• Drag And Drop Is The Stupidest Thing

    From Lester Thorpe@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 15 08:40:02 2025
    Drag and Drop (D&D) is the stupidest thing ever. D&D is all
    over the place in Micro$hit Winblows -- and that's where it
    belongs.

    But on GNU/Linux D&D is a tool for idiots. I certainly have
    never used it and none of my GUI software supports it. D&D
    does exist, I assume, inside those ridiculous "desktop" environments.

    Do you need to copy/move files? Just open a file manager
    with a split pane that allows directory contents to be listed
    side-by-side. Then woosh! A quick keypress and it's done!

    What more could one ask for?

    Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
    the mental variety.

    Now cue some fool who will object with what he believes is
    a slick counterexample.


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  • From CtrlAltDel@21:1/5 to Lester Thorpe on Fri Aug 15 10:02:04 2025
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 08:40:02 +0000, Lester Thorpe wrote:

    Drag and Drop (D&D) is the stupidest thing ever. D&D is all over the
    place in Micro$hit Winblows -- and that's where it belongs.

    But on GNU/Linux D&D is a tool for idiots. I certainly have never used
    it and none of my GUI software supports it. D&D does exist, I assume,
    inside those ridiculous "desktop" environments.

    Why in the hell would I raise my left hand to use a keyboard command when
    I can just use the hand I'm already using the mouse with, my right hand,
    to drag and drop or copy and paste to another pane?

    That makes no sense. Why do extra work? Do you enjoy extra steps and
    making things more difficult just for the sake of it?


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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to CtrlAltDel on Fri Aug 15 11:00:24 2025
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:02:04 +0000, CtrlAltDel wrote:


    Why do extra work?


    You are an idiot, but a fortunate idiot.

    Entire commercial industries (e.g. Micro$hit, Apphole) exist to serve you.

    Entire FOSS projects (e.g. freedesktop, KDE) exist to smooch your ass.

    A dog should have it so good.


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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Lester Thorpe on Fri Aug 15 11:20:55 2025
    Lester Thorpe wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Drag and Drop (D&D) is the stupidest thing ever. D&D is all
    over the place in Micro$hit Winblows -- and that's where it
    belongs.

    But on GNU/Linux D&D is a tool for idiots. I certainly have
    never used it and none of my GUI software supports it. D&D
    does exist, I assume, inside those ridiculous "desktop" environments.

    Do you need to copy/move files? Just open a file manager
    with a split pane that allows directory contents to be listed
    side-by-side. Then woosh! A quick keypress and it's done!

    What more could one ask for?

    Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
    the mental variety.

    Now cue some fool who will object with what he believes is
    a slick counterexample.

    Usually a web site that needs you to upload a file will have a
    "Choose File" link, which opens the default file browser
    (in my case, Thunar).

    Or the web site will let you drag and drop from any open
    file browser that supports (again, here, Thunar).

    Thunar is part of Xfce, but I'm running Fluxbox.

    Now Lester, in your reply, don't bust a blood vessel :-D

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Fri Aug 15 15:43:39 2025
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 11:20:55 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:


    Usually a web site that needs you to upload a file will have a
    "Choose File" link, which opens the default file browser
    (in my case, Thunar).


    Odd. I've never seen that.

    A browswer is based on some GUI toolkit like GTK+ or Qt and
    both of these toolkits have file choosers that allow the
    user to select files:

    https://docs.gtk.org/gtk3/iface.FileChooser.html

    <https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/qfiledialog.html>

    Any program, a browser or otherwise, should employ the
    file chooser of the underlying toolkit and not invoke
    a separate program.

    But then I do not use one of those ridiculous things called
    a "desktop environment."


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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Lester Thorpe on Fri Aug 15 10:54:58 2025
    On 2025-08-15 01:40, Lester Thorpe wrote:
    Drag and Drop (D&D) is the stupidest thing ever. D&D is all
    over the place in Micro$hit Winblows -- and that's where it
    belongs.

    But on GNU/Linux D&D is a tool for idiots. I certainly have
    never used it and none of my GUI software supports it. D&D
    does exist, I assume, inside those ridiculous "desktop" environments.

    Do you need to copy/move files? Just open a file manager
    with a split pane that allows directory contents to be listed
    side-by-side. Then woosh! A quick keypress and it's done!

    What more could one ask for?

    Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
    the mental variety.

    Now cue some fool who will object with what he believes is
    a slick counterexample.
    You literally provide nothing beyond "I don't like it, waaaaah!" as a
    reason why drag and drop is "The Stupidest Thing".

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Aug 15 18:21:18 2025
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:54:58 -0700, Alan wrote:

    You literally provide nothing beyond "I don't like it, waaaaah!" as a
    reason why drag and drop is "The Stupidest Thing".


    I really don't have to provide anything "beyond."

    The lunacy of "drag and drop" should be innately obvious to any
    technically competent person.

    Just as we all don't need any corroborating evidence to tell
    us that shit stinks, we all should automatically reject D&D
    as a total absudity.

    But you must use it all the time and thus you felt strongly
    compelled to reply as a form of psychic self defense.

    No evidence needed here either.

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!


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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to CtrlAltDel on Fri Aug 15 18:54:40 2025
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:02:04 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:

    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 08:40:02 +0000, Lester Thorpe wrote:

    Drag and Drop (D&D) is the stupidest thing ever. D&D is all over the
    place in Micro$hit Winblows -- and that's where it belongs.

    But on GNU/Linux D&D is a tool for idiots. I certainly have never used
    it and none of my GUI software supports it. D&D does exist, I assume,
    inside those ridiculous "desktop" environments.

    Why in the hell would I raise my left hand to use a keyboard command
    when I can just use the hand I'm already using the mouse with, my right
    hand, to drag and drop or copy and paste to another pane?

    That makes no sense. Why do extra work? Do you enjoy extra steps and
    making things more difficult just for the sake of it?

    Another programmer implemented it but by popular demand we added D&D to
    our Motif apps. You can supply an icon that will be used during the move.
    It is, of course, a dragon.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+HtfCfh7FKYWNlayBNYXJja@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 15 20:53:57 2025
    W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
    Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
    the mental variety.

    This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like
    Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like Blender, without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and nonsense!!!

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 15 19:02:05 2025
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 20:53:57 +0200, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:



    This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like
    Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like Blender, without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and nonsense!!!


    Wrong on all counts.

    D&D is totally optional in every software package.

    If not, then it's developers need to be shot.





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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 15 19:37:24 2025
    Le 15-08-2025, Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> a écrit :
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:02:04 +0000, CtrlAltDel wrote:

    Why do extra work?

    You are an idiot,

    Yes, but obviously, you don't know why.

    but a fortunate idiot.

    Entire commercial industries (e.g. Micro$hit, Apphole) exist to serve you.

    Entire FOSS projects (e.g. freedesktop, KDE) exist to smooch your ass.

    A dog should have it so good.

    You see? You can't answer his question.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 15 19:44:31 2025
    Le 15-08-2025, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> a écrit :

    Usually a web site that needs you to upload a file will have a
    "Choose File" link,

    Yes.

    which opens the default file browser (in my case, Thunar).

    It depends on your browser.

    Or the web site will let you drag and drop from any open
    file browser that supports (again, here, Thunar).

    In my case, qutebrowser, I can chose either to use the internal browser
    or the browser of my choice. Which can be Thunar if I want, but it can be
    a browser running in a terminal like lf or ranger.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 15 20:03:24 2025
    Le 15-08-2025, Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> a écrit :
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 11:20:55 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:


    Usually a web site that needs you to upload a file will have a
    "Choose File" link, which opens the default file browser
    (in my case, Thunar).


    Odd. I've never seen that.

    There's a lot of things you have never seen.

    A browswer is based on some GUI toolkit like GTK+ or Qt and
    both of these toolkits have file choosers that allow the
    user to select files:

    No. It can be, but it can be run in a terminal if you want. And in a
    terminal, there is no GUI toolkit involved. Of course I know you don't
    want because you are a mouse addict and you are only pretending to use a terminal.

