• Re: Too many computers...

    From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sun Jan 19 10:56:28 2025
    On 1/19/2025 7:23 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Once a year (at least) I go through my collection of old PCs (and
    other devices), fire them up, make sure they're still running, update software as necessary (or possible. There's not a lot you can do with
    a Win95 machine with regards to updates these days ;-) and generally
    make sure my collection of obsolete junk isn't actually, irredeemably
    junk. It's time consuming and repetitive but (for certain types of
    strange personalities, at least) fun work.

    A lot of my older PCs, I don't really have much use for; I keep them
    around for the nostalgic joy they bring me. That old 1997 IBM Lenovo
    laptop is never going to be my main computer, but it's fun to use and
    is surprisingly responsive. Less so that ancient Dell Inspiron, that I
    keep around mostly because it is the sole archive of my ancient iTunes library that I'm too lazy to transfer.

    Still, it occurs to me that maybe its time to cull the herd. But its
    so hard to choose which computer gets sent to the slaughter-house
    (a.k.a., the parts bin). Not my cube-like i5-4670 desktop; I love its
    chassis and hot-swappable hard-drives too much. The MacBook 3? No,
    that's (nominally) just a loaner given to me so not really mine to
    scrap (Admittedly, it was loaned to me ten years ago and I'm pretty
    sure the owner has forgotten all about it, but still). The old Gateway desktop? But how could I? That's the back-up to my back-up server!

    Well, surely I could get rid of some of the mobile devices. That Palm
    Pilot with the screen that doesn't respond to touch; that can go,
    right? Oh, but I have such fond memories of using it as my MP3 player
    and it takes up almost no room in the closet; keeping it would make
    almost no difference. Maybe my first cell-phone... except it's a
    flip-phone Motorola; they don't make the like anymore! It's
    practically a historical artifact at this point!

    Well, those Tzumi Bluetooth headphones can definitely go. The battery
    is dead, they never were comfortable, I've no use for bluephone
    headphones anyway, and I've no nostalgic feeling whatsoever for the
    device. It's just a shame they're buried so deep in storage. I'd
    literally have to move furniture just to open the drawers where
    they're stored. It all feels like too much effort.

    Hmmm. This old plastic screw I just found at the bottom of the parts
    bin is broken, and I don't know what it goes to anyway. I'll toss
    that. Yeah. That's a good start. But for now, I'd better just put
    everything away so it doesn't look all messy. You know, just until I'm
    ready to really start getting rid of stuff. Tomorrow, maybe. Or next
    week. Next month surely. Definitely by next January, when I have to
    check all the PCs again. But it'll happen; count on it.

    In the meantime, maybe I should get rid of some of my computer games?
    ;-)

    Aren't some of those games the reason for keeping some of the old computers?

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Sun Jan 19 14:30:12 2025
    On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 10:23:30 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    In the meantime, maybe I should get rid of some of my computer games?
    ;-)

    Never. I still have all of my games going back to the C-64 days. The
    only games I ever owned and don't own anymore are my Atari 2600 games
    but I am not upset over them. Well, ok, I miss Adventure a little bit.
    That was my favorite game on the system.

    I did, however, get rid of all the extra computers, monitors and other
    assorted hardware crap I had lying around a number of years ago. I
    still don't regret that decision. As Dimensional Traveler pointed out,
    the games are the reason I kept those computers around. But then
    DosBox came along and I decided those computers and all the hardware
    for them weren't necessary anymore.

    The only old hardware I still have and use are my Roland SCC-1 and
    external midi modules.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Sun Jan 19 23:49:24 2025
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 10:23:30 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    In the meantime, maybe I should get rid of some of my computer games?
    ;-)

    Never. I still have all of my games going back to the C-64 days. The
    only games I ever owned and don't own anymore are my Atari 2600 games
    but I am not upset over them. Well, ok, I miss Adventure a little bit.
    That was my favorite game on the system.

    I did, however, get rid of all the extra computers, monitors and other assorted hardware crap I had lying around a number of years ago. I
    still don't regret that decision. As Dimensional Traveler pointed out,
    the games are the reason I kept those computers around. But then
    DosBox came along and I decided those computers and all the hardware
    for them weren't necessary anymore.

    The only old hardware I still have and use are my Roland SCC-1 and
    external midi modules.

    Now the question is: Do you all still use these old stuff? ;) I still
    use my old analog 3.5mm audio speakers, VGA, DVI, Belkin OmniCube KVM
    from Y2K (how in the world does it still work today?), PS/2 clicky
    keyboard and mouses, Casio Data Bank 150 calculator watch, etc. At
    least, those are still useful to me. :)

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sun Jan 19 23:43:33 2025
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 10:56:28 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    On 1/19/2025 7:23 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:



    In the meantime, maybe I should get rid of some of my computer games?
    ;-)

    Aren't some of those games the reason for keeping some of the old computers?

