• Re: New Open Source TCP/IP Stack for RISC OS now available to download

    From John@21:1/5 to Richard Brown on Sat Apr 30 13:31:40 2022
    In article <1651319699.947584@slave.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
    Richard Brown <richard@riscosdev.com> wrote:

    New Open Source TCP/IP Stack for RISC OS now available to
    download

    What great news!

    However, the text of this announcement has been taken from:

    https://www.riscosdev.com/projects/

    and the download link referred to...

    How to install
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-

    Download the zip below.

    ...only appears on that page and not in the announcement.

    John

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    John
    newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk
    j dot mccartney atte blueyonder dot co dot uk

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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to John on Sat Apr 30 18:12:48 2022
    In article <59e13eab78newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk>,
    John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
    In article <1651319699.947584@slave.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
    Richard Brown <richard@riscosdev.com> wrote:

    New Open Source TCP/IP Stack for RISC OS now available to
    download

    What great news!

    Indeed.

    However, the text of this announcement has been taken from: https://www.riscosdev.com/projects/
    and the download link referred to...

    ...only appears on that page and not in the announcement.

    The csaa announcement has now been corrected to include the link.

    --
    Martin Avison
    Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
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  • From John@21:1/5 to News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk on Sat Apr 30 18:32:45 2022
    In article <59e1586862News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>, Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <59e13eab78newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk>, John
    <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <1651319699.947584@slave.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
    Richard Brown <richard@riscosdev.com> wrote:

    <snip>

    and the download link referred to...

    ...only appears on that page and not in the
    announcement.

    The csaa announcement has now been corrected to include
    the link.

    So it has. That'll teach me to be so quick off the mark.

    John

    --
    John
    newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk
    j dot mccartney atte blueyonder dot co dot uk

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  • From Bernard@21:1/5 to John on Sun May 1 09:13:26 2022
    In message <59e13eab78newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk>
    John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <1651319699.947584@slave.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
    Richard Brown <richard@riscosdev.com> wrote:

    New Open Source TCP/IP Stack for RISC OS now available to
    download

    What great news!

    However, the text of this announcement has been taken from:

    https://www.riscosdev.com/projects/

    and the download link referred to...

    How to install
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-

    Download the zip below.

    ...only appears on that page and not in the announcement.

    John

    I installed it on my ARMX6 and all went well.
    However, when I installed it on my Pi4 with RISC OS 5.29 (2 Apr 2022) it
    all went wrong leaving me with no Internet or networking.
    The !Install program also now fails to work so I can't uninstall it
    either!

    Have filled in a support ticket!

    Bernard
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  • From John@21:1/5 to bernard@nospambapfish.org.uk on Sun May 1 09:31:12 2022
    In article <e0dcaae159.Bernard@iMX6>, Bernard
    <bernard@nospambapfish.org.uk> wrote:

    I installed it on my ARMX6 and all went well. However,
    when I installed it on my Pi4 with RISC OS 5.29 (2 Apr
    2022) it all went wrong leaving me with no Internet or
    networking. The !Install program also now fails to work
    so I can't uninstall it either!

    Have filled in a support ticket!

    Judging by the thread on the Bounties forum of ROOL's web
    site, you're not the only one. ROD are promising full
    support after the bank holiday.

    My ARMX6 upgraded faultlessly too but I haven't tried it on
    my older Pies.

    John

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    John
    newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk
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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to Bernard on Sun May 1 12:31:39 2022
    In message <e0dcaae159.Bernard@iMX6>
    Bernard <bernard@nospambapfish.org.uk> wrote:

    In message <59e13eab78newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk>
    John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <1651319699.947584@slave.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
    Richard Brown <richard@riscosdev.com> wrote:

    New Open Source TCP/IP Stack for RISC OS now available to
    download

    What great news!

    However, the text of this announcement has been taken from:

    https://www.riscosdev.com/projects/

    and the download link referred to...

    How to install
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-

    Download the zip below.

    ...only appears on that page and not in the announcement.

    John

    I installed it on my ARMX6 and all went well.
    However, when I installed it on my Pi4 with RISC OS 5.29 (2 Apr 2022) it
    all went wrong leaving me with no Internet or networking.
    The !Install program also now fails to work so I can't uninstall it
    either!

    Have filled in a support ticket!

    Have you tried opening the !Install program and within it is an Uninstall
    obey file. This is the the uninstaller basically I understand.

    Did you also ensure you had the latest !Omni as advised etc in the Read Me first file.

    Is your Pi 4 overclocked? if so did you see the note in the readme first
    file.




    --
    Chris Hughes
    Don't miss this years Wakefield Show 21st May 2022 - we have moved to
    Cedar Court Hotel, Bradford
    Check the latest information at www.wakefieldshow.org.uk

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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Sun May 1 13:26:34 2022
    In article <da02bde159.chris@mytardis>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <e0dcaae159.Bernard@iMX6>
    Bernard <bernard@nospambapfish.org.uk> wrote:
    In message <59e13eab78newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk>
    John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
    In article <1651319699.947584@slave.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
    Richard Brown <richard@riscosdev.com> wrote:

    New Open Source TCP/IP Stack for RISC OS now available to
    download

    [Snip]

    I installed it on my ARMX6 and all went well. However, when I
    installed it on my Pi4 with RISC OS 5.29 (2 Apr 2022) it all went
    wrong leaving me with no Internet or networking.