    But the best part of your answer is still to come.


    Any program, a browser or otherwise, should employ the
    file chooser of the underlying toolkit and not invoke
    a separate program.

    That's the ultimate proof you are a fraud. OK, it's only one more proof.
    You pretend to manage your computer. You pretend to follow the Unix way.
    But as always, there is a time where you prove you are a Windows
    aficionado. Or maybe an Apple aficionado, because your sentence is more
    like an Apple fanboy than a Windows fanboy.

    So, what's wrong with your sentence? First, like Apple and a little bit
    less, like Windows, with Linux one control one's own computer. And one
    do what one want with one's computer. Nobody needs Microsoft, Apple or FF/LP/NV/DG/whatever to be told how to use his computer.

    Second, the Unix way is: do one thing and do it well. You should learn
    how to use the pipe in the command line in a terminal to understand what
    that means. So, a web browser is good at browsing web. And a file
    browser is good a browsing files. Those are two different things. I
    know, your favorite tool, Internet Explorer, is designed to do
    everything and hiding the reality. It doesn't change the fact: those are
    two different things. And using two different tools to do two different
    things is the Unix way. It's not your Microsoft way. But only because
    you are not the real Linux user you pretend to be.


    But then I do not use one of those ridiculous things called
    a "desktop environment."

    Yes, you are only using what you manage to install. Your choice is a
    fall back choice. You tries things and failing, you try something else
    until it works.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+HtfCfh7FKYWNlayBNYXJja@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 15 22:20:08 2025
    W dniu 15.08.2025 o 20:53, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 pisze:
    W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
    Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
    the mental variety.

    This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like
    Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like Blender, without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and nonsense!!!

    The same is true for all Libre Office apps, especially for LO Writer
    word processor.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Farley Flud on Fri Aug 15 13:20:27 2025
    On 2025-08-15 11:21, Farley Flud wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:54:58 -0700, Alan wrote:

    You literally provide nothing beyond "I don't like it, waaaaah!" as a
    reason why drag and drop is "The Stupidest Thing".


    I really don't have to provide anything "beyond."

    The lunacy of "drag and drop" should be innately obvious to any
    technically competent person.

    And yet you cannot articulate it.

    Got it.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 15 20:15:40 2025
    Le 15-08-2025, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> a écrit :
    On 2025-08-15 01:40, Lester Thorpe wrote:
    Drag and Drop (D&D) is the stupidest thing ever. D&D is all
    over the place in Micro$hit Winblows -- and that's where it
    belongs.

    But on GNU/Linux D&D is a tool for idiots. I certainly have
    never used it and none of my GUI software supports it. D&D
    does exist, I assume, inside those ridiculous "desktop" environments.

    Do you need to copy/move files? Just open a file manager
    with a split pane that allows directory contents to be listed
    side-by-side. Then woosh! A quick keypress and it's done!

    What more could one ask for?

    Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
    the mental variety.

    Now cue some fool who will object with what he believes is
    a slick counterexample.
    You literally provide nothing beyond "I don't like it, waaaaah!" as a
    reason why drag and drop is "The Stupidest Thing".

    Two things.

    First, of course he has no technical argument. He has no skill. He must
    hide it behind insults. Well, it's not exactly true. He has one skill:
    it's to be able to break the strongest parts of Linux.

    Second, it's not "waaaaaah!", it's "HAAAAAAA HAA HAAA". If you have ever
    seen any of his videos, he's laughing like a maniac. If you have never
    seen any of his videos, you've lost nothing. He's only laughing in front
    of a black screen pretending he's mastering Linux. And he can do it for
    half an hour (I've never seen completely his videos, so maybe I lost
    something bu I doubt it). But the fact is: his laugh can't be mistaken.

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 15 20:32:43 2025
    On 15 Aug 2025 20:03:24 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    So, a web browser is good at browsing web. And a file
    browser is good a browsing files. Those are two different things.


    Shut up you ignoramus freak.

    You are NOT a programmer.

    You are NOT a programmer.

    You are NOT a programmer.

    A GUI program, like a web browser, can only use the GUI API
    via the file chooser to allow the user to select a file.
    There is no other fucking way.

    If the browser calls the "default" (and how is supposed to
    know what is "default?") file manager to select a file then
    how is the identity of the selected file supposed to be
    communicated back to browser? Huh? How?

    There is no fucking way that this is possible.

    A browser therefore MUST use the GUI provided file choose
    API.

    But you are NOT a programmer and you don't know this.

    So shut the fuck up.





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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 15 20:24:19 2025
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 11:20:55 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote in <107nj8o$16gls$1@dont-email.me>:

    Lester Thorpe wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Drag and Drop (D&D) is the stupidest thing ever. D&D is all over the
    place in Micro$hit Winblows -- and that's where it belongs.

    But on GNU/Linux D&D is a tool for idiots. I certainly have never used
    it and none of my GUI software supports it. D&D does exist, I assume,
    inside those ridiculous "desktop" environments.

    Do you need to copy/move files? Just open a file manager with a split
    pane that allows directory contents to be listed side-by-side. Then
    woosh! A quick keypress and it's done!

    What more could one ask for?

    Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of the mental
    variety.

    Now cue some fool who will object with what he believes is a slick
    counterexample.

    Usually a web site that needs you to upload a file will have a "Choose
    File" link, which opens the default file browser (in my case, Thunar).

    Or the web site will let you drag and drop from any open file browser
    that supports (again, here, Thunar).

    Thunar is part of Xfce, but I'm running Fluxbox.

    Now Lester, in your reply, don't bust a blood vessel :-D

    Sometimes I need to add a screenshot to a conversation in [insert
    instant message app of your choice here], and I'm staring right at
    it in my file manager. Drag, drop, done.

    Lester is from bizarro world. I guess he has plenty of time to play
    Boy Fangio with his file dialogues.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Farley Flud on Fri Aug 15 13:50:45 2025
    On 2025-08-15 13:32, Farley Flud wrote:
    On 15 Aug 2025 20:03:24 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    So, a web browser is good at browsing web. And a file
    browser is good a browsing files. Those are two different things.


    Shut up you ignoramus freak.

    You are NOT a programmer.

    You are NOT a programmer.

    You are NOT a programmer.

    A GUI program, like a web browser, can only use the GUI API
    via the file chooser to allow the user to select a file.
    There is no other fucking way.

    If the browser calls the "default" (and how is supposed to
    know what is "default?") file manager to select a file then
    how is the identity of the selected file supposed to be
    communicated back to browser? Huh? How?

    Are you a programmer?

    And you don't understand that there can be mechanism for applications to
    know what the default program is for various functions on the machine?

    When you click a "Contact" link on your machine, does it open the email
    program you prefer?

    It certainly does on mine.

    :-)

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 15 20:19:55 2025
    Le 15-08-2025, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> a écrit :
    W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
    Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
    the mental variety.

    This sentence is stupid as hell!!!

    You don't know the moron? You look surprised.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 15 22:10:40 2025
    Le 15-08-2025, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> a écrit :
    On 2025-08-15 13:32, Farley Flud wrote:
    On 15 Aug 2025 20:03:24 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    So, a web browser is good at browsing web. And a file
    browser is good a browsing files. Those are two different things.

    Shut up you ignoramus freak.

    You tried it already but never managed to. I do what I want and you can
    do nothing about it.

    You are NOT a programmer.

    No, I always acknowledged it. It's not the discovery of the century. And neither are you, so we are on the same ground here.

    But here we don't speak about programming, we speak about Linux. Which I
    know well more than you.

    A GUI program, like a web browser, can only use the GUI API
    via the file chooser to allow the user to select a file.
    There is no other fucking way.

    Your lack of knowledge doesn't make it right. A web browser can launch a terminal which can launch a TUI. Your inability to understand that
    doesn't prove you're right. It only proves you are limited.

    The easiest way to check it would be to install qutebrowser and check it
    by yourself. I gave you every needed information about that. But
    anything not done by default on your computer is a challenge to you.

    If the browser calls the "default" (and how is supposed to
    know what is "default?")

