• Re: LibreOffice developer's Hotmail account locked after criticizing Mi

    From rbowman@21:1/5 to RonB on Tue Aug 5 18:16:55 2025
    On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 09:06:38 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

    I'm kind of "grandfathered" in. It's my oldest surviving email address.

    I've had the same one since the '90s. My original internet access *
    consisted of a Unix shell account and TIA over a dialup.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Internet_Adapter

    The 'company' was two guys in the back of a golf shop. They're long gone
    after a series of acquisitions. The current company isn't even my ISP but
    I pay $60 a year for the legacy email account.

    * Or Delphi, sort of.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delphi_(online_service)

    Looking back I'm not sure Archie and the Gophers wasn't better than
    today's dross. Sites were about information not ads and annoying popups. I
    find news sites with videos of blow dried creatures of indeterminate sex automatically chattering away annoying. Kill the main one, scroll down to
    the text, and another smaller version pops up.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to rbowman on Tue Aug 5 20:08:38 2025
    On 2025-08-04 22:36, rbowman wrote:
    On Mon, 4 Aug 2025 21:52:48 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    The original Outlook, which I assume is the one he liked, was a bloated,
    clunky mess. The new Outlook is simpler, but I imagine that it's lacking
    a lot of functionality.

    Remember Outlook Express? It lasted up to and including XP. It had nothing
    to do with Outlook and was an entirely different code base. We had an interface that would email information about incidents to interested
    parties. For example a fire chief would be emailed a summary of fire incidents as the occurred.

    The preferred method was SMTP which pretty much worked with any mail
    server, including Exchange, that was properly configured. At one point I added a MAPI option that piggy-backed on Outlook. Outlook is COM based and exposes a good bit of functionality. It definitely did not work with
    Outlook Express.

    I don't think the option was ever used. Sites suddenly decided that configuring Exchange to handle SMTP was easier than replacing the free Outlook Express on the calltaker machines with Outlook.

    That wasn't the only Microsoft offering that kind of, sort of, resembled
    paid applications. Some were limited versions of the full meal deal like
    SQL Express; others shared a name and not much else.

    As sad as this is for me to realize, until you mentioned Outlook
    Express, I had almost forgotten about it. It was my default e-mail
    client after Netscape Mail & News, and I was definitely saddened to see
    it obsoleted. It did everything a person needed an e-mail client to do,
    but I guess that was unforgivable for the people at Microsoft.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    EndeavourOS backer
    Islam aims to conquer
    John 14:6

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to RonB on Tue Aug 5 20:16:48 2025
    On 2025-08-05 05:06, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-08-05, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-08-04 09:35, RonB wrote:
    On 2025-08-04, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    <https://lunduke.substack.com/p/libreoffice-developers-hotmail-account> >>>>
    Mike Kaginski, a LibreOffice developer (who works for Collabora), has
    had his Microsoft-hosted email account, which he uses for open source
    development, locked for “activity that violates our Microsoft Services >>>> Agreement”.

    Kaginski discovered this when attempting to send an email to the
    LibreOffice development mailing list (hosted by FreeDesktop). It remains >>>> unclear if that specific email (which he sent via another address and
    was rather bland and technical) was the reason for the ban… or if
    attempting to send the email was simply the first time the ban was
    noticed by him.

    This happened just days after LibreOffice officially accused Microsoft >>>> of engaging in a “Lock-in” strategy by creating “artificially complex”,
    XML-based office documents.

    Are the two events related? Hard to say with any certainty.

    To make matters worse, Kaginski has had no success in getting Microsoft >>>> to lift his locked email account — with the company making him jump
    through numerous, impossible hoops (such as requiring him to sign in to >>>> submit an appeal for his account being locked… but not allowing him to >>>> sign in… because his account is locked).

    You got that? Sign in to fix the account you can’t sign in with.

    Gotta love a good Catch-22.

    Good job, Microsoft.

    This is not the first I've heard of this specific Catch-22 idiocy from
    Microsoft and I'm very happy I don't deal with these dipshits. At one time I
    had a HotMail account and HotMail was bought out by Microsoft. I haven't had
    that account for years now (never used it after Microsoft took over
    HotMail). I'm also phasing out most of what I do on Gmail and Yahoo. Yahoo >>> is just mostly SPAM anyhow these days.