    Hey! Good point! And literally true; I built the WinXp and Win98SE
    computer solely because some games from that era just don't run -or
    don't run well- on modern operating systems and hardware.

    And, of course, if I keep those computers because I have those games,
    I obviously have to keep those games so I have something to RUN on
    those computers!

    I like this logic; it's so incredibly circular! Thank you! Six
    Internet Points to you!

    Do you even play old games?
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  • From Rin Stowleigh@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 19 19:47:36 2025
    lol.. going dumpster diving for old computers and then feeling
    compelled to request others invest time reading about why you have too
    many of them might warrant some self-reflection.

    I'm getting the impression you're handicapped or have some other
    reason that affords you the time to spend on things like that, and if
    that's the case godspeed but just know that's not most gamers.

    I saw a documentary once about some guy in the WWII era that had some
    sort of bunker he created on a property where he could hide away and
    peck at the typewriter and create lots of written shit that was
    important to him, under some sort of delusion someone would find it
    some day and be amazed and make it important to them. It didn't work
    out that way, his only claim to fame was pretty much people gawking at
    him for 5 mins over the Internet wondering what level of mental
    illness it takes to be that kind of fucktard, nobody actually cared to
    read all the meanderings he wrote.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Mon Jan 20 02:01:23 2025
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 1/19/2025 3:43 PM, Ant wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 10:56:28 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    On 1/19/2025 7:23 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:



    In the meantime, maybe I should get rid of some of my computer games? >>>> ;-)

    Aren't some of those games the reason for keeping some of the old computers?

    Hey! Good point! And literally true; I built the WinXp and Win98SE
    computer solely because some games from that era just don't run -or
    don't run well- on modern operating systems and hardware.

    And, of course, if I keep those computers because I have those games,
    I obviously have to keep those games so I have something to RUN on
    those computers!

    I like this logic; it's so incredibly circular! Thank you! Six
    Internet Points to you!

    Do you even play old games?

    Isn't The Number and his obsession with old computer hardware an "old
    game"? :P

    Isn't IRL a game too? :P
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Ant on Sun Jan 19 17:56:51 2025
    On 1/19/2025 3:43 PM, Ant wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 10:56:28 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    On 1/19/2025 7:23 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:



    In the meantime, maybe I should get rid of some of my computer games?
    ;-)

    Aren't some of those games the reason for keeping some of the old computers?

    Hey! Good point! And literally true; I built the WinXp and Win98SE
    computer solely because some games from that era just don't run -or
    don't run well- on modern operating systems and hardware.

    And, of course, if I keep those computers because I have those games,
    I obviously have to keep those games so I have something to RUN on
    those computers!

    I like this logic; it's so incredibly circular! Thank you! Six
    Internet Points to you!

    Do you even play old games?

    Isn't The Number and his obsession with old computer hardware an "old
    game"? :P

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Mon Jan 20 12:15:23 2025
    On 19/01/2025 15:23, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    Once a year (at least) I go through my collection of old PCs (and
    other devices), fire them up, make sure they're still running, update software as necessary (or possible. There's not a lot you can do with
    a Win95 machine with regards to updates these days 😉 and generally
    make sure my collection of obsolete junk isn't actually, irredeemably
    junk. It's time consuming and repetitive but (for certain types of
    strange personalities, at least) fun work.

    I've got some old tech. devices but not a single old PC. I think part of
    that is I was rather late to the PC, I think my first one was about 1996
    or something, and I just don't have the sense of nostalgia for things
    like DOS. The other part is that around 2000 was the last time that I
    actual bought a complete PC and now I just give it a refresh when I
    think it's needed which has become less and less as the games I play are
    far less demanding on even 'under performing' hardware than they used to be.

    I've got a stash a motherboards/CPU's/RAM from previous builds and I
    really don't know why I still keep them. Much the same as the various
    cables that I've accumulated over the years - who knows when a SCART
    cable may come in handy!

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Jan 24 00:23:55 2025
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 14:27:37 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com>
    wrote:


    I've still got a couple bookcases of D&D books and magazines, I couldn't >bear to let those go as I occasionally think I'll find some group to DM >them for, but it looks less and less likely as time goes on.

    I had to let go of my tabletop RPG books several moves back... and
    then expensively claw them back as PDFs. ;-)

    I actually don't regret getting rid of the hard-copies, but I do
    regret HOW I disposed of them: they went all of them to recycling. But
    this was long before tabletop gaming made any sort of resurgence, and
    the books themselves were considered valueless.

