• Re: Posted because I agree, and it is important (1/2)

    From Nobody@21:1/5 to Brock McNuggets on Wed Aug 20 23:39:07 2025
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    Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote in news:68a652a0$0$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    On Aug 20, 2025 at 2:53:13 PM MST, "pothead" wrote <1085g49$irap$3@dont-email.me>:

    On 2025-08-20, LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org>
    wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 20:59:07 -0000 (UTC), pothead
    <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    On 2025-08-20, LeftistDon'tMatter
    <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org> wrote:
    On 20 Aug 2025 18:27:47 GMT, Brock McNuggets
    <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Aug 20, 2025 at 11:14:49?AM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote
    <tgopQ.147605$uCGc.33958@fx14.iad>:

    On 8/20/25 2:02 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Aug 20, 2025 at 10:39:46?AM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote
    <CLnpQ.69476$nuHb.16009@fx10.iad>:
    On 8/20/25 12:51 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    the [U.S.]
    system [will collapse], as must happen.

    I want to counter you but fear you are right.

    Earlier this year, the white-liberal political-science natural >>>>>>>>> in me tried to say Trump was basically a Democrat in disguise >>>>>>>>> and we could work together.

    I hoped in his first term the office would mature him. I was
    wrong. And he is now more unhinged.


    It's civil war, they have aligned themselves with the same
    people they defeated in WWII, Hitler and the Aryan race, maybe I >>>>>>> own some responsibility for that in provoking them in my youth,
    when I was such a wigger, but oh well, I was just being myself,
    and I've emerged as a far better man than DJT could ever be.
    They might not like that my GF has a cock, and that I talk like
    a black supremacist, but fuck them in the ass, they are the ones >>>>>>> destroying our society under Trump. War, revolution now.

    All Americans should unite to work against Trump / MAGA.


    That was utter error. He's woke, now. I'm all in on
    revolution.

    Woke?


    Not the president, the spirit within me who had been a white
    liberal.

    Got it.

    <LOL> at leftist fantasies.

    Don't waste your time with these 2 Nimrods, snit(Brock McNuggets)
    Michael Glasser of Prescott AZ and
    Joel Crump who believes he is Jesus Christ.

    They are 2 psychopaths.

    Many leftists are freaks.``

    Yep.
    The Republican party is far from perfect but at least they are not
    insane like the Democrats.

    You back white supremacist rhetoric.

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    You keep reposting these same message-ids but yet when I look at them I
    see nothing that indicates the person you are victimizing as a white supremacist actually being one. Below here is the actual text from your message-ids.

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    On Aug 3, 2025 at 1:52:00 PM MST, "pothead" wrote <106oi5g$1qce8$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 2025-08-03, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:106ogqc$1q361$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-08-03, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:75idnRVbPJMZKhL1nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com:

    pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-02, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 11:54:13 -0700, Trump Is A Pederast wrote:

    You're asking the wrong idiot. "pothole," a MAGAt to an extreme, >>>>>>>> supports Trump's Big Butt-Ugly Bill, despite the indisputable
    fact that it *further* rigs the system in favor of billionaires. >>>>>>>
    In pothead's defense, he is not an extreme MAGA. The rest of
    your
    paragraph is correct though.

    Thank you.
    I am not MAGA other than I want to put America first.
    All the rah, rah, I detest.





    And in putting "America First" he dehumanizes everyone else. It's
    *human* first, nation much later.

    You are a typical progressive.
    What country doesn't put their citizens first and foremost?

    tRump's country.

    And putting America first does in no way dehumanize other countries.

    you want to deport anyone who came from another country - you call
    them
    criminals

    Wrong.
    I want to deport people who came here illegally.
    And yes, since they came here illegally, they *are* criminals.

    I stand for protecting the legal citizens of the USA over coddling
    rapists, gang members, wife beaters and so forth.

    Ah, the ol' "They broke the law, so deport them!" routine -- a classic
    from
    the white supremacist greatest hits album. Let's be real: this kind of
    post is
    less about law and more about which "criminals" you're mad at. Spoiler:
    it's
    never white Canadians who overstay their visas.

    Calling all undocumented immigrants "rapists, gang members, wife
    beaters" is
    textbook collective punishment. It's also exactly how white nationalists
    have
    always framed marginalized groups -- paint them all as violent threats so
    you
    can justify cruelty. Look up VDare or Trump's 2015 campaign launch if you
    need
    a refresher on that garbage.

