• Re: "Fallout 2"... in 3D

    From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Mon Apr 8 07:56:11 2024
    On 4/7/2024 10:16 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    I suppose it was only a matter of time.

    But "Fallout 2" is getting an (unofficial) make-over, being ported en
    toto to the "Fallout 4" engine, in Project Aryo.
    (see the trailer here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwJlcesILvY)

    Someone already tried (and failed as far as I can tell) to do the same
    thing with the Fallout 3 engine.

    Sure I'll give it a try if it ever comes to fruition.

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  • From Werner P.@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 8 17:32:13 2024
    Am 08.04.24 um 16:56 schrieb Justisaur:
    On 4/7/2024 10:16 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    I suppose it was only a matter of time.

    But "Fallout 2" is getting an (unofficial) make-over, being ported en
    toto to the "Fallout 4" engine, in Project Aryo.
    (see the trailer here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwJlcesILvY)

    Someone already tried (and failed as far as I can tell) to do the same
    thing with the Fallout 3 engine.

    Sure I'll give it a try if it ever comes to fruition.

    I rather doubt they can pull this off, but lets wait and see.

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  • From rms@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 8 15:41:08 2024
    I rather doubt they can pull this off, but lets wait and see.

    Related: The as-yet unreleased Fallout tv show has a second season
    coming! Guess they are confident https://kotaku.com/fallout-amazon-tv-show-season-2-confirmed-release-date-1851395200

    rms

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to rms on Mon Apr 8 17:52:20 2024
    On 4/8/2024 2:41 PM, rms wrote:
    I rather doubt they can pull this off, but lets wait and see.

      Related:  The as-yet unreleased Fallout tv show has a second season coming!  Guess they are confident https://kotaku.com/fallout-amazon-tv-show-season-2-confirmed-release-date-1851395200

    Its easy to be confident enough to greenlight a second season of only 6
    to 8 episodes.

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to rms on Tue Apr 9 06:55:17 2024
    On 4/8/2024 2:41 PM, rms wrote:
    I rather doubt they can pull this off, but lets wait and see.

      Related:  The as-yet unreleased Fallout tv show has a second season coming!  Guess they are confident https://kotaku.com/fallout-amazon-tv-show-season-2-confirmed-release-date-1851395200


    That's surprising. I haven't heard anything good so far, just the usual internet picking apart and complaining about what little has been released.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Tue Apr 9 17:57:56 2024
    On 4/9/2024 7:43 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 06:55:17 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 4/8/2024 2:41 PM, rms wrote:
    I rather doubt they can pull this off, but lets wait and see.

      Related:  The as-yet unreleased Fallout tv show has a second season >>> coming!  Guess they are confident
    https://kotaku.com/fallout-amazon-tv-show-season-2-confirmed-release-date-1851395200


    That's surprising. I haven't heard anything good so far, just the usual
    internet picking apart and complaining about what little has been released.

    I'm not really sure who the show really is for. Diehard fans of the
    game are going to hate it, just because it will inevitably stray from
    the source material. ("How can you watch it? They said the Great War
    started in 2243 when everybody knows it started in 2047!")*.
    Casual fans aren't going to rush to watch the TV show just because of
    the association. And Post-apocalyptics as a genre aren't really that
    popular on TV in general (not to mention they tend to be more
    expensive to make). Recent game-to-tv conversions haven't been
    spectacular either; at best, they've been bearable TV, the sort of
    thing you watch just because there's nothing better on.

    Fallout especially lacks draw because it doesn't have any compelling characters of situations; it's mostly got its setting, and that's it.
    That's great if you're making an open-world sandbox game of the sort
    Bethesda is famous for, but it lacks the draw of "Master Chief" that
    makes people want to watch "Halo".











    * years pulled out of my ass because I'm too lazy to go check the wiki
    for something so trivial ;-)

    That's still more effort than many TV executives will exert or allow
    their writers to exert.

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  • From Ross Ridge@21:1/5 to justisaur@yahoo.com on Wed Apr 10 16:30:11 2024
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    That's surprising. I haven't heard anything good so far, just the usual >internet picking apart and complaining about what little has been released.