    Still, I wish I'd hung onto them in storage for a few more years. I'd
    still have gotten rid of them eventually, I think, but I could have
    sold them instead of tossing them.

    Hey, that's another reason for me to keep my Win95 box. That 3DFX card
    and Gravis Ultrasound have value! I'm not hoarding, I'm *investing*
    for the future! ;-P

    Values? Like how much? :-P Do my old used SB Audigy 2ZS, GeForce 8800 GT
    (512 MB of VRAM), etc. have high values? ;)



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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sat Jan 25 01:53:04 2025
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 00:23:55 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:


    Hey, that's another reason for me to keep my Win95 box. That 3DFX card
    and Gravis Ultrasound have value! I'm not hoarding, I'm *investing*
    for the future! ;-P

    Values? Like how much? :-P Do my old used SB Audigy 2ZS, GeForce 8800 GT >(512 MB of VRAM), etc. have high values? ;)

    Not yet. But hang on to 'em for another sixty years and you'll be able
    to resell them for half their original value! Two-thirds if they're Mint-In-Box!

    I don't have anything mint-in-box!


    Do it for the grandchildren! ;-)

    I doubt it! I will be a single virgin forever. :-P
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Sat Jan 25 02:03:12 2025
    Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 1/22/2025 7:09 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 14:27:37 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com>
    wrote:


    I've still got a couple bookcases of D&D books and magazines, I couldn't >> bear to let those go as I occasionally think I'll find some group to DM
    them for, but it looks less and less likely as time goes on.

    I had to let go of my tabletop RPG books several moves back... and
    then expensively claw them back as PDFs. ;-)

    I actually don't regret getting rid of the hard-copies, but I do
    regret HOW I disposed of them: they went all of them to recycling. But
    this was long before tabletop gaming made any sort of resurgence, and
    the books themselves were considered valueless.

    Oof. I did get rid of most of my 4e D&D books last move, but I sold
    them, surprisingly there was actually a reasonable market for them.

    Sold the PS2 and most of the games for it for cheap to a used console
    store, which I still somewhat regret.

    All the old PC games I didn't want, no one else did either (including
    the game store) so they ended up in the trash. I believe I listed them
    here too but had no inquirers.

    When I was working in a security company office, I used to put my
    unwanted computer games and others on a recycle/an etrash area so anyone
    could just take them for free before they were taken away. We also put
    other stuff there too like hardwares. Most of the stuff were broken
    (e.g., burned MacBook power plug) though though. Once in a while, there
    were good stuff! Like one time, I took an unopened external USR
    Sportster 56k dial-up modem! I tested it before taking it home! However,
    I never got to use it at home before I moved and never got the old
    school copper landline service again. I still have it in storage! I also
    saw old used mouses, clicky keyboards, etc. I took those to use in my
    cubicle and then home. It was so nice! I miss that place. Yesterday was
    hit my decade anniversary of being laid off from there. :(


    Still, I wish I'd hung onto them in storage for a few more years. I'd
    still have gotten rid of them eventually, I think, but I could have
    sold them instead of tossing them.

    Yes, some rarer books and stuff could be worth the time and at least
    they stay in circulation. Or drop them off for a pitance at a comic book
    or used book store.

    Selling them is tedious. I just don't bother unless I can sell them
    fast. I could give them away too.

    I wished we had (t(ele/rans)porter/portal)s to easy go to places easily
    and quickly. We could have our own place to get rid of stuff! :P
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Ant on Mon Feb 17 20:10:03 2025
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 23:49 this Sunday (GMT):
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 10:23:30 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson
    <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    In the meantime, maybe I should get rid of some of my computer games?
    ;-)

    Never. I still have all of my games going back to the C-64 days. The
    only games I ever owned and don't own anymore are my Atari 2600 games
    but I am not upset over them. Well, ok, I miss Adventure a little bit.
    That was my favorite game on the system.

    I did, however, get rid of all the extra computers, monitors and other
    assorted hardware crap I had lying around a number of years ago. I
    still don't regret that decision. As Dimensional Traveler pointed out,
    the games are the reason I kept those computers around. But then
    DosBox came along and I decided those computers and all the hardware
    for them weren't necessary anymore.

    The only old hardware I still have and use are my Roland SCC-1 and
    external midi modules.

    Now the question is: Do you all still use these old stuff? ;) I still
    use my old analog 3.5mm audio speakers, VGA, DVI, Belkin OmniCube KVM
    from Y2K (how in the world does it still work today?), PS/2 clicky
    keyboard and mouses, Casio Data Bank 150 calculator watch, etc. At
    least, those are still useful to me. :)


    Oh man, I used to wear one of those calculator watches. I still
    technically have it, but the battery has long ceased to work.
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