables.)
No reason for the cancellation was given.
Distros DIE. Often there's only one or two people
behind/supporting them. They all think they have
the Better Idea. Alas, usually, it's not all THAT
much better.
Stick to the mainstreams - Debs, RHEL derivs, Arch
derivs. They have a future.
On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 03:43:20 -0400, c186282 wrote:
Distros DIE. Often there's only one or two people
behind/supporting them. They all think they have
the Better Idea. Alas, usually, it's not all THAT
much better.
Clear Linux is dead. Long live Clear Linux:
<https://cachyos.org/>
Stick to the mainstreams - Debs, RHEL derivs, Arch
derivs. They have a future.
In my perspective, a GNU/Linux distro, mainstream or otherwise, should only be a stepping stone toward complete self-sufficiency and independence with
a personal distro like Gentoo or Linux From Scratch.
IOW, a distro should only be a temporary solution that allows usage of GNU/Linux
during a learning period. After learning GNU/Linux then comes liberation and independence.
If one has been using a GNU/Linux distro for more than 2-3 years without graduating to LFS/Gentoo then there is a serious problem somewhere.
A GNU/Linux distro that makes this point clear is Exherbo, which amazingly
is still alive:
<https://www.exherbo.org/docs/>
From the Exherbo manifesto:
"First of all you need to understand that using Exherbo is an active commitment.
We fully expect you to help with development or other parts of the project. In return
you get to have lots of fun, learn some new things and will generally have a much
easier time getting help as you already know the workflow in Exherbo."
All GNU/Linux distros need to demand the same commitment.
Ha, ha, ha, ha! I can see the panties starting to twist on all the freeloaders!
Farley Flud wrote:
c186282 wrote:
Stick to the mainstreams - Debs, RHEL derivs, Arch
derivs. They have a future.
In my perspective, a GNU/Linux distro, mainstream or otherwise, should only >> be a stepping stone toward complete self-sufficiency and independence with >> a personal distro like Gentoo or Linux From Scratch.
Why?
For many, Linux is just a way to own a personal computer and use it to
'do stuff'.
On 25/07/2025 11:09, Farley Flud wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 03:43:20 -0400, c186282 wrote:Why?
Distros DIE. Often there's only one or two people
behind/supporting them. They all think they have
the Better Idea. Alas, usually, it's not all THAT
much better.
Clear Linux is dead. Long live Clear Linux:
<https://cachyos.org/>
Stick to the mainstreams - Debs, RHEL derivs, Arch
derivs. They have a future.
In my perspective, a GNU/Linux distro, mainstream or otherwise, should
only
be a stepping stone toward complete self-sufficiency and independence
with
a personal distro like Gentoo or Linux From Scratch.
For many, Linux is just a way to own a personal computer and use it to
'do stuff'.
On 2025-07-25 12:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 25/07/2025 11:09, Farley Flud wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 03:43:20 -0400, c186282 wrote:Why?
Distros DIE. Often there's only one or two people
behind/supporting them. They all think they have
the Better Idea. Alas, usually, it's not all THAT
much better.
Clear Linux is dead. Long live Clear Linux:
<https://cachyos.org/>
Stick to the mainstreams - Debs, RHEL derivs, Arch
derivs. They have a future.
In my perspective, a GNU/Linux distro, mainstream or otherwise,
should only
be a stepping stone toward complete self-sufficiency and independence
with
a personal distro like Gentoo or Linux From Scratch.
For many, Linux is just a way to own a personal computer and use it to
'do stuff'.
Absolutely.
Our jobs is not to make computers, but using them for another goal.
On 25/07/2025 11:09, Farley Flud wrote:[snip]
A GNU/Linux distro that makes this point clear is Exherbo, which amazingly >> is still alive:Well its a personal view, and is why I avoid distros like that.
<https://www.exherbo.org/docs/>
From the Exherbo manifesto:
"First of all you need to understand that using Exherbo is an active commitment.
We fully expect you to help with development or other parts of the project. In return
you get to have lots of fun, learn some new things and will generally have a much
easier time getting help as you already know the workflow in Exherbo."
All GNU/Linux distros need to demand the same commitment.
Ha, ha, ha, ha! I can see the panties starting to twist on all the freeloaders!
I want a stable desktop environment on a *86 computer, or a stable
server environment on an ARM SBC.
On 25/07/2025 13:35, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-07-25 12:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:It really depends. The great thing is Linux covers all the bases.
On 25/07/2025 11:09, Farley Flud wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 03:43:20 -0400, c186282 wrote:Why?
Distros DIE. Often there's only one or two people
behind/supporting them. They all think they have
the Better Idea. Alas, usually, it's not all THAT
much better.
Clear Linux is dead. Long live Clear Linux:
<https://cachyos.org/>
Stick to the mainstreams - Debs, RHEL derivs, Arch
derivs. They have a future.
In my perspective, a GNU/Linux distro, mainstream or otherwise,
should only
be a stepping stone toward complete self-sufficiency and
independence with
a personal distro like Gentoo or Linux From Scratch.
For many, Linux is just a way to own a personal computer and use it
to 'do stuff'.
Absolutely.
Our jobs is not to make computers, but using them for another goal.
The great thing is Linux covers all the bases.
On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 03:43:20 -0400, c186282 wrote:
[.../SNIP/...]
Clear Linux is dead.
Long live Clear Linux:
<https://cachyos.org/>
Stick to the mainstreams - Debs, RHEL derivs, Arch
derivs. They have a future.
In my perspective,
If one has been using a GNU/Linux distro for more than 2-3 years without graduating to LFS/Gentoo then there is a serious problem somewhere.
A GNU/Linux distro that makes this point clear is Exherbo, which amazingly
is still alive:
<https://www.exherbo.org/docs/>
From the Exherbo manifesto:
"First of all you need to understand that using Exherbo is an active commitment.
We fully expect you to help with development or other parts of the project. In return
you get to have lots of fun, learn some new things and will generally have a much
easier time getting help as you already know the workflow in Exherbo."
All GNU/Linux distros need to demand the same commitment.
Ha, ha, ha, ha! I can see the panties starting to twist on all the freeloaders!
I don't think
Long live Clear Linux:
<https://cachyos.org/>
First, I don"t understand the relation between both distros.
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