    It knows because of an option in its configuration. Nothing weird about
    that. Even you should be able to understand that. Of course, with your
    Internet Explorer web browser you have no idea you can control it.

    file manager to select a file then
    how is the identity of the selected file supposed to be
    communicated back to browser? Huh? How?

    Because a program returns a message, which, by the way, isn't limited to
    OK or error number. So providing the right options to the right browser
    works. That's the Linux way: learn how to use pipes and you'll get a
    better understanding of Linux.

    Are you a programmer?

    Of course he's not. He pretends to, but he's only able to copy paste
    what he finds on Internet without understanding it. I don't see any
    message of DFS since a long time, but he used to have some programming challenges and it was obvious.

    And you don't understand that there can be mechanism for applications to
    know what the default program is for various functions on the machine?

    He knows only about what he can use: which is very limited.

    When you click a "Contact" link on your machine, does it open the email program you prefer?

    It should be that way, but it's more the only email program he manages
    to install successfully.

    It certainly does on mine.

    Of couse you can. Anyone but he can. It's impressive how he manages to
    make simple tasks sounds complicated.

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  • From CtrlAltDel@21:1/5 to Farley Flud on Fri Aug 15 23:25:28 2025
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 11:00:24 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

    You are an idiot, but a fortunate idiot.

    Entire commercial industries (e.g. Micro$hit, Apphole) exist to serve
    you.

    Entire FOSS projects (e.g. freedesktop, KDE) exist to smooch your ass.

    A dog should have it so good.

    Mint kisses my ass too. What kind of backward retard taps on an
    antiquated keyboard all day when a mouse is so much easier, smoother,
    error free, and simple to use.

    I'm going to stop what I'm doing with my mouse and reposition my hands and
    type in some fuckstick command instead of just staying with the mouse I
    was already using.

    You are a relic of the inadequate past. Stay with Gintoo; it suits you
    well.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+HtfCfh7FKYWNlayBNYXJja@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 16 01:57:16 2025
    W dniu 15.08.2025 o 22:20, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 pisze:
    W dniu 15.08.2025 o 20:53, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 pisze:
    W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
    Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
    the mental variety.

    This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like
    Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like
    Blender, without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and
    nonsense!!!

    The same is true for all Libre Office apps, especially for LO Writer
    word processor.

    The same is true for all non-linear audio and video editors, like for
    e.g. Audacity and Kdenlive.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOlivei@21:1/5 to CtrlAltDel on Sat Aug 16 02:25:55 2025
    XPost: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy

    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 23:25:28 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:

    I'm going to stop what I'm doing with my mouse and reposition my hands
    and type in some fuckstick command instead of just staying with the
    mouse I was already using.

    You are a relic of the inadequate past. Stay with G[e]ntoo; it suits
    you well.

    There we go again, the hidebound Dimdows user cannot help but assume that
    Linux is just like all those proprietary systems in that the GUI is
    somehow inextricably tied into the OS or distro, rather than being a
    separately configurable/replaceable layer.

    And Gentoo is among the top of the league of Linux distros in terms of configurability, too.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From CtrlAltDel@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 16 04:14:36 2025
    XPost: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 02:25:55 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    There we go again, the hidebound Dimdows user cannot help but assume
    that Linux is just like all those proprietary systems in that the GUI is somehow inextricably tied into the OS or distro, rather than being a separately configurable/replaceable layer.

    And Gentoo is among the top of the league of Linux distros in terms of configurability, too.

    You have received a Usenet demerit for maliciously and deviously
    attempting to change the subject of the discussion from "keyboard vs.
    mouse" to Gintwo is a grate distro.

    Two more demerits and you will be banned from Usenet for 90 days. Be
    careful.



    --
    All of Usenet is in a psychological, emotional, and antisocial free fall
    into an abyss and fully immersed in a drowning pool of mental illness.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOlivei@21:1/5 to CtrlAltDel on Sat Aug 16 05:40:24 2025
    XPost: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 04:14:36 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 02:25:55 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    There we go again, the hidebound Dimdows user cannot help but assume
    that Linux is just like all those proprietary systems in that the GUI
    is somehow inextricably tied into the OS or distro, rather than being a
    separately configurable/replaceable layer.

    And Gentoo is among the top of the league of Linux distros in terms of
    configurability, too.

    [Ad-hominem smokescreen]

    Pro Internet tip: trying to distract from my point with irrelevancies is a tacit way of admitting I’m right.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 16 08:01:38 2025
    Le 15-08-2025, CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> a écrit :
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 11:00:24 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

    You are an idiot, but a fortunate idiot.

    Entire commercial industries (e.g. Micro$hit, Apphole) exist to serve
    you.

    Entire FOSS projects (e.g. freedesktop, KDE) exist to smooch your ass.

    A dog should have it so good.

    Mint kisses my ass too. What kind of backward retard taps on an
    antiquated keyboard all day when a mouse is so much easier, smoother,
    error free, and simple to use.

    I'm going to stop what I'm doing with my mouse and reposition my hands and type in some fuckstick command instead of just staying with the mouse I
    was already using.

    You are a relic of the inadequate past. Stay with Gintoo; it suits you
    well.

    You mean you are using your mouse to write this message instead of a
    keyboard?

    --
    Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
    https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From CtrlAltDel@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 16 08:28:36 2025
    On 16 Aug 2025 08:01:38 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

    Le 15-08-2025, CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> a écrit :
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 11:00:24 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

    You are an idiot, but a fortunate idiot.

    Entire commercial industries (e.g. Micro$hit, Apphole) exist to serve
    you.

    Entire FOSS projects (e.g. freedesktop, KDE) exist to smooch your ass.

    A dog should have it so good.

    Mint kisses my ass too. What kind of backward retard taps on an
    antiquated keyboard all day when a mouse is so much easier, smoother,
    error free, and simple to use.

    I'm going to stop what I'm doing with my mouse and reposition my hands
    and type in some fuckstick command instead of just staying with the
    mouse I was already using.

    You are a relic of the inadequate past. Stay with Gintoo; it suits you
    well.

    You mean you are using your mouse to write this message instead of a keyboard?

    Is typing a command?

    --
    All of Usenet is in a psychological, emotional, and antisocial free fall
    into an abyss and fully immersed in a drowning pool of mental illness.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From CtrlAltDel@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 16 08:32:16 2025
    XPost: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 05:40:24 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 04:14:36 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 02:25:55 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    There we go again, the hidebound Dimdows user cannot help but assume
    that Linux is just like all those proprietary systems in that the GUI
    is somehow inextricably tied into the OS or distro, rather than being
    a separately configurable/replaceable layer.

    And Gentoo is among the top of the league of Linux distros in terms of
    configurability, too.

    [Ad-hominem smokescreen]

    Pro Internet tip: trying to distract from my point with irrelevancies is
    a tacit way of admitting I’m right.

    This is not the Internet, sir; it's called Usenet. Please cease and desist
    and stop trying to change the topic from keyboard vs. mouse to GinTwo and GUI's.

    This is now your second demerit. Care to try for a third?

    --
    All of Usenet is in a psychological, emotional, and antisocial free fall
    into an abyss and fully immersed in a drowning pool of mental illness.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to CtrlAltDel on Sat Aug 16 09:02:19 2025
    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:28:36 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:

    On 16 Aug 2025 08:01:38 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    You mean you are using your mouse to write this message instead of a
    keyboard?

    Is typing a command?


    What the stupid-fuck does is the following:

    1) He clicks on some icon to open a virtual keyboard on his monitor.

    2) Then he selects each key he wants to enter, one by one, by moving
    the mouse pointer over it and clicking.

    That is how a "modern" user does it. There's none of that backward,
    primitive entering-keys-by-using-the-fingers stuff.



    --
    Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From CtrlAltDel@21:1/5 to Farley Flud on Sat Aug 16 09:27:50 2025
    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 09:02:19 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:28:36 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:

    On 16 Aug 2025 08:01:38 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    You mean you are using your mouse to write this message instead of a
    keyboard?

