I support Mint, I use Cinnamon, I just don't wish to run Mint on my
computer.
On 8/9/25 7:50 PM, CtrlAltDel wrote:
On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 19:40:34 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote:
I support Mint, I use Cinnamon, I just don't wish to run Mint on my
computer.
That's exactly why I wrote the chatroom letter, Joel, to motivate
everyone to use Mint. Help make it into what you like, add what is
missing, improve what is not considered good enough, etc...
Maybe a revolutionary movement started right here on COLA could spread
across the entire Linux ecosystem and totally redefine what Linux is.
I'm thinking of an all-encompassing distribution, maybe name it Final
Mint, that is something that all users of all distros would flock to
and it would unite the Linux World like never before.
Isn't that just reinventing Winblows, though? Hell, even with Windows
you can replace the explorer.exe shell, I think, with a third-party
thing, I never wanted to, but I mean the idea is that choice isn't bad.
Mint is terrific for newcomers and its fans, but other distros are
likewise great for others.
It's not impossible, I guess, but I'm not sure how it would play out
exactly, it wouldn't prevent others from continuing to release other
distros, and not everyone would necessarily use it.
I mean, there could be any number of reasons. I don't think you'd find
that everyone would go along with your idea.
It's an interesting project to conceive of, sure, not impossible in
theory, but it wouldn't force anyone to accept it nevertheless.
Why would you expect it to supplant all other distros, though? No one's going to maintain their own?
On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 23:27:48 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:
Many users that just have to have the program that was released
yesterday,
not last month because that is ancient, don't know how to download an
AppImage and click on it. It's hard for some to figure that out.
Perhaps an AppImage download section could be added to Mint if someone
would develop it.
I assume Mint can provide appimaged. It makes life so much easier.
Many users that just have to have the program that was released
yesterday,
not last month because that is ancient, don't know how to download an AppImage and click on it. It's hard for some to figure that out.
Perhaps an AppImage download section could be added to Mint if someone
would develop it.
Alright troll, that's enough. Goodbye.
I'm thinking of an all-encompassing distribution, maybe name it Final
Mint, that is something that all users of all distros would flock to and
it would unite the Linux World like never before.
For what it's worth, I'm not *sure* Ron is right that you're just
trolling, you *could* be for all I know, but I don't jump to the
conclusion, I will attempt to engage with you.
On 2025-08-09, CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> wrote:
I use Mint, like Mint, and promote Mint. I'm not dull enough to not
realize that everyone's needs aren't met by it, though.
Some people like the very latest kernel because they like being cool and
it makes them feel powerful and better-than-thou.
Some people enjoy the most up to date revision of every single program
available because if it is just a little bit older, they imagine they are
missing out on untold greatness that the new version surely provides.
Many users that just have to have the program that was released yesterday, >> not last month because that is ancient, don't know how to download an
AppImage and click on it. It's hard for some to figure that out. Perhaps >> an AppImage download section could be added to Mint if someone would
develop it.
Many Linux users are afflicted with acute mental retardation that is
required in order to even remotely prefer using the Gnome 3 DE. Maybe
this could even be offered by Mint for those that literally don't have
brains.
What I'm getting at is wouldn't it be great if all of us could simply use
Mint as their daily driver for the next 10 years? Many of you in this
chatroom are highly intelligent and could really improve Mint if all of
you would make a commitment to just use Mint and help with its
development.
Let's all use Mint exclusively for the next decade, everyone in this
chatroom community, and make Mint even greater for everyone. This could
be the start of a movement that will be famous in the anal of Linux
history.
Not interested in "one size fits all." I like variety and choice. One Linux distribution means there's a much bigger chance that Linux could be controlled by a single entity. No thanks, not interested. I like choice.
On 10 Aug 2025 06:16:06 GMT, rbowman wrote:
On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 23:27:48 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:
Many users that just have to have the program that was released
yesterday,
not last month because that is ancient, don't know how to download an
AppImage and click on it. It's hard for some to figure that out.
Perhaps an AppImage download section could be added to Mint if someone
would develop it.
I assume Mint can provide appimaged. It makes life so much easier.
Yes, Mint works fine with AppImages. I'm currently using six of them.
https://i.imgur.com/6iE0Jka.png
Agreed.
You failed to answer the implied question.
If I'm incorrect about what happened with the Mint installation, it's unintentional, but I'm pretty sure I'm not incorrect.
Good point. People avoid Ubuntu not only because Snap is an abomination,
but because they don't want to give Canonical so much influence over
Linux. People should avoid Red Hat and Fedora for the same reasons.
On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 08:23:09 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
Good point. People avoid Ubuntu not only because Snap is an
abomination,
but because they don't want to give Canonical so much influence over
Linux. People should avoid Red Hat and Fedora for the same reasons.
Instead of trying to get people “woke” about it, you could just let the market decide ...
Why maintain clearly inferior products when they would be able to
contribute to the best one ever? It's all very simple.