    How did it 'go wrong'? Did it appear to work and re-boot, or did it
    fail with some error before the boot?

    The !Install program also now fails to work so I can't uninstall
    it either!

    If that is because of an unknown SWI, I suspect you have been left
    with some modules (includung Internet) unplugged. Try *RMReinit
    Internet and see if that enables Install to run.

    Have filled in a support ticket!

    Have you tried opening the !Install program and within it is an
    Uninstall obey file. This is the the uninstaller basically I
    understand.

    That is my understanding too - apart from changing the file <Choices$Write>.Internet.Startup to replace any "OBSD:" with "Inet:"

    Did you also ensure you had the latest !Omni as advised etc in the
    Read Me first file.

    Is your Pi 4 overclocked? if so did you see the note in the readme
    first file.

    --
    Martin Avison
    Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
    without notice if (when) any spam is received.

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  • From Chris Craig@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Sun May 1 16:37:16 2022
    In message <da02bde159.chris@mytardis>
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    In message <e0dcaae159.Bernard@iMX6>
    Bernard <bernard@nospambapfish.org.uk> wrote:

    In message <59e13eab78newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk>
    John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <1651319699.947584@slave.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
    Richard Brown <richard@riscosdev.com> wrote:

    New Open Source TCP/IP Stack for RISC OS now available to
    download

    What great news!

    However, the text of this announcement has been taken from:

    https://www.riscosdev.com/projects/

    and the download link referred to...

    How to install
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-

    Download the zip below.

    ...only appears on that page and not in the announcement.

    John

    I installed it on my ARMX6 and all went well.
    However, when I installed it on my Pi4 with RISC OS 5.29 (2 Apr 2022) it
    all went wrong leaving me with no Internet or networking.
    The !Install program also now fails to work so I can't uninstall it
    either!

    Have filled in a support ticket!

    Have you tried opening the !Install program and within it is an Uninstall obey file. This is the the uninstaller basically I understand.

    Did you also ensure you had the latest !Omni as advised etc in the Read Me first file.

    Is your Pi 4 overclocked? if so did you see the note in the readme first file.

    --
    Chris Hughes
    Don't miss this years Wakefield Show 21st May 2022 - we have moved to
    Cedar Court Hotel, Bradford
    Check the latest information at www.wakefieldshow.org.uk

    For me it all looked to go well but on restart "Alignment error"
    Luckily uninstall worked.

    --
    chris.j.craig@btinternet.com
    ARMX6 RISC OS 5.29
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  • From Chris Craig@21:1/5 to Martin on Sun May 1 17:35:15 2022
    In message <59e1d72620News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
    Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <727fd3e159.Chris@btinternet.com>,
    Chris Craig <chris.j.craig@btinternet.com> wrote:
    In article <1651319699.947584@slave.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
    Richard Brown <richard@riscosdev.com> wrote:

    New Open Source TCP/IP Stack for RISC OS now available to
    download

    [Snip]

    For me it all looked to go well but on restart "Alignment error"
    Luckily uninstall worked.

    What hardware and OS version/date was than on?
    Did the message show anything else apart from 'Alignment error'?
    At what point did it appear?

    --
    Martin Avison
    Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
    without notice if (when) any spam is received.

    My address must have got chopped?
    ARM6 RO 5.29. 1st Feb 22
    After installation it says restart - it looked to be loading OK but then I
    got the "alignment error". I don't use Omni only LanMan98 2.08
    --
    chris.j.craig@btinternet.com
    ARMX6 RISC OS 5.29
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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to Chris Craig on Sun May 1 17:17:09 2022
    In article <727fd3e159.Chris@btinternet.com>,
    Chris Craig <chris.j.craig@btinternet.com> wrote:
    In article <1651319699.947584@slave.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
    Richard Brown <richard@riscosdev.com> wrote:

    New Open Source TCP/IP Stack for RISC OS now available to
    download

    [Snip]

    For me it all looked to go well but on restart "Alignment error"
    Luckily uninstall worked.

    What hardware and OS version/date was than on?
    Did the message show anything else apart from 'Alignment error'?
    At what point did it appear?

    --
    Martin Avison
    Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to Chris Craig on Sun May 1 18:18:00 2022
    In article <3eced8e159.Chris@btinternet.com>,
    Chris Craig <chris.j.craig@btinternet.com> wrote:
    In message <59e1d72620News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
    Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <727fd3e159.Chris@btinternet.com>,
    Chris Craig <chris.j.craig@btinternet.com> wrote:
    In article <1651319699.947584@slave.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
    Richard Brown <richard@riscosdev.com> wrote:

    New Open Source TCP/IP Stack for RISC OS now available to
    download

    [Snip]

    For me it all looked to go well but on restart "Alignment error"
    Luckily uninstall worked.

    What hardware and OS version/date was than on?
    Did the message show anything else apart from 'Alignment error'?
    At what point did it appear?

    ARM6 RO 5.29. 1st Feb 22
    After installation it says restart - it looked to be loading OK but
    then I got the "alignment error". I don't use Omni only LanMan98
    2.08

    When you say "After Installation" is that after you have seen the
    message "Make sure you have saved any unsaved work, then click
    'Continue' to proceed. Your computer will install the new stack
    components and reboot directly." and you have clicked "Continue" ?

