• Jack Tramiel interview in 1985

    From Francois LE COAT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 27 14:45:17 2024
    Hi,

    Here I share an interview with Jack Tramiel in 1985, about the ST.

    *The Famous Computer Cafe 1985-01-17 Jack Tramiel (Atari)*
    *and Bobby Kotick (Arktronics)*
    Sur la chaine de Kay Savetz le 04/09/2024

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7RURDLgCl4>

    The Famous Computer Cafe 1985-01-17, with interviews with Jack Tramiel, chairman of Atari; and Bobby Kotick, chairman of Arktronics (age 21.)
    Aired on KFOX.

    Digitized from reel-to-reel tape by Harbor Digitizing of Friday Harbor, Washington.

    The Famous Computer Cafe recovery and digitization project was done by
    Kay Savetz in 2024. If you have access to other episodes of Famous
    Computer Cafe on tape, please contact Kay Savetz.

    It's been almost 40 years. I hope that this fortieth anniversary will
    be celebrated as it should be, next year. We learn that Jack Tramiel
    did not conceive the ATARI ST to do a real commercial business. But he
    wanted to reach people like us, students, not too fortunate, and who
    could not afford a Macintosh or an IBM/PC. Because computers were way
    too expensive at the moment he speaks...

    ATARIstically yours =)

    --
    François LE COAT
    Author of Eureka 2.12 (2D Graph Describer, 3D Modeller) https://eureka.atari.org/

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  • From Darklord@21:3/171 to Francois LE COAT on Thu Oct 31 19:52:10 2024
    Thanks for the link - will watch it later. I love those old video's. :)


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  • From Francois LE COAT@21:1/5 to Darklord on Fri Nov 1 10:40:33 2024
    Hi,

    Darklord writes:
    Thanks for the link - will watch it later. I love those old video's. :)

    It's a radio broadcast from Computer Cafe in January 1985. Just when
    the ATARI ST was presented at Las Vegas CES'85. I really hope a new
    computer from ATARI will be proposed to fans, forty years later...

    Regards,

    --
    François LE COAT
    Author of Eureka 2.12 (2D Graph Describer, 3D Modeller) https://eureka.atari.org/

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  • From Chris Ridd@21:1/5 to Francois LE COAT on Sat Nov 2 10:34:03 2024
    On 01/11/2024 09:40, Francois LE COAT wrote:
    Hi,

    Darklord writes:
    Thanks for the link - will watch it later. I love those old video's. :)

    It's a radio broadcast from Computer Cafe in January 1985. Just when
    the ATARI ST was presented at Las Vegas CES'85. I really hope a new
    computer from ATARI will be proposed to fans, forty years later...

    It was pretty short and not much more than a puff piece.

    Tramiel noted the just released 130ST and 520ST, and mentioned a "true
    32-bit" workstation was coming for hopefully less than $1000, which
    presumably became the TT.

    --
    Chris

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  • From Francois LE COAT@21:1/5 to Chris Ridd on Sat Nov 2 17:30:26 2024
    Hi,

    Chris Ridd writes:
    Francois LE COAT wrote:
    Darklord writes:
    Thanks for the link - will watch it later. I love those old video's. :)

    It's a radio broadcast from Computer Cafe in January 1985. Just when
    the ATARI ST was presented at Las Vegas CES'85. I really hope a new
    computer from ATARI will be proposed to fans, forty years later...

    It was pretty short and not much more than a puff piece.

    Tramiel noted the just released 130ST and 520ST, and mentioned a "true 32-bit" workstation was coming for hopefully less than $1000, which presumably became the TT.

    Jack Tramiel was talking to people like me, I was 20, who couldn't
    afford an authentic computer like Macintosh or IBM/PC, because it
    was way too expensive for us.

    Today, if ATARI was releasing the ATARI VCS all around the world,
    and join it an authentic ATARI ST keyboard, it would be great! We
    already have joysticks C40. That would seems as 40th anniversary :-)

    I would love programming on a true ATARI computer, again...

