Time to openly mooch off of somebody else's hard work! There's an
article on GameSpot* that lists the top selling games of 2025 (so far)
and I thought it might make an interesting starting point to a
discussion.
To save you from actually having to click a link, I'll just link the
games here:
1) Monster Hunter Wilds
2) Oblivion Remastered
3) College Football 26
3) Assassin's Creed Shadows
4) Call of Duty: Black Ops 6
5) MLB The Show 25
6) Kingdom Come Deliverance 2
7) WWE 2K25
8) Elden Ring Nightreign
9) Split Fiction
10) NBA 2K25
11) Forza Horizon 5
12) EA Sports MVP Bundle
13) Minecraft
14) Civilization VII
15) Grand Theft Auto V
16) PGA Tour 2K25
17) Doom: The Dark Ages
18) EA Sports FC 25
19) Red Dead Redemption 2
20) Donkey Kong Bananza
So, looking at the list, here are some of my thoughts:
First of all, yes, I know there are two #3s, and no, I don't know why
either (a tie maybe? The article doesn't say).
Secondly, the fact that sports games are in the top 20 is no surprise;
those always sell well. EA has apparently rebounded well with its loss
of the FIFA license.
Otherwise, there aren't too many surprises, except maybe that "Kingdom
Come Deliverance 2" made the list; given it's not published by a
triple-A and is a bit niche in mechanics makes its success all the
more impressive. But I think a lot of success lies more with the fact
that there's been a dearth of quality open-world first-person fantasy
RPGs recently, and KCD2 is filling that need, more than any real
appeal to the franchise. (Don't mistake me, I think the Kingdom Come
games are great, but I'm not sure they'd normally be able to compete
against other similar games... if any were released).
That games like "Minecraft", "Grand Theft Auto 5" and "Red Dead
Redemption 2" are still selling so well just boggles me. Okay, maybe Minecraft makes sense; there was the new movie this year, and it came
out on Switch 2, and there are always new kids to buy it. And GTA5 has
a rampant gambling economy built around it, so bots gotta keep buying
new copies. But "Red Dead Redemption 2"? Sure it's a great game, but
it's seven years old now, and it doesn't have a HUGE multiplayer
aspect to it. It's weird.
Good to see a slightly offbeat title like "Split Fiction" make the
list.
Surprised to see "Civilization VII" rank so high. I suspect that's the
result of satisfaction with earlier Civ games driving sales; I'm not
so sure that Civilization 8 will do as well.
It's unusual (and probably, to Nintendo, quite disheartening) that
there's only one Switch 2-exclusive game on the list. This only
confirms what a lot of other reporters are saying; the Switch 2
hardware sales are doing very well, but the software? Not nearly as
good as expected.
That the "Oblivion Remaster" is number two on the list makes me quite
grumpy. I think it, again, speaks to an unfulfilled need in the
open-world fantasy RPG market (the same one that "Kingdom Come
Deliverance 2" is similarly feeding). But it also means that we'll
probably see an endless string of similar remasters coming from
Bethesda for the next few years too. <sigh>
Ah well. What occurs to you, looking at that list?
Time to openly mooch off of somebody else's hard work! There's an
article on GameSpot* that lists the top selling games of 2025 (so far)
and I thought it might make an interesting starting point to a
discussion.
To save you from actually having to click a link, I'll just link theGot this as a freebie with my new Ryzen. Haven't played yet.
games here:
1) Monster Hunter Wilds
2) Oblivion RemasteredNo. Already played it.
3) College Football 26No.
3) Assassin's Creed ShadowsUbi. Their corporate culture is gross and abusive. No.
4) Call of Duty: Black Ops 6Absolutely no.
5) MLB The Show 25Might get this one, it's supposed to be pretty good. And it's 2K, not EA.
6) Kingdom Come Deliverance 2Dunno. Maybe? It wasn't on my radar until you posted.
7) WWE 2K25Virtual fake sporty sports.
8) Elden Ring NightreignRiding on the coattails.
9) Split FictionHuh?
10) NBA 2K25Virtual *real* sporty sports.
11) Forza Horizon 5Doesn't everyone have enough racing games already?
12) EA Sports MVP BundleOh my. /All/ the sporty sports?
13) MinecraftAnd will be for eternity, Amen.
14) Civilization VIISuckers.
15) Grand Theft Auto VStill?
16) PGA Tour 2K25Virtual *boring* sporty sports.
17) Doom: The Dark AgesPeople can't get enough DOOM. They even can't get enough of the original!
18) EA Sports FC 25Maybe that's enough sports titles, eh? Is that "Football Club?"
19) Red Dead Redemption 2Still?
20) Donkey Kong BananzaWait what? We're not talking exclusively about PC games? I call
So, looking at the list, here are some of my thoughts:
First of all, yes, I know there are two #3s, and no, I don't know why
either (a tie maybe? The article doesn't say).
Secondly, the fact that sports games are in the top 20
is no surprise;
those always sell well. EA has apparently rebounded well with its loss
of the FIFA license.
Otherwise, there aren't too many surprises, except maybe that "Kingdom
Come Deliverance 2" made the list; given it's not published by a
triple-A and is a bit niche in mechanics makes its success all the
more impressive. But I think a lot of success lies more with the fact
that there's been a dearth of quality open-world first-person fantasy
RPGs recently, and KCD2 is filling that need, more than any real
appeal to the franchise. (Don't mistake me, I think the Kingdom Come
games are great, but I'm not sure they'd normally be able to compete
against other similar games... if any were released).
That games like "Minecraft", "Grand Theft Auto 5" and "Red Dead
Redemption 2" are still selling so well just boggles me.