    People are mostly shocked if you tell them that you have a Yahoo e-mail
    account nowadays. Absolutely no one takes that site seriously anymore.

    I'm kind of "grandfathered" in. It's my oldest surviving email address.

    I had one for a while, but I only used it for spam. Unless Yahoo
    automatically deletes e-mail address that haven't been used for a while,
    it might still be functional.

    It's a different situation, but my brother is so disgusted with Outlook
    (apparently they've done something new and crappy with it recently) that >>> he's developed his own email client for personal use.

    The original Outlook, which I assume is the one he liked, was a bloated,
    clunky mess. The new Outlook is simpler, but I imagine that it's lacking
    a lot of functionality. Either way, I've always been most comfortable
    with Thunderbird and Netscape e-mail before that. I don't think I ever
    liked any other client other than Betterbird which is just Thunderbird
    anyway. Unfortunately, Betterbird has some CalDAV bug now which forced
    me back to the original.

    I think the Outlook he liked was pretty old. He doesn't like any of the new Windows development applications now. He's moving to Linux (slowly but surely). He's still at the stage where, if Linux doesn't do it like Windows, then there's some flaw in Linux. But his hatred for modern Microsoft means he's moving away from Windows anyhow.

    He might as well. I'm not even mad that Microsoft killed Films & TV
    anymore. Sure, if I ran Windows, I'd still have access to the movies I
    bought and could play them, but it just so happens that DVD and Blu-Ray
    are dead too now and people are offloading their movies for like $1 on
    eBay. I'm taking advantage to buy some titles and recreate my library
    without DRM. Anything but go back to Windows.

    As for me, I'm just getting rid of any remaining Windows partitions. I had >>> three or four small Windows 10 (and 11) partitions because the Windows
    licenses were built into the Dell BIOS of these computers and I didn't want >>> to waste the license. I finally figured out I was just wasting my time
    because the only thing I was doing on those partitions is upgrading Windows >>> (which I hate doing) so I just said the hell with it.

    I keep a potable Windows 11 installation on an external SSD because of
    all the movies I bought in Microsoft Movies. However, I don't have any
    interest in installing the operating system anymore either. On the
    Zephyrus laptop, installing Windows means that I have to suffer through
    fTPM stuttering with no hope for a fix. On this Thinkpad E595, Windows
    11 works fine but it's much slower than a typical Endeavour OS install.
    Considering this laptop's purpose is to use in the classroom, Linux is
    better. It's especially the case with KDE where, if students are too
    blind to see what I'm doing on the screen, I can move the mouse really
    fast and the cursor automatically grows to a massive size. It's such a
    stupid function yet incredibly useful to me.

    The only reason I was holding on to Windows was for downloading my B&N Nook eBooks. They're all downloaded now (and liberated from DRM) so I won't be buying from Barnes & Noble anymore. (I don't like it when they try to lock you in, reminds me too much of Microsoft.) I also experimented with Trelby
    on Windows thinking I could figure out how to make it easier to install for Windows' users. I found out I don't have the brain capacity for figuring
    that out. So those were two of the three things I did on Windows. The third was updating it. That's where I spent most of my time when "using" Windows.

    I didn't mind the DRM on book purchases because I figured that I
    wouldn't read a book a second time anyway, and I like the concept of
    readers because I can read a book in public without anyone knowing what
    it is that I am interested in. However, I'm more disgusted with DRM than
    I've ever been before. I already told my wife that I'll be buying
    paperbacks from now on, especially if I can get an autographed copy. I
    still cherish my autographed Gilbert Gottfried biography (it's hilarious).

    On my main computer (since I have two SSDs) it was just a matter of logging >>> into the SSD that didn't have Windows, running Gparted, deleting the Windows
    partition(s) — (there was also a "recover partition), then moving the Linux
    partition (so the former Windows unallocated spaces could be joined), then >>> expanding the Linux partition to use the whole drive. (Moving and expanding >>> done in one step.) It took about two hours on my fairly slow machine, but >>> well worth it. I think I may have one (or two?) remaining windows
    partitions, which I'll soon be removing. Zero need for Windows.

    We've both lived through the sketchy business practices of Microsoft and
    neither of us is shocked that they're pulling shit like closing the
    LibreOffice developer's account. There's a certain satisfaction to
    uninstalling Windows, installing Linux and converting all .docx and
    .xlsx files into the OpenDocument format. Removing their influence just
    feels right.

