I watched a reaction video to Nintendo Direct in April, and was not
impressed with the new offering. Primarily because it looks like they're
making a bunch of cash grabs "enhancing" games you already have on the
original Switch as a replacement for actual launch titles.

In the expansion pack, the GameCube game selection looks very limited,
and Rogue Leader is not part of the launch.

They showed ports of stuff like Cyberpunk 2077 and Elden Ring, but I'm
pretty sure it wasn't the Switch 2 running the demo vids, and I'll bet it
looks like ass when you actually see it on the Switch 2. (I made the
mistake of buying Outer Worlds on the original Switch).

The new "killer feature" that they were excited to share is the "C"
button! It lets you do voice chat! It also lets you do video chat! If you
buy a camera! For more bucks!

Social and game chat is still limited to the Nintendo policy of "no
randos." They explicitly described it as an "experience you could share
with family and friends." I hope the feature includes an easy way to make
new friends on-line, since you *can* actually game with randos.

Also, the camera had some interesting features, like it showed little
thought bubbles over players with people's faces looking forward. I'm
sure everyone will play games staring right into the camera. They also introduced some Kinect-like full body stuff, again with everyone
perfectly facing the camera, which the reaction video joked about. "It's
the Kinect again!"

Ooh! And the new joy-cons can be used face-down as a mouse for shooters
and Civ and stuff. You know, on your knee I guess, since no-one has
mousing space on their sofa. They hyped some wheelchair basketball game
where you continuously have to roll both controllers forward; I guess on
your couch cushion. Nintendo loves to innovate new game controls, but
this one seems like they felt it was obilgatory. It is not well thought
out.

So all it has going for it rn, IMO, is Mario Kart World, now with "open
world" game play? That and a future Metroid: Prime 4 release that
apparently has a mouse controls mode. That's right: Prime with a mouse. Everything else on launch is "Now you can play Breath of the Wild with
HDR! If you fork over some more cash!"

And... not fully backwards compatible. I think this notable caveat is
because there is a lot of shovelware for the Switch, and how could
Nintendo guarantee that everything will run? I bet most of the important
stuff does.

Anyone buying this at launch? What's your opinion of the new console?
It's feeling like Wii-U redux to me, though I'll probably eventually get
one for the bigger screen.

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On 02/06/2025 18:08, Zaghadka wrote:

I watched a reaction video to Nintendo Direct in April, and was not
impressed with the new offering. Primarily because it looks like they're making a bunch of cash grabs "enhancing" games you already have on the original Switch as a replacement for actual launch titles.

<snip>

The big stumbling block for me is I don't enjoy gaming on the go so if
we go on a long journey my time is spent looking out the window, reading
a book and just some aimless browsing. I do have some games on my iPad
and they all have one thing in common, you can play them in sessions of 10-20mins. Any longer than that and my attention just starts to wander.

The only handheld I really considered was the Steam Deck but it would be
pretty stupid to spend that much money for something that will end up in
a draw six months later.

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Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote at 17:08 this Monday (GMT):

I watched a reaction video to Nintendo Direct in April, and was not
impressed with the new offering. Primarily because it looks like they're making a bunch of cash grabs "enhancing" games you already have on the original Switch as a replacement for actual launch titles.

In the expansion pack, the GameCube game selection looks very limited,
and Rogue Leader is not part of the launch.

Of course it is..

They showed ports of stuff like Cyberpunk 2077 and Elden Ring, but I'm
pretty sure it wasn't the Switch 2 running the demo vids, and I'll bet it looks like ass when you actually see it on the Switch 2. (I made the
mistake of buying Outer Worlds on the original Switch).

The new "killer feature" that they were excited to share is the "C"
button! It lets you do voice chat! It also lets you do video chat! If you
buy a camera! For more bucks!

Social and game chat is still limited to the Nintendo policy of "no
randos." They explicitly described it as an "experience you could share
with family and friends." I hope the feature includes an easy way to make
new friends on-line, since you *can* actually game with randos.

Also, the camera had some interesting features, like it showed little
thought bubbles over players with people's faces looking forward. I'm
sure everyone will play games staring right into the camera. They also introduced some Kinect-like full body stuff, again with everyone
perfectly facing the camera, which the reaction video joked about. "It's
the Kinect again!"

TBH, I did like the kinect when it came out, but hopefully its not
forced into every game like the kinect was.

