• Re: Tcp/Ip vs a store & forward network

    From KP KP@21:1/5 to Michael Padlipsky on Tue Aug 2 07:18:20 2022
    On Tuesday, April 14, 1987 at 11:44:06 AM UTC-7, Michael Padlipsky wrote:
    Just got around to reading the Subj: msg and hope it's not too late
    to point out that the desired effect (of passwordless "spoolers" via
    FTP) can be achieved straightforwardly given the mechanisms of a
    couple of my old (one ancient, actually) RFCs. Since it would take
    longer for me to find the numbers than to summarize, here goes:
    Back in ~'73, when mail was done via FTP, we had a problem with
    not having all Hosts able/willing to let given users in without
    passwords (indeed, some Hosts didn't even demand USER commands,
    muchless PASSs, but others demanded both). In a little thing
    called "What Is 'Free'?" (RFC # in the 500s, I expect), I suggested
    that any mail senders which encountered the Login Expected FTP
    code should use USER NETML and PASS NETML (and any mail receivers
    on systems that demanded logins should duly cause the appropriate
    accounts to be created). Seems to me we could do the same thing
    with "NETSPL" for the passwordless aspect of the current thing.
    Then a year or two ago (and this one actually is in the latest
    version of the FTP RFC), for some obscure reason I decided there
    ought to be an FTP command for STOring under a Unique name for use
    in all sorts of "pool" directory cases, so if I remembered that
    one's number and the other one's I could have just said Why not use
    the RFC 5xx and 9xx tricks? (By the way, the 5xx trick was duly
    implemented and worked for years [even if nobody other than
    Multics did the receiving end part].)
    If my current state of seemingly eternal jetlag hasn't caused me
    to miss the point, I think that should do it. Do I need to
    write another RFC to forget the number of?
    cheers, map
    P.S. Lest anybody misunderstand, I was at Multics at the time and
    invented the fictious mail receiver thing in self defense; cf. pp.
    84-5 of The Book.
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    Tha'ts awesome.

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