    If so, did you also then see any normal re-booting messages?

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    Martin Avison
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  • From Paul Oates@21:1/5 to Martin on Sun May 1 21:21:55 2022
    In message <59e1dcb835News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
    Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:


    For me it all looked to go well but on restart "Alignment error"
    Luckily uninstall worked.

    What hardware and OS version/date was than on?
    Did the message show anything else apart from 'Alignment error'?
    At what point did it appear?

    ARM6 RO 5.29. 1st Feb 22
    After installation it says restart - it looked to be loading OK but
    then I got the "alignment error". I don't use Omni only LanMan98
    2.08

    When you say "After Installation" is that after you have seen the
    message "Make sure you have saved any unsaved work, then click
    'Continue' to proceed. Your computer will install the new stack
    components and reboot directly." and you have clicked "Continue" ?

    If so, did you also then see any normal re-booting messages?

    Martin,

    I am running 5.29 on an ARMX6.

    I too got an alignment error. It was after a series of reboot messages
    which appeared normal though IP6Net had an egg-timer for a few seconds.

    When that cleared there was a message from the Desktop: "Bad Alignment Request". After clearing that I got a window headed Run choices: boot.tasks.sharedisk which declared:

    'ShareFS is not fully initialised
    a)no ethernet driver
    b)Freeway not running'

    After clearing that the desktop appeared with an error from Newshound
    (which is in my boot sequence):'Could not resolve hostname'

    At that point I gave up and de-installed, which worked fine.

    I had a poke around and found some instructions for ConfigIPv6. As I had
    no idea what I might be getting into, or how to back out any changes I
    decided to leave well alone until a later version of the stack.

    Great to see this new development from ROD

    regards

    --
    Paul Oates
    oatespaul@btinternet.com

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  • From David Higton@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Sun May 1 21:48:45 2022
    In message <da02bde159.chris@mytardis>
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    Did you also ensure you had the latest !Omni as advised etc in the Read Me first file.

    Does it require the latest !Omni even if I'm not running Omni?

    David

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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to Paul Oates on Sun May 1 22:19:24 2022
    In article <e38eede159.Paul@oatespaul.btinternet.com>,
    Paul Oates <oatespaul@btinternet.com> wrote:
    In message <59e1dcb835News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
    Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

    For me it all looked to go well but on restart "Alignment
    error" Luckily uninstall worked.

    What hardware and OS version/date was than on? Did the message
    show anything else apart from 'Alignment error'? At what point
    did it appear?

    ARM6 RO 5.29. 1st Feb 22 After installation it says restart - it
    looked to be loading OK but then I got the "alignment error". I
    don't use Omni only LanMan98 2.08

    When you say "After Installation" is that after you have seen the
    message "Make sure you have saved any unsaved work, then click
    'Continue' to proceed. Your computer will install the new stack
    components and reboot directly." and you have clicked "Continue" ?

    If so, did you also then see any normal re-booting messages?

    I am running 5.29 on an ARMX6.

    I too got an alignment error. It was after a series of reboot
    messages which appeared normal though IP6Net had an egg-timer for
    a few seconds.

    When that cleared there was a message from the Desktop: "Bad
    Alignment Request". After clearing that I got a window headed Run
    choices: boot.tasks.sharedisk which declared:

    So the message appears in an error window after the desktop has
    appeared?

    'ShareFS is not fully initialised
    a)no ethernet driver
    b)Freeway not running'

    After clearing that the desktop appeared with an error from
    Newshound (which is in my boot sequence):'Could not resolve
    hostname'

    Both ShareFS and Resolver issues will probably be because of the
    earlier failure.

    At that point I gave up and de-installed, which worked fine.

    I had a poke around and found some instructions for ConfigIPv6. As
    I had no idea what I might be getting into, or how to back out any
    changes I decided to leave well alone until a later version of the
    stack.

    Unless you understand IPv6 stay well clear!

    The next step is to narrow down what is issuing the message.
    If anyone is running my Reporter from boot (or Rick's Harezumi?) it
    would be very useful to know the commands surrounding the error.

    Martin


    regards

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to David Higton on Sun May 1 23:15:00 2022
    In message <e903f0e159.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>
    David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

    In message <da02bde159.chris@mytardis>
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    Did you also ensure you had the latest !Omni as advised etc in the Read Me >> first file.

    Does it require the latest !Omni even if I'm not running Omni?

    Andrew Rawnsley says on the ARMini list:

    Just make sure to update your !Omni, since there are fixes in that from
    last year that fit well with the new stack.
    End quote:


    --
    Chris Hughes
    Don't miss this years Wakefield Show 21st May 2022 - we have moved to
    Cedar Court Hotel, Bradford
    Check the latest information at www.wakefieldshow.org.uk

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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Mon May 2 10:37:45 2022
    In article <45e9f7e159.chris@mytardis>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <e903f0e159.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>
    David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

    In message <da02bde159.chris@mytardis>
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    Did you also ensure you had the latest !Omni as advised etc in
    the Read Me first file.

    Does it require the latest !Omni even if I'm not running Omni?

    Andrew Rawnsley says on the ARMini list:

    Just make sure to update your !Omni, since there are fixes in that
    from last year that fit well with the new stack.
    End quote:

    Seems redundant if Omni is not being used, though?

