• Re: FREE GAME: "Fallout Classic" and "Wild Card Football"

    From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Aug 29 18:37:19 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    Oh God, is it Thursday again? Fine, let's do this. Open the Epic
    client, figure out what games are available, find the URLs, do a
    write-up... you know, the usual. Well, I'm sure the effort will be all
    worth it, right?

    Right. ;)


    * Fallout Classic Collection https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/bundles/fallout-classic-collection
    Just in case you somehow (!) haven't managed to get this
    games yet, here's another chance: this collection includes
    the original Fallout, Fallout 2 and Fallout: Brotherhood of
    Steel (but if you've been a regular to these posts, you
    probably nabbed them on Epic back in December 2022). Ehn.
    They're good games, I guess, but they haven't aged all
    that well and they're such common freebies that its hard
    to get excited about them anymore.

    I'm still a Fallout virgin so this is might chance, but when will I play
    them? Will I enjoy them? :P


    * Wild Card Football
    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/wild-card-football
    It's American football, in case you were wondering. I
    suppose if you're into the game, this isn't a bad title
    with some good visuals and competent mechanics. But keep
    in mind it's far more arcade than sim game, with power-ups
    and quick action as the primary focus. Unfortunately,
    it's marred by requiring an always-online connection and
    has a lot of MTX. It's got a number of bugs too. It's a
    game that COULD have been great, I think, if they hadn't
    gotten so greedy.

    Hmm, it looks different. I will take it.


    I'm not sure it was worth the effort. Well, at least I don't have to
    worry about doing it again for another seven days...

    Hopefully, forever! ;)
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Aug 29 20:00:03 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 17:27 this Thursday (GMT):

    Oh God, is it Thursday again? Fine, let's do this. Open the Epic
    client, figure out what games are available, find the URLs, do a
    write-up... you know, the usual. Well, I'm sure the effort will be all
    worth it, right?


    * Fallout Classic Collection https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/bundles/fallout-classic-collection
    Just in case you somehow (!) haven't managed to get this
    games yet, here's another chance: this collection includes
    the original Fallout, Fallout 2 and Fallout: Brotherhood of
    Steel (but if you've been a regular to these posts, you
    probably nabbed them on Epic back in December 2022). Ehn.
    They're good games, I guess, but they haven't aged all
    that well and they're such common freebies that its hard
    to get excited about them anymore.


    I'll be surprised if they didn't mess up this collection. Seems like
    every "classic collection" has some issues nowadays.
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Aug 30 18:07:04 2024
    On 8/30/2024 8:28 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 18:37:19 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    Oh God, is it Thursday again? Fine, let's do this. Open the Epic
    client, figure out what games are available, find the URLs, do a
    write-up... you know, the usual. Well, I'm sure the effort will be all
    worth it, right?

    Right. ;)


    * Fallout Classic Collection
    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/bundles/fallout-classic-collection
    Just in case you somehow (!) haven't managed to get this
    games yet, here's another chance: this collection includes
    the original Fallout, Fallout 2 and Fallout: Brotherhood of
    Steel (but if you've been a regular to these posts, you
    probably nabbed them on Epic back in December 2022). Ehn.
    They're good games, I guess, but they haven't aged all
    that well and they're such common freebies that its hard
    to get excited about them anymore.

    I'm still a Fallout virgin so this is might chance, but when will I play
    them? Will I enjoy them? :P


    I mean, I don't want to denigrate the original Fallout games. They're considered classics for good reason. But more than many other games,
    they feel /old/.

    The apocalypse just ain't what it used to be.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sat Aug 31 10:06:51 2024
    On 30/08/2024 16:28, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    But "Fallout" looks so much like a modern isometric CRPG that it's
    foibles --its grainy visuals, its uneven difficulty, its shallow
    characters-- feel less like something the developers COULDN'T do as
    something they chose NOT to do. Even as much as I tell myself, "this
    was a game released almost three decades ago!"* I still bump into this incongruity.

    I have played FO:2 for quite a few hours with some mod's including a
    high res. one. Even then it does feel old if I compare it to the
    enhanced editions of say Baldur's Gate or Planescape:Torment which are
    of a similar age. Part of that is possibly down to the UI in the latter
    games isn't that dissimilar to what became the norm whereas I've found
    FO:2 rather clunky and non-intuitive.

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to JAB on Sat Aug 31 09:16:41 2024
    On Sat, 31 Aug 2024 10:06:51 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    I have played FO:2 for quite a few hours with some mod's including a
    high res. one. Even then it does feel old if I compare it to the
    enhanced editions of say Baldur's Gate or Planescape:Torment which are
    of a similar age. Part of that is possibly down to the UI in the latter
    games isn't that dissimilar to what became the norm whereas I've found
    FO:2 rather clunky and non-intuitive.

    I played the original Fallout when it was new. I remember the graphics
    looking like crap and the inventory interface also being crap. I am
    not surprised in the least that the original fallout games have aged
    poorly.

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  • From Ross Ridge@21:1/5 to Mike_S@nowhere.com on Sat Aug 31 14:39:58 2024
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    I played the original Fallout when it was new. I remember the graphics >looking like crap and the inventory interface also being crap. I am
    not surprised in the least that the original fallout games have aged
    poorly.

    Most of the complaints about the original Fallout's graphics back then
    though were about how it wasn't in 3D, which would've made the graphics
    look even worse by today's standards. I do remember people complaining
    about the UI though. Specifically I remember a thread here on Usenet
    where people were trying to figure out how to interact with a ladder.

    Personally I didn't have a problem with the graphics back then, though I
    did find the UI a bit clunky. It helped that I already knew the trick
    to using ladders. Even when I finally got around to playing Fallout 2
    for the first time 10 years ago I didn't have a problem with the graphics.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Ross Ridge on Sat Aug 31 08:29:53 2024
    On 8/31/2024 7:39 AM, Ross Ridge wrote:
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    I played the original Fallout when it was new. I remember the graphics
    looking like crap and the inventory interface also being crap. I am
    not surprised in the least that the original fallout games have aged
    poorly.

    Most of the complaints about the original Fallout's graphics back then
    though were about how it wasn't in 3D, which would've made the graphics
    look even worse by today's standards. I do remember people complaining
    about the UI though. Specifically I remember a thread here on Usenet
    where people were trying to figure out how to interact with a ladder.

    Personally I didn't have a problem with the graphics back then, though I
    did find the UI a bit clunky. It helped that I already knew the trick
    to using ladders. Even when I finally got around to playing Fallout 2
    for the first time 10 years ago I didn't have a problem with the graphics.

    A bad UI is a much worse sin than "poor" graphics. Poor graphics are a
    form of beauty/ugly and therefore are in the eye of the beholder. Bad
    UI makes the game physically difficult to play.

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  • From Ross Ridge@21:1/5 to dtravel@sonic.net on Sat Aug 31 17:24:57 2024
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    A bad UI is a much worse sin than "poor" graphics. Poor graphics are a
    form of beauty/ugly and therefore are in the eye of the beholder. Bad
    UI makes the game physically difficult to play.

    Fallout 2's UI wasn't bad, it just wasn't always very intuitive.
    Once you figured it out though it wasn't physically difficult to play.
    A lot games were like that back then because many of the UI conventions
    games rely on today hadn't been created yet.

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