• Microid's 2024 Empire of the Ants demo came out yesterday!

    From Ant@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 16 02:12:02 2024
    XPost: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic, comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategy

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/

    And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce
    GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :(
    Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better hardwares. Ha! :P
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    all need 2 do da same 2! Ow, hurty backy after a 8 hrs. hibernation with 1 pee break. :( Finally cooler weather & emptied bins. Need a new video card to play Microid's 2024 Empire of the Ants game.
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  • From PW@21:1/5 to Ant on Tue Oct 15 21:29:03 2024
    On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:12:02 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/

    And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce
    GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :( >Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better >hardwares. Ha! :P

    *--

    Maybe we should all chip in and get Ant what he needs to play his
    family game. Or maybe Spalls will find something good at the
    dumpsters for Ant.

    I am downloading the demo now :-)

    -pw

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Ant on Tue Oct 15 22:40:21 2024
    XPost: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic

    On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:12:02 +0000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,
    Ant wrote:

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/

    And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce
    GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :( >Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better >hardwares. Ha! :P

    Bookmarked and wishlisted. This looks antastic!

    --f--

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  • From rms@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 16 09:08:10 2024
    XPost: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic

    Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better >hardwares. Ha! :P

    In the meantime, read the classic short story, Leiningen Versus the Ants
    !!
    https://www.classicshorts.com/stories/lvta.html

    rms

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  • From PW@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Wed Oct 16 10:08:21 2024
    On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 10:54:22 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:12:02 +0000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,
    Ant wrote:


    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/
    And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce >>>GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :( >>>Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better >>>hardwares. Ha! :P


    On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:29:03 -0600, PW
    <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
    Maybe we should all chip in and get Ant what he needs to play his
    family game. Or maybe Spalls will find something good at the
    dumpsters for Ant.

    The dumpsters have been sadly quite empty recently. I think the
    building staff is on to me and hoarding the good stuff for themselves
    inside rather than leaving it on curb.


    I think you are right Spalls!! You were being watched all the time,
    now they know how to do it.


    On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:40:21 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:
    Bookmarked and wishlisted. This looks antastic!

    Argh. You deserve to be staked out in the desert and covered with
    honey for that pun.



    As to the game itself...

    Firstly, there's a demo for those not sure if it's for them: >https://store.steampowered.com/app/3062270/Empire_of_the_Ants__Demo/

    Beyond that... well, the visuals are the game's biggest hook (and the
    bugs, if you're into that sort of thing). But what little the trailers
    show of the gameplay just doesn't look all that interesting. At best
    it seems a rather humdrum RTS; some of its mechanics (riding a giant
    snail? or leading armies of ants against armies of beetles?) seem
    outright silly (and in direct opposition to the ultra-realistic theme
    the visuals suggest), and apparently everything is done in
    third-person mode, requiring you to shepherd your forces everywhere?

    It just seems to lack any novelty or sophistication beyond its
    graphics. I can't personally get excited about it.



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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Wed Oct 16 23:55:43 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:12:02 +0000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,
    Ant wrote:


    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/
    And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce >>GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :( >>Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better >>hardwares. Ha! :P


    On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:29:03 -0600, PW
    <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
    Maybe we should all chip in and get Ant what he needs to play his
    family game. Or maybe Spalls will find something good at the
    dumpsters for Ant.

    The dumpsters have been sadly quite empty recently. I think the
    building staff is on to me and hoarding the good stuff for themselves
    inside rather than leaving it on curb.

    Did your previous good stuff include good video cards though? :p


    On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:40:21 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:
    Bookmarked and wishlisted. This looks antastic!

    Argh. You deserve to be staked out in the desert and covered with
    honey for that pun.

    Hahah.


    As to the game itself...

    Firstly, there's a demo for those not sure if it's for them: https://store.steampowered.com/app/3062270/Empire_of_the_Ants__Demo/

    Beyond that... well, the visuals are the game's biggest hook (and the
    bugs, if you're into that sort of thing). But what little the trailers
    show of the gameplay just doesn't look all that interesting. At best
    it seems a rather humdrum RTS; some of its mechanics (riding a giant
    snail? or leading armies of ants against armies of beetles?) seem
    outright silly (and in direct opposition to the ultra-realistic theme
    the visuals suggest), and apparently everything is done in
    third-person mode, requiring you to shepherd your forces everywhere?

    It just seems to lack any novelty or sophistication beyond its
    graphics. I can't personally get excited about it.

    So, you're not a RTS fan?
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to rms on Wed Oct 16 23:56:15 2024
    XPost: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic

    In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action rms <rsquiresMOO@mooflashmoo.net> wrote:
    Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better >hardwares. Ha! :P

    In the meantime, read the classic short story, Leiningen Versus the Ants
    !!
    https://www.classicshorts.com/stories/lvta.html

    Me read? No thanks. Hence why I don't read books, play adventure games, etc. ;P --
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.co on Wed Oct 16 23:54:32 2024
    PW <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:12:02 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/

    And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce
    GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :( >Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better >hardwares. Ha! :P

    *--

    Maybe we should all chip in and get Ant what he needs to play his
    family game. Or maybe Spalls will find something good at the
    dumpsters for Ant.

    I am downloading the demo now :-)

    Please kindly let us know how it is. I know it's pretty, but is it fun?
    I didn't like the original game back in Y2K/2001: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_of_the_Ants_%28video_game%29.
    Funny, the company gave me a free retail copy back then! They should
    give me this one and a better video card/PC. ;) Did anyone play that one?

    --
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  • From PW@21:1/5 to Ant on Wed Oct 16 20:34:32 2024
    On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 23:54:32 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    PW <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:12:02 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/

    And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce
    GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :(
    Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better
    hardwares. Ha! :P

    *--

    Maybe we should all chip in and get Ant what he needs to play his
    family game. Or maybe Spalls will find something good at the
    dumpsters for Ant.

    I am downloading the demo now :-)

    Please kindly let us know how it is. I know it's pretty, but is it fun?
    I didn't like the original game back in Y2K/2001: >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_of_the_Ants_%28video_game%29.
    Funny, the company gave me a free retail copy back then! They should
    give me this one and a better video card/PC. ;) Did anyone play that one?

    *--

    It is pretty for sure, and detailed. I find the angle low to the
    ground hard to see things and move, especially moving the mouse and
    making orders. Maybe I should try a controller.. I have ordered a
    couple of my two groups of ants to attack and claim territory but that
    is it so far. Looks like there will be lots to do. But not sure how
    much I can take at a time. A little bit of a learning curve, of
    course.

    I am going to try it again maybe tomorrow.

    I am itching all over the place now! :-)

    -pw

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 17 08:17:24 2024
    On 10/16/2024 7:34 PM, PW wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 23:54:32 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    PW <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:12:02 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/

    And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce >>>> GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :( >>>> Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better >>>> hardwares. Ha! :P

    *--

    Maybe we should all chip in and get Ant what he needs to play his
    family game. Or maybe Spalls will find something good at the
    dumpsters for Ant.

    I am downloading the demo now :-)

    Please kindly let us know how it is. I know it's pretty, but is it fun?
    I didn't like the original game back in Y2K/2001:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_of_the_Ants_%28video_game%29.
    Funny, the company gave me a free retail copy back then! They should
    give me this one and a better video card/PC. ;) Did anyone play that one?