    I would agree that the pre-requisites for running the new stack are
    not well defined. Terms like 'latest' should be replaced by version
    numbers - and enforced by RMEnsures - for avoidance of doubt.

    --
    Martin Avison
    Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
    without notice if (when) any spam is received.

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to Martin on Mon May 2 11:43:58 2022
    In message <59e2366b50News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
    Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <45e9f7e159.chris@mytardis>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <e903f0e159.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>
    David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

    In message <da02bde159.chris@mytardis>
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    Did you also ensure you had the latest !Omni as advised etc in
    the Read Me first file.

    Does it require the latest !Omni even if I'm not running Omni?

    Andrew Rawnsley says on the ARMini list:

    Just make sure to update your !Omni, since there are fixes in that
    from last year that fit well with the new stack.
    End quote:

    Seems redundant if Omni is not being used, though?

    Possibly, It's available via Packman anyway for ease of install.

    I think looking at the internals of the current Omni its actually some of
    the modules that have been updated rather then Omni itself.

    I would agree that the pre-requisites for running the new stack are
    not well defined. Terms like 'latest' should be replaced by version
    numbers - and enforced by RMEnsures - for avoidance of doubt.

    The prerequisites I think are just for safety (covering their backs so to speak) reduce possible issues.

    Omni seems to be the main one and advising the new stack ideally should be installed on 5.24+ the other. A general warning re over clocked Pi's possibility causing some timing issues to me make sense.

    Anyway runs nicely here on my ARMX6 and its certainly faster.


    --
    Chris Hughes
    Don't miss this years Wakefield Show 21st May 2022 - we have moved to
    Cedar Court Hotel, Bradford
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  • From Bernard@21:1/5 to Martin on Mon May 2 14:40:54 2022
    In message <59e1c20892News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
    Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <da02bde159.chris@mytardis>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <e0dcaae159.Bernard@iMX6>
    Bernard <bernard@nospambapfish.org.uk> wrote:
    In message <59e13eab78newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk>
    John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
    In article <1651319699.947584@slave.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
    Richard Brown <richard@riscosdev.com> wrote:

    New Open Source TCP/IP Stack for RISC OS now available to
    download

    [Snip]

    I installed it on my ARMX6 and all went well. However, when I
    installed it on my Pi4 with RISC OS 5.29 (2 Apr 2022) it all went
    wrong leaving me with no Internet or networking.

    How did it 'go wrong'? Did it appear to work and re-boot, or did it
    fail with some error before the boot?

    The Network Configuration window opened and stuck there.
    I eventually clicked SAVE and it rebooted.

    Now every time it starts up I get the Network Configuration window
    during boot up. If I click SAVE then 'Reset later' I can get to a
    working desktop except network and Internet not working.
    (Using my ARMX6 to reply to this!)

    The !Install program also now fails to work so I can't uninstall
    it either!

    If that is because of an unknown SWI, I suspect you have been left
    with some modules (includung Internet) unplugged. Try *RMReinit
    Internet and see if that enables Install to run.

    The !Install program error is now: 'SWI name not known @ 120'.
    Line 120 says: SYS"XSocket_Version,r% TO r%
    Unplugged modules are: Resolver + EtherUSB

    Bernard
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  • From Bernard@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Mon May 2 14:25:45 2022
    In message <da02bde159.chris@mytardis>
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    In message <e0dcaae159.Bernard@iMX6>

    I installed it on my ARMX6 and all went well.
    However, when I installed it on my Pi4 with RISC OS 5.29 (2 Apr 2022) it
    all went wrong leaving me with no Internet or networking.
    The !Install program also now fails to work so I can't uninstall it
    either!

    Have filled in a support ticket!

    Have you tried opening the !Install program and within it is an Uninstall obey file. This is the the uninstaller basically I understand.

    That would make sense.

    Did you also ensure you had the latest !Omni as advised etc in the Read Me first file.

    !Omni updated - I don't use it though.

    Is your Pi 4 overclocked? if so did you see the note in the readme first file.

    My Pi 4 is not overclocked. I saw the note about that.

    Bernard
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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to Bernard on Mon May 2 15:56:43 2022
    In message <f7ad4ce259.Bernard@iMX6>
    Bernard <bernard@nospambapfish.org.uk> wrote:

    In message <59e1c20892News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
    Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <da02bde159.chris@mytardis>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <e0dcaae159.Bernard@iMX6>
    Bernard <bernard@nospambapfish.org.uk> wrote:
    In message <59e13eab78newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk>
    John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
    In article <1651319699.947584@slave.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
    Richard Brown <richard@riscosdev.com> wrote:

    New Open Source TCP/IP Stack for RISC OS now available to
    download

    [Snip]

    I installed it on my ARMX6 and all went well. However, when I
    installed it on my Pi4 with RISC OS 5.29 (2 Apr 2022) it all went
    wrong leaving me with no Internet or networking.

    How did it 'go wrong'? Did it appear to work and re-boot, or did it
    fail with some error before the boot?

    The Network Configuration window opened and stuck there.
    I eventually clicked SAVE and it rebooted.

    Now every time it starts up I get the Network Configuration window
    during boot up. If I click SAVE then 'Reset later' I can get to a
    working desktop except network and Internet not working.
    (Using my ARMX6 to reply to this!)

    That sounds like the !InetSetup has not updated correctly

    The !Install program also now fails to work so I can't uninstall
    it either!