    Is typing a command?


    What the stupid-fuck does is the following:

    1) He clicks on some icon to open a virtual keyboard on his monitor.

    2) Then he selects each key he wants to enter, one by one, by moving the mouse pointer over it and clicking.

    That is how a "modern" user does it. There's none of that backward, primitive entering-keys-by-using-the-fingers stuff.

    Silly Farley. I maintain that it is idiotic to use the keyboard to enter
    in a bunch of ridiculous keyboard commands when the mouse is much easier
    and more comfortable and takes much less effort.

    Seriously, what type of a neanderthal uses the keyboard for a task as
    simple as dragging and dropping a few files from one folder to another
    other than a Farley? It would take a verified idiot to go to all that
    trouble.

    --
    All of Usenet is in a psychological, emotional, and antisocial free fall
    into an abyss and fully immersed in a drowning pool of mental illness.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 16 09:38:02 2025
    On 15 Aug 2025 22:10:40 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    file manager to select a file then
    how is the identity of the selected file supposed to be
    communicated back to browser? Huh? How?

    Because a program returns a message, which, by the way, isn't limited to
    OK or error number. So providing the right options to the right browser works. That's the Linux way: learn how to use pipes and you'll get a
    better understanding of Linux.


    Within a desktop environment (DE) that may be possible, but I don't
    know because I don't use and I don't give a fuck about DEs.

    The other poster mentioned Thunar as the file manager (FM). Thunar
    is part of a DE and it employs APIs to allow interfacing with
    other DE programs. A general FM, however, does not interface to
    other programs. A general FM just manages files and nothing else
    and thus could not be used as a "file chooser" by other programs.

    D&D is not possible on my systems because I do not allow it.
    D&D requires Inter Process Communication (IPC) within a DE and that
    means that "dbus" must be running. On my systems dbus is forbidden
    and always will be.

    There are some exceptions, however. I like to use Geany as one of my
    text editors and Geany, unfortunately, requires dbus for certain
    operations. Specifically, it used gconfig access its configuration
    and gconfig uses dbus.

    But I wrote my own very effective start-up script that allows
    Geany to use dbus while shutting it off otherwise:

    #! /bin/bash

    TMPF=$(mktemp -u -q 'gn-using.XXXX')

    if [ -z "$(ls -A /var/lock/dbus-state)" ]; then
    touch /var/lock/dbus-state/$TMPF
    mv /usr/bin/dbus-launch /usr/bin/dbus-launch~~
    mv /usr/bin/dbus-launch~ /usr/bin/dbus-launch
    else
    touch /var/lock/dbus-state/$TMPF
    fi

    geany "$@"

    rm /var/lock/dbus-state/$TMPF

    if [ -z "$(ls -A /var/lock/dbus-state)" ]; then
    killall at-spi2-registryd dbus-daemon dbus-launch
    mv /usr/bin/dbus-launch /usr/bin/dbus-launch~
    mv /usr/bin/dbus-launch~~ /usr/bin/dbus-launch
    fi


    With GNU/Linux anything is possible.





    --
    Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to I'm asking you if you are using you on Sat Aug 16 10:36:07 2025
    Le 16-08-2025, CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> a écrit :
    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 09:02:19 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:28:36 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:

    On 16 Aug 2025 08:01:38 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    You mean you are using your mouse to write this message instead of a
    keyboard?

    Is typing a command?

    For me, typing is using my keyboard instead of my mouse. For you, it's a
    stupid effort. So, I'm asking you if you are using your mouse to write
    messages on usenet.

    What the stupid-fuck does is the following:

    1) He clicks on some icon to open a virtual keyboard on his monitor.

    2) Then he selects each key he wants to enter, one by one, by moving the
    mouse pointer over it and clicking.

    That is how a "modern" user does it. There's none of that backward,
    primitive entering-keys-by-using-the-fingers stuff.

    That's the question I was asking: does it write like that?

    Silly Farley. I maintain that it is idiotic to use the keyboard to enter
    in a bunch of ridiculous keyboard commands when the mouse is much easier
    and more comfortable and takes much less effort.

    Yes, and you maintain that a Fedora iso need ext4 to be installed when a
    Mint iso doesn't. Your lack of knowledge makes you claim stupid things.
    That's obvious.

    Seriously, what type of a neanderthal uses the keyboard for a task as
    simple as dragging and dropping a few files from one folder to another
    other than a Farley? It would take a verified idiot to go to all that trouble.

    Once again, you are insulting all the guys who provide you your beloved
    Mint. It's not a good way to thank them.

    Unlike you, they know how to use a terminal, how to use a keyboard, how
    to type commands effortlessly and how to avoid writing twice the same
    command. Well, they know how to write commands effortlessly.

    A lot of efforts have been make in terminals, shells and commands to
    help people use more efficiently the keyboard. Of course you can't
    understand that. You can only believe your limited knowledge of Linux is
    all that matter.

    --
    Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
    https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+HtfCfh7FKYWNlayBNYXJja@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 16 13:12:00 2025
    W dniu 16.08.2025 o 09:43, RonB pisze:
    On 2025-08-15, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> wrote:
    W dniu 15.08.2025 o 20:53, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 pisze:
    W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
    Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
    the mental variety.

    This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like
    Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like Blender, >>> without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and nonsense!!!

    The same is true for all Libre Office apps, especially for LO Writer
    word processor.

    Have you tried dragging and dropping into LibreOffice Writer? It works for me. Not that I like drag and drop for documents.

    It seems that you really need detail explanation (this is opposite
    polish proverb "Wise head know/understand in two words"): Drag and drop
    feature is not limited to inter process communication. D&D is
    intensively used inside applications. In LO Writer I intense use D&D
    when I embed images in my docs in order to visually correct they position.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+HtfCfh7FKYWNlayBNYXJja@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 16 13:14:59 2025
    W dniu 16.08.2025 o 09:39, RonB pisze:
    On 2025-08-15, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> wrote:
    W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
    Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
    the mental variety.

    This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like
    Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like Blender,
    without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and nonsense!!!

    Of course it's stupid. Consider the source. The killfile is your friend.

    Killfile is against freedom of speech. I swear I will never use killfile!!!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 16 10:40:45 2025
    On 2025-08-16 7:14 a.m., 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
    W dniu 16.08.2025 o 09:39, RonB pisze:
    On 2025-08-15, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> wrote:
    W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
    Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
    the mental variety.

    This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like
    Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like Blender, >>> without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and nonsense!!!

    Of course it's stupid. Consider the source. The killfile is your friend.

    Killfile is against freedom of speech. I swear I will never use killfile!!!

    I mostly agree with you, but Larry "Farley Flud/Diego Garcia/Lester
    Thorpe" Pietraskiewicz is such an unforgivable cretin that the only
    place for him is inside a killfile.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    Islam is the enemy
    John 14:6

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 16 15:10:48 2025
    On 2025-08-16 7:14 a.m., 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote: Killfile is against freedom of speech.

    No. Killfile don't stop people to speak. It stops you to read what they
    say. There's a huge difference. You can't read every newspaper published
    in the world: you have to chose which one you read and which one you
    don't. Refusing to read some newspaper isn't against freedom of speech
    because you still let them express themselves. The killfile is the same:
    you don't stop others to express themselves, you stop you to take care
    of it.

    Sometimes people ask others to stop answering people who are in their
    killfile. And that is against freedom of speech. But in modern time, you
    have to choose what you read and what you don't because you just don't
    have time to read everything. So the killfile is just a way to select
    what you read. It's not against freedom of speech.

    I've another way to diminish the number of messages I read is my ISP.
    It's broken and doesn't transfer everything. As I can't read everything,
    you could say it's a kind of fighting freedom of speech. But I choose to
    stay with it because it helps me to take less time on Usenet.

    I swear I will never use killfile!!!

    You do what you want. But for my information, do you read all the
    messages of all the groups? Because if you select only some groups it
    looks like a sort of killfile.