Ooh! And the new joy-cons can be used face-down as a mouse for shooters
and Civ and stuff. You know, on your knee I guess, since no-one has
mousing space on their sofa. They hyped some wheelchair basketball game
where you continuously have to roll both controllers forward; I guess on
your couch cushion. Nintendo loves to innovate new game controls, but
this one seems like they felt it was obilgatory. It is not well thought
out.

Having a computer mouse will definitely be nice for some computer sim
games.

So all it has going for it rn, IMO, is Mario Kart World, now with "open world" game play? That and a future Metroid: Prime 4 release that
apparently has a mouse controls mode. That's right: Prime with a mouse. Everything else on launch is "Now you can play Breath of the Wild with
HDR! If you fork over some more cash!"

And... not fully backwards compatible. I think this notable caveat is
because there is a lot of shovelware for the Switch, and how could
Nintendo guarantee that everything will run? I bet most of the important stuff does.

Anyone buying this at launch? What's your opinion of the new console?
It's feeling like Wii-U redux to me, though I'll probably eventually get
one for the bigger screen.

I guess the theory of every other nintendo console being bad continues (gamecube bad, wii good, wii u bad, switch good, switch 2 bad)
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Am 04.06.25 um 16:29 schrieb Spalls Hurgenson:

And the Gamecube was bad? It might not have sold as well as people
would have liked, but it had good games and good tech.

The Wii-U is one of my favorite Nintendo consoles, it had such an
excellent overlooked lineup. Nintendo always does their best games when
their console is failing!

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On Wed, 04 Jun 2025 10:29:28 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 13:10:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 ><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

I guess the theory of every other nintendo console being bad continues >>(gamecube bad, wii good, wii u bad, switch good, switch 2 bad)

I'm not sure your profile holds up:

NES good, SNES good, N64 good.
GB good, GBC good, GBA good.
(not familiar enough with the DS line to make comparisons)

I think the Internet is conflating this with the "every other Windows" or "every other Trek movie" curse, which are firmly established patterns.
But there is an emerging pattern which started with perceptions of the
Gamecube and solidified itself with the Wii-U, truly the Windows 8 of
consoles. It may firmly establish itself if Switch 2 is deemed "unclean."

Ngl, "every other" patterns are just hawt. I appreciate the enthusiasm
for them candycane! It's just that I require three iterations before I
would consider it a real pattern.*

And the Gamecube was bad? It might not have sold as well as people
would have liked, but it had good games and good tech.

I agree with you. My Gamecube experience was awesome, and the controller
was amazing and critically acclaimed as such.

But it was overshadowed in popularity by the other entries, had a lower capacity game disc requiring disc swapping for larger titles, and there
was a reasonable expectation of higher-powered graphics. To those
critical of it, it is the start of the pattern (Gamecube: Bad). In
particular, N64 players were pissed that PS1 was a disc system, and the
much anticipated answer to N64 cartridges was miniDVD (ffs).

It's a reasonable argument, given the Moore's Law-based exponential
trends in console history at the time. Alongside the PS2 and the original X-box, it had the weakest tech of the three. Nintendo had dared to opt
for lower tech (and thus not selling hardware at a loss).

But it's unfair. The complaints continued with Wii. "You are playing with
an underpowered toy." "After I got over the motion controls gimmick, my
Wii is collecting dust." "The Wii is two Gamecubes strapped together with
duct tape." etc. Hardcore gamers *did not like* a company opting out of
the graphics race. That was the original sin.

The Switch, imo, put the nail in the coffins of "people who don't get
it." Only the most chauvinistic of hardcore gamers still whine about the Switch's specs, even as they snub its "casual gamers."

So for modern consoles we have GC (bad), Wii (good), Wii-U (bad), Switch (good), and Switch 2 (???-PROFIT!). It's an evolving pattern. If the
Switch 2 is deemed "bad" then it is /definitely/ a pattern.**

I say that the Nintendo console line has become hybrid, but it's still a console at its heart. The handheld line has been pruned and subsumed by
the console line. The lower graphics capacity is a deliberate choice
going back to the Gamecube, not a handheld compromise. Nintendo let XBox
and PS2 have that market, and they were right, given their unwillingness
to sell hardware at a loss. The lower specs therefore /enable/ it to be a handheld, so why make distinct handhelds?***

To get back to the OP, IMO, the Switch 2 is not bad, it's just a very underwhelming launch, and a system I won't be interested in for a while. There's no compelling feature I'm hyped about. I'm especially pissed
about them selling "game enhancements" as if they're launch titles. At
the price of the thing, those should be free, imo. I spend $500? Yeah, I
get BoTW in HDR as a perk, not a purchase.