    Regards,

    --
    François LE COAT
    Author of Eureka 2.12 (2D Graph Describer, 3D Modeller) https://eureka.atari.org/

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  • From Darklord@21:3/171 to Francois LE COAT on Mon Nov 4 18:15:10 2024
    On 01 Nov 24 10:40:33 Francois LE COAT wrote...

    It's a radio broadcast from Computer Cafe in January 1985. Just when
    the ATARI ST was presented at Las Vegas CES'85. I really hope a new computer from ATARI will be proposed to fans, forty years later...

    Regards,

    -- François LE COAT Author of Eureka 2.12 (2D Graph Describer, 3D Modeller) https://eureka.atari.org/

    To which Darklord replies...

    Well, if nothing else, maybe we can hope that Wizztronics will release
    their '040 based Falcon that everyone's been talking about lately. I'd certainly love to see that! :)


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  • From Francois LE COAT@21:1/5 to Darklord on Wed Nov 6 20:12:26 2024
    Hi,

    Darklord writes:
    Francois LE COAT wrote:
    It's a radio broadcast from Computer Cafe in January 1985. Just when
    the ATARI ST was presented at Las Vegas CES'85. I really hope a new computer from ATARI will be proposed to fans, forty years later...

    Well, if nothing else, maybe we can hope that Wizztronics will release
    their '040 based Falcon that everyone's been talking about lately. I'd certainly love to see that! :)

    We know diverse ATARI clones since 1996. I have one, and we all know the
    the power of these computers. The big thing would be that the ATARI firm released another computer now, 40 years later. It should be partially compatible so that developers have the opportunity to port GEM software.

    Don't you think so?

    Regards,

    --
    François LE COAT
    Author of Eureka 2.12 (2D Graph Describer, 3D Modeller) https://eureka.atari.org/

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  • From Darklord@21:3/171 to Francois LE COAT on Mon Nov 18 20:41:44 2024
    On 06 Nov 24 20:12:26 Francois LE COAT wrote...

    We know diverse ATARI clones since 1996. I have one, and we all know
    the the power of these computers. The big thing would be that the
    ATARI firm released another computer now, 40 years later. It should
    be partially compatible so that developers have the opportunity to
    port GEM software.

    Don't you think so?

    Regards,

    -- François LE COAT Author of Eureka 2.12 (2D Graph Describer, 3D Modeller) https://eureka.atari.org/

    To which Darklord replies...

    Yes, I think it would be a bit crazy to start over from scratch. There's
    a decent size software library for the ST and it would be a shame for any
    one to just turn their back on it. :)


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  • From Francois LE COAT@21:1/5 to Darklord on Sun Nov 24 12:33:58 2024
    Hi,

    Darklord writes:
    Francois LE COAT wrote...
    We know diverse ATARI clones since 1996. I have one, and we all know
    the the power of these computers. The big thing would be that the
    ATARI firm released another computer now, 40 years later. It should
    be partially compatible so that developers have the opportunity to
    port GEM software.

    Don't you think so?

    Yes, I think it would be a bit crazy to start over from scratch. There's
    a decent size software library for the ST and it would be a shame for any
    one to just turn their back on it. :)

    GEM (Graphic Environment Manager) is existing for several platforms
    thanks to Digital Research (DR). We know it for ATARI ST, that means
    for Motorola 68k processors family. But it also exists for PC, that
    means for x86 processors. GEM is already portable for different
    computers, so it should be available on actual ATARI computers like
    the ATARI VCS, so that developers have the opportunity to port their
    software. And ATARI VCS should be available outside the USA, indeed.

    A large part of ATARI authentic software is portable, and it should
    be proposed a way to implement it on today's ATARI computers. I'm
    thinking of mine Eureka 2.12, but I'm not the only one, of course!

    ATARIans shouldn't give up their past, and original GEM software...

