• Re: Remakes, remakes, remakes

    From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Tue Jan 14 20:47:32 2025
    On 14/01/2025 17:20, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    But I really miss new IPs. New ideas. It's great that we have the
    Indies (although they often only seem fresh because there's so MANY of
    them. Shall I count the number of Indie games that use the platformers-with-small-children-in-gruesome-danger-that-use-a- Chiaroscuro-art-style?. Indies are in a rut too) but I'd love to see
    the Big Names put all their talent and resources into something fresh
    rather than just rehashing old classics.

    Yep there's lot's of indie to mid games that are just rehashing the same formula but it's also the space where a lot of the innovation comes
    from. If you look at the big publishers how many games have they
    released in say the last five years that aren't either reuse of an IP or
    just reuse of an idea.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Jan 14 23:50:03 2025
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote at 20:47 this Tuesday (GMT):
    On 14/01/2025 17:20, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    But I really miss new IPs. New ideas. It's great that we have the
    Indies (although they often only seem fresh because there's so MANY of
    them. Shall I count the number of Indie games that use the
    platformers-with-small-children-in-gruesome-danger-that-use-a-
    Chiaroscuro-art-style?. Indies are in a rut too) but I'd love to see
    the Big Names put all their talent and resources into something fresh
    rather than just rehashing old classics.

    Yep there's lot's of indie to mid games that are just rehashing the same formula but it's also the space where a lot of the innovation comes
    from. If you look at the big publishers how many games have they
    released in say the last five years that aren't either reuse of an IP or
    just reuse of an idea.


    Yeah, I can't really think of a "new" series.
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  • From Rin Stowleigh@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Tue Jan 14 19:36:08 2025
    On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 12:20:20 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:


    Oh, yippee.

    I was just watching this, about how ray tracing's biggest use case is
    to spruce up older games:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8z-1Bqn4Rs

    If you want to know why everyone's still interested in older games and
    newer franchises are on the out, see other recent videos I posted
    about how DEI and related political bullshit screwed up gaming to the
    point that newer franchise ideas don't even have a remote chance of
    attracting developers talented enough to pull the execution of said
    game off.

    They need to stop making games under the assumption every gamer is a
    blue haired snow flake mentally ill fragile freak seeker of safe zones
    who would rather be Oprah Winfrey than Conan the Barbarian... or Conan
    the Talk Show Host for that matter.

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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 15 08:55:22 2025
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:


    Oh, yippee.

    Here's a (probably) incomplete list of remakes we can expect in the
    near future:

    Bubble Ghost Remake * Crazy Taxi * Croc: Legend of the
    Gobbos * Dragon Quest 1 HD-Remake * Dragon Quest 2 HD
    Remake * Front Mission 3 * Gothic * House of the Dead
    2: Remake * The Legend of Heroes: Trails of the Sky *
    Lunar: Remastered Collection (Lunar Silver Star & Lunar 2
    Eternal Blue) * Max Payne 1 Remaster * Max Payne 2
    Remaster * Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater * Operation
    Black Mesa (Half Life Opposing Force/Blue Shift) *
    Presentable Liberty Remake * Prince of Persia: The Sands
    of Time * Splinter Cell * Star Wars: Knights of the Old
    Republic * Suikoden I HD Remaster * Suikoden II HD
    Remaster * Tiny Dangerous Dungeons * Tomb Raider 4
    Remastered * Tomb Raider 5 Remastered * Tomb Raider 6
    Remastered * The Witcher Remake * Xenoblade Chronicles
    X: Definitive Edition * Yooka-Replayee

    Wait what? Rehashes of rehashes of the tomb raider games?

    WHO the fuck thought remaking AOD was a good idea, it was the death of
    the series, then they added QTE's to animate the corpse!

    1,2,3 are the only true Tomb Raider games - will ok chronicles wasn't
    horrid, but the rest are awful, and they're remaking awful into worse.

    ...and how are they going to fuck up KOTOR and Halflife?

    Xocyll

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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 15 08:57:28 2025
    Rin Stowleigh <rstowleigh@x-nospam-x.com> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 12:20:20 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson ><spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:


    Oh, yippee.

    I was just watching this, about how ray tracing's biggest use case is
    to spruce up older games:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8z-1Bqn4Rs

    If you want to know why everyone's still interested in older games and
    newer franchises are on the out, see other recent videos I posted
    about how DEI and related political bullshit screwed up gaming to the
    point that newer franchise ideas don't even have a remote chance of >attracting developers talented enough to pull the execution of said
    game off.

