• Re: Humble Choice for August 2024

    From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Wed Aug 7 08:58:15 2024
    On 06/08/2024 20:51, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Last month I said that the first-Tuesday-of-the-month was rapidly
    becoming my favorite day of the month, and the HumbleChoice's July
    selection made me all the more certain of that statement. But will
    August live up to that assumption? Let's see what they have for us
    this time!


    * SIFU
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2138710/Sifu/
    The one with the Kung-Fu fighting. Unleash your inner
    Bruce Lee in this stylish brawler. It's an extremely
    well-made, if somewhat limited in scope, and the only
    downside is that I'm not that much of a fan of
    brawling games. But I'm willing to give this one a
    chance; it just looks too cool to miss out on.

    Fighting games are a genre I just don't get on with since Way of the
    Exploding Fist on the Specky 48k. I have tried some in the arcades but I
    didn't get into the whole learning combo's thing. They also seem more
    suited to a two player experience.


    * High On Life
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/1583230/High_On_Life/
    The one with the talking gun. Coarse and sophomoric,
    its style belies its solid gameplay, but damn you'd
    better be able to stomach the stupid jokes and visuals.
    It's not half as funny as it thinks it is (well, unless
    you play it while high, in which case you'll probably
    have a blast). But the shootie-shoot-shoot bits are
    well done.

    Actual humour in games is pretty rare in my opinion. What is far more
    common is attempted humour that only appeals to the type of person that
    thinks knob gags are the way to go. Some games that I found at least
    amusing though are Tales From The Borderlands and Portal I/II. Not laugh
    out loud funny but more raise a smile funny and possibly a titter.

    Overall there's just something about computer games that doesn't lend
    them to the type of emotional responses that other media does, at least
    for me. The nearest I've had is the ending of Telltales The Walking
    Dead, I wasn't expecting a good ending but still.

    As an aside I did see an interesting video of why games generally don't
    do an 'evil' approach well. The short version is that most people are
    naturally good and therefore see the consequences of their actions even
    if these don't lead in in-game consequences.

    The example that they used of where it can was GTA where they really
    aren't any consequences at all. So you dragged a driver out of their car
    and stole it, they'll get over it before just disappearing from the game
    world to be replaced by another one.

    I kinda agree but one of the issues I have is that a lot of the time the
    evil approach has the consequence that you miss out of things so it's
    either do the good thing and get this quest/trinket or do the evil thing
    and don't. One that handled it better than most was Disco Elysium where
    the different paths (ever fancied playing as fascist or how about a
    communist?) you could take still lead to interesting outcomes.


    I'll admit it; these choices are challenging my 'favorite-day-
    of-the-month' theory. It hasn't overturned it entirely, though;
    although not generally my style, "Sifu" is too good to not grab, and
    "High on Life" and "Blacktail" are worth grabbing even if they aren't
    /great/ games. As I've said, one of the things I /like/ about
    HumbleChoice is how it exposes me to games I normally wouldn't
    purchase because I'd rather put my money to games more suited to my
    tastes. These curated selections make me expand my horizons, and
    that's not necessarily a bad thing. It's definitely worth the pittance
    I spend each month.


    It the same type of reason I like Amazon Prime. The games I'm mainly
    interested in are ones that I just haven't heard of but look like my
    type of game and ones they I wasn't sure if they'd be my type of game.
    The ones that generally hold no interest are the bigger hitters where
    it's a case of if I wanted to play it I would own it already.

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Wed Aug 7 09:10:40 2024
    On 8/6/2024 12:51 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Last month I said that the first-Tuesday-of-the-month was rapidly
    becoming my favorite day of the month, and the HumbleChoice's July
    selection made me all the more certain of that statement. But will
    August live up to that assumption? Let's see what they have for us
    this time!


    * SIFU
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2138710/Sifu/
    the only
    downside is that I'm not that much of a fan of
    brawling games.

    Same, not since my arcade days anyway.


    * High On Life
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/1583230/High_On_Life/
    The one with the talking gun. Coarse and sophomoric,
    its style belies its solid gameplay, but damn you'd
    better be able to stomach the stupid jokes and visuals.
    It's not half as funny as it thinks it is (well, unless
    you play it while high, in which case you'll probably
    have a blast). But the shootie-shoot-shoot bits are
    well done.

    I've been watching this one for awhile. I'm not sure but it sounds like
    the voice actor for Morty from Rick and Morty is the main character. I
    find this more distracting than if it were someone I didn't recognize
    though.

    I'm glad to hear it's got good gameplay, but I agree the 'humor' turns
    me off.

    I'm tempted on this bundle for a change just for this one.

    I'd probably pay $20 for this by itself, as I'm not sure enough. If it
    were on GoG I'd pay up to $30 as my son could play it (not sure I want
    him to though) without interfering with my steam login (I still need to
    try setting him up again now that that isn't supposed to happen unless
    you're playing the same game.)