    --
    Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
    https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tyrone@21:1/5 to jaworski1978@adres.pl on Sat Aug 16 15:48:25 2025
    On Aug 16, 2025 at 7:14:59 AM EDT, "🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱" <jaworski1978@adres.pl> wrote:

    W dniu 16.08.2025 o 09:39, RonB pisze:
    On 2025-08-15, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> wrote:
    W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
    Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
    the mental variety.

    This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like
    Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like Blender, >>> without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and nonsense!!!

    Of course it's stupid. Consider the source. The killfile is your friend.

    Killfile is against freedom of speech. I swear I will never use killfile!!!

    I really hope you are joking here. Or are you yet another person who has no idea what "freedom of speech" means?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 16 23:16:08 2025
    On 16 Aug 2025 08:01:38 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

    Le 15-08-2025, CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> a écrit :
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 11:00:24 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

    You are an idiot, but a fortunate idiot.

    Entire commercial industries (e.g. Micro$hit, Apphole) exist to serve
    you.

    Entire FOSS projects (e.g. freedesktop, KDE) exist to smooch your ass.

    A dog should have it so good.

    Mint kisses my ass too. What kind of backward retard taps on an
    antiquated keyboard all day when a mouse is so much easier, smoother,
    error free, and simple to use.

    I'm going to stop what I'm doing with my mouse and reposition my hands
    and type in some fuckstick command instead of just staying with the
    mouse I was already using.

    You are a relic of the inadequate past. Stay with Gintoo; it suits you
    well.

    You mean you are using your mouse to write this message instead of a keyboard?


    Virtual keyboard! You can turn one on in GNOME if you're weird enough. I
    think in KDE it has to detect a touchscreen.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 16 23:21:00 2025
    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 13:14:59 +0200, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:

    W dniu 16.08.2025 o 09:39, RonB pisze:
    On 2025-08-15, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> wrote:
    W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
    Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of the
    mental variety.

    This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like
    Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like
    Blender,
    without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and nonsense!!!

    Of course it's stupid. Consider the source. The killfile is your
    friend.

    Killfile is against freedom of speech. I swear I will never use
    killfile!!!

    Paul might have said "For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye yourselves are wise." but I'm not a good Christian.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From CtrlAltDel@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 16 23:46:58 2025
    On 16 Aug 2025 10:36:07 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

    Le 16-08-2025, CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> a écrit :
    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 09:02:19 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:28:36 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:

    On 16 Aug 2025 08:01:38 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    You mean you are using your mouse to write this message instead of a >>>>> keyboard?

    Is typing a command?

    For me, typing is using my keyboard instead of my mouse. For you, it's a stupid effort. So, I'm asking you if you are using your mouse to write messages on usenet.

    The original topic of this thread was a questionnaire about who would dare
    to breach nerd boy etiquette and drag and drop a file in a file manager
    instead of just keyboard commanding it.

    Unlike you, due to a hazy outlook and erratic reasoning, seem to be unable
    to stay on topic.

    I will persist in corralling you back onto topic as we proceed, as you
    don't have that basic ability.

    Typing a message on Usenet, is not in the same category as using keyboard commands to execute tasks within Linux. Can you understand this before we proceed with the discussion?


    What the stupid-fuck does is the following:

    1) He clicks on some icon to open a virtual keyboard on his monitor.

    2) Then he selects each key he wants to enter, one by one, by moving
    the mouse pointer over it and clicking.

    That is how a "modern" user does it. There's none of that backward,
    primitive entering-keys-by-using-the-fingers stuff.

    That's the question I was asking: does it write like that?

    You should just reply to me from this point on, don't glom off of a
    verified kook's straggling sky screams to attempt to make a nonexistent
    point.


    Silly Farley. I maintain that it is idiotic to use the keyboard to
    enter in a bunch of ridiculous keyboard commands when the mouse is much
    easier and more comfortable and takes much less effort.

    Yes, and you maintain that a Fedora iso need ext4 to be installed when a
    Mint iso doesn't. Your lack of knowledge makes you claim stupid things. That's obvious.

    Yet, a Fedora Cinnamon spun .iso, in fact, can not be written to a FAT32
    drive and boot properly.

    The proof in this is easily verifiable by anyone that cares enough,
    probably no one here, to try this scenario and try to boot. It will not
    work.

    So, congrats on being immeasurably ignorant and continuing with a zilch
    point that impresses no one.


    Seriously, what type of a neanderthal uses the keyboard for a task as
    simple as dragging and dropping a few files from one folder to another
    other than a Farley? It would take a verified idiot to go to all that
    trouble.

    Once again, you are insulting all the guys who provide you your beloved
    Mint. It's not a good way to thank them.

    Unlike you, they know how to use a terminal, how to use a keyboard, how
    to type commands effortlessly and how to avoid writing twice the same command. Well, they know how to write commands effortlessly.

    A lot of efforts have been make in terminals, shells and commands to
    help people use more efficiently the keyboard. Of course you can't
    understand that. You can only believe your limited knowledge of Linux is
    all that matter.

    I'm an end-user who chooses, the lifeblood of Linux is choice, to not
    regress to the 1980's to achieve an award of no value to anyone,
    anywhere. I don't compile the Linux kernel, my job isn't to provide
    distros for anyone, I simply use Linux.

    When some outrageous moron tries to insult people who don't use the
    keyboard to copy files from one folder to another, or some other trivial
    shit that means nothing expect to virginal outcasts of the human race, it
    is hilarious.

    Then comes a dumb-dumb like you flocking to the thread and screeching that
    Mint developers are highly insulted, as if a grave affront that can never
    be remedied has occurred, if someone chooses to copy files from one folder
    to another using a drag and drop technique.

    Have you always been insufferable or is it a new personality you are
    trying out?



    --
    All of Usenet is in a psychological, emotional, and antisocial free fall
    into an abyss and fully immersed in a drowning pool of mental illness.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From CtrlAltDel@21:1/5 to rbowman on Sun Aug 17 00:03:57 2025
    On 16 Aug 2025 23:21:00 GMT, rbowman wrote:

    Paul might have said "For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye yourselves
    are wise." but I'm not a good Christian.

    You aren't one those pitiful souls who cackle to the world that they have
    just kill-filed someone, as if it someone makes their teeny-tiny penis
    larger by having done so, are you?

    If you want to kill-file someone, just do it and go about your business.
    There is no need to prance and strut, seeing how much attention you can
    suck up, in front of the board participants while announcing an imminent kill-file inclusion, as if anyone really gives two shits one way or
    another.

    Self-importance is one of the ugliest and most pathetic of human traits.



    --
    All of Usenet is in a psychological, emotional, and antisocial free fall
    into an abyss and fully immersed in a drowning pool of mental illness.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From CtrlAltDel@21:1/5 to CtrlAltDel on Sun Aug 17 00:05:13 2025
    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 00:03:57 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:

    as if it someone makes their teeny-tiny penis larger by having done so,
    are you?

    as if it *somehow* makes their teeny-tiny penis
    larger by having done so, are you?

    --
    All of Usenet is in a psychological, emotional, and antisocial free fall
    into an abyss and fully immersed in a drowning pool of mental illness.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From CtrlAltDel@21:1/5 to rbowman on Sat Aug 16 23:57:26 2025
    On 16 Aug 2025 23:16:08 GMT, rbowman wrote:

    On 16 Aug 2025 08:01:38 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

    Le 15-08-2025, CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> a écrit :
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 11:00:24 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

    You are an idiot, but a fortunate idiot.

    Entire commercial industries (e.g. Micro$hit, Apphole) exist to serve
    you.

    Entire FOSS projects (e.g. freedesktop, KDE) exist to smooch your
    ass.

    A dog should have it so good.

    Mint kisses my ass too. What kind of backward retard taps on an
    antiquated keyboard all day when a mouse is so much easier, smoother,
    error free, and simple to use.

    I'm going to stop what I'm doing with my mouse and reposition my hands
    and type in some fuckstick command instead of just staying with the
    mouse I was already using.

    You are a relic of the inadequate past. Stay with Gintoo; it suits
    you well.

    You mean you are using your mouse to write this message instead of a
    keyboard?


