• Trouble doing Mac-to-Mac FaceTime

    From Connor Shannon@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 8 13:23:59 2024
    I have a friend I like to do FaceTime with pretty often. We've been
    having lots of trouble getting connections between our Macs, FT keeps
    trying to use our iPhones. Like I'll call him in the FT app on my
    MacBook and it says "Using iPhone," so I end the call and try again. Or
    I start a FT and it starts from my Mac but then my friend's iPhone
    alerts him instead of his iMac.

    Somehow we always finally end up on the Macs but does any body know how
    we can do that right away and keep the iPhones from being used on either
    end?

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Connor Shannon on Mon Sep 9 14:49:30 2024
    On 2024-09-08, Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:
    I have a friend I like to do FaceTime with pretty often. We've been
    having lots of trouble getting connections between our Macs, FT keeps
    trying to use our iPhones. Like I'll call him in the FT app on my
    MacBook and it says "Using iPhone," so I end the call and try again.
    Or I start a FT and it starts from my Mac but then my friend's iPhone
    alerts him instead of his iMac.

    Somehow we always finally end up on the Macs but does any body know
    how we can do that right away and keep the iPhones from being used on
    either end?

    When someone calls you on FaceTime, all of your devices will alert you o
    the call and you can answer the call on whichever device you want. Just
    because your friend sees/hears the call ring on one device doesn't mean
    they have to answer it on that device.

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  • From Connor Shannon@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Tue Sep 10 15:50:38 2024
    On 9/9/24 7:49 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-09-08, Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:
    I have a friend I like to do FaceTime with pretty often. We've been
    having lots of trouble getting connections between our Macs, FT keeps
    trying to use our iPhones. Like I'll call him in the FT app on my
    MacBook and it says "Using iPhone," so I end the call and try again.
    Or I start a FT and it starts from my Mac but then my friend's iPhone
    alerts him instead of his iMac.

    Somehow we always finally end up on the Macs but does any body know
    how we can do that right away and keep the iPhones from being used on
    either end?

    When someone calls you on FaceTime, all of your devices will alert you o
    the call and you can answer the call on whichever device you want. Just because your friend sees/hears the call ring on one device doesn't mean
    they have to answer it on that device.


    Hmmm, we'll check again but I'm pretty sure only the iPhone has been
    rining and there hasn't been anything to answer on the Macs.

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  • From Bernd Froehlich@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 11 08:47:54 2024
    On 11. Sep 2024 at 00:50:38 CEST, "Connor Shannon" <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:

    When someone calls you on FaceTime, all of your devices will alert you o
    the call and you can answer the call on whichever device you want. Just
    because your friend sees/hears the call ring on one device doesn't mean
    they have to answer it on that device.


    That´s the theory.



    Hmmm, we'll check again but I'm pretty sure only the iPhone has been
    rining and there hasn't been anything to answer on the Macs.

    And that´s where theory differs from reality. (I had those incidents where only one device of 3 was ringing too)

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Connor Shannon on Wed Sep 11 14:38:31 2024
    On 2024-09-10, Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On 9/9/24 7:49 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-09-08, Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:
    I have a friend I like to do FaceTime with pretty often. We've been
    having lots of trouble getting connections between our Macs, FT
    keeps trying to use our iPhones. Like I'll call him in the FT app on
    my MacBook and it says "Using iPhone," so I end the call and try
    again. Or I start a FT and it starts from my Mac but then my
    friend's iPhone alerts him instead of his iMac.

    Somehow we always finally end up on the Macs but does any body know
    how we can do that right away and keep the iPhones from being used
    on either end?

    When someone calls you on FaceTime, all of your devices will alert
    you o the call and you can answer the call on whichever device you
    want. Just because your friend sees/hears the call ring on one device
    doesn't mean they have to answer it on that device.

    Hmmm, we'll check again but I'm pretty sure only the iPhone has been
    rining and there hasn't been anything to answer on the Macs.

    You probably just didn't notice the notification on the Mac.