    *--

    It is pretty for sure, and detailed. I find the angle low to the
    ground hard to see things and move, especially moving the mouse and
    making orders. Maybe I should try a controller.. I have ordered a
    couple of my two groups of ants to attack and claim territory but that
    is it so far. Looks like there will be lots to do. But not sure how
    much I can take at a time. A little bit of a learning curve, of
    course.

    I am going to try it again maybe tomorrow.

    I am itching all over the place now! :-)

    "Bugs, Mr. Rico. Zillions of em!"

    --
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    dirty old man.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Thu Oct 17 23:23:41 2024
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    ...
    I am itching all over the place now! :-)

    "Bugs, Mr. Rico. Zillions of em!"

    Where is that quote from?
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Oct 17 23:32:12 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 23:56:15 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action rms <rsquiresMOO@mooflashmoo.net> wrote:
    Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better >> >hardwares. Ha! :P

    In the meantime, read the classic short story, Leiningen Versus the Ants >> !!
    https://www.classicshorts.com/stories/lvta.html

    Me read? No thanks. Hence why I don't read books, play adventure games, etc. ;P

    Well, given that each letter is the size of your entire body, I can
    see the difficulty. Just reading a page is the equivalent of walking a
    mile. A chapter would be a marathon.

    Frankly, I'm surprised you even manage to post on Usenet. You must
    have an extremely sensitive keyboard to respond to the miniscule
    pressure an ant's foot can produce.

    Here's me with my old PC: https://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/cs.jpg :P

    There are many things that ants can use as shown in https://old.reddit.com/r/thingsforants/. Don't underestimate the ants!
    ;)
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.co on Thu Oct 17 23:23:17 2024
    PW <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 23:54:32 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    PW <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:12:02 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/

    And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce
    GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :( >> >Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better >> >hardwares. Ha! :P

    *--

    Maybe we should all chip in and get Ant what he needs to play his
    family game. Or maybe Spalls will find something good at the
    dumpsters for Ant.

    I am downloading the demo now :-)

    Please kindly let us know how it is. I know it's pretty, but is it fun?
    I didn't like the original game back in Y2K/2001: >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_of_the_Ants_%28video_game%29.
    Funny, the company gave me a free retail copy back then! They should
    give me this one and a better video card/PC. ;) Did anyone play that one?

    *--

    It is pretty for sure, and detailed. I find the angle low to the
    ground hard to see things and move, especially moving the mouse and
    making orders. Maybe I should try a controller.. I have ordered a
    couple of my two groups of ants to attack and claim territory but that
    is it so far. Looks like there will be lots to do. But not sure how
    much I can take at a time. A little bit of a learning curve, of
    course.

    I am going to try it again maybe tomorrow.

    Interesting. I thought this RTS game would be perfect for keyboard +
    mouse combined like other RTS games.


    I am itching all over the place now! :-)

    Do I make you itch too? ;-)
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Oct 17 23:28:01 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 23:55:43 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:12:02 +0000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic, >> >Ant wrote:


    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/
    And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce >> >>GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :( >> >>Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better >> >>hardwares. Ha! :P


    On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:29:03 -0600, PW
    <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
    Maybe we should all chip in and get Ant what he needs to play his
    family game. Or maybe Spalls will find something good at the
    dumpsters for Ant.

    The dumpsters have been sadly quite empty recently. I think the
    building staff is on to me and hoarding the good stuff for themselves
    inside rather than leaving it on curb.

    Did your previous good stuff include good video cards though? :p


    Actually, I once found a complete system with a GeForce 790GTX and an
    i7 processor; it wasn't top-of-the-line stuff even at the time, but it
    was still a pretty decent gaming rig.

    Ha, that video card would handle this game well than my old card. ;P


    (It also had its hard-drives complete with all the user data on it in unencrypted format. People really need to learn to wipe their drives
    before tossing their PCs)

    Geez. Did you find anything good in their HDDs? ;)


    As to the game itself...

    Firstly, there's a demo for those not sure if it's for them:
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/3062270/Empire_of_the_Ants__Demo/

    Beyond that... well, the visuals are the game's biggest hook (and the
    bugs, if you're into that sort of thing). But what little the trailers
    show of the gameplay just doesn't look all that interesting. At best
    it seems a rather humdrum RTS; some of its mechanics (riding a giant
    snail? or leading armies of ants against armies of beetles?) seem
    outright silly (and in direct opposition to the ultra-realistic theme
    the visuals suggest), and apparently everything is done in
    third-person mode, requiring you to shepherd your forces everywhere?

    It just seems to lack any novelty or sophistication beyond its
    graphics. I can't personally get excited about it.

    So, you're not a RTS fan?

    I play them. I enjoy them. They're not my favorite genre, but I don't
    dislike them in general.

    I'm a bit less sanguine about action/strategy RTS games, where you
    have to take on the role of one of the soldiers on the battlefield and
    order your troops from a ground-level perspective. I find it messy and
    overly complicated. Even though several games -- "Battlezone" (1998)
    or "Hostile Waters: Anteaus Rising", for instance-- rose to prominence
    based on the mechanic, I think a lot of their success came from the
    novelty of the idea rather than its workability. It's a concept that
    is better left in the dustbin of history, as far as I'm concerned. ;-)

    So, you didn't like RTS games like Dune, C&C, WC, SC, AoE, etc. I love those. --
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Ant on Thu Oct 17 18:06:02 2024
    On 10/17/2024 4:23 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    ...
    I am itching all over the place now! :-)

    "Bugs, Mr. Rico. Zillions of em!"

    Where is that quote from?

    The book 'Starship Troopers' by Robert Heinlein.

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to Ant on Fri Oct 18 09:22:45 2024
    On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 23:28:01 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    So, you didn't like RTS games like Dune, C&C, WC, SC, AoE, etc. I love those.

    I absolutely love Age of Empires 1 and 2. I always have one of the
    definitive editions of those games installed. But I never cared for
    any of the other RTS series. I tried all of the ones in your list and
    the only one there I liked enough to finish was Warcraft 2 Tides of
    Darkness.

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Oct 18 12:10:00 2024
    On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 10:54:22 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Argh. You deserve to be staked out in the desert and covered with
    honey for that pun.

    If it doesn't provoke that sort of reaction, it's not a good pun.

    --
    Zag

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    spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 18 22:49:43 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 23:28:01 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 23:55:43 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:12:02 +0000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic, >>> >> >Ant wrote:


    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/
    And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce >>> >> >>GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :(
    Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better
    hardwares. Ha! :P


    On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:29:03 -0600, PW
    <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
    Maybe we should all chip in and get Ant what he needs to play his
    family game. Or maybe Spalls will find something good at the
    dumpsters for Ant.

    The dumpsters have been sadly quite empty recently. I think the
    building staff is on to me and hoarding the good stuff for themselves >>> >> inside rather than leaving it on curb.

    Did your previous good stuff include good video cards though? :p


    Actually, I once found a complete system with a GeForce 790GTX and an
    i7 processor; it wasn't top-of-the-line stuff even at the time, but it
    was still a pretty decent gaming rig.