    They need to stop making games under the assumption every gamer is a
    blue haired snow flake mentally ill fragile freak seeker of safe zones
    who would rather be Oprah Winfrey than Conan the Barbarian... or Conan
    the Talk Show Host for that matter.

    Rin be honest, their new target audience hosts "The View", they are not
    gamers.

    Gaming is basically dead, but we'll still have all our old single player
    games, Until MS makes them impossible to play on whatever new Windows
    version they shit out.

    Xocyll

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  • From Bozo User@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Wed Jan 15 15:49:04 2025
    On 2025-01-14, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    Oh, yippee.

    Here's a (probably) incomplete list of remakes we can expect in the
    near future:

    Bubble Ghost Remake * Crazy Taxi * Croc: Legend of the
    Gobbos * Dragon Quest 1 HD-Remake * Dragon Quest 2 HD
    Remake * Front Mission 3 * Gothic * House of the Dead
    2: Remake * The Legend of Heroes: Trails of the Sky *
    Lunar: Remastered Collection (Lunar Silver Star & Lunar 2
    Eternal Blue) * Max Payne 1 Remaster * Max Payne 2
    Remaster * Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater * Operation
    Black Mesa (Half Life Opposing Force/Blue Shift) *
    Presentable Liberty Remake * Prince of Persia: The Sands
    of Time * Splinter Cell * Star Wars: Knights of the Old
    Republic * Suikoden I HD Remaster * Suikoden II HD
    Remaster * Tiny Dangerous Dungeons * Tomb Raider 4
    Remastered * Tomb Raider 5 Remastered * Tomb Raider 6
    Remastered * The Witcher Remake * Xenoblade Chronicles
    X: Definitive Edition * Yooka-Replayee


    I guess we only have ourselves to blame; we BOUGHT all the previous
    remakes the publishers vomited up, so we shouldn't be surprised if
    they're going whole-hog into the genre now.

    But I really miss new IPs. New ideas. It's great that we have the
    Indies (although they often only seem fresh because there's so MANY of
    them. Shall I count the number of Indie games that use the platformers-with-small-children-in-gruesome-danger-that-use-a- Chiaroscuro-art-style?. Indies are in a rut too) but I'd love to see
    the Big Names put all their talent and resources into something fresh
    rather than just rehashing old classics.

    But rehashes are what we get, I guess.

    Yay.








    Not remakes, but lots of games have open source/libre engine recreations
    at https://osgameclones.com , and for sure there are texture packs and additions for modern times.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 16 09:20:41 2025
    Look at the list the only one that interests me is Operation Black Mesa.
    I enjoyed, and have replayed more than once, both of the stand-alone
    expansions so to have versions where the graphics are given a revamp to
    more acceptable standards and best of all they are described as
    reimagining not just plain old remakes.

    If they can do as well as the team did for Black Mesa in looking at what
    did, and didn't, work in the originals and then create a game that still retains the essence of them while removing some of the problematic parts
    then it will be a buy from me.

    The downside, I don't see this coming anytime soon but I'll add it to my
    Steam wish list anyway.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Jan 17 00:30:03 2025
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 15:22 this Thursday (GMT):
    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 15:49:04 -0000 (UTC), Bozo User
    <anthk@disroot.org> wrote:

    On 2025-01-14, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    Oh, yippee.


    Not remakes, but lots of games have open source/libre engine recreations
    at https://osgameclones.com , and for sure there are texture packs and >>additions for modern times.


    I'm actually fine with these. These are fan-led recreations made out
    of love of the game. They aren't designed to prey on customer's
    nostalgia because they are less risky and expensive than creating
    something new. They tend to have a lot more respect for the source
    material too (even if its usually only because, limited as the modders
    are in resources, they /have/ to abide by the restrictions of the
    original material).

    I've a lot less respect when its a company with millions of dollars at
    its fingertip and the best they can do is rehash the same game time
    and time again. It's bad enough that the vast majority of games are
    sequels; remasters and reboots are even worse.

    TL;DR: I'll happily champion fan-remakes (Skyblivion, OpenTTD, etc.)
    even as I slam professionally created ones.


    Agreed, especially when the companies strike them down for no reason
    COUGH AM2R.
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  • From Anssi Saari@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sat Jan 18 00:41:30 2025
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    But rehashes are what we get, I guess.

    Yes. I think I'll like KOTOR and Max Payne 2.

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  • From rms@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 17 19:58:41 2025
    But rehashes are what we get, I guess.
    Yes. I think I'll like KOTOR and Max Payne 2.

    Yeah I'm ok with remasters/remakes at least to an extent. It brings the games to a new audiences, and I assume they simply provide work for devs,
    and help train new devs

    rms

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