    Otherwise, check FaceTime settings on the Mac in question by opening the FaceTime app and choosing Settings from the FaceTime menu in the menu
    bar at the top of the screen. This goes without saying, but naturally
    the Mac must be signed into the same iCloud account as the iPhone for
    you to receive FaceTime calls there.

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  • From Connor Shannon@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Sep 14 14:24:31 2024
    On 9/11/24 7:38 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-09-10, Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On 9/9/24 7:49 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-09-08, Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:
    I have a friend I like to do FaceTime with pretty often. We've been
    having lots of trouble getting connections between our Macs, FT
    keeps trying to use our iPhones. Like I'll call him in the FT app on
    my MacBook and it says "Using iPhone," so I end the call and try
    again. Or I start a FT and it starts from my Mac but then my
    friend's iPhone alerts him instead of his iMac.

    Somehow we always finally end up on the Macs but does any body know
    how we can do that right away and keep the iPhones from being used
    on either end?

    When someone calls you on FaceTime, all of your devices will alert
    you o the call and you can answer the call on whichever device you
    want. Just because your friend sees/hears the call ring on one device
    doesn't mean they have to answer it on that device.

    Hmmm, we'll check again but I'm pretty sure only the iPhone has been
    rining and there hasn't been anything to answer on the Macs.

    You probably just didn't notice the notification on the Mac.

    We were sitting right in front of our Macs with FT open waiting for the
    call!!

    Otherwise, check FaceTime settings on the Mac in question by opening the FaceTime app and choosing Settings from the FaceTime menu in the menu
    bar at the top of the screen.

    Okay what do I do with the settings? Turn off the phone number so I can
    only be called with my email address? Turn off Calls from iPhone? Some
    other setting to force calls to the Mac?


    This goes without saying, but naturally
    the Mac must be signed into the same iCloud account as the iPhone for
    you to receive FaceTime calls there.

    Well it must be b'cuz I'm signed in for other Apple things and also
    eventually we get a Mac to Mac connection just a lot of times not on the
    first try.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Connor Shannon on Sun Sep 15 07:07:08 2024
    On 14.09.24 23:24, Connor Shannon wrote:
    Okay what do I do with the settings? Turn off the phone number so I can
    only be called with my email address? Turn off Calls from iPhone? Some
    other setting to force calls to the Mac?

    Open FT. Menu Face Time - Settings - Deactivate "Calls from iPhone" (i
    have a German UI. Might differ slightly).

    HTH, Jörg


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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Connor Shannon on Sun Sep 15 06:58:06 2024
    On 14.09.24 23:24, Connor Shannon wrote:
    Okay what do I do with the settings? Turn off the phone number so I can
    only be called with my email address? Turn off Calls from iPhone? Some
    other setting to force calls to the Mac?

    Correct. That is the way to go.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Connor Shannon on Sun Sep 15 16:52:26 2024
    On 2024-09-14, Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On 9/11/24 7:38 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-09-10, Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On 9/9/24 7:49 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-09-08, Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:
    I have a friend I like to do FaceTime with pretty often. We've
    been having lots of trouble getting connections between our Macs,
    FT keeps trying to use our iPhones. Like I'll call him in the FT
    app on my MacBook and it says "Using iPhone," so I end the call
    and try again. Or I start a FT and it starts from my Mac but then
    my friend's iPhone alerts him instead of his iMac.

    Somehow we always finally end up on the Macs but does any body
    know how we can do that right away and keep the iPhones from being
    used on either end?

    When someone calls you on FaceTime, all of your devices will alert
    you o the call and you can answer the call on whichever device you
    want. Just because your friend sees/hears the call ring on one
    device doesn't mean they have to answer it on that device.

    Hmmm, we'll check again but I'm pretty sure only the iPhone has been
    rining and there hasn't been anything to answer on the Macs.

    You probably just didn't notice the notification on the Mac.

    We were sitting right in front of our Macs with FT open waiting for
    the call!!

    Otherwise, check FaceTime settings on the Mac in question by opening
    the FaceTime app and choosing Settings from the FaceTime menu in the
    menu bar at the top of the screen.