    And "protecting legal citizens" sounds patriotic until you realize it's
    code
    for "white people first." That's the heart of modern ethno-nationalism.
    Same
    poison, just wrapped in the flag.

    Oh, and calling humanitarian policies "coddling"? That's right-wing speak
    for
    "I want to feel good about being a jerk to desperate people." Ask John
    Tanton
    or Tucker Carlson -- they wrote the playbook.

    This isn't a post about law and order. It's a post about racial hierarchy
    --
    where some people matter more than others because of where they were born
    and
    what they look like. So yeah, if it walks, quacks, and posts like a white supremacist...

    Sources:
    U.S. Code S1325 - Improper Entry by Alien: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325

    SPLC on VDare: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/vdare

    ADL on Replacement Theory: https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/great-replacement-theory

    SPLC on John Tanton and FAIR: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/federation- american-immigration-reform

    NPR on Tucker Carlson's white nationalist talking points: https://www.npr.org/2023/04/24/1171796405/tucker-carlson-fox-news-fired


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    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace
    with you



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    On May 25, 2025 at 10:49:31 AM MST, "pothead" wrote <100vl7b$1g6bh$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 2025-05-25, Charlie Glock <charlieglock@localhost.com> wrote:
    On 25 May 2025 16:19:32 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On May 25, 2025 at 8:48:34 AM MST, "Charlie Glock" wrote
    <68333bd2$13$16$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

    On 24 May 2025 23:42:51 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On May 24, 2025 at 4:36:48 PM MST, "pothead" wrote
    <100tl6g$v3go$8@dont-email.me>:

    On 2025-05-24, Charlie Glock <charlieglock@localhost.com> wrote:
    On 23 May 2025 14:59:43 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On May 23, 2025 at 5:20:18 AM MST, "pothead" wrote
    <100pp62$2sgn$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 2025-05-22, Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noone.none>
    wrote:
    On 2025-05-22, Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    (snip crap)

    Where is all your...

    <https://i.postimg.cc/9VSnRDfY/tech-talk.gif>

    ...? How much can you fit in while you're doing all of
    *that*?!


    If the republicans bill passes the senate as is,
    snit will have even less time to troll.

    Ah, the old “if you criticize conservatives, you must be on
    welfare”
    routine.
    You don’t actually address what the bill does—just take a cheap >>>>>>>> shot based on an assumption. If you want to talk policy, I’m
    game.
    If not, enjoy yelling into the void.


    Where does pothead say that?
    I'm not seeing it.
    Cite please.
    Or is this another made up lie from you snit?


    I never said that.
    It's just yet another snit lie.

    Why do you deny being a white supremacist but then echo white
    supremacist talking points?

    <100sjei$ngvm$1@dont-email.me>

    That post has nothing to do with white supremacy. Pothead is talking
    about fiscal responsibility and not giving benefits to millions of
    illegal migrants. More white supremacists drive Chevy pickup trucks
    than any other brand so if you happen to drive a Chevy pickup truck
    does that make you a white supremacist?

    Also, some 80% of citizens are in favor of deporting illegal
    migrants
    so are they white supremacists as well?

    <https://www.axios.com/2025/01/19/poll-americans-mass-deportation- policies-trump>

    Here is the post you refer to in the msg-id you posted.

    <https://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3C100sjei%24ngvm% 241%40dont-email.me%3E>



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    On 2025-05-24, Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noone.none> wrote:
    On 2025-05-23, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    what's your point how does this effect your life

    Like the rest of us, she funds it. The U.S. needs to stop funding
    people who could work but instead choose to game the system. It's
    no
    wonder so many people like this, like Glasser, goofishly believe
    they're smarter than those they're 'getting over on'.

    "We are not entitled to have our needs met... though we SHOULD
    grant
    that to those who are in need." - Hypocritic, Michael Glasser


    Indeed.
    Public assistance was designed as a temporary, in most cases,
    lifeline
    to provide aid in times of trouble.
    With the exception of the severely disabled, it was not meant to be
    a
    lifetime grifting operation.
    And trust me there are a LOT of people gaming the system and some
    are
    probably your neighbors, the person you see driving a newer model
    car
    and so forth.
    Those types usually have their own business, mostly cash, 2 sets of
    books and a smart accountant. They take advantage of every
    government
    program they can (PPP, COVID,loans never to be paid back etc) and
    thus
    are not paying taxes on most of it.