    Ha, that video card would handle this game well than my old card. ;P

    It was -still is- a quite capable system, despite it being over a
    decade old at this point. Certainly it could handle a lot of my
    mainstay games (<cough>Truck Simulators</cough>) well enough, and even
    a lot of the more modern titles, if at reduced graphics levels. Which
    says less about the power of the machine and more about the state of
    modern gaming.

    But mostly I keep it around because it has easy-swap SATA bays which
    makes it useful for whenever I need to test / wipe hard-drives. No
    need to open up another computer, or fiddle around with external drive >chassis; I just slip the drive in the caddy and I'm good to go.

    (It also had its hard-drives complete with all the user data on it in
    unencrypted format. People really need to learn to wipe their drives
    before tossing their PCs)

    Geez. Did you find anything good in their HDDs? ;)


    Are you implying that I snooped around that hard-drive before doing
    the proper thing and deleting the contents of the drive? Why, I never!
    ;-)

    (but all sorts of stuff, including photos, scans of drivers license,
    credit card numbers, documents with government ID, etc. Were I evil, I
    could have done Bad Things with that information. DELETE YOUR DRIVES, >people!)

    Drills or thermite people.

    Unrecoverability should be a point of pride!

    Xocyll

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sat Oct 19 11:18:38 2024
    On 18/10/2024 17:22, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    So, you didn't like RTS games like Dune, C&C, WC, SC, AoE, etc. I love those.

    No, that's not what I said.

    Well, except "Dune". I never really liked that one. Too crunky in its
    design. RTS weren't worth playing until C&C/Warcraft, IMHO.

    But I played the heck out of the C&C series, enjoyed Warcraft, played
    Age of Empires (and Rise of Nations), and a whole bunch more. I'll
    admit, I was never a fanatic about the genre, and I almost never
    played them online. Mostly, my strategies revolved around turtling up
    and making pretty bases, then building the biggest army and sending
    them en masse to wipe out the baddies when they got too annoying.
    (playing it sort of like SimCity except with annoying neighbors 😉.
    Some engaged me more than others; for instance, I quite enjoyed the
    "Ground Control" games, and I found the "Battle for Middle Earth"
    games much more satisfying than even I expected. But they always
    played second fiddle to more other genres I enjoyed more: FPS games,
    or RPGs, for instance.

    But the ones I enjoyed most were the ones where you had a god's eye
    view of the battle and not the one that also required you to control a
    unit on the ground, like "Hostile Waters", "BattleZone", "Sacrifice"
    and -apparently- "Empire of Ants". I just don't find the hybrid mix of
    RTS and FPS/TPS a good mixture.

    Although my most played RTS is Total Annihilation my favourite is Ground Control. The main reason is that it removes the whole resource/base
    management aspects and just concentrates on the tactical gameplay. It
    also didn't degenerate into a click-fest.

    My view is games are better if they know what genre they are and stick
    to it. That's why I have a problem with both XCOM:Enemy Unknown and the
    Total War series. I just wish they have one core aspect.

    An interesting one was Field of Glory:II where they ditched the basic
    campaign mode from their previous title and instead went with a series
    of linked battles where occasionally you had a choice to make.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Sun Oct 20 02:13:57 2024
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/17/2024 4:23 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    ...
    I am itching all over the place now! :-)

    "Bugs, Mr. Rico. Zillions of em!"

    Where is that quote from?

    The book 'Starship Troopers' by Robert Heinlein.

    Ah. Was it in the movie too?
    --
    "When words are many, sin is not absent, but he who holds his tongue is wise." --Proverbs 10:19. Not :) after the mid afternoon 30 mins. nap with :( news (old buds moving, hi bills, USC lost again, etc.).
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Sun Oct 20 02:14:20 2024
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 23:28:01 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    So, you didn't like RTS games like Dune, C&C, WC, SC, AoE, etc. I love those.

    I absolutely love Age of Empires 1 and 2. I always have one of the
    definitive editions of those games installed. But I never cared for
    any of the other RTS series. I tried all of the ones in your list and
    the only one there I liked enough to finish was Warcraft 2 Tides of
    Darkness.

    :D
    --
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to JAB on Sun Oct 20 02:19:10 2024
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
    ...
    Although my most played RTS is Total Annihilation my favourite is Ground Control. The main reason is that it removes the whole resource/base management aspects and just concentrates on the tactical gameplay. It
    also didn't degenerate into a click-fest.

    I coudln't get into TA with its demo. Funny, my next door neighbor
    bought me this game for Christmas and I never opened it because of that!


    My view is games are better if they know what genre they are and stick
    to it. That's why I have a problem with both XCOM:Enemy Unknown and the
    Total War series. I just wish they have one core aspect.

    I couldn't get into those too.


    An interesting one was Field of Glory:II where they ditched the basic campaign mode from their previous title and instead went with a series
    of linked battles where occasionally you had a choice to make.

    I don't think I ever played that series. I am not a fan of that genre too.
    --
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sun Oct 20 02:21:02 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    Bookmarked and wishlisted. This looks antastic!

    Argh. You deserve to be staked out in the desert and covered with
    honey for that pun.

    Something like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAWrAQp7pWQ
    --
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sun Oct 20 02:17:30 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    It was -still is- a quite capable system, despite it being over a
    decade old at this point. Certainly it could handle a lot of my
    mainstay games (<cough>Truck Simulators</cough>) well enough, and even
    a lot of the more modern titles, if at reduced graphics levels. Which
    says less about the power of the machine and more about the state of
    modern gaming.

    But mostly I keep it around because it has easy-swap SATA bays which
    makes it useful for whenever I need to test / wipe hard-drives. No
    need to open up another computer, or fiddle around with external drive chassis; I just slip the drive in the caddy and I'm good to go.

    Nice. It's hard for me due to my multiple disabilities. :(


    (It also had its hard-drives complete with all the user data on it in
    unencrypted format. People really need to learn to wipe their drives
    before tossing their PCs)

    Geez. Did you find anything good in their HDDs? ;)


    Are you implying that I snooped around that hard-drive before doing
    the proper thing and deleting the contents of the drive? Why, I never!
    ;-)

    (but all sorts of stuff, including photos, scans of drivers license,
    credit card numbers, documents with government ID, etc. Were I evil, I
    could have done Bad Things with that information. DELETE YOUR DRIVES, people!)

    That's nuts. I always encrypt my drives!


    So, you're not a RTS fan?

    I play them. I enjoy them. They're not my favorite genre, but I don't
    dislike them in general.

    I'm a bit less sanguine about action/strategy RTS games, where you
    have to take on the role of one of the soldiers on the battlefield and
    order your troops from a ground-level perspective. I find it messy and
    overly complicated. Even though several games -- "Battlezone" (1998)
    or "Hostile Waters: Anteaus Rising", for instance-- rose to prominence
    based on the mechanic, I think a lot of their success came from the
    novelty of the idea rather than its workability. It's a concept that
    is better left in the dustbin of history, as far as I'm concerned. ;-)

    So, you didn't like RTS games like Dune, C&C, WC, SC, AoE, etc. I love those.

    No, that's not what I said.