    Okay what do I do with the settings? Turn off the phone number so I
    can only be called with my email address? Turn off Calls from iPhone?
    Some other setting to force calls to the Mac?

    The "You can be reached for FaceTime at" section should have all of the
    ways you want to be reached by someone calling you with FaceTime. If you disable the phone number in that section, you will prevent people from
    being able to reach you on this device with your phone number. Same
    thing goes for the email address(es) listed there. If you have some
    options disabled there, and your friend called you at one of the
    disabled addresses, that would explain you not seeing the call come in
    on your Mac.

    The "Call From iPhone" setting allows you to place and receive calls on
    your Mac through your iPhone whenever your iPhone is within range of the
    same WiFi network to which your Mac is connected. I have had this
    enabled for many years and receive and make calls on my Macs without
    issue. I can't think of a reason you should disable this.

    The "Start new calls from" setting tells FaceTime to always start new
    outgoing calls on your Mac from the phone number or email address you
    specify. Recipients will see calls coming from that phone number or
    address.

    This goes without saying, but naturally the Mac must be signed into
    the same iCloud account as the iPhone for you to receive FaceTime
    calls there.

    Well it must be b'cuz I'm signed in for other Apple things and also eventually we get a Mac to Mac connection just a lot of times not on
    the first try.

    Is it possible the Mac in question has spotty internet connectivity?
    That would also explain the symptom you are describing.

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  • From Bernd Froehlich@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 16 06:41:31 2024
    On 14. Sep 2024 at 23:24:31 CEST, "Connor Shannon" <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:

    You probably just didn't notice the notification on the Mac.

    We were sitting right in front of our Macs with FT open waiting for the call!!

    Same here just last friday.
    iPhone and iPad where ringing, MacbookAir wasn´t (while beeing locked into
    the same facetime account).

    If there is a "magical" setting I´d sure like to know where to find it.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Bernd Froehlich on Mon Sep 16 11:04:09 2024
    On 16.09.24 08:41, Bernd Froehlich wrote:
    On 14. Sep 2024 at 23:24:31 CEST, "Connor Shannon" <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:

    You probably just didn't notice the notification on the Mac.

    We were sitting right in front of our Macs with FT open waiting for the
    call!!

    Same here just last friday.
    iPhone and iPad where ringing, MacbookAir wasn´t (while beeing locked into the same facetime account).

    If there is a "magical" setting I´d sure like to know where to find it.

    Works here perfectly. Tested 10 seconds ago.
    All devices have to be logged in the same Wifi and the same iCloud
    account. In addition everything has to be activated on FT on the Mac. FT
    as standard application for calls.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Bernd Froehlich on Mon Sep 16 15:03:15 2024
    On 2024-09-16, Bernd Froehlich <befr@eaglesoft.de> wrote:
    On 14. Sep 2024 at 23:24:31 CEST, "Connor Shannon" <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:

    You probably just didn't notice the notification on the Mac.

    We were sitting right in front of our Macs with FT open waiting for
    the call!!

    Same here just last friday. iPhone and iPad where ringing, MacbookAir wasn´t (while beeing locked into the same facetime account).

    If there is a "magical" setting I´d sure like to know where to find
    it.

    What you are both describing isn't normal.

    Which model Mac and what version OS is running on it?

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Bernd Froehlich on Wed Sep 18 17:00:46 2024
    On 11.09.24 10:47, Bernd Froehlich wrote:
    On 11. Sep 2024 at 00:50:38 CEST, "Connor Shannon" <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:

    When someone calls you on FaceTime, all of your devices will alert you o >>> the call and you can answer the call on whichever device you want. Just
    because your friend sees/hears the call ring on one device doesn't mean
    they have to answer it on that device.


    That´s the theory.



    Hmmm, we'll check again but I'm pretty sure only the iPhone has been
    rining and there hasn't been anything to answer on the Macs.

    And that´s where theory differs from reality. (I had those incidents where only one device of 3 was ringing too)

    Do you allow incoming connections for FT in the Mac firewall?

