NVidia has been working on a desktop PC chip (presumably ARM-based,
though the article does not make this explicit), but this has hit
delays, according to <https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/nvidias-desktop-pc-chip-holdup-purportedly-tied-to-windows-delays-ongoing-chip-revisions-and-weakening-demand-also-blamed>.
Seems the delays are not (solely) down to hardware development
problems, as previously reported; instead
... the new information points toward a broader set of factors,
including Microsoft’s slower-than-expected OS roadmap and
weakening demand across the notebook market.
Wonder what “slower-than-expected OS roadmap” means? Does it mean Microsoft is having trouble making Windows-on-ARM fit for production
use?
Actually Windows on Arm is just fine. I run it every day. The problem is STILL that lots of business-critical stuff has not been recompiled for
Arm. So it either runs slowly in emulation or not at all, depending on
how badly it was written.
Actually Windows on Arm is just fine. I run it every day. The problem is STILL that lots of business-critical stuff has not been recompiled for
Arm. So it either runs slowly in emulation or not at all, depending on
how badly it was written.
Hard to blame MS for that. Hell, there are businesses STILL running old
DOS stuff and 16 bit Windows stuff.
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 22:39:02 +0000, Tyrone wrote:
Actually Windows on Arm is just fine. I run it every day. The problem
is STILL that lots of business-critical stuff has not been recompiled
for Arm. So it either runs slowly in emulation or not at all, depending
on how badly it was written.
In other words, Windows-on-ARM is *not* fine.
As I keep getting told over and over, people don’t want to run Windows, they want to run their Windows apps. If those don’t work, then you might
as well forget it.
Until Microsoft can fix Windows-on-ARM, people aren’t going to touch it.
Wonder what “slower-than-expected OS roadmap” means? Does it mean Microsoft is having trouble making Windows-on-ARM fit for production
use?
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 22:39:02 +0000, Tyrone wrote:
Actually Windows on Arm is just fine. I run it every day. The problem
is STILL that lots of business-critical stuff has not been recompiled
for Arm. So it either runs slowly in emulation or not at all, depending
on how badly it was written.
Hard to blame MS for that. Hell, there are businesses STILL running old
DOS stuff and 16 bit Windows stuff.
The history doesn't help. Windows RT left a bad taste. I don't use it
and am pulling a name out of the air but Quciken gets mentioned as a
problem with moving to Linux.
Intuit, or whoever owns it now, already had the experience of
developing incompatible versions for Windows and Mac and should have corporate memories of the pain involved. Microsoft's first Arm attempt,
RT, had the lifespan of a mayfly. Now they're trying again. I think the exclusive contract expired so now there may be other offerings but it
isn't exactly making headlines.
They would understandably be reluctant to do another port until they see
if Windows on Arm has legs this time. Hopefully they do a better job of explaining that WoA isn't WoX64 this time so someone who loves Quicken realizes there isn't a native Arm version and it may run poorly or not
at all in the emulator, so they aren't going to buy a Arm notebook. The Qucken people track the Arm sales and see they're soft which lessens the enthusiasm.
Chicken and egg, and Microsoft has been burned by it before with the
phone and RT.
Windows is too integrated into the x86 architecture at this point.
They need to re-write the kernel from scratch ...
Your obsession with hating Microsoft leads you to say inaccurate things.
Windows is portable. It does work on ARM. Is it as comprehensive as IntelAMD Windows' support, probably not, but some people are willing to sacrifice a little compatibility for a better hardware platform. All
that being said, I'd like to run Linux on ARM.
It occurs to me that there are apps precompiled for IntelAMD on Linux
that would have to be manually compiled for ARM, so maybe for now I'm
better off with the Intel box I have. But the future is wide-open.
Your obsession with hating Microsoft leads you to say inaccurate things.
Windows is portable. It does work on ARM. Is it as comprehensive as IntelAMD Windows' support, probably not, but some people are willing to sacrifice a little compatibility for a better hardware platform. All
that being said, I'd like to run Linux on ARM.
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