    Regards,

    --
    François LE COAT
    Author of Eureka 2.12 (2D Graph Describer, 3D Modeller) https://eureka.atari.org/

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  • From Francois LE COAT@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 5 16:30:08 2024
    Hi,

    Darklord writes:
    Francois LE COAT wrote...
    We know diverse ATARI clones since 1996. I have one, and we all know
    the the power of these computers. The big thing would be that the
    ATARI firm released another computer now, 40 years later. It should
    be partially compatible so that developers have the opportunity to
    port GEM software.

    Don't you think so?

    Yes, I think it would be a bit crazy to start over from scratch. There's
    a decent size software library for the ST and it would be a shame for any
    one to just turn their back on it.  :)

    GEM (Graphic Environment Manager) is existing for several platforms
    thanks to Digital Research (DR). We know it for ATARI ST, that means
    for Motorola 68k processors family. But it also exists for PC, that
    means for x86 processors. GEM is already portable for different
    computers, so it should be available on actual ATARI computers like
    the ATARI VCS, so that developers have the opportunity to port their software. And ATARI VCS should be available outside the USA, indeed.

    A large part of ATARI authentic software is portable, and it should
    be proposed a way to implement it on today's ATARI computers. I'm
    thinking of mine Eureka 2.12, but I'm not the only one, of course!

    ATARIans shouldn't give up their past, and original GEM software...

    Nolan Bushnell is telling those words in a recent interview to CHM:

    <https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxfw-WXCy5wU3ryK0dBVyyouLZ4bPpNgEe?si=BP5q5qUIu3vCShdL>

    to younger person "Try... Don't give up...". These words are not mine.

    Regards,

    --
    François LE COAT
    Author of Eureka 2.12 (2D Graph Describer, 3D Modeller) https://eureka.atari.org/

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  • From Darklord@21:3/171 to Francois LE COAT on Mon Dec 9 20:00:10 2024
    On 05 Dec 24 16:30:08 Francois LE COAT wrote...

    be proposed a way to implement it on today's ATARI computers. I'm thinking of mine Eureka 2.12, but I'm not the only one, of course!

    ATARIans shouldn't give up their past, and original GEM software...

    Nolan Bushnell is telling those words in a recent interview to CHM:

    <https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxfw-WXCy5wU3ryK0dBVyyouLZ4bPpNgEe?si=BP5q5 qUIu3vCSh


    to younger person "Try... Don't give up...". These words are not mine.

    Regards,

    -- François LE COAT Author of Eureka 2.12 (2D Graph Describer, 3D Modeller) https://eureka.atari.org/

    To which Darklord replies...

    Good for Nolan! :)


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  • From Francois LE COAT@21:1/5 to Darklord on Tue Dec 10 18:10:40 2024
    Hi,

    Darklord writes:
    Francois LE COAT wrote...
    be proposed a way to implement it on today's ATARI computers. I'm
    thinking of mine Eureka 2.12, but I'm not the only one, of course!

    ATARIans shouldn't give up their past, and original GEM software...

    Nolan Bushnell is telling those words in a recent interview to CHM:

    <https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxfw-WXCy5wU3ryK0dBVyyouLZ4bPpNgEe?si=BP5q5qUIu3vCShdL >

    to younger person "Try... Don't give up...". These words are not mine.

    Good for Nolan! :)

    Jack Tramiel is present in Computer History Museum interviews of course.
    Nolan Bushnell was never invited, though his contribution to computer prehistory is important. It's better late than never. He was working on
    applied electronics, but he wasn't really believing in occurrence of the microprocessor business, when it emerged from Intel laboratories in 1971

    It's good to listen from Nolan, after all those computer's celebrities.

    Regards,

    --
    François LE COAT
    Author of Eureka 2.12 (2D Graph Describer, 3D Modeller) https://eureka.atari.org/

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  • From Bikerbob@21:3/171 to Darklord on Sun Dec 15 12:14:14 2024
    On 04 Nov 24 18:15:10 Darklord wrote...