    Virtual keyboard! You can turn one on in GNOME if you're weird enough.
    I think in KDE it has to detect a touchscreen.

    Several people here, it would seem, actually can't discern the difference between typing words out in a letter format and using keyboard commands to achieve a task on a computer.

    All one has to do is reread the original post in this thread to try figure
    out what the topic of the thread is.

    I state that I don't prefer to use keyboard commands to move files in a
    file manager, and people outlandishly suggest I am being hypocritical by
    typing out messages on Usenet.

    I am almost at a loss at how to communicate with people that are seemingly
    so dense.

    --
    All of Usenet is in a psychological, emotional, and antisocial free fall
    into an abyss and fully immersed in a drowning pool of mental illness.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOlivei@21:1/5 to CtrlAltDel on Sun Aug 17 00:31:45 2025
    XPost: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:32:16 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 05:40:24 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 04:14:36 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 02:25:55 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    There we go again, the hidebound Dimdows user cannot help but assume
    that Linux is just like all those proprietary systems in that the GUI
    is somehow inextricably tied into the OS or distro, rather than being
    a separately configurable/replaceable layer.

    And Gentoo is among the top of the league of Linux distros in terms
    of configurability, too.

    [Ad-hominem smokescreen]

    Pro Internet tip: trying to distract from my point with irrelevancies
    is a tacit way of admitting I’m right.

    This is not the Internet, sir; it's called Usenet.

    Unless you are still accessing it via UUCP over dialup lines, you don’t
    have a point.

    Trying to distract from my point with irrelevancies, strike two.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From CtrlAltDel@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 17 00:43:57 2025
    XPost: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 00:31:45 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:32:16 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 05:40:24 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 04:14:36 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 02:25:55 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>>>
    There we go again, the hidebound Dimdows user cannot help but assume >>>>> that Linux is just like all those proprietary systems in that the
    GUI is somehow inextricably tied into the OS or distro, rather than
    being a separately configurable/replaceable layer.

    And Gentoo is among the top of the league of Linux distros in terms
    of configurability, too.

    [Ad-hominem smokescreen]

    Pro Internet tip: trying to distract from my point with irrelevancies
    is a tacit way of admitting I’m right.

    This is not the Internet, sir; it's called Usenet.

    Unless you are still accessing it via UUCP over dialup lines, you don’t have a point.

    Trying to distract from my point with irrelevancies, strike two.

    Sir Lawrence, you are going to be hard-pressed to convince any but the
    most wide-eyed and gullible that Usenet is, in fact, the Internet.

    Try another angle; start over and forget about this tangent.

    --
    All of Usenet is in a psychological, emotional, and antisocial free fall
    into an abyss and fully immersed in a drowning pool of mental illness.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Not Necessary@21:1/5 to Lester Thorpe on Sun Aug 17 05:08:56 2025
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 08:40:02 +0000, Lester Thorpe wrote:

    Drag and Drop (D&D) is the stupidest thing ever. D&D is all over the
    place in Micro$hit Winblows -- and that's where it belongs.

    But on GNU/Linux D&D is a tool for idiots. I certainly have never used
    it and none of my GUI software supports it. D&D does exist, I assume,
    inside those ridiculous "desktop" environments.

    Do you need to copy/move files? Just open a file manager with a split
    pane that allows directory contents to be listed side-by-side. Then
    woosh! A quick keypress and it's done!

    What more could one ask for?

    Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of the mental variety.

    Now cue some fool who will object with what he believes is a slick counterexample.

    Edgelord dumbfuck!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOlivei@21:1/5 to Tyrone on Sun Aug 17 05:12:11 2025
    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 00:16:22 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

    Says the dumbass who thinks that using Linux somehow lowers the cost of bread.

    Competition does lower prices. Think Microsoft could charge as much for
    Windows and Office if there weren’t cheaper alternatives?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 17 09:03:53 2025
    Le 17-08-2025, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> a écrit :
    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 00:16:22 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

    Says the dumbass who thinks that using Linux somehow lowers the cost of
    bread.

    Competition does lower prices. Think Microsoft could charge as much for Windows and Office if there weren’t cheaper alternatives?

    Now, they advertisement in Windows to level up their revenues.

    --
    Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
    https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From vallor@21:1/5 to sc@fiat-linux.fr on Sun Aug 17 09:42:07 2025
    On 16 Aug 2025 15:10:48 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote
    in <68a09f78$0$423$426a34cc@news.free.fr>:

    I've another way to diminish the number of messages I read is my ISP.
    It's broken and doesn't transfer everything. As I can't read everything,
    you could say it's a kind of fighting freedom of speech. But I choose to
    stay with it because it helps me to take less time on Usenet.

    Well that sucks.

    Have you considered an account at eternal-september.org or
    individual.net? The former is gratis, and the latter is 10 euros/yr.
    Text only.

    --
    -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090Ti 24G
    OS: Linux 6.16.1 D: Mint 22.1 DE: Xfce 4.18
    NVIDIA: 580.76.05 Mem: 258G
    "Of course I know what I'm doing! Now gimme that degausser."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From vallor@21:1/5 to rbowman on Sun Aug 17 10:05:00 2025
    On 16 Aug 2025 23:21:00 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in <mgci2sFitriU9@mid.individual.net>:

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 13:14:59 +0200, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:

    W dniu 16.08.2025 o 09:39, RonB pisze:
    On 2025-08-15, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl>
    wrote:
    W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
    Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of the
    mental variety.

    This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like
    Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like
    Blender,
    without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and nonsense!!!

    Of course it's stupid. Consider the source. The killfile is your
    friend.

    Killfile is against freedom of speech. I swear I will never use
    killfile!!!

    Paul might have said "For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye yourselves
    are wise." but I'm not a good Christian.

    I don't believe that man has ever been to Corinth.[1]

    But a well-played quote. I'm not sure Jacek understands that
    he has the perfect right to ignore anybody he wants to.

    --
    -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090Ti 24G
    OS: Linux 6.16.1 D: Mint 22.1 DE: Xfce 4.18
    NVIDIA: 580.76.05 Mem: 258G
    [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFB_vaq9bXs

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From vallor@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 17 10:12:08 2025
    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 00:03:57 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com>
    wrote in <107r69d$1vt2b$4@dont-email.me>:

    On 16 Aug 2025 23:21:00 GMT, rbowman wrote:

    Paul might have said "For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye yourselves
    are wise." but I'm not a good Christian.

    You aren't one those pitiful souls who cackle to the world that they
    have just kill-filed someone, as if it someone makes their teeny-tiny
    penis larger by having done so, are you?

    If you want to kill-file someone, just do it and go about your business. There is no need to prance and strut, seeing how much attention you can
    suck up, in front of the board participants while announcing an imminent kill-file inclusion, as if anyone really gives two shits one way or
    another.

    Self-importance is one of the ugliest and most pathetic of human traits.

    The quote he used is from Paul commenting on the Corinthians'
    treatment of some "self-important" dweebs.

    Don't get me wrong, I think Paul was flawed; but
    that was a good letter he wrote (wherein he admits
    to being flawed, among other things).

    ObLinux: I'm running compiz, but with my xfce4 panels
    and Cairo dock intact. Already showed it to Mrs. vallor,
    who oo'ed and wow'ed over it. I might have to set up
    her Linux workstation similarly...

    --
    -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090Ti 24G
    OS: Linux 6.16.1 D: Mint 22.1 DE: Xfce 4.18
    NVIDIA: 580.76.05 Mem: 258G
    "Sometimes the best defense is a skillful surrender."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Ref@21:1/5 to CtrlAltDel on Sun Aug 17 10:24:09 2025
    XPost: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 00:43:57 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 00:31:45 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:32:16 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 05:40:24 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 04:14:36 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 02:25:55 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>>>>
    There we go again, the hidebound Dimdows user cannot help but
    assume that Linux is just like all those proprietary systems in
    that the GUI is somehow inextricably tied into the OS or distro,
    rather than being a separately configurable/replaceable layer.

