...Is what I'd say if I had any idea who Dr. Disrespect is. Apparently
he's some kind of streamer whose primary focus is on video games.
Beyond that, I've no idea what his(?) persona is like, or what has
gotten him in trouble. I don't really care enough to find out either.
I don't really have a problem with streamers. I've even been known to
watch a few. In general I find the format uninteresting --it's usually
too focused on the personality of the presenter than the content being presented-- but there are some streams that aren't like that, and on occassion the personality in question isn't TOO offensive. Overall I
prefer better edited, less obnoxious video content (which usually
means it isn't being streamed live) but I'm not totally oblivious to
the appeal of the format.
But streaming is a major force in the gaming industry these days, with millions of people following their favorite personalities. Apparently
Dr Disrespect was one of these? It provides a huge percentage of how
these watchers get their video-gaming (and other) news, and consumes a
not insignificant chunk of some of their gaming-related expenditures.
But my being outside this ecosystem, well... news like the Dr.
Disrespect thing not only makes me feel out of touch, but actually old
in a way I really have never experienced before. Like the hobby in
which I've invested so many years of my life is slowly slipping away
from me.
But then I try and watch some of these personalities, and decide maybe
that's for the best. But my lack of investment in this area of gaming
means my preferences -for novel games, for games with strong
single-player experiences, for games not infested with MTX- are less
likely to be listened to. I'm /not/ the primary audience anymore.
People who watch streamers like Dr. Disrespect are.
And again, I'm not really writing this to bash on Dr Disrepect (I
don't know anything about him; maybe I'd even like his show if I
watched it. I just don't know!) or even streaming in general. Sure, it usually seems shallow and loud to me, but I'd be the first to admit
it's not ALWAYS like that and sometimes it's even worthwhile to watch.
But for the first time, I'm really jivin' with the "Am I so out of
touch? No, it's the children who are wrong" meme more than ever
before.
But for the first time, I'm really jivin' with the "Am I so out ofDid not follow this guy, neither do I follow any streamer, but for what
touch? No, it's the children who are wrong" meme more than ever
before.
...Is what I'd say if I had any idea who Dr. Disrespect is. Apparently
he's some kind of streamer whose primary focus is on video games.
Beyond that, I've no idea what his(?) persona is like, or what has
gotten him in trouble. I don't really care enough to find out either.
But my being outside this ecosystem, well... news like the Dr.
Disrespect thing not only makes me feel out of touch, but actually old
in a way I really have never experienced before. Like the hobby in
which I've invested so many years of my life is slowly slipping away
from me.
...Is what I'd say if I had any idea who Dr. Disrespect is. Apparently
he's some kind of streamer whose primary focus is on video games.
Beyond that, I've no idea what his(?) persona is like, or what has
gotten him in trouble. I don't really care enough to find out either.
I don't really have a problem with streamers. I've even been known to
watch a few. In general I find the format uninteresting --it's usually
too focused on the personality of the presenter than the content being presented-- but there are some streams that aren't like that, and on occassion the personality in question isn't TOO offensive. Overall I
prefer better edited, less obnoxious video content (which usually
means it isn't being streamed live) but I'm not totally oblivious to
the appeal of the format.
But streaming is a major force in the gaming industry these days, with millions of people following their favorite personalities. Apparently
Dr Disrespect was one of these? It provides a huge percentage of how
these watchers get their video-gaming (and other) news, and consumes a
not insignificant chunk of some of their gaming-related expenditures.
But my being outside this ecosystem, well... news like the Dr.
Disrespect thing not only makes me feel out of touch, but actually old
in a way I really have never experienced before. Like the hobby in
which I've invested so many years of my life is slowly slipping away
from me.
But then I try and watch some of these personalities, and decide maybe
that's for the best. But my lack of investment in this area of gaming
means my preferences -for novel games, for games with strong
single-player experiences, for games not infested with MTX- are less
likely to be listened to. I'm /not/ the primary audience anymore.
People who watch streamers like Dr. Disrespect are.
And again, I'm not really writing this to bash on Dr Disrepect (I
don't know anything about him; maybe I'd even like his show if I
watched it. I just don't know!) or even streaming in general. Sure, it usually seems shallow and loud to me, but I'd be the first to admit
it's not ALWAYS like that and sometimes it's even worthwhile to watch.
But for the first time, I'm really jivin' with the "Am I so out of
touch? No, it's the children who are wrong" meme more than ever
before.
Am 30.06.24 um 03:21 schrieb Spalls Hurgenson:
But for the first time, I'm really jivin' with the "Am I so out ofDid not follow this guy, neither do I follow any streamer, but for what
touch? No, it's the children who are wrong" meme more than ever
before.
I got from the comments, this guy was seriously trans and gay phobic basically blaming trans people for being child molesters and in the end
he got axed by sexting with minors. Speaking of Karma, nothing lost that
this guy is off the table and now has to do serious work, besides that
he might face legal problems as well for it!