. . .

Epilogue:

I see a lot of reactions here of "I wouldn't buy a handheld." The Switch
really shines in its dock. However, it's cool to be able to play Zelda:
BoTW on a long flight, or while waiting for an oil change. Really cool.

So while others may consider it a portable, mine is almost always in its
dock, with a Pro Controller. Handheld is a perk, not it's purpose.
Joycons are replaceable with a robust, sofa-worthy controller.

In other news: The reaction video did suggest a rumor that you might be
able to use your Switch 1 as a Wii-U style controller for your Switch 2
in a future system update. That might be interesting? Or it might be more
Wii-U that no one wants...

I prefer "wait and see" before I drop a packet on it. I leave the tea
leaves to you.****

--
Zag

What's the point of growing up
if you can't be childish sometimes? ...Terrance Dicks, BBC ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````

* Windows: 3.0 suck, 3.1(1) good, 95 suck, 98 good (98SE better), "Me"
suck, XP good, Vista suck, 7 good, 8 WTF?!, 10 good, 11 suck. Now
/that's/ a pattern! I don't agree with "11 suck." I like 11.

** I wouldn't include the handheld lineage in the pattern, Spalls. It's a different Nintendo track that ended in dual-screen handhelds, and 3d...
again (WHY Nintendo?). It was highly successful in every iteration, with
maybe a little grousing about the Advance not having a much-needed
backlight.

*** Probably to drive docked 4k, the Switch 2 dock has a cooling fan, and
that could be a "very bad" sign if portable mode has heat problems. Keep
your eye on heat dissipation/uncomfortable to the touch/overheat slowdown
when you read about it. There could be a RRoD episode brewing here.

**** Personally, after writing this, I am starting to see "The Grim."

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On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 18:34:17 +0200, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Werner P. wrote:

Am 04.06.25 um 16:29 schrieb Spalls Hurgenson:

And the Gamecube was bad? It might not have sold as well as people
would have liked, but it had good games and good tech.

The Wii-U is one of my favorite Nintendo consoles, it had such an
excellent overlooked lineup. Nintendo always does their best games when
their console is failing!

That is truly odd to me. My friend had one, and I couldn't stand the
stock controller, and it's ability to "run" Arkham Asylum worse than
anything I had ever seen.

The best thing I saw it run was Wind Waker HD.

Which titles are you referring to?

--
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What's the point of growing up
if you can't be childish sometimes? ...Terrance Dicks, BBC

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Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 13:10:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 ><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

TBH, I did like the kinect when it came out, but hopefully its not
forced into every game like the kinect was.

Tee-hee. I had the Kinect too. AND "Star Wars Kinect." And yes, there
was much flailing about with invisible lightsabers and embarrassingly >terrible dancing in the house because of that combination. ;-)

Sith Sith Revolution?

Xocyll
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Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

On Wed, 04 Jun 2025 17:06:45 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the >>entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

Tee-hee. I had the Kinect too. AND "Star Wars Kinect." And yes, there
was much flailing about with invisible lightsabers and embarrassingly >>>terrible dancing in the house because of that combination. ;-)

Sith Sith Revolution?

The game had some memorable interpretations of popular* songs, such as >"Empire Today" (riffing off the Village People's "Y.M.C.A."),
"Princess in a Battle" (based on Aguilera's "Genie in a Bottle", and
perhaps most infamously "Han Solo" (off of "Ridin' Solo" by Jason
Derulo.

"I'm puttin' on my shades to cover up my eyes
I'm jumpin' in my ride, I'm headin' out tonight
I'm Solo, I'm Han Solo
I'm Han Solo, I'm Han Solo, Solo
I'm pickin' up my blaster, puttin' it on my side
I'm jumpin' in my Falcon, Wookiee at my side
I'm Solo, I'm Han Solo"

If you haven't seen any of these, it's worth witnessing just how awful
they really are by watching some of them on YouTube. The songs are
/artful/ in their terribleness. ;-)

I may investigate. Obviously they needed to consult Weird Al.