    I'm glad that Trump is going after these lazy grifters because it
    means
    that more funds are available for those people who really need the
    help.

    Something needs to be done because the country is in serious debt
    and
    the Biden administration via open borders has allowed millions more
    people many of whom have no intention of working and are leaching
    off
    the government which means the hard working taxpayers are funding
    it.

    It is not sustainable in the long term.

    It's always the same script: take a real issue (say, budget concerns
    or
    immigration logistics), strip away all nuance, then repackage it with
    paranoid delusions and dehumanizing stereotypes. What you call
    "fiscal
    responsibility" is just white nationalist framing with a patriotic
    bumper sticker slapped on.

    You're not just repeating bad arguments -- you're repeating dangerous
    ones. The whole "lazy grifters gaming the system" line has been a
    staple
    of white supremacist propaganda for decades. It's no coincidence it
    always targets the same groups: immigrants, people of color, the
    poor,
    anyone who doesn't fit the "ideal" image of who you think deserves to
    exist comfortably in this country.

    And let's not kid ourselves about who's writing this. Charlie Glock?
    Please. The writing, the references, the panicked tone wrapped in
    faux-intellectual posturing -- it reeks of Steve Carroll sock-
    puppetry.
    Carroll has a whole stable of fake identities, all built to agree
    with
    him, praise him, or attack whoever he's obsessed with that week.
    Glock
    is just another echo from the same sewer.

    That matters, because when someone has to use multiple identities to
    prop up their views, it means they know deep down those views can't
    stand on their own. It's intellectual cowardice. It's manipulation.
    And
    it reveals something even uglier: Carroll doesn't just parrot white
    supremacist narratives -- he needs to make it look like others
    believe
    them too. He manufactures fake consensus to give hate a crowd.

    So when one of his sock puppets defends white nationalist rhetoric
    under
    the guise of "common sense" or "fiscal responsibility," don't take
    the
    bait. This isn't a good-faith conversation. It's a propaganda loop,
    scripted and performed by a guy so dishonest he can't even debate as
    himself.

    If you need a dozen fake names to make your argument look popular,
    you
    don't have an argument. You have a cult, and it's made up entirely of
    you and your shills and other white supremacists.

    So you got caught in another lie.
    Some things never change.

    snit gets caught in lies on a daily basis. At least he is consistent.

    Here is more about Medicaid waste.
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    On May 24, 2025 at 7:00:50 AM MST, "pothead" wrote <100sjei$ngvm$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 2025-05-24, Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noone.none> wrote:
    On 2025-05-23, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    what's your point how does this effect your life

    Like the rest of us, she funds it. The U.S. needs to stop funding
    people
    who could work but instead choose to game the system. It's no wonder
    so
    many people like this, like Glasser, goofishly believe they're
    smarter
    than those they're 'getting over on'.

    "We are not entitled to have our needs met... though we SHOULD grant
    that to those who are in need." - Hypocritic, Michael Glasser


    Indeed.
    Public assistance was designed as a temporary, in most cases, lifeline
    to provide aid in times of trouble.
    With the exception of the severely disabled, it was not meant to be a
    lifetime
    grifting operation.
    And trust me there are a LOT of people gaming the system and some are probably your neighbors, the person you see driving a newer model car
    and
    so forth.
    Those types usually have their own business, mostly cash, 2 sets of
    books
    and a smart accountant. They take advantage of every government program
    they
    can (PPP, COVID,loans never to be paid back etc) and thus are not
    paying taxes
    on most of it.

    I'm glad that Trump is going after these lazy grifters because it means
    that
    more funds are available for those people who really need the help.

    Something needs to be done because the country is in serious debt and
    the Biden
    administration via open borders has allowed millions more people many
    of whom have no intention of working and are leaching off the
    government which
    means the hard working taxpayers are funding it.

    It is not sustainable in the long term.

    You whine when you are called out for your white supremacist nonsense,
    but
    once again you show STRONG support and alignment with such views. Why do
    that
    when you deny you do that?