    Nitpickers will nitpick, but the couple of reviews I seen make it sound
    pretty good to me:

    https://www.pcgamer.com/movies-tv/fallout-tv-show-review-the-best-fallout-anything-since-fallout-new-vegas/
    https://variety.com/2024/tv/reviews/fallout-tv-series-review-prime-video-1235964070/

    Based on those reviews, if you're a fan of Fallout, but not someone who
    obseses about cannon, it's a series that recreates the feel of the games
    as well as a TV series could, and if you've never played any of the games
    it's still enjoyable for the unique Fallout sense of style and action.

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Ross Ridge on Wed Apr 10 11:03:03 2024
    On 4/10/2024 9:30 AM, Ross Ridge wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    That's surprising. I haven't heard anything good so far, just the usual
    internet picking apart and complaining about what little has been released.

    Nitpickers will nitpick, but the couple of reviews I seen make it sound pretty good to me:

    https://www.pcgamer.com/movies-tv/fallout-tv-show-review-the-best-fallout-anything-since-fallout-new-vegas/
    https://variety.com/2024/tv/reviews/fallout-tv-series-review-prime-video-1235964070/

    Based on those reviews, if you're a fan of Fallout, but not someone who obseses about cannon, it's a series that recreates the feel of the games
    as well as a TV series could, and if you've never played any of the games it's still enjoyable for the unique Fallout sense of style and action.


    That *sounds* good. Only problem is those are both once paper now
    electronic magazines, which are highly suspect. I'm sure I'll watch at
    least the first episode anyway since I've got Prime.

    I'll keep my expectations very low, and maybe I'll be surprised.

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  • From Ross Ridge@21:1/5 to justisaur@yahoo.com on Wed Apr 10 20:38:38 2024
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    That *sounds* good. Only problem is those are both once paper now
    electronic magazines, which are highly suspect. I'm sure I'll watch at
    least the first episode anyway since I've got Prime.

    I'm not following your logic there, but if it helps any both PC Gamer
    and Variety still publish print editions.

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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 11 03:04:26 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 06:55:17 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 4/8/2024 2:41 PM, rms wrote:
    I rather doubt they can pull this off, but lets wait and see.

      Related:  The as-yet unreleased Fallout tv show has a second season
    coming!  Guess they are confident
    https://kotaku.com/fallout-amazon-tv-show-season-2-confirmed-release-date-1851395200


    That's surprising. I haven't heard anything good so far, just the usual >>internet picking apart and complaining about what little has been released.

    I'm not really sure who the show really is for. Diehard fans of the
    game are going to hate it, just because it will inevitably stray from
    the source material. ("How can you watch it? They said the Great War
    started in 2243 when everybody knows it started in 2047!")*.
    Casual fans aren't going to rush to watch the TV show just because of
    the association. And Post-apocalyptics as a genre aren't really that
    popular on TV in general (not to mention they tend to be more
    expensive to make). Recent game-to-tv conversions haven't been
    spectacular either; at best, they've been bearable TV, the sort of
    thing you watch just because there's nothing better on.

    Expensive yes, but post apocs have been very popular in recent years;
    The Walking Dead, and spin offs, Last of Us.

    They wouldn't even think about making Fallout into a TV show if they
    weren't fairly sure it would have an audience.

    Media producers and risk are rarely in the same time zone, which is why
    we have so many remakes and reboots and continuations.

    Fallout especially lacks draw because it doesn't have any compelling >characters of situations; it's mostly got its setting, and that's it.

    Ahh but that gives you the freedom to make any characters you like,
    instead of being stuck in the straight-jacket of pre-defined game
    characters your actors will never, ever be a match for, leading to
    endless whining from the game fans (see the whining when Tom Cruise was
    cast as Lestat, or Heath Ledger as The Joker.)

    Xocyll

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Ross Ridge on Thu Apr 11 06:30:56 2024
    On 4/10/2024 1:38 PM, Ross Ridge wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    That *sounds* good. Only problem is those are both once paper now
    electronic magazines, which are highly suspect. I'm sure I'll watch at
    least the first episode anyway since I've got Prime.

    I'm not following your logic there, but if it helps any both PC Gamer
    and Variety still publish print editions.

    There's been a lot of under the table pay for good reviews to magazines
    turned electronic by marketing especially of games.

    I watched the first episode last night, pretty good. Though I don't
    understand why the BoS aren't perusing their internal problem much
    harder with punishments all around.

    The only other issue I had is was the constant use of the "doom bass"*,
    which my wife complained was hurting her ears.

    * Doom Bass. I don't know what that sound is actually called, but it's
    a low rising and falling bass which was far too overused in the show,
    and has been rising in frequency over the last decade or so.

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