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  • From Connor Shannon@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Thu Sep 19 11:05:18 2024
    On 9/16/24 8:03 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-09-16, Bernd Froehlich <befr@eaglesoft.de> wrote:
    On 14. Sep 2024 at 23:24:31 CEST, "Connor Shannon" <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> >> wrote:

    You probably just didn't notice the notification on the Mac.

    We were sitting right in front of our Macs with FT open waiting for
    the call!!

    Same here just last friday. iPhone and iPad where ringing, MacbookAir
    wasn´t (while beeing locked into the same facetime account).

    If there is a "magical" setting I´d sure like to know where to find
    it.

    What you are both describing isn't normal.

    Which model Mac and what version OS is running on it?


    Mine is a MacBook Air I just got it last year or maybe late 2022. It has Sonoma, I just got the notice about Seqoia but I haven't updated it yet.

    I turned off my iPhone phone number in FT on the MacBook, my friend and
    I will be doing FT this weekend so we'll see if that helps.

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  • From Bernd Froehlich@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 20 06:29:22 2024
    On 19. Sep 2024 at 20:05:18 CEST, "Connor Shannon" <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:

    Mine is a MacBook Air I just got it last year or maybe late 2022. It has Sonoma, I just got the notice about Seqoia but I haven't updated it yet.

    2022 MacBook Air (M2) here also.
    Just updated to Sequoia.

    Can´t imagine that it is a MacBook Air problem, but who knows...

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  • From Bernd Froehlich@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 20 14:21:34 2024
    On 20. Sep 2024 at 08:29:22 CEST, "Bernd Froehlich" <befr@eaglesoft.de>
    wrote:

    Can´t imagine that it is a MacBook Air problem, but who knows...

    Spent some hours on the net and finally solved it.

    Two tips I found were to clear the DNS cache of the mac and to connect the
    Mac through a hotspot to the internet.
    Lo and behold: Facetime worked, I got the call on my Mac 8-)
    Then I reset my router and now Facetime works just fine.

    Not sure whether it was the DNS cache or the router reset that ultimately solved it but I hope it works for you too Connor.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Bernd Froehlich on Fri Sep 20 16:34:11 2024
    On 2024-09-20, Bernd Froehlich <befr@eaglesoft.de> wrote:
    On 20. Sep 2024 at 08:29:22 CEST, "Bernd Froehlich" <befr@eaglesoft.de> wrote:

    Can´t imagine that it is a MacBook Air problem, but who knows...

    Spent some hours on the net and finally solved it.

    Two tips I found were to clear the DNS cache of the mac and to connect the Mac through a hotspot to the internet.
    Lo and behold: Facetime worked, I got the call on my Mac 8-)
    Then I reset my router and now Facetime works just fine.

    Not sure whether it was the DNS cache or the router reset that ultimately solved it but I hope it works for you too Connor.

    What make and model router?

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  • From Bernd Froehlich@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 21 08:49:57 2024
    On 20. Sep 2024 at 18:34:11 CEST, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com>
    wrote:

    What make and model router?

    Fritzbox 7590. (Widely used in Germany but I guess not in the rest of the world).

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  • From Connor Shannon@21:1/5 to Bernd Froehlich on Sat Sep 21 11:42:23 2024
    On 9/20/24 7:21 AM, Bernd Froehlich wrote:
    On 20. Sep 2024 at 08:29:22 CEST, "Bernd Froehlich" <befr@eaglesoft.de> wrote:

    Can´t imagine that it is a MacBook Air problem, but who knows...

    Spent some hours on the net and finally solved it.

    Two tips I found were to clear the DNS cache of the mac and to connect the Mac through a hotspot to the internet.
    Lo and behold: Facetime worked, I got the call on my Mac 8-)
    Then I reset my router and now Facetime works just fine.

    Not sure whether it was the DNS cache or the router reset that ultimately solved it but I hope it works for you too Connor.

    Gosh I don't want to go through my phone instead of my wifi. But I'm
    glad it worked for you!