    And Gentoo is among the top of the league of Linux distros in terms >>>>>> of configurability, too.

    [Ad-hominem smokescreen]

    Pro Internet tip: trying to distract from my point with irrelevancies
    is a tacit way of admitting I’m right.

    This is not the Internet, sir; it's called Usenet.

    Unless you are still accessing it via UUCP over dialup lines, you don’t
    have a point.

    Trying to distract from my point with irrelevancies, strike two.

    Sir Lawrence, you are going to be hard-pressed to convince any but the
    most wide-eyed and gullible that Usenet is, in fact, the Internet.

    Try another angle; start over and forget about this tangent.

    Alright, alright -- I want a good clean fight.

    https://infidels.org/library/modern/constructing-a-logical-argument/#herring

    Red herring
    This fallacy is committed when someone introduces irrelevant
    material to the issue being discussed, so that everyone’s
    attention is diverted away from the points made, towards a
    different conclusion.
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    Combined with the previous ad hominem argument, that's two
    fallacies against Alty -- one more and I'll have to dig out
    a yellow card.

    --
    I am not a lawyer; I am The Ref.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From CtrlAltDel@21:1/5 to vallor on Sun Aug 17 10:16:58 2025
    On 17 Aug 2025 10:12:08 GMT, vallor wrote:

    Already showed it to Mrs. vallor,

    Got a picture?

    --
    All of Usenet is in a psychological, emotional, and antisocial free fall
    into an abyss and fully immersed in a drowning pool of mental illness.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to CtrlAltDel on Sun Aug 17 11:17:11 2025
    XPost: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 00:43:57 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:


    Sir Lawrence, you are going to be hard-pressed to convince any but the
    most wide-eyed and gullible that Usenet is, in fact, the Internet.


    Hmm. Let's see. I can access Usenet via the NNTP protocol on
    TCP port 119. That sure sounds like "Internet" to me.

    In fact, Usenet, just like ftp, used to accessible within browsers.

    I suspect that this ignoramus buffoon actually meant to claim that
    Usenet is not the "World Wide Web."





    --
    Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Farley Flud on Sun Aug 17 11:26:12 2025
    XPost: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 11:17:11 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 00:43:57 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:


    Sir Lawrence, you are going to be hard-pressed to convince any but the
    most wide-eyed and gullible that Usenet is, in fact, the Internet.


    Hmm. Let's see. I can access Usenet via the NNTP protocol on
    TCP port 119. That sure sounds like "Internet" to me.

    In fact, Usenet, just like ftp, used to accessible within browsers.

    I suspect that this ignoramus buffoon actually meant to claim that
    Usenet is not the "World Wide Web."


    I forgot to mention that Usenet has it's own URL scheme. To access
    Usenet just enter into your browser:

    news://<message-id>

    But most, if not all, current browsers, will choke on that. The fault,
    of course, is the browser as this is a perfectly legitimate URL scheme.





    --
    Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 17 13:10:45 2025
    Le 17-08-2025, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> a écrit :
    On 16 Aug 2025 15:10:48 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote
    in <68a09f78$0$423$426a34cc@news.free.fr>:

    I've another way to diminish the number of messages I read is my ISP.
    It's broken and doesn't transfer everything. As I can't read everything,
    you could say it's a kind of fighting freedom of speech. But I choose to
    stay with it because it helps me to take less time on Usenet.

    Well that sucks.

    In a way, yes because sometimes I don't see interesting messages. Often, interesting messages get an answer and I can see them through the
    answer. Other times, I don't see interesting messages at all. But I
    can't see everything that's worth of reading. More interesting books are printed in a month than I can read in my life. It's the same with the
    Internet blogs. So, I need filter to avoid just running after impossible things. And it's a kind of help to pass less time involved with Usenet.

    Have you considered an account at eternal-september.org or
    individual.net? The former is gratis, and the latter is 10 euros/yr.
    Text only.

    /bin/bash: ligne 1: q: commande introuvable
    my ISP. The choosing part meaning I considered alternatives.

    --
    Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
    https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 17 09:31:58 2025
    On 2025-08-17 5:03 a.m., Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
    Le 17-08-2025, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> a écrit :
    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 00:16:22 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

    Says the dumbass who thinks that using Linux somehow lowers the cost of
    bread.

    Competition does lower prices. Think Microsoft could charge as much for
    Windows and Office if there weren’t cheaper alternatives?

    Now, they advertisement in Windows to level up their revenues.

    If you paid for a Windows license by purchasing a computer or buying a
    boxed version of it, then there should be no advertisements in Windows.
    If Windows was obtained as a free upgrade, Microsoft has a right to
    advertise in a targeted way. If people didn't want to get ads or be
    targeted, they could have opted out of updating their systems.

    Granted, Microsoft didn't give them much of a choice when it forced
    upgrades on Windows 10 installs.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    Islam is the enemy
    John 14:6

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Farley Flud on Sun Aug 17 10:08:05 2025
    XPost: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy

    Farley Flud wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 11:17:11 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 00:43:57 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:


    Sir Lawrence, you are going to be hard-pressed to convince any but the
    most wide-eyed and gullible that Usenet is, in fact, the Internet.


    Hmm. Let's see. I can access Usenet via the NNTP protocol on
    TCP port 119. That sure sounds like "Internet" to me.

    In fact, Usenet, just like ftp, used to accessible within browsers.

    I suspect that this ignoramus buffoon actually meant to claim that
    Usenet is not the "World Wide Web."


    I forgot to mention that Usenet has it's own URL scheme. To access
    Usenet just enter into your browser:

    news://<message-id>

    But most, if not all, current browsers, will choke on that. The fault,
    of course, is the browser as this is a perfectly legitimate URL scheme.

    Chrome:

    news://pan$a6f6a$2aa20de0$8e5082a2$8f4317f2@linux.rocks [your post]

    LinuxRocks.Online

    https://linuxrocks.online : Trending

    KDE Gear 25.08 - Summertime edition has arrived! Look forward
    to new features in Itinerary, Dolphin, NeoChat and more.
    Whether you need to brush up on ...

    Firefox: same

    Lynx: Could not access

    I grow fatigued...

    --
    Let me do my TRIBUTE to FISHNET STOCKINGS ...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to CtrlAltDel on Sun Aug 17 19:33:50 2025
    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 00:05:13 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 00:03:57 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:

    as if it someone makes their teeny-tiny penis larger by having done so,
    are you?

    as if it *somehow* makes their teeny-tiny penis larger by having done
    so, are you?

    I prefer to compensate for my teeny-tiny penis with large caliber
    firearms. My pickup won't work since it is well before the era of Monster Trucks and doesn't require a stepladder to mount and two parking spaces.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to CtrlAltDel on Sun Aug 17 19:29:50 2025
    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 00:03:57 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:

    You aren't one those pitiful souls who cackle to the world that they
    have just kill-filed someone, as if it someone makes their teeny-tiny
    penis larger by having done so, are you?

    Well, I do wave a cheerful buh-bye to Larry when I kill his latest sock
    puppet.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to CtrlAltDel on Sun Aug 17 19:36:10 2025
    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 23:57:26 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:

    I state that I don't prefer to use keyboard commands to move files in a
    file manager, and people outlandishly suggest I am being hypocritical by typing out messages on Usenet.

    I do whatever makes sense at the time. I do tend to use the file manager
    more in Windows.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOlivei@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 18 00:20:37 2025
    On 17 Aug 2025 09:03:53 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

    Le 17-08-2025, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> a écrit :

    Competition does lower prices. Think Microsoft could charge as much
    for Windows and Office if there weren’t cheaper alternatives?

    Now, they advertisement in Windows to level up their revenues.

    I don’t think that’s helping enough, though. I think the deliberate
    mass obsolescence Microsoft has brought in with the Windows 10 → 11 transition is in part a revenue grab.

    You can see the effect of declining Windows revenues in the
    corresponding decline that Microsoft has been making in keeping up the
    quality of the software.

