• Re: One Launcher to Rule Them All

    From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Tue Jun 24 17:30:07 2025
    On 6/24/2025 2:20 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    So, Microsoft is trying something new.

    I'm out!

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Wed Jun 25 09:33:37 2025
    On 24/06/2025 22:20, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    Will it work? I'm guessing probably not. It's obviously a shot across
    the bow at Steam, trying to dislodge Valve's near-monopoly on PC
    gaming. But it again makes the mistake of thinking that the reason for Steam's success is because it's just a great way to LAUNCH your games,
    when Steam offers so much more. And not having to (manually) launch a
    second client for those few non-steam games is probably not enough
    reason to give up the advantages of using Steam. So I don't see this
    attempt having much more success than Epic Game Store, GOG galaxy or
    other third-party clients like Playnite.

    From a personal point of view I tend to agree as launching games is
    just not what I use Steam for. That's where desktop short cuts come into
    play.

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Wed Jun 25 10:51:03 2025
    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 17:20:37 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:


    So, Microsoft is trying something new.

    Well, not really new. They're updating their "XBox" app (for Windows
    and mobile) so it will have an 'aggregated gaming library' that
    includes games from multiple platforms, including Steam, Epic Games, >Battle.Net, and their own XBox and GamePass services.* The goal is to
    create a single destination from which you launch all your games; a >destination which just happens to be associated with Microsoft's own
    store and services, giving them easier access to your pocketbook and
    data.

    No way am I giving Microsoft any information regarding my other gaming
    CDN apps. Not even a web address to a public profile.

    Otherwise, I'd try it, but I already use Galaxy for my Epic catalog.
    Between that and Steam, I'm pretty much covered. I don't have any EA
    installed rn.

    After what you posted in another group, Connect is now entirely off my
    machine and I will not play anything on it.

    I can live without FarCry.

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    Zag

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Jun 26 16:40:14 2025
    On 6/26/2025 8:51 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 17:20:37 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:


    So, Microsoft is trying something new.

    Speaking of game launchers
    (and not wanting to start a new thread for these news tidbits)


    For those of you on Steam Deck (I think we have a few people here who
    have the device), the "Heroic Game Launcher" gives you access to your
    GOG, Epic and Amazon libraries on the device. How well it works I've
    no idea; is it just a launcher or does it apply necessary shims to
    install and play the games? It's not only for SteamDeck, so if you
    want to try it on PC that works too. So Microsoft's got some
    competition. Which do you trust less; some weird open source program
    you can download off the Internet, or Microsoft's app? ;-) https://heroicgameslauncher.com/



    Meanwhile, Epic got smacked hard for how shitty they made their own
    launcher. Well, not so much the launching games part of it, but the
    ways they used dark patterns to get people to make unintended
    purchases (and for locking accounts of people who disputed the
    charges). They're paying a $245 million USD fine to reimburse
    customers (you've got until early July to submit a claim if you think
    you're one of the victims they've fleeced!). Of course, most of these
    crimes go unreported, so I'm sure the amount Epic is paying out is far
    less than how much they took in. Something's got to pay for all those freebies we get! https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2025/06/ftc-sends-126-million-refunds-fortnite-players-who-were-charged-unwanted-items-reopens-claims


    Launchers, launchers everywhere... nor any games I wanna launch. ;-)

    Not even a game of solitaire?

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Jun 27 06:10:07 2025
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 15:39 this Wednesday (GMT):
    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 09:33:37 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    On 24/06/2025 22:20, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    Will it work? I'm guessing probably not. It's obviously a shot across
    the bow at Steam, trying to dislodge Valve's near-monopoly on PC
    gaming. But it again makes the mistake of thinking that the reason for
    Steam's success is because it's just a great way to LAUNCH your games,
    when Steam offers so much more. And not having to (manually) launch a
    second client for those few non-steam games is probably not enough
    reason to give up the advantages of using Steam. So I don't see this
    attempt having much more success than Epic Game Store, GOG galaxy or
    other third-party clients like Playnite.

    From a personal point of view I tend to agree as launching games is
    just not what I use Steam for. That's where desktop short cuts come into >>play.

    I actually use Steam for launching (I hate desktop clutter so
    shortcuts to launch the game aren't welcome ;-). But it's not the
    primary reason I rely on Steam. Its discussion groups are useful. It's workshop is useful. It's store-pages are a hell of a lot more useful
    and informative than on pretty much any other platform (GOG comes
    close).

    I launch games from Steam because Steam is useful. Other launchers
    will need to offer more than just "all the libraries in one place" to
    make me consider alternatives (especially since I already have one
    that does that: Playnite... and I /still/ use Steam).


    Steam in general just feels pretty good to use, I think. I personally
    feel like just putting games you like as desktop shortcuts is just fine
    for me, tho.
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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Jun 27 09:10:02 2025
    On 25/06/2025 16:39, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    From a personal point of view I tend to agree as launching games is
    just not what I use Steam for. That's where desktop short cuts come into
    play.
    I actually use Steam for launching (I hate desktop clutter so
    shortcuts to launch the game aren't welcome 😉. But it's not the
    primary reason I rely on Steam. Its discussion groups are useful. It's workshop is useful. It's store-pages are a hell of a lot more useful
    and informative than on pretty much any other platform (GOG comes
    close).

    I launch games from Steam because Steam is useful. Other launchers
    will need to offer more than just "all the libraries in one place" to
    make me consider alternatives (especially since I already have one
    that does that: Playnite... and I/still/ use Steam).

    The other thing I like about Steam is they do seem to have this attitude
    of continued improvement to the whole experience. The FPS display they
    turned into a Performance display - it's not something I'm interested in
    but it's nice to see features like this added that are more than just
    this will directly make us money.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Jun 27 09:15:41 2025
    On 26/06/2025 16:51, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    Meanwhile, Epic got smacked hard for how shitty they made their own
    launcher. Well, not so much the launching games part of it, but the
    ways they used dark patterns to get people to make unintended
    purchases (and for locking accounts of people who disputed the
    charges). They're paying a $245 million USD fine to reimburse
    customers (you've got until early July to submit a claim if you think
    you're one of the victims they've fleeced!). Of course, most of these
    crimes go unreported, so I'm sure the amount Epic is paying out is far
    less than how much they took in. Something's got to pay for all those freebies we get! https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2025/06/ftc- sends-126-million-refunds-fortnite-players-who-were-charged-unwanted- items-reopens-claims

    I really wish we could go back to the good old days (rose tinted glasses
    on) where the whole thing was trying to gives customers a good experience/product so they were more than happy to part with their
    money. I'm old fashioned like that I know.

    Now it feels like everything has to be about duping customers to get
    their wallets open.

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