    If that is because of an unknown SWI, I suspect you have been left
    with some modules (includung Internet) unplugged. Try *RMReinit
    Internet and see if that enables Install to run.

    The !Install program error is now: 'SWI name not known @ 120'.
    Line 120 says: SYS"XSocket_Version,r% TO r%
    Unplugged modules are: Resolver + EtherUSB

    So it thinks those modules are unplugged

    Is this a standard Pi 4 without any extra HAT's ?


    --
    Chris Hughes
    Don't miss this years Wakefield Show 21st May 2022 - we have moved to
    Cedar Court Hotel, Bradford
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  • From David Higton@21:1/5 to Martin on Mon May 2 15:53:26 2022
    In message <59e2366b50News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
    Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <45e9f7e159.chris@mytardis>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <e903f0e159.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>
    David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

    In message <da02bde159.chris@mytardis>
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    Did you also ensure you had the latest !Omni as advised etc in the
    Read Me first file.

    Does it require the latest !Omni even if I'm not running Omni?

    Andrew Rawnsley says on the ARMini list:

    Just make sure to update your !Omni, since there are fixes in that from last year that fit well with the new stack.
    End quote:

    Seems redundant if Omni is not being used, though?

    The basis for my question, of course.

    I don't normally use Omni at all. When I access a network drive, I do
    it via LanMan98 - but LM98 doesn't run unless and until I want to access
    the drive.

    So, does the new stack force Omni to run, whether it's going to be used
    or not?

    I would agree that the pre-requisites for running the new stack are not
    well defined. Terms like 'latest' should be replaced by version numbers - and enforced by RMEnsures - for avoidance of doubt.

    That would seem eminently sensible.

    David

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to David Higton on Mon May 2 16:01:21 2022
    In message <2a5253e259.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>
    David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

    In message <59e2366b50News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
    Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <45e9f7e159.chris@mytardis>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <e903f0e159.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>
    David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

    In message <da02bde159.chris@mytardis>
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    Did you also ensure you had the latest !Omni as advised etc in the
    Read Me first file.

    Does it require the latest !Omni even if I'm not running Omni?

    Andrew Rawnsley says on the ARMini list:

    Just make sure to update your !Omni, since there are fixes in that from
    last year that fit well with the new stack.
    End quote:

    Seems redundant if Omni is not being used, though?

    The basis for my question, of course.

    I don't normally use Omni at all. When I access a network drive, I do
    it via LanMan98 - but LM98 doesn't run unless and until I want to access
    the drive.

    I don't normally use Omni but do use LM98 latest version 2.08 like you

    So, does the new stack force Omni to run, whether it's going to be used
    or not?

    No, but it appears some of the networking modules within have had some
    updates



    --
    Chris Hughes
    Don't miss this years Wakefield Show 21st May 2022 - we have moved to
    Cedar Court Hotel, Bradford
    Check the latest information at www.wakefieldshow.org.uk

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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to Bernard on Mon May 2 17:05:41 2022
    In article <f7ad4ce259.Bernard@iMX6>,
    Bernard <bernard@nospambapfish.org.uk> wrote:
    In message <59e1c20892News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
    Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <da02bde159.chris@mytardis>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <e0dcaae159.Bernard@iMX6>
    Bernard <bernard@nospambapfish.org.uk> wrote:
    In message <59e13eab78newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk>
    John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
    In article <1651319699.947584@slave.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
    Richard Brown <richard@riscosdev.com> wrote:

    New Open Source TCP/IP Stack for RISC OS now available to
    download

    [Snip]

    I installed it on my ARMX6 and all went well. However, when I
    installed it on my Pi4 with RISC OS 5.29 (2 Apr 2022) it all
    went wrong leaving me with no Internet or networking.

    How did it 'go wrong'? Did it appear to work and re-boot, or did
    it fail with some error before the boot?

    The Network Configuration window opened and stuck there. I
    eventually clicked SAVE and it rebooted.

    Was this just after clicking 'Install then Reboot', but before you saw
    a message "Make sure you have saved any unsaved work, then click
    'Continue' to proceed. Your computer will install the new stack
    components and reboot directly" ? Or after you clicked on Continue?

    I can see no way the Install opens the Config window. Yet.
    Did the Pi4 have ithe old internet installed and working?

    Now every time it starts up I get the Network Configuration window
    during boot up. If I click SAVE then 'Reset later' I can get to a
    working desktop except network and Internet not working. (Using my
    ARMX6 to reply to this!)

    The !Install program also now fails to work so I can't
    uninstall it either!

    If that is because of an unknown SWI, I suspect you have been
    left with some modules (includung Internet) unplugged. Try
    *RMReinit Internet and see if that enables Install to run.

    The !Install program error is now: 'SWI name not known @ 120'. Line
    120 says: SYS"XSocket_Version,r% TO r% Unplugged modules are:
    Resolver + EtherUSB

    What version does *Help Internet show?
    If it is 7.00 then try *RMKill Internet, then *RMReInit Internet
    Then has v7.00 gone?

    --
    Martin Avison
    Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
    without notice if (when) any spam is received.

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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Mon May 2 17:15:45 2022
    In article <b00b54e259.chris@mytardis>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <2a5253e259.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>
    David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

    In message <59e2366b50News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
    Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <45e9f7e159.chris@mytardis>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <e903f0e159.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>
    David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

    In message <da02bde159.chris@mytardis>
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    Did you also ensure you had the latest !Omni as advised etc
    in the Read Me first file.