Okay, maybe
Minecraft makes sense; there was the new movie this year, and it came
out on Switch 2, and there are always new kids to buy it. And GTA5 has
a rampant gambling economy built around it, so bots gotta keep buying
new copies. But "Red Dead Redemption 2"? Sure it's a great game, but
it's seven years old now, and it doesn't have a HUGE multiplayer
aspect to it. It's weird.
Good to see a slightly offbeat title like "Split Fiction" make the
list.
Surprised to see "Civilization VII" rank so high. I suspect that's the
result of satisfaction with earlier Civ games driving sales; I'm not
so sure that Civilization 8 will do as well.
It's unusual (and probably, to Nintendo, quite disheartening) that
there's only one Switch 2-exclusive game on the list. This only
confirms what a lot of other reporters are saying; the Switch 2
hardware sales are doing very well, but the software? Not nearly as
good as expected.
That the "Oblivion Remaster" is number two on the list makes me quite
grumpy. I think it, again, speaks to an unfulfilled need in the
open-world fantasy RPG market (the same one that "Kingdom Come
Deliverance 2" is similarly feeding). But it also means that we'll
probably see an endless string of similar remasters coming from
Bethesda for the next few years too. <sigh>
That the "Oblivion Remaster" is number two on the list makes me quite
grumpy. I think it, again, speaks to an unfulfilled need in the
open-world fantasy RPG market (the same one that "Kingdom Come
Deliverance 2" is similarly feeding). But it also means that we'll
probably see an endless string of similar remasters coming from
Bethesda for the next few years too. <sigh>
Ah well. What occurs to you, looking at that list?
On Mon, 01 Sep 2025 12:57:06 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
2) Oblivion RemasteredNo. Already played it.
6) Kingdom Come Deliverance 2Dunno. Maybe? It wasn't on my radar until you posted.
8) Elden Ring NightreignRiding on the coattails.
9) Split FictionHuh?
13) MinecraftAnd will be for eternity, Amen.
15) Grand Theft Auto VStill?
17) Doom: The Dark AgesPeople can't get enough DOOM. They even can't get enough of the original!
Otherwise, there aren't too many surprises, except maybe that "Kingdom
Come Deliverance 2" made the list; given it's not published by a
triple-A and is a bit niche in mechanics makes its success all the
more impressive. But I think a lot of success lies more with the fact
that there's been a dearth of quality open-world first-person fantasy
RPGs recently, and KCD2 is filling that need, more than any real
appeal to the franchise. (Don't mistake me, I think the Kingdom Come
games are great, but I'm not sure they'd normally be able to compete
against other similar games... if any were released).
On Mon, 01 Sep 2025 12:57:06 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
Otherwise, there aren't too many surprises, except maybe that "Kingdom
Come Deliverance 2" made the list; given it's not published by a
triple-A and is a bit niche in mechanics makes its success all the
more impressive. But I think a lot of success lies more with the fact
that there's been a dearth of quality open-world first-person fantasy
RPGs recently, and KCD2 is filling that need, more than any real
appeal to the franchise. (Don't mistake me, I think the Kingdom Come
games are great, but I'm not sure they'd normally be able to compete
against other similar games... if any were released).
Do people really want open world games that much, and there really
wasn't anything better? And it was still outsold by the Remaster of >Oblivion? *Shakes head* What's this world coming to?!?!
On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 18:59:30 -0700, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Justisaur wrote:
Do people really want open world games that much, and there really
wasn't anything better? And it was still outsold by the Remaster of
Oblivion? *Shakes head* What's this world coming to?!?!
People who haven't played Oblivion yet and are tired of Skyrim Special Edition, apparently.
I liked Oblivion, so long as you never bothered with the abortion in a blender that was the main quest. Closing random spawned portals was
annoying. As annoying as the settlements crying for help in FO4. The
radial "dialogue" system was also dumb as bricks.
Dark Brotherhood, baby.
The only bit I remember liking was the quest "A Rat Problem."
On Tue, 02 Sep 2025 08:24:28 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 18:59:30 -0700, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, >>Justisaur wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2025 12:57:06 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
Otherwise, there aren't too many surprises, except maybe that "Kingdom >>>>> Come Deliverance 2" made the list; given it's not published by a
triple-A and is a bit niche in mechanics makes its success all the
more impressive. But I think a lot of success lies more with the fact >>>>> that there's been a dearth of quality open-world first-person fantasy >>>>> RPGs recently, and KCD2 is filling that need, more than any real
appeal to the franchise. (Don't mistake me, I think the Kingdom Come >>>>> games are great, but I'm not sure they'd normally be able to compete >>>>> against other similar games... if any were released).
Do people really want open world games that much, and there really
wasn't anything better? And it was still outsold by the Remaster of >>>Oblivion? *Shakes head* What's this world coming to?!?!
People who haven't played Oblivion yet and are tired of Skyrim Special >>Edition, apparently.
I liked Oblivion, so long as you never bothered with the abortion in a >>blender that was the main quest. Closing random spawned portals was >>annoying.
Now, now; there are only sixty portals; close all of them and you
never have to bother with the portals again ;-)
(There are 100 portal locations in Oblivion. 20 of them are
linked to quests and will always open at one point or another.
Of the remaining 80, there is a random chance of them opening,
but only until 60 gates total (so 20 fixed + 40 random) have
appeared. After you close all the gates, no more will spawn.)
Of course, once you complete the main quest, all the gates close >automatically anyway. The absolute minimum number of gates to close
necessary to finish the main quest is three (although the game presses
you to close more in the side-quests, they aren't necessary to finish
the main quest, although it may make things harder for you). But if
you want to get rid of the Oblivion gates with the least amount of
effort, you'll only have to enter Oblivion three times to do that.
That totally makes you want to replay the game knowing all that,
right? ;-)
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