    Almost everything I write now is just in text format. Rarely do I use a word processor for anything now.

    I might be moving in that direction, especially since it looks like the Document Foundation is no better than Mozilla. I've moved to Calligra in
    the mean time (which takes a shocking 40MB of space compared to the
    gigabyte for LibreOffice) because they haven't bowed to the United
    Nations, as far as I know. It does everything I need it to do anyway.
    I'd go to my beloved AbiWord, but I think it's too basic for my needs now.

    < snip >


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    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    EndeavourOS backer
    Islam aims to conquer
    John 14:6

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to RonB on Wed Aug 6 05:11:27 2025
    On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 22:18:20 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

    I guess I'm used to all that. It's all the AI crap that I really hate. Avoiding it is getting harder all the time.

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/08/enough-is-enough-i-dumped-googles- worsening-search-for-kagi/

    "The company's stated purpose is to deliver useful search results, full
    stop. The goal is not to blast you with AI garbage or bury you in
    "Knowledge Graph" summaries hacked together from posts in a 12-year-old
    Reddit thread between two guys named /u/WeedBoner420 and /u/ 14HitlerWasRight88."


    At least Brave search has the button if you really want an answer from
    Reddit.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to RonB on Thu Aug 7 08:08:25 2025
    On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 05:31:02 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

    Agreed. Not interested in playing with AI. I notice in Texas the
    government there is asking citizens to take shorter and fewer showers
    because they don't have enough water for both the taxpayers and the AI
    server farms — who's owners are probably enjoying government subsidies
    and no taxes for ten years. That's what "business friendly" means in
    Texas, screw the people and kiss up to the corporate asses.

    I've been interested in subsets of AI starting with the first wave of
    neural networks in the '80s, what has become known as machine learning. Unfortunately that is overshadowed by the generative AI hype. I think of
    those as Markov chains on meth or maybe Mad Libs.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Libs

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to RonB on Thu Aug 7 08:26:51 2025
    On 2025-08-07 01:22, RonB wrote:

    < snip >

    He might as well. I'm not even mad that Microsoft killed Films & TV
    anymore. Sure, if I ran Windows, I'd still have access to the movies I
    bought and could play them, but it just so happens that DVD and Blu-Ray
    are dead too now and people are offloading their movies for like $1 on
    eBay. I'm taking advantage to buy some titles and recreate my library
    without DRM. Anything but go back to Windows.

    I don't know if you have access to Fawesome.tv or Tubitv.com or a few more like them, but there are a lot of free movies and TV shows you can stream now.

    Yeah, I have Tubi though I don't use it much. My desire to watch movies
    and TV is pretty minimal nowadays. Even the wife is sick of it. There
    are some movies that I know to be good, and I will be open to buying
    them (like I did in Microsoft Films & TV), but actually watching them is another thing.

    I might be moving in that direction, especially since it looks like the
    Document Foundation is no better than Mozilla. I've moved to Calligra in
    the mean time (which takes a shocking 40MB of space compared to the
    gigabyte for LibreOffice) because they haven't bowed to the United
    Nations, as far as I know. It does everything I need it to do anyway.
    I'd go to my beloved AbiWord, but I think it's too basic for my needs now.

    First time I've heard of Calligra. AbiWord is actually not too bad now. It's gotten some "polish" over the years. Still, if I need a word processor, I'll just go to DOSBox-X and use WordStar for DOS 7. LibreOffice Writer does a good job importing the RTF files (after I convert them from WordStar
    format) if I need to "prettify" the document.

    I am going to look into Calligra out of curiosity. I don't know if I'll install it, but I'm always in word processors. That's the main reason I wanted a computer back the early 1980s, for word processing.

    Calligra is pretty bare bones, but it does the job. I think that for
    most people, LibreOffice is still going to be the better choice.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    EndeavourOS backer
    Islam is the enemy
    John 14:6

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 9 09:37:44 2025
    Le 04-08-2025, Mikey <Mikey.Smith@invalid.invalid> a écrit :
    On 2025-08-04, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    <https://lunduke.substack.com/p/libreoffice-developers-hotmail-account>

    Maybe he had kiddie p*rn on his account?

    I don't believe that's the reason. If it was, he would be under
    investigation by the FBI if he is American, or I don't know which
    organization depending on his country. But Microsoft would strongly give
    the reason.

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