    Does it require the latest !Omni even if I'm not running Omni?

    Andrew Rawnsley says on the ARMini list:

    Just make sure to update your !Omni, since there are fixes in
    that from last year that fit well with the new stack. End quote:

    Seems redundant if Omni is not being used, though?

    The basis for my question, of course.

    I don't normally use Omni at all. When I access a network drive,
    I do it via LanMan98 - but LM98 doesn't run unless and until I
    want to access the drive.

    I don't normally use Omni but do use LM98 latest version 2.08 like
    you

    So, does the new stack force Omni to run, whether it's going to
    be used or not?

    No, but it appears some of the networking modules within have had
    some updates

    Seems to be just LanManFS and NFS that were updated last year.
    But I have discovered I had not updated those, after I found that
    OmniClient *was* the latest release (v2.32 from 2020). And I had no
    bother with the older versions and the new stack on a Titanium or
    RPi3!

    Dave: What machine are you running on?
    Are you referring to Message:
    Machine startup has not completed successfully: 'Bad alignment
    request'
    in an error box during the re-boot?

    --
    Martin Avison
    Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
    without notice if (when) any spam is received.

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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to rhnews@dsl.pipex.com on Mon May 2 19:04:00 2022
    In article <59e2619f87rhnews@dsl.pipex.com>,
    Rob Hemmings (News) <rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

    [Snip]

    Are you referring to Message:
    Machine startup has not completed successfully: 'Bad alignment
    request'
    in an error box during the re-boot?

    I'm getting the same problem and error message - just as described
    above. I don't have Omni but I do load LanMan98 version 2.08 at
    startup. I'm on an ArmX6 running RISC OS 5.29. I'd be grateful
    for any suggestions.

    In RISC OS Configuration => Network => Internet => Interfaces =>
    Configure do you use an IP address, a hostname or DHCP?

    If not DHCP, can you try that?

    Martin

    --
    Martin Avison
    Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
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  • From Rob Hemmings (News)@21:1/5 to Martin on Mon May 2 19:09:42 2022
    In article <59e264c465News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
    Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
    In article <59e2619f87rhnews@dsl.pipex.com>,
    Rob Hemmings (News) <rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

    [Snip]

    Are you referring to Message:
    Machine startup has not completed successfully: 'Bad alignment
    request'
    in an error box during the re-boot?

    I'm getting the same problem and error message - just as described
    above. I don't have Omni but I do load LanMan98 version 2.08 at
    startup. I'm on an ArmX6 running RISC OS 5.29. I'd be grateful
    for any suggestions.

    In RISC OS Configuration => Network => Internet => Interfaces =>
    Configure do you use an IP address, a hostname or DHCP?

    If not DHCP, can you try that?

    Martin

    Hi Martin (and David),

    Interesting! I did have a fixed IP address before but now I've changed
    to DHCP and then re-installed the new TCI/IP stack the error message has
    gone away and everything seems to be working OK. Thanks for the
    suggestion.

    --
    -------------------------------------------------------------
    Rob Hemmings Southport

    rhnews@dsl.pipex.com

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  • From Rob Hemmings (News)@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 2 18:29:42 2022
    [Snip]

    Seems redundant if Omni is not being used, though?

    The basis for my question, of course.

    I don't normally use Omni at all. When I access a network drive,
    I do it via LanMan98 - but LM98 doesn't run unless and until I
    want to access the drive.

    I don't normally use Omni but do use LM98 latest version 2.08 like
    you

    So, does the new stack force Omni to run, whether it's going to
    be used or not?

    No, but it appears some of the networking modules within have had
    some updates

    Seems to be just LanManFS and NFS that were updated last year.
    But I have discovered I had not updated those, after I found that
    OmniClient *was* the latest release (v2.32 from 2020). And I had no
    bother with the older versions and the new stack on a Titanium or
    RPi3!

    Dave: What machine are you running on?
    Are you referring to Message:
    Machine startup has not completed successfully: 'Bad alignment
    request'
    in an error box during the re-boot?

    I'm getting the same problem and error message - just as described above.
    I don't have Omni but I do load LanMan98 version 2.08 at startup. I'm on
    an ArmX6 running RISC OS 5.29. I'd be grateful for any suggestions.

    --
    -------------------------------------------------------------
    Rob Hemmings Southport

    rhnews@dsl.pipex.com

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  • From David Higton@21:1/5 to rhnews@dsl.pipex.com on Mon May 2 19:04:04 2022
    In message <59e2619f87rhnews@dsl.pipex.com>
    "Rob Hemmings (News)" <rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:


    [Snip]

    Seems redundant if Omni is not being used, though?

    The basis for my question, of course.

    I don't normally use Omni at all. When I access a network drive, I
    do it via LanMan98 - but LM98 doesn't run unless and until I want to access the drive.

    I don't normally use Omni but do use LM98 latest version 2.08 like you

    So, does the new stack force Omni to run, whether it's going to be
    used or not?

    No, but it appears some of the networking modules within have had some updates

    Seems to be just LanManFS and NFS that were updated last year. But I
    have discovered I had not updated those, after I found that OmniClient *was* the latest release (v2.32 from 2020). And I had no bother with the older versions and the new stack on a Titanium or RPi3!

