The best RPG is the ARPG.
It is the only thing in the genre that I like.
Anyway, we did not get a Paladin class in Diablo IV.
The classes are the weak point of the game.
The upcoming expansion, Vessel of Hatred, had to give us a religious themed class.
Instead of the Crusader or the Monk, as in Diablo III, we will get the Spiritborn...
They have now released some gameplay.
I am not impressed.
There should be a knight with auras and hammers and things!
However, since this is "the first expansion", there could still be hope.
On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 19:45:24 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
I quit D4 after finishing its single player campaign as a barbarian a few weeks ago.
I quit Diablo on the PC after the second game. Blizzard's antics with
D3 were enough to turn me off from a franchise I was never that crazy
about to begin with. Nothing I've seen about D4 made me regret that
decision.
If I want to play an action-RPG, there are plenty of alternatives that
are as good or better. "Path of Exile" gets a lot of praise, but I was
quite satisfied with "Titan Quest".
But I'd much rather play something like "The Witcher 3". ;-)
If I want to play an action-RPG, there are plenty of alternatives that
are as good or better. "Path of Exile" gets a lot of praise, but I was
quite satisfied with "Titan Quest".
But I'd much rather play something like "The Witcher 3". ;-)
Yeah, D3 wasn't good.
Heck, I enjoyed Torchlight games. I couldn't get into The Witcher series.
On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 18:08:00 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
If I want to play an action-RPG, there are plenty of alternatives that
are as good or better. "Path of Exile" gets a lot of praise, but I was >quite satisfied with "Titan Quest".
As far as praise goes, I think Path of Exile and Grim Dawn get the
most if you ignore Diablo 2.
But I'd much rather play something like "The Witcher 3". ;-)
Like Ant, I am not sure if I would like the Witcher series. I never
played any of them.
Interesting. Did it expansion make D3 better?
I only played its playable demo. I remember its cutscene show the guy naked in the bath tub. Ha!
I thought Diablo 3 was excellent but I didn't play it until theI was disappointed when it released for PC, but then I bought it on the
expansion pack came out.
Then again, a lot of Blizzard's concern with D3 and D4 was focused on
aspects I just don't give a damn about: the multiplayer and grinding
levels and loot.
on Sat, 20 July 2024 17:41:15 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Interesting. Did it expansion make D3 better?
Yes, but this is just because the game itself had been out for awhile
by this point and Blizzard was fixing it.
I actually had no intentions of getting the game due to the bad press
it received at launch but the game was on sale when a friend asked me
to buy it so we could play together. I never saw the login issues, the
broken loot table or the real money AH because that stuff was fixed
and gone by the time I purchased it.
On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 17:41:53 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
I only played its playable demo. I remember its cutscene show the guy naked in the bath tub. Ha!
I remember him naked in the bath tub as well. I guess I saw the same cutscene.
Which Witcher game was it? Original?
Arguably I may have worsened the experience by playing
it on a console (honestly, any game that demands I use a gamepad feels
worse to me) but I don't think I'd have had more fun on a PC.
on Sat, 20 July 2024 17:41:15 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Interesting. Did it expansion make D3 better?
Yes, but this is just because the game itself had been out for awhile
by this point and Blizzard was fixing it.
I actually had no intentions of getting the game due to the bad press
it received at launch but the game was on sale when a friend asked me
to buy it so we could play together. I never saw the login issues, the
broken loot table or the real money AH because that stuff was fixed
and gone by the time I purchased it.
On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 16:52:45 -0400, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 00:23:44 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Which Witcher game was it? Original?
I am pretty sure that scene was in Witcher 3.
As far as I can recall, Geralt has been naked* in a bath in all three
games. Apparently the guy likes a good scrub. ;-)
But the third game starts with a prequel chapter that opens up with
him lounging in a tub. It's almost literally the first thing you see
in the game (and apparently the demo too) and thus it's the most
memorable.
(Geralt tubs it much later in games 1 and 2; it might even be
skippable in both games)
* presumably naked, anyway. The game didn't linger. He might have been wearing shorts beneath the soapy water. ;-)
The combat's o.k. Way better than 1 or 2.
On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 14:57:33 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 7/21/2024 10:12 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
Arguably I may have worsened the experience by playing
it on a console (honestly, any game that demands I use a gamepad feels
worse to me) but I don't think I'd have had more fun on a PC.
Ugh. I can't imagine. The game seems really set up for point and click.
On the other hand I enjoyed Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance and Bard's Tale
on the PS2 which are also ARPGs, so maybe I'm wrong.
Yeah, I got a lot of "Dark Alliance" vibes while playing D3 on
console. I don't know how well the gameplay on console compares to the
PC version, but it was... adequate. My problems with the game had more
to do with the game's design (shallow gameworlds, linear quests, too
much combat, unrewarding loot) than the fact I had to use a gamepad.
The same problems, I'm pretty sure, I'd have had if I'd played "Diablo
3" on PC.
But I can't necessarily disagree that the gamepad might have made the
game worse.
I actually rather enjoyed the "Dark Alliance" games, although I think
that was more because I was so surprised that the games were at all
playable with a gamepad. I expected a totally horrific experience, and >that... the "Dark Alliance" games weren't. They were simplistic, sure,
but fun, in a mindless popcorn-movie way.
[Yay for low expectations!]
That said, I enjoyed "Diablo 3" a lot less than those older games.
But, again, that's more because I just don't care for "Diablo's"
design. Those games, it seems to me, are more focussed on their
multplayer experience than the single-player, and this effects
everything in the game: the equipment, the skills, the monster
placement, the pacing. Everything is designed to be balanced in
multiplayer. "Dark Alliance" is primarily a single-player experience,
and this is reflected in how your character steadily becomes more and
more powerful. It's just more rewarding gameplay as far as I'm
concerned.
I found the first area in W3 a slog, it's kind of a really long
tutorial. If you do get it, and you find it a slog, I'd suggest
trying the option to start in one of the DLCs so you don't have to go
to the first area, you get to start with some gear and levels if you
do that too.
But most of that isn't evident from the start. It feels very much
'generic fantasy world #5662' and it gives you very little reason to
care to explore it. People who persevere will enjoy it, but I wouldn't
be surprised if a lot of players gave up before leaving the tutorial
map. It doesn't onboard new players well at all.
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