* the word 'popular' is pulling a lot of weight here ;-)

Popular has never meant good.

Xocyll
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On Thu, 05 Jun 2025 11:46:47 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

On Wed, 04 Jun 2025 12:12:29 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
wrote:

I see a lot of reactions here of "I wouldn't buy a handheld." The Switch >>really shines in its dock. However, it's cool to be able to play Zelda: >>BoTW on a long flight, or while waiting for an oil change. Really cool.

So while others may consider it a portable, mine is almost always in its >>dock, with a Pro Controller. Handheld is a perk, not it's purpose.
Joycons are replaceable with a robust, sofa-worthy controller.

Except its portability is the Switch/Switch2's biggest gimmick.
Stripped of that, why wouldn't you just buy a Playstation if you're in
the market for a console? Admittedly, it's a subjective opinion, but
the Playstation has the better games as far as I'm concerned, and
-more objectively- it has more games, nicer graphics and tech and much
better controls. I tried those joycon things and --not having the
hands of a five-year old-- found them far less comfortable than a
gamepad. And I already hate gamepads ;-)

I have a PC for that.

And I don't care about PS/XBox exclusives. I do care about Nintendo's.

IMO, Nintendo Switch is the only console experience that distinguishes
itself from the PC, and does it's own thing. That's why I own it. It's a different experience. So was the Wii. I've heard hardcore gamers make
this argument so many times, and the only answer I can come up with is
"Either you don't like it, or don't get it, and perhaps you don't like it because you never tried to get it."

For the experience you describe, I'm building a PC. I would never buy an X-Box/Playstation. It's redundant. The PC has everything about them that matters to me with more and better control options. Those platforms are
for COD bros or EA Sports junkies afaic.

I get it. The Nintendo ecosystem doesn't appeal to you, but I really like
Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Zelda, and Metroid. So I do care about Nintendo exclusives, and they are designed (and properly played) with a joypad in
mind, and they are fun. It's a totally different experience.

So It's not about "better," it's about variety for me. "Different."
Nintendo makes consoles, and they used to make handhelds. The Switch is a console that has the added feature that it is a very robust handheld. No
need to make handhelds any more.

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Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> writes:

Anyone buying this at launch? What's your opinion of the new console?
It's feeling like Wii-U redux to me, though I'll probably eventually get
one for the bigger screen.

Hardly interesting and seems like there's an extra high price here
in my country too. Apprently it has its fans though.

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On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 15:25:24 +0200, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, H1M3M wrote:

Zaghadka wrote:

Anyone buying this at launch? What's your opinion of the new
console? It's feeling like Wii-U redux to me, though I'll probably
eventually get one for the bigger screen.

I was planning on getting it, until I saw the european price, the launch >games and got to read the EULA. Instead I got a new 35mm camera.

The US price comes out to about €395. What are they actually selling it
for?

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On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 08:36:09 +0300, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Anssi Saari wrote:

Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> writes:

Anyone buying this at launch? What's your opinion of the new console?
It's feeling like Wii-U redux to me, though I'll probably eventually get
one for the bigger screen.

Hardly interesting and seems like there's an extra high price here
in my country too. Apprently it has its fans though.

It launched at 450USD here. About €395 rn in the EU, unless they're
gouging?

I'm curious if that's what happened.

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On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 15:25:24 +0200, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, H1M3M wrote:

Am I excited? Yes, but not for the console until the price goes down or >Splatoon 4 comes out. I'm just here hoping to see brawls on the stores, >people having meltdowns when they find out bad stuff they were not
expecting, and pro-nintendo vs anti-nintendo trolls flinging feces at
each other like monkeys in a Team Fortress 2 map.

I can make some popcorn and come over to your house, if you like.

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On 6/6/2025 10:34 AM, Zaghadka wrote:

On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 08:36:09 +0300, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Anssi Saari wrote:

Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> writes:

Anyone buying this at launch? What's your opinion of the new console?
It's feeling like Wii-U redux to me, though I'll probably eventually get >>> one for the bigger screen.

Hardly interesting and seems like there's an extra high price here
in my country too. Apprently it has its fans though.

It launched at 450USD here. About €395 rn in the EU, unless they're gouging?