    Dave: What machine are you running on? Are you referring to Message:
    Machine startup has not completed successfully: 'Bad alignment
    request' in an error box during the re-boot?

    I'm getting the same problem and error message - just as described above. I don't have Omni but I do load LanMan98 version 2.08 at startup. I'm on an ArmX6 running RISC OS 5.29. I'd be grateful for any suggestions.

    I've since found out that it fails as described above when the network
    is configured to get its IP address from the hostname, but it works when
    set to DHCP.

    So how is yours configured?

    I've updated the ticket accordingly.

    David

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  • From Rob Hemmings (News)@21:1/5 to David Higton on Mon May 2 19:12:39 2022
    In article <d6c564e259.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
    David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
    In message <59e2619f87rhnews@dsl.pipex.com>
    "Rob Hemmings (News)" <rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:



    [Snip]

    Dave: What machine are you running on? Are you referring to Message:
    Machine startup has not completed successfully: 'Bad alignment
    request' in an error box during the re-boot?

    I'm getting the same problem and error message - just as described above. I don't have Omni but I do load LanMan98 version 2.08 at startup. I'm on an ArmX6 running RISC OS 5.29. I'd be grateful for any suggestions.

    I've since found out that it fails as described above when the network
    is configured to get its IP address from the hostname, but it works when
    set to DHCP.

    So how is yours configured?

    I've updated the ticket accordingly.

    David

    Hi David,

    Mine was configured with a Manual IP address - with the fixed address
    supplied by me. Now I've switched to DHCP it seems to work fine.

    --
    -------------------------------------------------------------
    Rob Hemmings Southport

    rhnews@dsl.pipex.com

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to rhnews@dsl.pipex.com on Mon May 2 19:11:00 2022
    In message <59e2619f87rhnews@dsl.pipex.com>
    "Rob Hemmings (News)" <rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:


    [Snip]

    Seems redundant if Omni is not being used, though?

    The basis for my question, of course.

    I don't normally use Omni at all. When I access a network drive,
    I do it via LanMan98 - but LM98 doesn't run unless and until I
    want to access the drive.

    I don't normally use Omni but do use LM98 latest version 2.08 like
    you

    So, does the new stack force Omni to run, whether it's going to
    be used or not?

    No, but it appears some of the networking modules within have had
    some updates

    Seems to be just LanManFS and NFS that were updated last year.
    But I have discovered I had not updated those, after I found that
    OmniClient *was* the latest release (v2.32 from 2020). And I had no
    bother with the older versions and the new stack on a Titanium or
    RPi3!

    Dave: What machine are you running on?
    Are you referring to Message:
    Machine startup has not completed successfully: 'Bad alignment
    request'
    in an error box during the re-boot?

    I'm getting the same problem and error message - just as described above.
    I don't have Omni but I do load LanMan98 version 2.08 at startup. I'm on
    an ArmX6 running RISC OS 5.29. I'd be grateful for any suggestions.

    See what happens if you take LanMan98 v2.08 out of your startup, then
    reboot. Remember LanMan98 is a network application.

    --
    Chris Hughes
    Don't miss this years Wakefield Show 21st May 2022 - we have moved to
    Cedar Court Hotel, Bradford
    Check the latest information at www.wakefieldshow.org.uk

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  • From Dave@21:1/5 to rhnews@dsl.pipex.com on Mon May 2 20:20:47 2022
    In article <59e2658f06rhnews@dsl.pipex.com>,
    Rob Hemmings (News) <rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

    [Snip]

    Hi David,

    Mine was configured with a Manual IP address - with the fixed address supplied by me. Now I've switched to DHCP it seems to work fine.

    Being forced to use DHCP.. Y'all sure this is not a Microsoft
    newsgroup... ;-) <<<<<

    Dave

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  • From Rob Hemmings (News)@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Mon May 2 22:14:52 2022
    In article <ac6865e259.chris@mytardis>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    [Snip]

    Dave: What machine are you running on?
    Are you referring to Message:
    Machine startup has not completed successfully: 'Bad alignment
    request'
    in an error box during the re-boot?

    I'm getting the same problem and error message - just as described above.
    I don't have Omni but I do load LanMan98 version 2.08 at startup. I'm on an ArmX6 running RISC OS 5.29. I'd be grateful for any suggestions.

    See what happens if you take LanMan98 v2.08 out of your startup, then
    reboot. Remember LanMan98 is a network application.

    Thanks for the thought but now I've switched to DHCP I no longer see the
    error.

    --
    -------------------------------------------------------------
    Rob Hemmings Southport

    rhnews@dsl.pipex.com

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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to Dave on Mon May 2 23:23:47 2022
    In article <59e26bcbfdnews@triffid.co.uk>,
    Dave <news@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
    In article <59e2658f06rhnews@dsl.pipex.com>,
    Rob Hemmings (News) <rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
    [Snip]

    Mine was configured with a Manual IP address - with the fixed
    address supplied by me. Now I've switched to DHCP it seems to
    work fine.

    Being forced to use DHCP.. Y'all sure this is not a Microsoft
    newsgroup... ;-) <<<<<

    Dave, no-one is forcing you to use the new stack, or DHCP.
    As Andrew said, it is still a work-in-progress.

    I am sure this minor problem will be fixed, now it has been reported
    back to ROD..... I assume you did report it?

