• Re: YA-NewsWatcher question (and other Classic Mac OS compatible newsre

    From Mike Dee@21:1/5 to scole on Sat Oct 19 22:51:40 2024
    scole wrote:

    So, I'm using YA-NewsWatcher, and I quite like it, but there's two
    things that bug the hell out of me that I can't figure out how to
    fix in its preferences.

    First, I'd like to keep read posts; at the moment, when I load a
    group and read posts, when I close and save, the read posts are
    not visible the next time I visit. In more modern newsreaders,
    there's been the choice to keep or discard read posts, but I can't
    find such a setting in YA-NW. Is there one?

    Secondly, threading; posts are gathered into threads, but the
    threads aren;t properly threaded, all follow-ups are nested
    beneath the original post, which makes it awkward to easily
    navigate the thread and follow the conversation. Again, other
    newsreaders I've used on OSX provide proper threading. Can I make
    YA-NW act like this?

    [...]

    I'm more familiar with MT-NewsWatcher, but as both YA-NW and MT-NW
    are based on John Norstads original NewsWatcher, their user commands
    may be similar if not the same. MT-NW is unchanged from the original NewsWatcher commands.

    In NewsWatcher - options for re-reading or keeping read articles:

    1). Open the group from the full group list instead of from your user
    group list. The full group list always shows all of the available
    articles on your server, whether you have read them or not.

    2). In your user group list window. Use the Mark Unread command in
    the News menu to mark the entire group unread. Open the group.
    i.e.; Command + U = Mark Unread

    3). Hold down the Option key while opening a group. You get asked to
    enter the most recent number of articles to fetch. Type a number
    which you think is big enough. This resets the list of unread
    articles in your group to be the most recent articles = to the number
    you added.

    Your easist option here, is the 2nd above, Command + U = Mark Unread

    Not sure about your 2nd querie, re threading. MT-NW seems to do this
    OK, but maybe it's a matter of what I'm comfortable with. And I
    haven't tried YA-NW in 20+ years, so don't remember how/if it
    differed.

    --
    dee

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Mike Dee on Sun Oct 20 11:37:28 2024
    In article <XnsB211644C44815mikedee@emteedee.invalid>,
    Mike Dee <mikedee@emteedee.invalid> wrote:

    Not sure about your 2nd querie, re threading. MT-NW seems to do this
    OK, but maybe it's a matter of what I'm comfortable with. And I
    haven't tried YA-NW in 20+ years, so don't remember how/if it
    differed.

    Yeah I'm using MT-NewsWatcher 3.5.3b3 on my MDD, I used to use YA-NW but
    I switched to MT. Like you it's been so long I don't remember why but it
    was probably because MT was still being developed after YA gave up the
    ghost.

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  • From Mike Dee@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 24 03:40:11 2024
    super70s wrote:

    Yeah I'm using MT-NewsWatcher 3.5.3b3 on my MDD, I used to use
    YA-NW but I switched to MT. Like you it's been so long I don't
    remember why but it was probably because MT was still being
    developed after YA gave up the ghost.


    Yes, though YA-NW ended after the developer Brian Clark, had created
    Thoth, which became a popular Mac shareware newsreader.

    Thoth, although good, being a time limited $$trialware didn't really
    appeal to me, when MT-NW was easily as good (and free). I didn't see
    the advantage.

    There was also a short-lived VA-NewsWatcher (Value Added-NewsWatcher)
    but it didn't develop much further than beyond it's initial release.

    --
    dee

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Mike Dee on Thu Oct 24 18:26:24 2024
    On 2024-10-24 03:40:11 +0000, Mike Dee said:
    super70s wrote:

    Yeah I'm using MT-NewsWatcher 3.5.3b3 on my MDD, I used to use
    YA-NW but I switched to MT. Like you it's been so long I don't
    remember why but it was probably because MT was still being
    developed after YA gave up the ghost.

    Yes, though YA-NW ended after the developer Brian Clark, had created
    Thoth, which became a popular Mac shareware newsreader.

    Thoth, although good, being a time limited $$trialware didn't really
    appeal to me, when MT-NW was easily as good (and free). I didn't see
    the advantage.

    There was also a short-lived VA-NewsWatcher (Value Added-NewsWatcher)
    but it didn't develop much further than beyond it's initial release.

    There is also Newswatcher-X cerated by the original Newswatcher
    developer, which (like Thoth) runs under early versions of MacOS X or
    can run under MacOS 9 with CarbonLib. <https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/newswatcher-x>

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Your Name on Thu Oct 24 18:28:28 2024
    On 2024-10-24 05:26:24 +0000, Your Name said:

    On 2024-10-24 03:40:11 +0000, Mike Dee said:
    super70s wrote:

    Yeah I'm using MT-NewsWatcher 3.5.3b3 on my MDD, I used to use
    YA-NW but I switched to MT. Like you it's been so long I don't
    remember why but it was probably because MT was still being
    developed after YA gave up the ghost.

    Yes, though YA-NW ended after the developer Brian Clark, had created
    Thoth, which became a popular Mac shareware newsreader.

    Thoth, although good, being a time limited $$trialware didn't really
    appeal to me, when MT-NW was easily as good (and free). I didn't see
    the advantage.

    There was also a short-lived VA-NewsWatcher (Value Added-NewsWatcher)
    but it didn't develop much further than beyond it's initial release.

    There is also Newswatcher-X cerated by the original Newswatcher
    developer, which (like Thoth) runs under early versions of MacOS X or
    can run under MacOS 9 with CarbonLib. <https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/newswatcher-x>

    Oops! That was meant to say it was created using the original
    Newswatcher, not by the original developer. :-\

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