    Well, except "Dune". I never really liked that one. Too crunky in its
    design. RTS weren't worth playing until C&C/Warcraft, IMHO.

    Dune 2 was so awesome on my IBM PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC. I tried to
    replay it, but gah its controls were awful adter playing modern RTS
    games. One unit at a time?!


    But I played the heck out of the C&C series, enjoyed Warcraft, played
    Age of Empires (and Rise of Nations), and a whole bunch more. I'll
    admit, I was never a fanatic about the genre, and I almost never
    played them online. Mostly, my strategies revolved around turtling up
    and making pretty bases, then building the biggest army and sending
    them en masse to wipe out the baddies when they got too annoying.
    (playing it sort of like SimCity except with annoying neighbors ;-).
    Some engaged me more than others; for instance, I quite enjoyed the
    "Ground Control" games, and I found the "Battle for Middle Earth"
    games much more satisfying than even I expected. But they always
    played second fiddle to more other genres I enjoyed more: FPS games,
    or RPGs, for instance.

    But the ones I enjoyed most were the ones where you had a god's eye
    view of the battle and not the one that also required you to control a
    unit on the ground, like "Hostile Waters", "BattleZone", "Sacrifice"
    and -apparently- "Empire of Ants". I just don't find the hybrid mix of
    RTS and FPS/TPS a good mixture.

    Ah.
    --
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Ant on Sat Oct 19 22:12:46 2024
    On 10/19/2024 7:13 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/17/2024 4:23 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    ...
    I am itching all over the place now! :-)

    "Bugs, Mr. Rico. Zillions of em!"

    Where is that quote from?

    The book 'Starship Troopers' by Robert Heinlein.

    Ah. Was it in the movie too?

    I step on you for even mentioning the movie.

    --
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    dirty old man.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Mon Oct 21 02:48:07 2024
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/19/2024 7:13 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/17/2024 4:23 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    ...
    I am itching all over the place now! :-)

    "Bugs, Mr. Rico. Zillions of em!"

    Where is that quote from?

    The book 'Starship Troopers' by Robert Heinlein.

    Ah. Was it in the movie too?

    I step on you for even mentioning the movie.

    I like the movie. I don't like to read. :P
    --
    "Fear the Lord your God and serve him. Hold fast to him and take your oaths in his name. He is the one you praise; he is your God, who performed for you those great and awesome wonders you saw with your own eyes." --Deuteronomy 10:20-21. Bah 2 more old
    buds moving, hi bills, USC's CFB loss again, etc.
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Mon Oct 21 02:49:52 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 02:17:30 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:


    Well, except "Dune". I never really liked that one. Too crunky in its
    design. RTS weren't worth playing until C&C/Warcraft, IMHO.

    Dune 2 was so awesome on my IBM PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC. I tried to >replay it, but gah its controls were awful adter playing modern RTS
    games. One unit at a time?!

    In fairness, I really only 'discovered' "Dune II" around the time that
    I started playing "Warcraft" and (shortly afterwards) "Command &
    Conquer".

    [although I played the hell out of Cryo Interactive's
    original "Dune" game. Man, that game had awesome music.]

    Even with FM MIDI on my original Creative Labs' Sound Blaster in the
    same PC! And nice graphics, but the genre was not for me!


    Compared to those later RTS games, the limitations of "Dune II" were
    really annoying, and it set my opinion of the game forever afterward.

    I did have some fun with the remake, "Dune 2000", released some years afterward which used the engine and mechanics of "Command & Conquer
    II". Although even then, it never ranked that highly, just because
    that game came out when there was such a glut of RTS games that it
    failed to stand out amongst its peers.

    Dune 2K was cool. Don't forget Emperor: Battle for Dune too!


    For a while on PC, I think there were more RTS games than FPS. I can't
    say I played _all_ of them, but damned if I didn't try! So many titles
    almost nobody even remembers anymore: Metal Fatigue, Submarine Titans,
    Dark Reign, GeneWars, Baldies, Tzar, Beatdown, Seven Kingdoms,
    Firewall, Hooligans, Enemy Nations, Machines, 7th Legion and so many
    more...

    Tooooooooooooo many. I don't think I played those.

    --
    "Fear the Lord your God and serve him. Hold fast to him and take your oaths in his name. He is the one you praise; he is your God, who performed for you those great and awesome wonders you saw with your own eyes." --Deuteronomy 10:20-21. Bah 2 more old
    buds moving, hi bills, USC's CFB loss again, etc.
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Ant on Sun Oct 20 21:44:13 2024
    On 10/20/2024 7:48 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/19/2024 7:13 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/17/2024 4:23 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    ...
    I am itching all over the place now! :-)

    "Bugs, Mr. Rico. Zillions of em!"

    Where is that quote from?

    The book 'Starship Troopers' by Robert Heinlein.

    Ah. Was it in the movie too?

    I step on you for even mentioning the movie.

    I like the movie. I don't like to read. :P

    The movie had been written and was already in pre-production when the
    producers found out the movie rights to the book were for sale. So they
    bought those rights so they could use the book's title.

    No joke.

    --
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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 21 06:32:49 2024
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On 10/20/2024 7:48 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/19/2024 7:13 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/17/2024 4:23 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    ...
    I am itching all over the place now! :-)

    "Bugs, Mr. Rico. Zillions of em!"

    Where is that quote from?

    The book 'Starship Troopers' by Robert Heinlein.

    Ah. Was it in the movie too?

    I step on you for even mentioning the movie.

    I like the movie. I don't like to read. :P

    The movie had been written and was already in pre-production when the >producers found out the movie rights to the book were for sale. So they >bought those rights so they could use the book's title.

    No joke.


    Title and bolted on a few names from the book, and a couple of themes
    (the whole service thing.)

    But everything else was a mockery - assault rifles with an apparent
    range of 10 feet, forcing the soldiers to shoot point blank at something
    that can cut them in half with a swipe. Um yeah, sure.

    And the whole psi corp stuff in SS uniforms, no wonder the film is
    nicknamed Nazi Germany 90210.

    Oh yeah, and the chick flying the ship dodging an asteroid coming in
    FTL, yeah, these guys can't even spell science much less know any.

    Xocyll

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Mon Oct 21 08:00:06 2024
    On 10/21/2024 7:15 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 06:32:49 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:
    On 10/20/2024 7:48 PM, Ant wrote:

    I like the movie. I don't like to read. :P

    The movie had been written and was already in pre-production when the
    producers found out the movie rights to the book were for sale. So they >>> bought those rights so they could use the book's title.
    No joke.

    Title and bolted on a few names from the book, and a couple of themes
    (the whole service thing.)

    But everything else was a mockery - assault rifles with an apparent
    range of 10 feet, forcing the soldiers to shoot point blank at something
    that can cut them in half with a swipe. Um yeah, sure.

    And the whole psi corp stuff in SS uniforms, no wonder the film is
    nicknamed Nazi Germany 90210.

    Oh yeah, and the chick flying the ship dodging an asteroid coming in
    FTL, yeah, these guys can't even spell science much less know any.


    And don't forget the complete and utter lack of powered battle armor, something the book is most famous for popularizing.