    We just tried again. My phone was near my MacBook and it "rang" with the
    FT call. I had phone number FT turned off on my MacBook like you guys
    suggested but my name with my phone number was still in his FT call list
    so I think when he clicked on it it called my phone number. I didn't
    answer and sent my friend a text message (from my Mac) asking if he
    could "call" my email address. So then he clicked New Facetime Call on
    his Mac and typed in my email and it rang on my MacBook. (Also on my
    phone but I ignored that.)

    So I think the key is to force the computers to use email addresses but
    since the FT previous call list includes phone calls it's easy for a
    friend's phone number to be in the list and you have to make sure you
    aren't using that. Anyway thats what I think is happening.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Connor Shannon on Sat Sep 21 22:51:30 2024
    On 21.09.24 20:42, Connor Shannon wrote:
    We just tried again. My phone was near my MacBook and it "rang" with the
    FT call. I had phone number FT turned off on my MacBook like you guys suggested but my name with my phone number was still in his FT call list
    so I think when he clicked on it it called my phone number. I didn't
    answer and sent my friend a text message (from my Mac) asking if he
    could "call" my email address. So then he clicked New Facetime Call on
    his Mac and typed in my email and it rang on my MacBook. (Also on my
    phone but I ignored that.)

    So I think the key is to force the computers to use email addresses but
    since the FT previous call list includes phone calls it's easy for a
    friend's phone number to be in the list and you have to make sure you
    aren't using that. Anyway thats what I think is happening.

    Here FT does not care. It always rings on my Mac.


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  • From Bernd Froehlich@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 22 12:55:43 2024
    On 21. Sep 2024 at 20:42:23 CEST, "Connor Shannon" <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:

    Gosh I don't want to go through my phone instead of my wifi. But I'm
    glad it worked for you!

    That was only for a quick test to make sure that the problem is indeed the router.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Connor Shannon on Sun Sep 22 16:55:55 2024
    On 2024-09-21, Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On 9/20/24 7:21 AM, Bernd Froehlich wrote:
    On 20. Sep 2024 at 08:29:22 CEST, "Bernd Froehlich" <befr@eaglesoft.de>
    wrote:

    Can´t imagine that it is a MacBook Air problem, but who knows...

    Spent some hours on the net and finally solved it.

    Two tips I found were to clear the DNS cache of the mac and to
    connect the Mac through a hotspot to the internet. Lo and behold:
    Facetime worked, I got the call on my Mac 8-) Then I reset my router
    and now Facetime works just fine.

    Not sure whether it was the DNS cache or the router reset that
    ultimately solved it but I hope it works for you too Connor.

    Gosh I don't want to go through my phone instead of my wifi. But I'm
    glad it worked for you!

    You should read more carefully. He doesn't seem to be saying he had to
    connect to the hotspot to get it to work - that was just one of the
    suggestions he read. He does say he cleared his DNS cache and reset his
    router.

    Have you tried either of those things?

    We just tried again. My phone was near my MacBook and it "rang" with
    the FT call. I had phone number FT turned off on my MacBook like you
    guys suggested

    That was a bad suggestion. Turn it back on.

    but my name with my phone number was still in his FT call list so I
    think when he clicked on it it called my phone number. I didn't answer
    and sent my friend a text message (from my Mac) asking if he could
    "call" my email address. So then he clicked New Facetime Call on his
    Mac and typed in my email and it rang on my MacBook. (Also on my phone
    but I ignored that.)

    That's precisely why you should turn the phone number back on on your
    Mac. Whoever suggested you turn it off was giving bad advice.

    So I think the key is to force the computers to use email addresses
    but

    No. Many of us receive calls to our cellular phone numbers on our Macs.
    That's how it's supposed to work.

    since the FT previous call list includes phone calls it's easy for a
    friend's phone number to be in the list and you have to make sure you
    aren't using that. Anyway thats what I think is happening.

    No, you should be able to use any address or number listed in FaceTime Preferences > You can be reached at - including your iPhone's phone
    number. The problem you are having isn't due to FaceTime settings.
    Something else (probably your router) is getting in the way.

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