    ? False or Misleading Claims:

    1. “LOTS of people are gaming the system” – This is an
    overgeneralization and not backed by meaningful data. Most people on
    assistance are elderly, disabled, or working poor. The myth of the
    welfare
    queen persists, but it’s largely debunked.

    2. “Trump is going after these lazy grifters” – No current evidence supports Trump initiating new significant crackdowns on welfare fraud as
    of
    May 2025. Prior actions mainly involved work requirements and budget
    cuts, not
    major enforcement sweeps.

    3. “Biden’s open borders” – The claim that Biden has “open borders”
    is
    politically charged and factually incorrect. Border enforcement continued
    under his administration. Immigration is complex and legal/illegal entry enforcement remained active.

    4. “Millions leeching with no intent to work” – No support provided
    for
    this claim. In fact, undocumented immigrants are ineligible for most
    federal
    benefits and often pay taxes via ITINs or false SSNs.

    ?

    ?? Behavioral/Psychological Insight

    The post uses classic “scapegoating” language—assigning blame to a
    vaguely
    defined outgroup (welfare recipients, immigrants). The author leans on anecdotal evidence (“probably your neighbors…”) and exaggeration, which reflects a confirmation bias: seeing fraud where they expect it and
    assuming
    the worst of people they disapprove of.

    Tone-wise, it’s aggressive, absolutist, and contemptuous, especially with
    “lazy grifters” and “leaching off the government.” It suggests a
    resentful
    mindset, likely shaped by cultural or political identity more than actual
    data.

    There’s also a heavy us-vs-them framing—“hardworking taxpayers” versus “grifters”—which is emotionally powerful but factually weak.

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------

    Q: How well does this align with white supremacist talking points?

    A: Good question — let’s take a hard look at how this post overlaps with
    common white supremacist or ethnonationalist talking points, even if it
    doesn’t explicitly state them.

    ?

    ?? Key Areas of Alignment with White Supremacist Narratives:

    1. “Lazy grifters” vs. “hardworking taxpayers”
    • This us-vs-them framing is often used in white nationalist
    circles to
    paint minorities, immigrants, or low-income people (especially non-white)
    as
    undeserving parasites feeding off the labor of “real Americans.”
    • It’s coded language — not racial on the surface, but heavily
    racialized in context and usage.

    2. “Open borders” = invasion
    • The line about “open borders” and “millions… leaching off the government” taps directly into the white replacement theory — the
    paranoid
    idea that white people are being replaced by immigrants (usually
    brown-skinned) who will drain resources and destroy national identity.
    • This is textbook great replacement rhetoric, a key pillar of
    modern
    white supremacist ideology.

    3. Distrust of public programs framed as racialized theft
    • The notion that public assistance is being abused (especially by
    those
    who “look like they shouldn’t need it”) has deep roots in Reagan-era dog whistles and racial resentment politics. It’s common in white supremacist spaces to frame welfare as a racial handout.

    4. Anti-Biden as proxy for anti-immigrant hate
    • While criticizing a political figure isn’t inherently
    supremacist,
    this post’s criticism centers on immigration and the supposed failure to control “leaching” — which is how a lot of far-right groups package
    ethnic
    resentment as economic concern.

    ?

    ?? Behavioral Pattern:

    The poster may or may not consciously identify with white nationalism,
    but
    they’re echoing talking points promoted by those movements — especially
    when
    it comes to:
    • framing immigrants and welfare recipients as existential
    threats,
    • implying racial coding without saying it outright,
    • and pushing the idea of a morally superior, victimized taxpayer
    base.

    This kind of post normalizes racialized scapegoating even when it doesn’t openly invoke race — a hallmark of “dog whistle” politics.

    ?

    ?? Summary:

    Alignment with white supremacist rhetoric: ????? (high, though not
    explicit)
    • No overt racial slurs or declarations, but the themes (welfare
    fraud,
    “open borders,” “grifters,” “hardworking taxpayers”) strongly mirror the
    coded
    language and resentment narratives common in far-right and white
    supremacist
    circles.
    • It’s a case of amplifying the ideology without necessarily
    stating it
    outright, which is more dangerous in some ways because it helps
    mainstream
    those views.

    Let me know if you want a short version of this to post, or a more
    forceful
    reply that calls it out directly.

    --
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    with you.