    "Starship Troopers" without powered armor is Star Wars without
    lightsabers. I mean, sure you _could_... but why?*

    In fairness, a lot of the other stuff mentioned above (the fascism,
    the shitty science, the psi stuff) was part and parcel of the book
    too, albeit not so central to the narrative. I'll forgive that... even
    if I didn't necessarily enjoy it. But the lack of powered armor?

    Actually the political stuff in the movie is almost the polar opposite
    of the book. Heinlein wrote a war story about service, as in western
    democracy type "service". The citizenship criteria in the book was
    _ANY_ kind of service. Being assigned as a park ranger planting trees
    was service and could grant citizenship. He strongly emphasized that non-citizens were not an underclass.

    The "Nazis BAAAAD!" parts of the movie were ALL Verhoeven, things that
    he added deliberately. He's admitted that in interviews.

    --
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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 21 12:48:20 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 06:32:49 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote: >>Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the >>entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:
    On 10/20/2024 7:48 PM, Ant wrote:

    I like the movie. I don't like to read. :P

    The movie had been written and was already in pre-production when the >>>producers found out the movie rights to the book were for sale. So they >>>bought those rights so they could use the book's title.
    No joke.

    Title and bolted on a few names from the book, and a couple of themes
    (the whole service thing.)

    But everything else was a mockery - assault rifles with an apparent
    range of 10 feet, forcing the soldiers to shoot point blank at something >>that can cut them in half with a swipe. Um yeah, sure.

    And the whole psi corp stuff in SS uniforms, no wonder the film is >>nicknamed Nazi Germany 90210.

    Oh yeah, and the chick flying the ship dodging an asteroid coming in
    FTL, yeah, these guys can't even spell science much less know any.


    And don't forget the complete and utter lack of powered battle armor, >something the book is most famous for popularizing.

    Oh I didn't, those and the Tactical Nuclear Weapons they used.

    If you've never read it, check out John Steakley's Armor for another
    Armored Infantry vs Giant Alien Ants. Giant being about human sized
    and weapon users.

    "Starship Troopers" without powered armor is Star Wars without
    lightsabers. I mean, sure you _could_... but why?*

    In fairness, a lot of the other stuff mentioned above (the fascism,
    the shitty science, the psi stuff) was part and parcel of the book
    too, albeit not so central to the narrative. I'll forgive that... even
    if I didn't necessarily enjoy it. But the lack of powered armor?

    Roughnecks: The Starship Troopers Chronicles
    Did it right for the most part.
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0190198/


    Blatant heresy. Burn Verhoeven at the stake.** ;-)

    A light singing perhaps, since he's not the one who decided to bolt the
    Book name and some char names and some odds and ends to a completely
    different movie.

    Xocyll

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Ant on Mon Oct 21 18:40:06 2024
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 02:48 this Monday (GMT):
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/19/2024 7:13 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/17/2024 4:23 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    ...
    I am itching all over the place now! :-)

    "Bugs, Mr. Rico. Zillions of em!"

    Where is that quote from?

    The book 'Starship Troopers' by Robert Heinlein.

    Ah. Was it in the movie too?

    I step on you for even mentioning the movie.

    I like the movie. I don't like to read. :P


    are the books too big :D
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Mon Oct 21 20:11:58 2024
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/21/2024 7:15 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 06:32:49 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:
    On 10/20/2024 7:48 PM, Ant wrote:

    I like the movie. I don't like to read. :P

    The movie had been written and was already in pre-production when the
    producers found out the movie rights to the book were for sale. So they >>> bought those rights so they could use the book's title.
    No joke.

    Title and bolted on a few names from the book, and a couple of themes
    (the whole service thing.)

    But everything else was a mockery - assault rifles with an apparent
    range of 10 feet, forcing the soldiers to shoot point blank at something >> that can cut them in half with a swipe. Um yeah, sure.

    And the whole psi corp stuff in SS uniforms, no wonder the film is
    nicknamed Nazi Germany 90210.

    Oh yeah, and the chick flying the ship dodging an asteroid coming in
    FTL, yeah, these guys can't even spell science much less know any.


    And don't forget the complete and utter lack of powered battle armor, something the book is most famous for popularizing.

    "Starship Troopers" without powered armor is Star Wars without
    lightsabers. I mean, sure you _could_... but why?*

    In fairness, a lot of the other stuff mentioned above (the fascism,
    the shitty science, the psi stuff) was part and parcel of the book
    too, albeit not so central to the narrative. I'll forgive that... even
    if I didn't necessarily enjoy it. But the lack of powered armor?

    Actually the political stuff in the movie is almost the polar opposite
    of the book. Heinlein wrote a war story about service, as in western democracy type "service". The citizenship criteria in the book was
    _ANY_ kind of service. Being assigned as a park ranger planting trees
    was service and could grant citizenship. He strongly emphasized that non-citizens were not an underclass.

    The "Nazis BAAAAD!" parts of the movie were ALL Verhoeven, things that
    he added deliberately. He's admitted that in interviews.

    Ah. Someone needs to reboot Starship Troopers movies. Maybe a TV series instead?
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Mon Oct 21 20:19:10 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    But, again, that said more for just how _many_ RTS games were
    available in the late 90s/early 2000s. You literally could not keep
    track of them all.

    Like today. Too many dang games, movies, TV shows, etc. Argh!
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to candycanearter07@candycanearter07.n on Mon Oct 21 20:16:40 2024
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 02:48 this Monday (GMT):
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/19/2024 7:13 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/17/2024 4:23 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    ...
    I am itching all over the place now! :-)

    "Bugs, Mr. Rico. Zillions of em!"

    Where is that quote from?

    The book 'Starship Troopers' by Robert Heinlein.

    Ah. Was it in the movie too?

    I step on you for even mentioning the movie.

    I like the movie. I don't like to read. :P

    are the books too big :D

    No, too many words!
    --
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to candycanearter07@candycanearter07.n on Mon Oct 21 20:18:07 2024
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    ...
    I am itching all over the place now! :-)

    Do I make you itch too? ;-)

    im not allergic to bugs

    Then, why were you itching all over the place earlier? :-P
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Ant on Mon Oct 21 18:40:12 2024
    On 10/21/2024 1:16 PM, Ant wrote:
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 02:48 this Monday (GMT):
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/19/2024 7:13 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/17/2024 4:23 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    ...
    I am itching all over the place now! :-)

    "Bugs, Mr. Rico. Zillions of em!"

    Where is that quote from?

    The book 'Starship Troopers' by Robert Heinlein.

    Ah. Was it in the movie too?

    I step on you for even mentioning the movie.

    I like the movie. I don't like to read. :P

    are the books too big :D

    No, too many words!

    Lazy ass ant.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Ant on Mon Oct 21 18:38:40 2024
    On 10/21/2024 1:11 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/21/2024 7:15 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 06:32:49 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:
    On 10/20/2024 7:48 PM, Ant wrote:

    I like the movie. I don't like to read. :P

    The movie had been written and was already in pre-production when the >>>>> producers found out the movie rights to the book were for sale. So they >>>>> bought those rights so they could use the book's title.
    No joke.

    Title and bolted on a few names from the book, and a couple of themes
    (the whole service thing.)