On 6/30/2024 2:39 AM, Werner P. wrote:
Am 30.06.24 um 03:21 schrieb Spalls Hurgenson:
But for the first time, I'm really jivin' with the "Am I so out ofDid not follow this guy, neither do I follow any streamer, but for
touch? No, it's the children who are wrong" meme more than ever
before.
what I got from the comments, this guy was seriously trans and gay phobic
basically blaming trans people for being child molesters and in the
end he got axed by sexting with minors. Speaking of Karma, nothing
lost that this guy is off the table and now has to do serious work,
besides that he might face legal problems as well for it!
It'd be good if people like this were in jail, not just 'demonitized'.
As for streaming, I tried it when I was playing Warframe, but only
because the company behind Warframe was giving away in game stuff if you watched someone's stream during a certain promotion. It was o.k. but
not for me, I much prefer the edited stuff on youtube. I enjoy a number
of souls plays there, and have watched many a walkthrough, Fighting
Cowboy is particularly good for Bloodborne and some of the other souls games. I also sometimes watch the PVP stuff, which tends to be much
more entertaining when you aren't on the receiving end. That tends
towards shorts which is good when I don't have enough time to actually
play or I'm tired of dying and need a break.
In the world of RPG's you do get quite a few live session videos but
frankly must of them are just completely amateur as you may expect
because, well they are amateurs. I'm sure they're enjoying playing but
that's as far as it goes. The you have the professional part with
Critical Role being the biggy. I've watched the odd episode and yeah
it's ok but I wouldn't go out of my way to watch it. The downside,
players who expect their own table to be like that and also GM's who use
it as a metric for though own performance. You not going to be able to compete with a group of people who are talented, can invest a lot of
time and also have a team behind them.
I've never really understood what people get out of watching other
people just play games in general. I do watch some videos on YouTube but
that tends to be either informative or a cherry picked situation that
can be considered mildly entertaining. The best combination, informative
and entraining wit it.
On 30/06/2024 16:23, Justisaur wrote:
On 6/30/2024 2:39 AM, Werner P. wrote:
Am 30.06.24 um 03:21 schrieb Spalls Hurgenson:
But for the first time, I'm really jivin' with the "Am I so out ofDid not follow this guy, neither do I follow any streamer, but for
touch? No, it's the children who are wrong" meme more than ever
before.
what I got from the comments, this guy was seriously trans and gay
phobic
basically blaming trans people for being child molesters and in the
end he got axed by sexting with minors. Speaking of Karma, nothing
lost that this guy is off the table and now has to do serious work,
besides that he might face legal problems as well for it!
It'd be good if people like this were in jail, not just 'demonitized'.
As for streaming, I tried it when I was playing Warframe, but only
because the company behind Warframe was giving away in game stuff if
you watched someone's stream during a certain promotion. It was o.k.
but not for me, I much prefer the edited stuff on youtube. I enjoy a
number of souls plays there, and have watched many a walkthrough,
Fighting Cowboy is particularly good for Bloodborne and some of the
other souls games. I also sometimes watch the PVP stuff, which tends
to be much more entertaining when you aren't on the receiving end.
That tends towards shorts which is good when I don't have enough time
to actually play or I'm tired of dying and need a break.
I've never really understood what people get out of watching other
people just play games in general.
On 7/3/2024 1:38 AM, JAB wrote:
On 30/06/2024 16:23, Justisaur wrote:
On 6/30/2024 2:39 AM, Werner P. wrote:
Am 30.06.24 um 03:21 schrieb Spalls Hurgenson:
But for the first time, I'm really jivin' with the "Am I so out ofDid not follow this guy, neither do I follow any streamer, but for
touch? No, it's the children who are wrong" meme more than ever
before.
what I got from the comments, this guy was seriously trans and gay
phobic
basically blaming trans people for being child molesters and in the
end he got axed by sexting with minors. Speaking of Karma, nothing
lost that this guy is off the table and now has to do serious work,
besides that he might face legal problems as well for it!
It'd be good if people like this were in jail, not just 'demonitized'.
As for streaming, I tried it when I was playing Warframe, but only
because the company behind Warframe was giving away in game stuff if
you watched someone's stream during a certain promotion. It was o.k.
but not for me, I much prefer the edited stuff on youtube. I enjoy a
number of souls plays there, and have watched many a walkthrough,
Fighting Cowboy is particularly good for Bloodborne and some of the
other souls games. I also sometimes watch the PVP stuff, which tends
to be much more entertaining when you aren't on the receiving end.
That tends towards shorts which is good when I don't have enough time
to actually play or I'm tired of dying and need a break.
I've never really understood what people get out of watching other
people just play games in general.
I have trouble with the concept of pro sports too, especially the big
cities competing to get a team to move by building a brand new hugely >expensive stadium at tax payers' expense.
I have trouble with the concept of pro sports too, especially the big
cities competing to get a team to move by building a brand new hugely expensive stadium at tax payers' expense.
On 7/3/2024 1:38 AM, JAB wrote:
In the world of RPG's you do get quite a few live session videos but
frankly must of them are just completely amateur as you may expect
because, well they are amateurs. I'm sure they're enjoying playing but
that's as far as it goes. The you have the professional part with
Critical Role being the biggy. I've watched the odd episode and yeah
it's ok but I wouldn't go out of my way to watch it. The downside,
players who expect their own table to be like that and also GM's who
use it as a metric for though own performance. You not going to be
able to compete with a group of people who are talented, can invest a
lot of time and also have a team behind them.
