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  • Re: Microsoft caters to people with money. Duh! No Shit. (was: Microsof

    From Tyrone@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 22 22:14:25 2025
    Which is what ALL businesses do. What should a business do? Cater to people with no money?

    Feel free to start a business and give things away. Let us know how that works out.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Tyrone on Wed Jul 23 07:47:53 2025
    Tyrone wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Which is what ALL businesses do. What should a business do? Cater to people with no money?

    Feel free to start a business and give things away. Let us know how that works
    out.

    Ever heard of Google? Facebook? . . .

    --
    <doogie> joy/elmo: why can't the same ip be used? was this fire so
    great that it burned the ip address?

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Wed Jul 23 17:18:03 2025
    On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 07:47:53 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    Tyrone wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Which is what ALL businesses do. What should a business do? Cater to
    people with no money?

    Feel free to start a business and give things away. Let us know how
    that works out.

    Ever heard of Google? Facebook? . . .

    Google is a master of bait'n'switch. About 20 years ago the Google map API
    was free like in beer. Then they monetized it with a passion. I did a
    proof of concept using the API and then it was time to talk to the
    Chocolate Factory to find out the cost of using it in production. "How
    much ya got?" was the way the conversation went. We didn't use it.

    geocaching.com was sort of a new thing at the time and had been using
    Google. When they got the new TOS they beat feet. The map attribution
    today is 'Leaflet | © MapTiler © OpenStreetMap © Esri contributors'.

    I'm surprised gmail is still 'free' but it is the basis for everything
    else in the Google world. Got an Android phone? Since Google bought
    Fitbit, want to see your data or, better yet, give your data to Google?'
    How many sites do you hit a 'Continue with your Google Account' dialog.

    I've not idea about FB, never used it. Back when it was first starting to
    get popular Zuckerberg reminded me of a flaming asshole I knew IRL so I
    passed. I have had no reason to revise that opinion.

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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Wed Jul 23 14:52:19 2025
    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    Feel free to start a business and give things away. Let us know how that works
    out.

    Ever heard of Google? Facebook? .

    I've heard that it would only cost $7 a year to pay FB enough to make
    what they do off most people today, with their selling your data. $7
    a year for some privacy. But most people wouldn't pay it.

    --
    "Stop demanding these people give their code away so that their
    competitors can steal their hard earned IP." - "True Linux
    advocate" Hadron Quark

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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to rbowman on Wed Jul 23 14:49:57 2025
    rbowman wrote:

    How many sites do you hit a 'Continue with your Google Account' dialog.

    I always decline that offer.

    I've not idea about FB, never used it.

    I've got an account. Very sparse, hasn't been updated in years.

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  • From Tyrone@21:1/5 to Joel on Thu Jul 24 00:19:21 2025
    On Jul 22, 2025 at 8:15:49 PM EDT, "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

    Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:

    Which is what ALL businesses do. What should a business do? Cater to people >> with no money?

    Feel free to start a business and give things away. Let us know how that works
    out.


    Yeah but they abandon their previous customers. Get the point.

    All companies do eventually. You can't continue to support all products forever.

    Get the point indeed.

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  • From Tyrone@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 24 00:17:04 2025
    On Jul 23, 2025 at 7:47:53 AM EDT, "Chris Ahlstrom" <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    Tyrone wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Which is what ALL businesses do. What should a business do? Cater to people >> with no money?

    Feel free to start a business and give things away. Let us know how that works
    out.

    Ever heard of Google? Facebook? . . .

    Yes. Neither are giving things away. What is your point?

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Tyrone on Fri Jul 25 02:57:07 2025
    On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 00:17:04 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

    Ever heard of Google? Facebook? . . .

    Yes. Neither are giving things away.

    When was the last time you gave either of them money?

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Fri Jul 25 05:19:40 2025
    On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 02:57:07 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 00:17:04 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

    Ever heard of Google? Facebook? . . .

    Yes. Neither are giving things away.

    When was the last time you gave either of them money?

    What is your data worth? Anonymous, of course... Click throughs to
    sponsored advertisers?

    https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/2/24147007/google-paid-apple-20-billion- in-2022-to-be-safaris-default-search-engine

    Lemme see... They paid Apple 20 billion and give away their search engine
    with no way to monetize it? They must be crazier than shit house rats.

    No, you don't give them money out of pocket like the $3.42 I just gave Wikipedia, but you give them eyeballs.

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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to rbowman on Fri Jul 25 07:28:57 2025
    rbowman wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    Tyrone wrote:

    Ever heard of Google? Facebook? . . .

    Yes. Neither are giving things away.

    When was the last time you gave either of them money?

    What is your data worth? Anonymous, of course... Click throughs to
    sponsored advertisers?
    < >https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/2/24147007/google-paid-apple-20-billion-in-2022-to-be-safaris-default-search-engine

    Lemme see... They paid Apple 20 billion and give away their search engine >with no way to monetize it? They must be crazier than shit house rats.

    No, you don't give them money out of pocket like the $3.42 I just gave >Wikipedia, but you give them eyeballs.

    It can be reasonably stated that they give things away.

    --
    "Giving it away for free, with the source code, is a schtick. A slimy
    schtick at that." - some dumb fsck

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