    But everything else was a mockery - assault rifles with an apparent
    range of 10 feet, forcing the soldiers to shoot point blank at something >>>> that can cut them in half with a swipe. Um yeah, sure.

    And the whole psi corp stuff in SS uniforms, no wonder the film is
    nicknamed Nazi Germany 90210.

    Oh yeah, and the chick flying the ship dodging an asteroid coming in
    FTL, yeah, these guys can't even spell science much less know any.


    And don't forget the complete and utter lack of powered battle armor,
    something the book is most famous for popularizing.

    "Starship Troopers" without powered armor is Star Wars without
    lightsabers. I mean, sure you _could_... but why?*

    In fairness, a lot of the other stuff mentioned above (the fascism,
    the shitty science, the psi stuff) was part and parcel of the book
    too, albeit not so central to the narrative. I'll forgive that... even
    if I didn't necessarily enjoy it. But the lack of powered armor?

    Actually the political stuff in the movie is almost the polar opposite
    of the book. Heinlein wrote a war story about service, as in western
    democracy type "service". The citizenship criteria in the book was
    _ANY_ kind of service. Being assigned as a park ranger planting trees
    was service and could grant citizenship. He strongly emphasized that
    non-citizens were not an underclass.

    The "Nazis BAAAAD!" parts of the movie were ALL Verhoeven, things that
    he added deliberately. He's admitted that in interviews.

    Ah. Someone needs to reboot Starship Troopers movies. Maybe a TV series instead?

    There was an animated series (have the DVDs) and a series of animated
    movies in addition to the two sequels to Verhoeven's movie.

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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 22 05:54:06 2024
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On 10/21/2024 1:11 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/21/2024 7:15 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 06:32:49 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs >>>>> say:
    On 10/20/2024 7:48 PM, Ant wrote:

    I like the movie. I don't like to read. :P

    The movie had been written and was already in pre-production when the >>>>>> producers found out the movie rights to the book were for sale. So they >>>>>> bought those rights so they could use the book's title.
    No joke.

    Title and bolted on a few names from the book, and a couple of themes >>>>> (the whole service thing.)

    But everything else was a mockery - assault rifles with an apparent
    range of 10 feet, forcing the soldiers to shoot point blank at something >>>>> that can cut them in half with a swipe. Um yeah, sure.

    And the whole psi corp stuff in SS uniforms, no wonder the film is
    nicknamed Nazi Germany 90210.

    Oh yeah, and the chick flying the ship dodging an asteroid coming in >>>>> FTL, yeah, these guys can't even spell science much less know any.


    And don't forget the complete and utter lack of powered battle armor,
    something the book is most famous for popularizing.

    "Starship Troopers" without powered armor is Star Wars without
    lightsabers. I mean, sure you _could_... but why?*

    In fairness, a lot of the other stuff mentioned above (the fascism,
    the shitty science, the psi stuff) was part and parcel of the book
    too, albeit not so central to the narrative. I'll forgive that... even >>>> if I didn't necessarily enjoy it. But the lack of powered armor?

    Actually the political stuff in the movie is almost the polar opposite
    of the book. Heinlein wrote a war story about service, as in western
    democracy type "service". The citizenship criteria in the book was
    _ANY_ kind of service. Being assigned as a park ranger planting trees
    was service and could grant citizenship. He strongly emphasized that
    non-citizens were not an underclass.

    The "Nazis BAAAAD!" parts of the movie were ALL Verhoeven, things that
    he added deliberately. He's admitted that in interviews.

    Ah. Someone needs to reboot Starship Troopers movies. Maybe a TV series instead?

    There was an animated series (have the DVDs) and a series of animated
    movies in addition to the two sequels to Verhoeven's movie.

    Four Sequels.

    Xocyll

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Xocyll on Tue Oct 22 07:30:32 2024
    On 10/22/2024 2:54 AM, Xocyll wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On 10/21/2024 1:11 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/21/2024 7:15 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 06:32:49 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the >>>>>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs >>>>>> say:
    On 10/20/2024 7:48 PM, Ant wrote:

    I like the movie. I don't like to read. :P

    The movie had been written and was already in pre-production when the >>>>>>> producers found out the movie rights to the book were for sale. So they
    bought those rights so they could use the book's title.
    No joke.

    Title and bolted on a few names from the book, and a couple of themes >>>>>> (the whole service thing.)

    But everything else was a mockery - assault rifles with an apparent >>>>>> range of 10 feet, forcing the soldiers to shoot point blank at something >>>>>> that can cut them in half with a swipe. Um yeah, sure.

    And the whole psi corp stuff in SS uniforms, no wonder the film is >>>>>> nicknamed Nazi Germany 90210.

    Oh yeah, and the chick flying the ship dodging an asteroid coming in >>>>>> FTL, yeah, these guys can't even spell science much less know any.


    And don't forget the complete and utter lack of powered battle armor, >>>>> something the book is most famous for popularizing.

    "Starship Troopers" without powered armor is Star Wars without
    lightsabers. I mean, sure you _could_... but why?*

    In fairness, a lot of the other stuff mentioned above (the fascism,
    the shitty science, the psi stuff) was part and parcel of the book
    too, albeit not so central to the narrative. I'll forgive that... even >>>>> if I didn't necessarily enjoy it. But the lack of powered armor?

    Actually the political stuff in the movie is almost the polar opposite >>>> of the book. Heinlein wrote a war story about service, as in western
    democracy type "service". The citizenship criteria in the book was
    _ANY_ kind of service. Being assigned as a park ranger planting trees >>>> was service and could grant citizenship. He strongly emphasized that
    non-citizens were not an underclass.

    The "Nazis BAAAAD!" parts of the movie were ALL Verhoeven, things that >>>> he added deliberately. He's admitted that in interviews.

    Ah. Someone needs to reboot Starship Troopers movies. Maybe a TV series instead?

    There was an animated series (have the DVDs) and a series of animated
    movies in addition to the two sequels to Verhoeven's movie.

    Four Sequels.

    Oh for fornication's sake. I've seen 2 and 3, when did 4 and 5 come out?

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Tue Oct 22 18:19:37 2024
    On 10/22/2024 2:27 PM, Justisaur wrote:
    On 10/22/2024 7:30 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 10/22/2024 2:54 AM, Xocyll wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On 10/21/2024 1:11 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Snip

    Ah. Someone needs to reboot Starship Troopers movies. Maybe a TV
    series instead?

    There was an animated series (have the DVDs) and a series of animated
    movies in addition to the two sequels to Verhoeven's movie.

    Four Sequels.

    Oh for fornication's sake.  I've seen 2 and 3, when did 4 and 5 come out? >>

    I don't think I've even seen 2 or 3.  I was a big fan of the book, I
    enjoyed the movie, but not so much to watch any of the others (I think)
    are they any good?

    2 and 3 are crap, even for direct to video. The director of #2 was the
    writer of #1 who played the criminal that got executed in it. #3 IIRC
    was the second DP of one of the prior ones. #3 was one of those "We'll
    just film it in complete darkness so no one will see that we didn't even
    have change dug up from the couch to finance it".

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Wed Oct 23 02:02:04 2024
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    ...
    I like the movie. I don't like to read. :P

    are the books too big :D

    No, too many words!