    * Gotham Knights
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/1496790/Gotham_Knights/

    I never even finished an Arkham game, if it's worse I don't see me
    enjoying it.

    * Blacktail
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/1532690/BLACKTAIL/

    The style doesn't look particularly appealing. I might like it, but
    can't tell from the trailer. Questionable, I wouldn't buy it by itself,
    that's for sure.


    * Astral Ascent

    Meh, I just haven't been into side scrollers for quite a bit. Last one I
    really liked was probably Risk of Rain.


    * Diluvian Ultra
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/1306970/Diluvian_Ultra/
    The one with the title that makes it sound more
    impressive than it really is. It's a retro-themed
    boomer-shooter, and a fairly generic one at that. Very
    rough around the edges, with the unsatisfying weapons
    especially pulling down the rest of the game. Really,
    it's the sort of game only for die-hard fans of the
    boomer-shooter genre who have to play every possible
    iteration of those games. It's got very little for
    anyone outside that circle.

    While I'm not much of a fan there was one or two I liked within the last decade. This one looks pretty cool. I'm impressed by the trailer's
    visuals with doom like graphics, and the weird cool looking weapons.
    I'd probably pay $5 for this by itself. This one adds to the pile of
    money I'd pay for the bundle at least.



    * Universe For Sale

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/1627840/Universe_For_Sale/
    The one that is a visual novel.

    Meh. The "best" one of those that was given away within the last year
    barely interested me.



    * This Means Warp
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/1269300/This_Means_Warp/
    The one that is an FTL clone. Except it has a procedurally
    generated universe that you can explore and isn't as good.
    Just play FTL.

    *Sigh* I didn't even like FTL, can't see me liking this one.

    I'll admit it; these choices are challenging my 'favorite-day-
    of-the-month' theory. It hasn't overturned it entirely, though;
    although not generally my style, "Sifu" is too good to not grab, and
    "High on Life" and "Blacktail" are worth grabbing even if they aren't
    /great/ games. As I've said, one of the things I /like/ about
    HumbleChoice is how it exposes me to games I normally wouldn't
    purchase because I'd rather put my money to games more suited to my
    tastes. These curated selections make me expand my horizons, and
    that's not necessarily a bad thing. It's definitely worth the pittance
    I spend each month.

    So while August's games aren't making me leap with joy, neither are
    they making me abandon my favorite-day theory. I just hope next month
    it'll be a bit more favoriter, if you know what I mean.

    So looks like about a $25 value to me, though realistically it'd have to
    be less as I'm trying not to buy games when I'm already playing one, as
    they tend to get forgotten about that way.

    If I understand correctly it's $12 for the games but you have to cancel
    if you don't want to automatically get the next month's games. Very
    tempting, but I don't like that payment model.

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Wed Aug 7 10:27:55 2024
    On 8/7/2024 10:00 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Wed, 7 Aug 2024 08:58:15 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
    On 06/08/2024 20:51, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:


    * High On Life
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/1583230/High_On_Life/
    The one with the talking gun. Coarse and sophomoric,
    its style belies its solid gameplay, but damn you'd
    better be able to stomach the stupid jokes and visuals.
    It's not half as funny as it thinks it is (well, unless
    you play it while high, in which case you'll probably
    have a blast). But the shootie-shoot-shoot bits are
    well done.

    Actual humour in games is pretty rare in my opinion. What is far more
    common is attempted humour that only appeals to the type of person that
    thinks knob gags are the way to go. Some games that I found at least
    amusing though are Tales From The Borderlands and Portal I/II. Not laugh
    out loud funny but more raise a smile funny and possibly a titter.

    Humor is hard because it very, very often depends on precise pacing
    for its gags. And controlling the pacing is one of the biggest
    difficulty in computer games, because -unless you completely railroad
    the players- it's the gamer who determines what happens and when.

    It can be done, of course; it can even be done well sometimes. There
    are a variety of methods you can use too (for instance, just keep the
    jokes to the cutscenes, when the player has no control except to
    watch). "High on Life" seems to rely on the 'constant stream'
    methodology; just keep nattering about with endless cracks and japes.
    Some of them will inevitably hit. But the disadvantage to this is that
    a) the nonstop noise can get annoying really quickly, and b) it's hard
    to maintain a stream of quality jokes, so as often you're hearing
    b-list material.

    Plus, humor is so incredibly subjective... not only amongst people,
    but to the same person at different times. What's funny to somebody
    today might not be tomorrow, depending on their mood and things going
    on in their life.

    There are some games which do it well, but a lot of developers just
    don't have the talent. So they go with "haha, isn't this weird and
    offbeat!" and hope for cheap laughs. Which works in the short-term,
    because laughter is essentially just an expression of surprise, but it doesn't have any lasting impact. "High on Life" seems to fall into
    this latter category.


    Seeing as it has "High" in it, I'm guessing it's humor for stoners. I definitely don't find any of that particularly funny, and would probably
    get annoyed by it quickly.

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