Does that $450 include the tariffs? :P

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On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 17:36:06 -0700, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 6/6/2025 10:34 AM, Zaghadka wrote:

On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 08:36:09 +0300, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Anssi Saari wrote:

Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> writes:

Anyone buying this at launch? What's your opinion of the new console?
It's feeling like Wii-U redux to me, though I'll probably eventually get >>>> one for the bigger screen.

Hardly interesting and seems like there's an extra high price here
in my country too. Apprently it has its fans though.

It launched at 450USD here. About €395 rn in the EU, unless they're
gouging?

Does that $450 include the tariffs? :P

Yes. I have no idea how, but yes. I think the planned launch was $399.

--
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Am 06.06.25 um 01:25 schrieb Zaghadka:

IMO, Nintendo Switch is the only console experience that distinguishes
itself from the PC, and does it's own thing. That's why I own it.

As a Steam Deck owner, I beg to differ :-D

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Am 04.06.25 um 19:32 schrieb Zaghadka:

On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 18:34:17 +0200, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Werner P. wrote:

Am 04.06.25 um 16:29 schrieb Spalls Hurgenson:

And the Gamecube was bad? It might not have sold as well as people
would have liked, but it had good games and good tech.

The Wii-U is one of my favorite Nintendo consoles, it had such an
excellent overlooked lineup. Nintendo always does their best games when
their console is failing!

That is truly odd to me. My friend had one, and I couldn't stand the
stock controller, and it's ability to "run" Arkham Asylum worse than
anything I had ever seen.

The best thing I saw it run was Wind Waker HD.

Which titles are you referring to?

Pretty much most first party titles, and titles like Wonderful 101!
I never had a problem with the stock controller, I loved it!
Arkham Asylum is a bad example, it never was programmed for the Wii-U
more or less just a lazy port!

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On Sat, 7 Jun 2025 10:00:16 +0200, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Werner P. wrote:

Am 06.06.25 um 01:25 schrieb Zaghadka:

IMO, Nintendo Switch is the only console experience that distinguishes
itself from the PC, and does it's own thing. That's why I own it.

As a Steam Deck owner, I beg to differ :-D

Isn't that portable PC gaming? It looks like a great handheld, but I
never considered it a console. It really is specifically a handheld.

I'm probably just willfully ignoring your winkie, though.

Just to be clear - again, willfuly ignoring any extraneous emoticons -
the point I was making is Nintendo abandoned the _console_ orthodoxy to
carve out its own niche, and it turned out there are (perhaps?) more
gamers there. It's a console experience different from any other, and it
turns a tidy profit. People are still nuts for their IP, even if some of
us see it as a tired retread. My 7-yo nephew is learning about Mario's
world as I type this.

Nintendo does their own thing, take it or leave it, dancing to their own
unique tune.

I have considered a Deck, but my research says the battery life would
frustrate me. I also don't do enough handheld gaming to justify the price point. But at least it would be a step out of the Windows ecosystem. I'd
like to give booting into a Proton OS on a desktop a spin.

--
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On Sat, 7 Jun 2025 09:59:14 +0200, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Werner P. wrote:

Am 04.06.25 um 19:32 schrieb Zaghadka:

On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 18:34:17 +0200, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Werner P. wrote:

Am 04.06.25 um 16:29 schrieb Spalls Hurgenson:

And the Gamecube was bad? It might not have sold as well as people
would have liked, but it had good games and good tech.

The Wii-U is one of my favorite Nintendo consoles, it had such an
excellent overlooked lineup. Nintendo always does their best games when
their console is failing!

That is truly odd to me. My friend had one, and I couldn't stand the
stock controller, and it's ability to "run" Arkham Asylum worse than
anything I had ever seen.

The best thing I saw it run was Wind Waker HD.

Which titles are you referring to?

Pretty much most first party titles, and titles like Wonderful 101!
I never had a problem with the stock controller, I loved it!
Arkham Asylum is a bad example, it never was programmed for the Wii-U
more or less just a lazy port!

Nintendo does ace their own titles. They understand their hardware, and
they always have a plan for how to use it to the best of its ability.

I'm glad you enjoyed yours. I'm gonna go look up Wonderful 101! now.

--
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Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> writes:

It launched at 450USD here. About ¤395 rn in the EU, unless they're
gouging?

They are. 570¤ in Finland with the extra gouging and it's actually more expensive than the cheapest PS5. 470¤ is common in more central
Europe. At least there's no attempt at region locking so I could order
from Germany or something if I were in the market.

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