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 18 18:08:58 2025
    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 10:16:58 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com>
    wrote in <107sa6q$2783v$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 17 Aug 2025 10:12:08 GMT, vallor wrote:

    Already showed it to Mrs. vallor,

    Got a picture?

    Sure, why not?

    https://ibb.co/RTR9jD5C

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    OOOld tagline: "MS-DOS: celebrating ten years of obsolescence"

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to rbowman on Mon Aug 18 18:18:31 2025
    On 17 Aug 2025 19:33:50 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in <mgep4uF32aU3@mid.individual.net>:

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 00:05:13 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 00:03:57 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:

    as if it someone makes their teeny-tiny penis larger by having done
    so,
    are you?

    as if it *somehow* makes their teeny-tiny penis larger by having done
    so, are you?

    I prefer to compensate for my teeny-tiny penis with large caliber
    firearms. My pickup won't work since it is well before the era of
    Monster Trucks and doesn't require a stepladder to mount and two parking spaces.

    I had a Dodge RAM 2500 once, king cab, 4WD. Took it on 40
    miles of bad road 4-wheeling with my folks in their pickup,
    heading up to see Peter Lassen's grave.

    A tail light rattled off. My STI would have been better.

    That thing was a mess. Sold it for peanuts, was just glad to
    be rid of the thing. I guess my Dodge wasn't "RAM tough".

    The thing about Subarus is that they are built by Fuji Heavy
    Industries -- an aircraft company. I think they're the best
    bang for the buck on the market, which is why we now drive
    an Ascent.

    Thinking of trading in the STI for Subaru's new electric car -- either
    that or an up-market WRX, which supports "eyesight" for things like
    adaptive cruise control. (The STI, being manual shift, doesn't support
    it.)

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    "Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects."

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  • From CtrlAltDel@21:1/5 to vallor on Mon Aug 18 19:22:45 2025
    On 18 Aug 2025 18:08:58 GMT, vallor wrote:

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 10:16:58 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com>
    wrote in <107sa6q$2783v$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 17 Aug 2025 10:12:08 GMT, vallor wrote:

    Already showed it to Mrs. vallor,

    Got a picture?

    Sure, why not?

    https://ibb.co/RTR9jD5C

    😆️ That's nice, but I meant some pix of Mrs. Vallor.

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    into an abyss and fully immersed in a drowning pool of mental illness.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to vallor on Tue Aug 19 00:32:46 2025
    On 18 Aug 2025 18:18:31 GMT, vallor wrote:

    The thing about Subarus is that they are built by Fuji Heavy Industries
    -- an aircraft company. I think they're the best bang for the buck on
    the market, which is why we now drive an Ascent.

    norm around here: black Lab, red neckerchief, Suburu Forester

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to jaworski1978@adres.pl on Tue Aug 19 13:40:08 2025
    🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> wrote at 23:57 this Friday (GMT):
    W dniu 15.08.2025 o 22:20, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 pisze:
    W dniu 15.08.2025 o 20:53, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 pisze:
    W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
    Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
    the mental variety.

    This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like
    Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like
    Blender, without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and
    nonsense!!!

    The same is true for all Libre Office apps, especially for LO Writer
    word processor.

    The same is true for all non-linear audio and video editors, like for
    e.g. Audacity and Kdenlive.


    GUI file managers and Desktop file icons also use drag and drop.
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    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Farley Flud on Tue Aug 19 13:50:03 2025
    XPost: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy

    Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote at 11:26 this Sunday (GMT):
    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 11:17:11 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 00:43:57 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote:


    Sir Lawrence, you are going to be hard-pressed to convince any but the
    most wide-eyed and gullible that Usenet is, in fact, the Internet.


    Hmm. Let's see. I can access Usenet via the NNTP protocol on
    TCP port 119. That sure sounds like "Internet" to me.

    In fact, Usenet, just like ftp, used to accessible within browsers.

    I suspect that this ignoramus buffoon actually meant to claim that
    Usenet is not the "World Wide Web."


    I forgot to mention that Usenet has it's own URL scheme. To access
    Usenet just enter into your browser:

    news://<message-id>

    But most, if not all, current browsers, will choke on that. The fault,
    of course, is the browser as this is a perfectly legitimate URL scheme.


    On Librewolf, it just asks what program to open it in, and offers to set default. Doesn't work with slrn, but it does definitely /sort of/
    support the scheme.
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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 19 14:14:50 2025
    XPost: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy

    On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 13:50:03 +0000, candycanearter07 wrote:


    On Librewolf, it just asks what program to open it in, and offers to set default. Doesn't work with slrn, but it does definitely /sort of/
    support the scheme.


    Current browsers have eliminated nearly all Internet protocols other
    than http/https. I believe that browsers even no longer support ftp,
    so we will need other programs for that.

    In fact Chrome probably won't support http in the near future. In
    the deranged, security-obsessed minds of Google fascists (i.e. developoers) only https will be permitted.




    --
    Hail Linux! Hail FOSS! Hail Stallman!

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 19 14:09:00 2025
    On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 13:40:08 +0000, candycanearter07 wrote:

    🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> wrote at 23:57 this Friday (GMT):
    W dniu 15.08.2025 o 22:20, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 pisze:
    W dniu 15.08.2025 o 20:53, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 pisze: >>>> W dniu 15.08.2025 o 10:40, Lester Thorpe pisze:
    Brother, if you actually use D&D then you need treatment of
    the mental variety.

    This sentence is stupid as hell!!! eg.: How about graphic editor like
    Gimp or Krita, or how about CAD, or how about 3D modelling like
    Blender, without drag-and-drop feature?!? This is impossible and
    nonsense!!!

    The same is true for all Libre Office apps, especially for LO Writer
    word processor.

    The same is true for all non-linear audio and video editors, like for
    e.g. Audacity and Kdenlive.


    GUI file managers and Desktop file icons also use drag and drop.


    This post proves my assertion that there are no gurus on this dump,
    but only ignoramus dumb-fucks.

    To effect true D&D (and not the copy-paste actions in CAD, etc.) an Interprocess Communication (IPC) is required. Currently, IPC within
    desktop environments is effected with dbus. IOW, if one wants D&D
    then one must have IPC and IPC is usually only characteristic of a
    desktop environment (DE). But not all GNU/Linux systems (certainly
    not mine) are DEs. Outside of a DE there will be no D&D and that
    is the only way to go.

    An intelligent person (none on this dump) would have immediately
    assocated the OP with the degeneracy of DEs.

    Get some brains and then come back.






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    Hail Linux! Hail FOSS! Hail Stallman!

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  • From Scott Doty@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 19 10:42:12 2025
    In article <107vui5$381o7$3@dont-email.me>, Altie@BHam.com says...

    On 18 Aug 2025 18:08:58 GMT, vallor wrote:

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 10:16:58 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com>
    wrote in <107sa6q$2783v$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 17 Aug 2025 10:12:08 GMT, vallor wrote:

    Already showed it to Mrs. vallor,

    Got a picture?

    Sure, why not?

    https://ibb.co/RTR9jD5C

    ?? That's nice, but I meant some pix of Mrs. Vallor.


    https://postimg.cc/Lnkv2dTB

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to Scott Doty on Fri Aug 22 03:59:17 2025
    On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 10:42:12 -0400, Scott Doty <dooty@dooty.net> wrote in <MPG.430e574b68ef9ea19898f5@news.usenetexpress.com>:

    In article <107vui5$381o7$3@dont-email.me>, Altie@BHam.com says...

    On 18 Aug 2025 18:08:58 GMT, vallor wrote:

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 10:16:58 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com>
    wrote in <107sa6q$2783v$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 17 Aug 2025 10:12:08 GMT, vallor wrote:

    Already showed it to Mrs. vallor,

    Got a picture?

    Sure, why not?

    https://ibb.co/RTR9jD5C

    ?? That's nice, but I meant some pix of Mrs. Vallor.


    https://postimg.cc/Lnkv2dTB

    SURRENDER DOROTHY

    ...does your husband know yet? That you want to kill me,
    eat me, and wear my skin?

    Do you keep Toto on a short leash?

    He likes it, doesn't he?

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