Ugh, Critical Role. I had people online when I was trying to run say
things like "Critical Role uses milestones." Now, milestones are fine,
but I was running a dungeon crawl, which is what they signed up for, and isn't suited to using milestones instead of xp.
I tried watching the 2nd campaign as people said that was where to
start. I couldn't help but critique the DMing in my own mind. I
remember one (multiple?) episodes were spent futzing around in town
pulling sophomoric stuff like trying to steal or con a hefty discount
for certain equipment, splitting the party up, and doing their own thing
for an interminable amount of time. I left that behind decades ago. I suppose that's what passes for role-playing these days. When they
finally got to the adventure proper in something like the 5th episode,
and got to combat it was of course 5e which is slow and annoying. I'd
had enough at that point.
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:
On 7/3/2024 1:38 AM, JAB wrote:
On 30/06/2024 16:23, Justisaur wrote:
On 6/30/2024 2:39 AM, Werner P. wrote:
Am 30.06.24 um 03:21 schrieb Spalls Hurgenson:
But for the first time, I'm really jivin' with the "Am I so out of >>>>>> touch? No, it's the children who are wrong" meme more than everDid not follow this guy, neither do I follow any streamer, but for
before.
what I got from the comments, this guy was seriously trans and gay
phobic
basically blaming trans people for being child molesters and in the
end he got axed by sexting with minors. Speaking of Karma, nothing
lost that this guy is off the table and now has to do serious work,
besides that he might face legal problems as well for it!
It'd be good if people like this were in jail, not just 'demonitized'. >>>>
As for streaming, I tried it when I was playing Warframe, but only
because the company behind Warframe was giving away in game stuff if
you watched someone's stream during a certain promotion. It was o.k. >>>> but not for me, I much prefer the edited stuff on youtube. I enjoy a >>>> number of souls plays there, and have watched many a walkthrough,
Fighting Cowboy is particularly good for Bloodborne and some of the
other souls games. I also sometimes watch the PVP stuff, which tends >>>> to be much more entertaining when you aren't on the receiving end.
That tends towards shorts which is good when I don't have enough time
to actually play or I'm tired of dying and need a break.
I've never really understood what people get out of watching other
people just play games in general.
I have trouble with the concept of pro sports too, especially the big
cities competing to get a team to move by building a brand new hugely
expensive stadium at tax payers' expense.
See also the Olympics!
...but hosting the Olympics is a huge financial windfall, all those
visitors, etc.
Except the taxpayers pay 3-5x whatever financial gain will be had.
...but we'll be left with world class facilities!
That have to be maintained at taxpayer expense and are unlikely to
actually be used for years in any meaningful way that will bring money
to the city.
...but, but, but, the PRESTIGE!!!!
Don't want it, don't need it. Not at that price.
Seems like a bad deal all around.
On 7/3/2024 1:38 AM, JAB wrote:
In the world of RPG's you do get quite a few live session videos but
frankly must of them are just completely amateur as you may expect
because, well they are amateurs. I'm sure they're enjoying playing but
that's as far as it goes. The you have the professional part with
Critical Role being the biggy. I've watched the odd episode and yeah
it's ok but I wouldn't go out of my way to watch it. The downside,
players who expect their own table to be like that and also GM's who use
it as a metric for though own performance. You not going to be able to
compete with a group of people who are talented, can invest a lot of
time and also have a team behind them.
Ugh, Critical Role. I had people online when I was trying to run say
things like "Critical Role uses milestones." Now, milestones are fine,
but I was running a dungeon crawl, which is what they signed up for, and isn't suited to using milestones instead of xp.
I tried watching the 2nd campaign as people said that was where to
start. I couldn't help but critique the DMing in my own mind. I
remember one (multiple?) episodes were spent futzing around in town
pulling sophomoric stuff like trying to steal or con a hefty discount
for certain equipment, splitting the party up, and doing their own thing
for an interminable amount of time. I left that behind decades ago. I suppose that's what passes for role-playing these days. When they
finally got to the adventure proper in something like the 5th episode,
and got to combat it was of course 5e which is slow and annoying. I'd
had enough at that point.
On Wed, 3 Jul 2024 09:38:34 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
I've never really understood what people get out of watching other
people just play games in general. I do watch some videos on YouTube but >>that tends to be either informative or a cherry picked situation that
can be considered mildly entertaining. The best combination, informative >>and entraining wit it.
I like watching people play games to see what they do differently from
me. I find this especially useful and entertaining for strategy games.
I do not watch Twitch. I prefer the edited Let's Plays on Youtube. I
prefer people who are mellow in their delivery. I don't like people
with outrageous personalities. That turns me off.
| Sysop: | Keyop |
|---|---|
| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 546 |
| Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
| Uptime: | 10:31:06 |
| Calls: | 10,389 |
| Calls today: | 4 |
| Files: | 14,061 |
| Messages: | 6,416,854 |
| Posted today: | 1 |