    On 01 Nov 24 10:40:33 Francois LE COAT wrote...

    It's a radio broadcast from Computer Cafe in January 1985. Just
    when the ATARI ST was presented at Las Vegas CES'85. I really
    hope a new computer from ATARI will be proposed to fans, forty
    years later...

    Regards,

    -- François LE COAT Author of Eureka 2.12 (2D Graph Describer,
    3D Modeller) https://eureka.atari.org/
    To which Darklord replies...

    Well, if nothing else, maybe we can hope that Wizztronics will
    release their '040 based Falcon that everyone's been talking about
    lately. I'd certainly love to see that! :)

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    To which Bikerbob replies...

    Yes DL I am following that as well. Not sure yet I will be in on it, but
    would be very cool for them if they could actually get something out
    there that would sell. They invested a lot of money in that a long time
    ago. Very cool that a bit of a retro market could maybe help them make it viable.

    Bikerbob

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  • From Darklord@21:3/171 to Francois LE COAT on Mon Dec 16 19:35:36 2024
    On 10 Dec 24 18:10:40 Francois LE COAT wrote...

    Jack Tramiel is present in Computer History Museum interviews of
    course. Nolan Bushnell was never invited, though his contribution to computer prehistory is important. It's better late than never. He was working on applied electronics, but he wasn't really believing in occurrence of the microprocessor business, when it emerged from Intel laboratories in 1971

    It's good to listen from Nolan, after all those computer's
    celebrities.

    Regards,

    -- François LE COAT Author of Eureka 2.12 (2D Graph Describer, 3D Modeller) https://eureka.atari.org/

    To which Darklord replies...

    I thoroughly enjoy watching those old interviews with some of the main
    players from the time. I also like watching when they have game
    developers as guest speakers - usually always some great content then.


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  • From Darklord@21:3/171 to Bikerbob on Mon Dec 16 19:37:42 2024
    On 15 Dec 24 12:14:14 Bikerbob wrote...

    To which Bikerbob replies...

    Yes DL I am following that as well. Not sure yet I will be in on it,
    but would be very cool for them if they could actually get something
    out there that would sell. They invested a lot of money in that a
    long time ago. Very cool that a bit of a retro market could maybe
    help them make it viable.

    Bikerbob

    To which Darklord replies...

    I'm pretty sure that if they get to the point where they are offering
    them up for sale, I'd try my best to grab one. :)



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  • From Rene Kint@21:1/5 to Francois LE COAT on Tue Jan 21 21:17:14 2025
    You should! It's fun. I use my Atari TT with Pure C and it's really fun.
    The keyboard slow me down a bit - being used to the flat keyboards of
    today's machines ;-)

    Regards,
    rene

    In article <vg5k32$1v6fb$1@paganini.bofh.team>,
    Francois LE COAT <lecoat@atari.org> wrote:

    Hi,

    Chris Ridd writes:
    Francois LE COAT wrote:
    Darklord writes:
    Thanks for the link - will watch it later. I love those old video's. :) >>
    It's a radio broadcast from Computer Cafe in January 1985. Just when
    the ATARI ST was presented at Las Vegas CES'85. I really hope a new
    computer from ATARI will be proposed to fans, forty years later...

    It was pretty short and not much more than a puff piece.

    Tramiel noted the just released 130ST and 520ST, and mentioned a "true 32-bit" workstation was coming for hopefully less than $1000, which presumably became the TT.

    Jack Tramiel was talking to people like me, I was 20, who couldn't
    afford an authentic computer like Macintosh or IBM/PC, because it
    was way too expensive for us.

    Today, if ATARI was releasing the ATARI VCS all around the world,
    and join it an authentic ATARI ST keyboard, it would be great! We
    already have joysticks C40. That would seems as 40th anniversary :-)

    I would love programming on a true ATARI computer, again...

    Regards,

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