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    On Aug 7, 2025 at 3:43:04 PM MST, "pothead" wrote <1073a5n$aoqa$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 2025-08-07, Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noone.none> wrote:
    On 2025-08-06, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    That's why we have courts -- to weigh the evidence and
    come to a conclusion. I trust judges much more than
    ICE agents trying to earn a "bonus".

    I do not want dangerous people, criminals, terrorists, lunatics
    entering the country willy nilly just because they have been coached
    to answer asylum questions correctly.

    And that's why, only *after* it was realized that it would effect the
    upcoming election... after years of allowing, scratch that,
    encouraging
    people to illegally cross the border... where many would be illegally
    distributed throughout the interior of the U.S. under cover of
    darkness
    with the support of the federal gov't, Biden instituted the Asylum
    Ban,
    a bandaid that wasn't actually followed.

    The bill that was defeated had tons of pork in it and also had limits
    on
    how many people, and the number was huge, could immigrate per month.
    IOW it was just a talking point that the democrats could use to say
    "see, we
    had a plan to close the border and the Republicans wouldn't support
    us".

    It fooled nobody.


    Ask those making arguments like you're addressing one simple question:

    *Is* there a number (of illegal crossers or money spent on them) that
    would cause them to say 'no more'?

    There is no number.
    Come one, come all.
    Criminals, terrorists, mental patients etc.

    And yes, many are honest people just looking to improve their lives.
    I get that.
    Do it legally and you are welcomed.



    IOW, suppose the number wasn't 20 million illegal aliens that needed
    to
    go to court (over asylum, which the vast majority are denied but it
    still costs the taxpayer), suppose it was 200 million, or 500? Should
    we
    go broke 'weighing all this evidence' (not even considering the amount
    of money spent, at a net loss, elsewhere on illegals) from people all
    over the world? We already know that most of the claims are bogus,
    which
    is one of the reasons *why* you prevent people from 'crossing the
    line'
    in the first place when you have an influx as large as we've seen
    while
    trying to 'let the courts decide'. I've never seen anyone answer this
    blatantly obvious question of where their 'cutoff' point would be.

    With what the Biden administration has done with the current court
    system it
    will
    be a decade or more before all of these people are given their "due
    process",
    which
    is the left wing phrase of the week.

    Funny they don't mention due process when people are raped, murdered
    etc by
    these
    same illegals.


    *If* you've no 'cutoff' point, where do you suppose that would lead?

    Were it not for a *tRUMP* (meaning: him or someone else actually
    willing
    to secure the border), who has any doubt that the number would
    eventually rise to 200 million or more?

    It could.
    Come one.
    Come all.

    What would you do if you lived in an oppressed country?
    Yea, me too.


    As to 'the law', here's one Biden took an oath to, that of securing
    the
    border; it's *not* 'the law' to have engaged in aiding the cartels at
    taxpayer expense. That was done for several years (and it'll be many
    more than that trying to correct it, if it's even correctable) under
    Biden... who, along with Obama and Hillary Clinton supported the
    Secure
    Fence Act, which highlights massive irony being that Biden sold off,
    at
    a loss, building materials Congress supplied for the same purpose.
    'The
    law' is invoked when it's convenient, ignored when it's not, and that
    can be pointed out as coming from anyone. My take: Along with the
    things
    I just mentioned in this paragraph, when someone's reality has become,
    "That's why we have courts", in a situation like we now have, it's a
    good indicator we've lost control of the situation the courts are
    charged with solving. When a country's position is essentially...

    Come on over and roll our asylum dice at our expense, you may win!

    ... 'the law' should be the last thing on any sensible person's mind.

    When someone can't/won't answer the obvious 'cutoff point' question,
    you
    know who you're dealing with and sensible has nothing to do with it.


    The democrats effectively opened the borders, cut back on enforcement,
    gave
    orders to stand down and so forth, lied to congress etc.

    There are only 3 reasons why they would have done this.

    1. They are idiots who didn't realize the chaos they were causing.

    2. They want to destroy the country so they can rebuild with a global socialism means.

    3. They want to flood the country with people who will settle in blue
    areas and thus because population controls seats (gerrymandering) they
    could gain control.

    Personally I think it's a combination of 2 and 3.






    OLAS time! Listen to this 'despicable, British racist' <eyeroll>:

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGrnFWiYo88>

    The number he cites is 'questionable'. Even if all 120,000 (I've since

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