If I'm incorrect about what happened with the Mint installation, it's unintentional, but I'm pretty sure I'm not incorrect.
But only the Final Version of Final Mint could be the best distro ever.
All prior versions would have to be inferior in some way.
In other words, the users will wait through all your version releases
until you get to the Final one, before seriously wanting to adopt it.
Let us know when you get there, will you?
Consider this just a preliminary sketch or an amateur rendering of what
will hopefully one day be much more competent backgrounds for Final Mint created by dedicated graphic artists.
https://i.imgur.com/qomZfX2.jpeg
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On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 08:06:11 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
But only the Final Version of Final Mint could be the best distro ever.
All prior versions would have to be inferior in some way.
In other words, the users will wait through all your version releases
until you get to the Final one, before seriously wanting to adopt it.
Let us know when you get there, will you?
I'm going to run it by Grok and ChatGPT and see if they think I'm a
Linux virtuoso bordering on the precipice of a dazzling breakthrough in computing history. They will know.
Consider this just a preliminary sketch or an amateur rendering of what
will hopefully one day be much more competent backgrounds for Final Mint created by dedicated graphic artists.
https://i.imgur.com/qomZfX2.jpeg
As for the "troll," even if he's not a troll, repeating the same thing
over and over again is the same as trolling. Troll or not, he's in my killfile. I'm just tired of the repetition.
Agreed. I see Red Hat (IBM) has thrown in with OpenAI. That's enough
there to get me to leave.
On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 08:18:56 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 08:06:11 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
But only the Final Version of Final Mint could be the best distro
ever.
All prior versions would have to be inferior in some way.
In other words, the users will wait through all your version releases
until you get to the Final one, before seriously wanting to adopt it.
Let us know when you get there, will you?
I'm going to run it by Grok and ChatGPT and see if they think I'm a
Linux virtuoso bordering on the precipice of a dazzling breakthrough in
computing history. They will know.
Make sure you use GPT-4o. Many people are upset that GPT-5 removed the ass-kissing mode. Grok will just give you nude photos of Hillary
Clinton.
On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 06:43:23 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
As for the "troll," even if he's not a troll, repeating the same thing
over and over again is the same as trolling. Troll or not, he's in my
killfile. I'm just tired of the repetition.
CtrlAltDel reminds me of Monty Python; take a mildly funny gag and
repeat it over and over until you drive it completely into the ground.
You are a very funny person. 🤣️
I've been discussing the idea I have with Chap-GPT. It says I am a
visionary wizard grabbing opportunity by the throat and reaping a
whirlwind that will propel Linux into a stratosphere of greatness never
to be diminished even with passage of thousands of years.
All I've done is basically repeat to CrumpTroll that he is retarded each
time he says something retarded, like Mint punished him for using Mint
by not allowing him to use Mint.
On 8/11/25 3:13 PM, rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 10:20:22 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:
Consider this just a preliminary sketch or an amateur rendering of
what will hopefully one day be much more competent backgrounds for
Final Mint created by dedicated graphic artists.
https://i.imgur.com/qomZfX2.jpeg
Mint's chief designer:
https://www.pinterest.com/ideas/peppermint-patty/897811824237/
I use Mint every day -- Mint Mobile that is.
Me too, we switched carriers to save money, my and my brother's phones
were all paid off so could be unlocked by the previous carrier.
Is
generative AI reaching its limits already?
On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 23:22:50 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:
All I've done is basically repeat to CrumpTroll that he is retarded
each time he says something retarded, like Mint punished him for using
Mint by not allowing him to use Mint.
I had more in mind your constant trolling with Mint. Joel is something
else again. When he's not sharing TMI about his sex life he can be interesting. I do agree he fucked up somehow but give it a rest.
On 12 Aug 2025 01:27:29 GMT, rbowman wrote:
Is
generative AI reaching its limits already?
I don't know the answer to that question. Let me go ask ChatGPT.
I like Tello. Been using it for several years now.
On 2025-08-12, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 06:35:17 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
I like Tello. Been using it for several years now.
I have a Tello :)
https://www.ryzerobotics.com/tello
I think it has been discontinued. It has a SDK that consists of sending
commands over UDP.
Never heard of that Tello.
For some reason owning a drone never appealed to me. I guess I'm old and boring.
On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 07:56:20 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
For some reason owning a drone never appealed to me. I guess I'm old and
boring.
The ones I have are cheap (< $100) and not too interesting. With the Tello
I was more interested in the technology. A long time ago I built a couple
of fixed wing R/C airplanes. I never got them off the ground but I enjoyed building them. I gave them to a friend and I think he got them airborne.
Ham radio was the same. I enjoy the technology but talking to some
stranger never did appeal. I did get one QSO card after a Morse contact.
The guy said my signal was drifting a little. If he saw the pile of crap I was transmitting with he would be appalled. Used twelve gauge shells make nice coil forms and if you punch out the primers you have a handy hole to screw them to the plywood. My 'breadboards' were primitive.
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