    Lazy ass ant.

    Well, I am a male alate. :P
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Ant on Wed Oct 23 04:10:04 2024
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 20:18 this Monday (GMT):
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    ...
    I am itching all over the place now! :-)

    Do I make you itch too? ;-)

    im not allergic to bugs

    Then, why were you itching all over the place earlier? :-P


    slime stuff idk
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Ant on Wed Oct 23 04:10:05 2024
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 02:02 this Wednesday (GMT):
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    ...
    I like the movie. I don't like to read. :P

    are the books too big :D

    No, too many words!

    Lazy ass ant.

    Well, I am a male alate. :P


    then why are u here :/
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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 23 04:01:23 2024
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On 10/22/2024 2:54 AM, Xocyll wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On 10/21/2024 1:11 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/21/2024 7:15 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 06:32:49 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the >>>>>>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs >>>>>>> say:
    On 10/20/2024 7:48 PM, Ant wrote:

    I like the movie. I don't like to read. :P

    The movie had been written and was already in pre-production when the >>>>>>>> producers found out the movie rights to the book were for sale. So they
    bought those rights so they could use the book's title.
    No joke.

    Title and bolted on a few names from the book, and a couple of themes >>>>>>> (the whole service thing.)

    But everything else was a mockery - assault rifles with an apparent >>>>>>> range of 10 feet, forcing the soldiers to shoot point blank at something
    that can cut them in half with a swipe. Um yeah, sure.

    And the whole psi corp stuff in SS uniforms, no wonder the film is >>>>>>> nicknamed Nazi Germany 90210.

    Oh yeah, and the chick flying the ship dodging an asteroid coming in >>>>>>> FTL, yeah, these guys can't even spell science much less know any. >>>>>>

    And don't forget the complete and utter lack of powered battle armor, >>>>>> something the book is most famous for popularizing.

    "Starship Troopers" without powered armor is Star Wars without
    lightsabers. I mean, sure you _could_... but why?*

    In fairness, a lot of the other stuff mentioned above (the fascism, >>>>>> the shitty science, the psi stuff) was part and parcel of the book >>>>>> too, albeit not so central to the narrative. I'll forgive that... even >>>>>> if I didn't necessarily enjoy it. But the lack of powered armor?

    Actually the political stuff in the movie is almost the polar opposite >>>>> of the book. Heinlein wrote a war story about service, as in western >>>>> democracy type "service". The citizenship criteria in the book was
    _ANY_ kind of service. Being assigned as a park ranger planting trees >>>>> was service and could grant citizenship. He strongly emphasized that >>>>> non-citizens were not an underclass.

    The "Nazis BAAAAD!" parts of the movie were ALL Verhoeven, things that >>>>> he added deliberately. He's admitted that in interviews.

    Ah. Someone needs to reboot Starship Troopers movies. Maybe a TV series instead?

    There was an animated series (have the DVDs) and a series of animated
    movies in addition to the two sequels to Verhoeven's movie.

    Four Sequels.

    Oh for fornication's sake. I've seen 2 and 3, when did 4 and 5 come out?

    The whole mess
    Starship troopers (1997)
    Starship Troopers 2: Hero of the Federation (2004 DTV)
    Starship Troopers 3: Marauder (2008 DTV)
    Starship Troopers: Invasion (2012 Animated)
    Starship Troopers: Traitor of Mars (2017 Animated)

    I have not seen 4 and 5, but 2 and 3 were dreck.

    Xocyll

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Xocyll on Wed Oct 23 07:54:12 2024
    On 10/23/2024 1:01 AM, Xocyll wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On 10/22/2024 2:54 AM, Xocyll wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On 10/21/2024 1:11 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/21/2024 7:15 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 06:32:49 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the >>>>>>>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs >>>>>>>> say:
    On 10/20/2024 7:48 PM, Ant wrote:

    I like the movie. I don't like to read. :P

    The movie had been written and was already in pre-production when the >>>>>>>>> producers found out the movie rights to the book were for sale. So they
    bought those rights so they could use the book's title.
    No joke.

    Title and bolted on a few names from the book, and a couple of themes >>>>>>>> (the whole service thing.)

    But everything else was a mockery - assault rifles with an apparent >>>>>>>> range of 10 feet, forcing the soldiers to shoot point blank at something
    that can cut them in half with a swipe. Um yeah, sure.

    And the whole psi corp stuff in SS uniforms, no wonder the film is >>>>>>>> nicknamed Nazi Germany 90210.

    Oh yeah, and the chick flying the ship dodging an asteroid coming in >>>>>>>> FTL, yeah, these guys can't even spell science much less know any. >>>>>>>

    And don't forget the complete and utter lack of powered battle armor, >>>>>>> something the book is most famous for popularizing.

    "Starship Troopers" without powered armor is Star Wars without
    lightsabers. I mean, sure you _could_... but why?*

    In fairness, a lot of the other stuff mentioned above (the fascism, >>>>>>> the shitty science, the psi stuff) was part and parcel of the book >>>>>>> too, albeit not so central to the narrative. I'll forgive that... even >>>>>>> if I didn't necessarily enjoy it. But the lack of powered armor? >>>>>>>
    Actually the political stuff in the movie is almost the polar opposite >>>>>> of the book. Heinlein wrote a war story about service, as in western >>>>>> democracy type "service". The citizenship criteria in the book was >>>>>> _ANY_ kind of service. Being assigned as a park ranger planting trees >>>>>> was service and could grant citizenship. He strongly emphasized that >>>>>> non-citizens were not an underclass.

    The "Nazis BAAAAD!" parts of the movie were ALL Verhoeven, things that >>>>>> he added deliberately. He's admitted that in interviews.

    Ah. Someone needs to reboot Starship Troopers movies. Maybe a TV series instead?

    There was an animated series (have the DVDs) and a series of animated
    movies in addition to the two sequels to Verhoeven's movie.

    Four Sequels.

    Oh for fornication's sake. I've seen 2 and 3, when did 4 and 5 come out?

    The whole mess
    Starship troopers (1997)
    Starship Troopers 2: Hero of the Federation (2004 DTV)
    Starship Troopers 3: Marauder (2008 DTV)
    Starship Troopers: Invasion (2012 Animated)
    Starship Troopers: Traitor of Mars (2017 Animated)

    I have not seen 4 and 5, but 2 and 3 were dreck.

    Ah, so 4 and 5 were the animated movies I mentioned. That makes me
    feel, slightly, better. I haven't seen those either.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to candycanearter07@candycanearter07.n on Wed Oct 23 23:13:40 2024
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 20:18 this Monday (GMT):
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: ...
    I am itching all over the place now! :-)

    Do I make you itch too? ;-)

    im not allergic to bugs

    Then, why were you itching all over the place earlier? :-P

    slime stuff idk

    You Can't Do That on Television, err Internet or newsgroups. ;)
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Ant on Wed Oct 23 18:12:57 2024
    On 10/23/2024 4:13 PM, Ant wrote:
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 20:18 this Monday (GMT):
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: >>> ...
    I am itching all over the place now! :-)

    Do I make you itch too? ;-)

    im not allergic to bugs

    Then, why were you itching all over the place earlier? :-P

    slime stuff idk

    You Can't Do That on Television, err Internet or newsgroups. ;)

    Plus the fact that the Kids Choice Awards routinely slimes their winners.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Thu Oct 24 02:14:06 2024
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/23/2024 4:13 PM, Ant wrote:
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 20:18 this Monday (GMT):
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: >>> ...
    I am itching all over the place now! :-)

    Do I make you itch too? ;-)

    im not allergic to bugs

    Then, why were you itching all over the place earlier? :-P

    slime stuff idk

    You Can't Do That on Television, err Internet or newsgroups. ;)

    Plus the fact that the Kids Choice Awards routinely slimes their winners.

