• Dual Floppy Woes

    From Robert Chippendale@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 25 19:32:58 2025
    I recently picked up two floppy drives at $5 each, and installed them
    both into my computer, replacing the single floppy drive it had.

    Now, I'm having a very curious problem: the drives seek on boot, and
    show up properly, but whenever I try to use one of them, with any disk,
    I get a 'drive not ready' error message.

    The cables are not plugged in upside-down, and I did change the
    configuration in the BIOS setup.

    I should be very glad if someone could help me. Thanks in advance.

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    Robert Chippendale

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  • From bp@www.zefox.net@21:1/5 to Robert Chippendale on Sat Jan 25 17:59:49 2025
    Robert Chippendale <rchipp@sdf.org> wrote:
    I recently picked up two floppy drives at $5 each, and installed them
    both into my computer, replacing the single floppy drive it had.

    Now, I'm having a very curious problem: the drives seek on boot, and
    show up properly, but whenever I try to use one of them, with any disk,
    I get a 'drive not ready' error message.

    The cables are not plugged in upside-down, and I did change the
    configuration in the BIOS setup.

    I should be very glad if someone could help me. Thanks in advance.

    Do the drives work when connected individually?

    IIRC some tweak was required to distinguish drive A from drive B.
    At one point it was flipping over a few strands of ribbon cable at
    the connector. Maybe something different now....when I messed with
    stuff like that floppies were 5.25 inches wide.

    Good luck, hth

    bob prohaska

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  • From Robert Chippendale@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Sun Jan 26 17:14:43 2025
    Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 1/25/2025 2:32 AM, Robert Chippendale wrote:
    I recently picked up two floppy drives at $5 each, and installed them
    both into my computer, replacing the single floppy drive it had.

    Now, I'm having a very curious problem: the drives seek on boot, and
    show up properly, but whenever I try to use one of them, with any
    disk, I get a 'drive not ready' error message.

    The cables are not plugged in upside-down, and I did change the
    configuration in the BIOS setup.

    I should be very glad if someone could help me. Thanks in advance.

    5.25 inch or 3.5 inch ?

    Do you have a floppy connection cable with the twisted cable for the
    second drive ?

    Lynn


    Thanks for replying. They are both 3.5 inch drives, and I do have a
    cable with a twist in it.

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    R. Chippendale

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  • From someone@not.me@21:1/5 to rchipp@sdf.org on Sun Jan 26 06:06:35 2025
    On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 17:14:43 +1100, Robert Chippendale
    <rchipp@sdf.org> wrote:

    Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 1/25/2025 2:32 AM, Robert Chippendale wrote:
    I recently picked up two floppy drives at $5 each, and installed them
    both into my computer, replacing the single floppy drive it had.

    Now, I'm having a very curious problem: the drives seek on boot, and
    show up properly, but whenever I try to use one of them, with any
    disk, I get a 'drive not ready' error message.

    The cables are not plugged in upside-down, and I did change the
    configuration in the BIOS setup.

    I should be very glad if someone could help me. Thanks in advance.

    5.25 inch or 3.5 inch ?

    Do you have a floppy connection cable with the twisted cable for the
    second drive ?

    Lynn


    Thanks for replying. They are both 3.5 inch drives, and I do have a
    cable with a twist in it.

    Memory is hazy, but I seem to recall some drives had a master/slave
    jumper that if set properly would work on a cable without the twist,
    but if not set, then required the twist (or vice-versa--it's been a
    long time). My memory also thinks the drive at the end of the cable
    was the master and the one inthe middle was the slave, but again, my
    memory on this shouldn't be trusted!

    Good luck1
    --Bob

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  • From Robert Chippendale@21:1/5 to bp@www.zefox.net on Mon Jan 27 10:47:14 2025
    bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    Robert Chippendale <rchipp@sdf.org> wrote:
    I recently picked up two floppy drives at $5 each, and installed them
    both into my computer, replacing the single floppy drive it had.

    Now, I'm having a very curious problem: the drives seek on boot, and
    show up properly, but whenever I try to use one of them, with any disk,
    I get a 'drive not ready' error message.

    The cables are not plugged in upside-down, and I did change the
    configuration in the BIOS setup.

    I should be very glad if someone could help me. Thanks in advance.

    Do the drives work when connected individually?

    IIRC some tweak was required to distinguish drive A from drive B.
    At one point it was flipping over a few strands of ribbon cable at
    the connector. Maybe something different now....when I messed with
    stuff like that floppies were 5.25 inches wide.

    Good luck, hth

    bob prohaska


    Thanks for replying. I shall check this the next time I have occasion to
    open the machine.

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    R. Chippendale

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  • From Jeff Jonas@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 31 01:31:08 2025
    I recently picked up two floppy drives at $5 each, and installed them
    both into my computer, replacing the single floppy drive it had.

    Now, I'm having a very curious problem: the drives seek on boot

    Do they seek one at a time, or both together?
    [should be one at a time: A then B]

    Is the twist for 10-16? https://superuser.com/questions/849079/what-is-the-little-twist-in-this-floppy-ribbon-cable-for

    If the twist is conductors 25 through 29 then it's a hard drive (St506/mfm) cable
    https://allpinouts.org/pinouts/connectors/data_storage/st506-412-mfm-rll/
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