    I don't remember that during the rad 80s.
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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 24 22:39:08 2024
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On 10/23/2024 4:13 PM, Ant wrote:
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: >>> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 20:18 this Monday (GMT):
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: >>>> ...
    I am itching all over the place now! :-)

    Do I make you itch too? ;-)

    im not allergic to bugs

    Then, why were you itching all over the place earlier? :-P

    slime stuff idk

    You Can't Do That on Television, err Internet or newsgroups. ;)

    Plus the fact that the Kids Choice Awards routinely slimes their winners.

    You'd think someone would wear a raincoat or bring an umbrella!

    I mean, you know your getting hit at one of those or a Gallagher shows,
    dress appropriately.

    Xocyll

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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 24 22:37:15 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 04:01:23 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:

    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the >>entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On 10/22/2024 2:54 AM, Xocyll wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On 10/21/2024 1:11 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/21/2024 7:15 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 06:32:49 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the >>>>>>>>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs >>>>>>>>> say:
    On 10/20/2024 7:48 PM, Ant wrote:

    I like the movie. I don't like to read. :P

    The movie had been written and was already in pre-production when the
    producers found out the movie rights to the book were for sale. So they
    bought those rights so they could use the book's title.
    No joke.

    Title and bolted on a few names from the book, and a couple of themes >>>>>>>>> (the whole service thing.)

    But everything else was a mockery - assault rifles with an apparent >>>>>>>>> range of 10 feet, forcing the soldiers to shoot point blank at something
    that can cut them in half with a swipe. Um yeah, sure.

    And the whole psi corp stuff in SS uniforms, no wonder the film is >>>>>>>>> nicknamed Nazi Germany 90210.

    Oh yeah, and the chick flying the ship dodging an asteroid coming in >>>>>>>>> FTL, yeah, these guys can't even spell science much less know any. >>>>>>>>

    And don't forget the complete and utter lack of powered battle armor, >>>>>>>> something the book is most famous for popularizing.

    "Starship Troopers" without powered armor is Star Wars without >>>>>>>> lightsabers. I mean, sure you _could_... but why?*

    In fairness, a lot of the other stuff mentioned above (the fascism, >>>>>>>> the shitty science, the psi stuff) was part and parcel of the book >>>>>>>> too, albeit not so central to the narrative. I'll forgive that... even >>>>>>>> if I didn't necessarily enjoy it. But the lack of powered armor? >>>>>>>>
    Actually the political stuff in the movie is almost the polar opposite >>>>>>> of the book. Heinlein wrote a war story about service, as in western >>>>>>> democracy type "service". The citizenship criteria in the book was >>>>>>> _ANY_ kind of service. Being assigned as a park ranger planting trees >>>>>>> was service and could grant citizenship. He strongly emphasized that >>>>>>> non-citizens were not an underclass.

    The "Nazis BAAAAD!" parts of the movie were ALL Verhoeven, things that >>>>>>> he added deliberately. He's admitted that in interviews.

    Ah. Someone needs to reboot Starship Troopers movies. Maybe a TV series instead?

    There was an animated series (have the DVDs) and a series of animated >>>>> movies in addition to the two sequels to Verhoeven's movie.

    Four Sequels.

    Oh for fornication's sake. I've seen 2 and 3, when did 4 and 5 come out?

    The whole mess
    Starship troopers (1997)
    Starship Troopers 2: Hero of the Federation (2004 DTV)
    Starship Troopers 3: Marauder (2008 DTV)
    Starship Troopers: Invasion (2012 Animated)
    Starship Troopers: Traitor of Mars (2017 Animated)

    I have not seen 4 and 5, but 2 and 3 were dreck.


    4 & 5 were pretty bad too, but because they were animated, I gave them
    more of a pass. They were more obviously aimed at the younger-set, so
    the shallow characters, story and dialogue seemed more appropriate.
    The visuals were okay.

    I wouldn't go out of my way to re-watch them, though. Frankly, the
    entire movie franchise is pretty terrible.

    (IMHO, obviously. It's all subjective. If you like the movies, good
    for you; I'm glad you had more fun with them than I did!)

    I read Heinlein's book 20+ years before the movie came out so I had more
    WTF's than popcorn watching it.

    Just objectively though, assault rifles with them getting point blank
    range made exactly zero sense, so enjoyment was simply not possible.

    And of course NO FUCKING POWER ARMOR!

    Xocyll

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Xocyll on Fri Oct 25 07:54:41 2024
    Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On 10/23/2024 4:13 PM, Ant wrote:
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: >>> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 20:18 this Monday (GMT):
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    ...
    I am itching all over the place now! :-)

    Do I make you itch too? ;-)

    im not allergic to bugs

    Then, why were you itching all over the place earlier? :-P

    slime stuff idk

    You Can't Do That on Television, err Internet or newsgroups. ;)

    Plus the fact that the Kids Choice Awards routinely slimes their winners.

    You'd think someone would wear a raincoat or bring an umbrella!

    I mean, you know your getting hit at one of those or a Gallagher shows,
    dress appropriately.

    I don't know. Aw crap!
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Ant on Fri Oct 25 14:20:03 2024
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 02:14 this Thursday (GMT):
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/23/2024 4:13 PM, Ant wrote:
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: >> >> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 20:18 this Monday (GMT):
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    ...
    I am itching all over the place now! :-)

    Do I make you itch too? ;-)

    im not allergic to bugs

    Then, why were you itching all over the place earlier? :-P

    slime stuff idk

    You Can't Do That on Television, err Internet or newsgroups. ;)

    Plus the fact that the Kids Choice Awards routinely slimes their winners.

    I don't remember that during the rad 80s.


    Well, I wasn't around for it.
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Wed Nov 6 01:52:20 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:12:02 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/

    And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce
    GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :( >Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better >hardwares. Ha! :P

    For people with both a bug-fetish AND an old-timey game fetish, the
    original "Empire of Ants" game (released back in 2000) is now on sale
    too.
    https://www.gog.com/en/game/empire_of_the_ants_2000

    From everything I've heard, the 2024 game is far superior but buy both
    and make the comparison for yourself. ;-)

    I got that first retail game for free from Microids back then. I don't
    remember how and why, but hey. Too bad they won't give me this one. :-P Anyways, I remember it being pretty, but it was boring compared to other
    RTS games! I'd rather replay SimAnt. :-P

    Did anyone play 2024 version yet?
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Nov 7 21:50:06 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 23:29 this Tuesday (GMT):
    For people with both a bug-fetish AND an old-timey game fetish, the

    Why would you word it like that
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