    --
    Martin Avison
    Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
    without notice if (when) any spam is received.

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  • From Bernard@21:1/5 to Martin on Tue May 3 07:08:46 2022
    In message <59e259eec9News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
    Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

    I installed it on my ARMX6 and all went well. However, when I
    installed it on my Pi4 with RISC OS 5.29 (2 Apr 2022) it all
    went wrong leaving me with no Internet or networking.

    How did it 'go wrong'? Did it appear to work and re-boot, or did
    it fail with some error before the boot?

    The Network Configuration window opened and stuck there. I
    eventually clicked SAVE and it rebooted.

    Was this just after clicking 'Install then Reboot', but before you saw
    a message "Make sure you have saved any unsaved work, then click
    'Continue' to proceed. Your computer will install the new stack
    components and reboot directly" ? Or after you clicked on Continue?

    On the Install I eventually clicked SAVE followed by 'Reset now'. I saw
    no other messages. On rebooting it displayed the Network configuration
    window again. I then clicked 'Reset later' to get to the desktop.

    I can see no way the Install opens the Config window. Yet.
    Did the Pi4 have ithe old internet installed and working?

    Before !Install was run, the old Internet and networking was working
    fine.

    Now every time it starts up I get the Network Configuration window
    during boot up. If I click SAVE then 'Reset later' I can get to a
    working desktop except network and Internet not working. (Using my
    ARMX6 to reply to this!)

    The !Install program also now fails to work so I can't
    uninstall it either!

    If that is because of an unknown SWI, I suspect you have been
    left with some modules (includung Internet) unplugged. Try
    *RMReinit Internet and see if that enables Install to run.

    The !Install program error is now: 'SWI name not known @ 120'. Line
    120 says: SYS"XSocket_Version,r% TO r% Unplugged modules are:
    Resolver + EtherUSB

    What version does *Help Internet show?
    If it is 7.00 then try *RMKill Internet, then *RMReInit Internet
    Then has v7.00 gone?

    *Help Internet - gives 'No help found'
    *ROM. shows Internet 5.65 module as 'Dormant'.
    + NetFS - NetPrint - MbufManager - Net - Freeway - ShareFS
    EtherGENET - DHCP - ALL SHOW AS DORMANT

    Bernard
    --
    Contact Me - www.bapfish.org.uk/contact/
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  • From Bernard@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Tue May 3 06:36:23 2022
    In message <d09e53e259.chris@mytardis>
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    In message <f7ad4ce259.Bernard@iMX6>
    Bernard <bernard@nospambapfish.org.uk> wrote:

    In message <59e1c20892News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
    Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <da02bde159.chris@mytardis>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <e0dcaae159.Bernard@iMX6>
    Bernard <bernard@nospambapfish.org.uk> wrote:
    In message <59e13eab78newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk>
    John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
    In article <1651319699.947584@slave.orpheusnet.co.uk>,
    Richard Brown <richard@riscosdev.com> wrote:

    New Open Source TCP/IP Stack for RISC OS now available to
    download

    [Snip]

    I installed it on my ARMX6 and all went well. However, when I
    installed it on my Pi4 with RISC OS 5.29 (2 Apr 2022) it all went
    wrong leaving me with no Internet or networking.

    How did it 'go wrong'? Did it appear to work and re-boot, or did it
    fail with some error before the boot?

    The Network Configuration window opened and stuck there.
    I eventually clicked SAVE and it rebooted.

    Now every time it starts up I get the Network Configuration window
    during boot up. If I click SAVE then 'Reset later' I can get to a
    working desktop except network and Internet not working.
    (Using my ARMX6 to reply to this!)

    That sounds like the !InetSetup has not updated correctly

    The !Install program also now fails to work so I can't uninstall
    it either!

    If that is because of an unknown SWI, I suspect you have been left
    with some modules (includung Internet) unplugged. Try *RMReinit
    Internet and see if that enables Install to run.

    The !Install program error is now: 'SWI name not known @ 120'.
    Line 120 says: SYS"XSocket_Version,r% TO r%
    Unplugged modules are: Resolver + EtherUSB

    So it thinks those modules are unplugged

    Is this a standard Pi 4 without any extra HAT's ?

    My Pi4 has 4GB RAM, the official Raspberry Pi 4 case, the official
    Raspberry Pi fan and the CJE Micros Raspberry Pi 4 Real Time Clock Module
    which also controls the fan.

    Bernard
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  • From Dave@21:1/5 to Martin on Tue May 3 07:08:34 2022
    In article <59e27c8d32News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
    Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
    In article <59e26bcbfdnews@triffid.co.uk>,
    Dave <news@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
    In article <59e2658f06rhnews@dsl.pipex.com>,
    Rob Hemmings (News) <rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
    [Snip]

    Mine was configured with a Manual IP address - with the fixed
    address supplied by me. Now I've switched to DHCP it seems to
    work fine.

    Being forced to use DHCP.. Y'all sure this is not a Microsoft
    newsgroup... ;-) <<<<<

    Dave, no-one is forcing you to use the new stack, or DHCP.
    As Andrew said, it is still a work-in-progress.

    I am sure this minor problem will be fixed, now it has been reported
    back to ROD..... I assume you did report it?

    Whoops! Someone didn't notice the " ;-) <<<<<"

    It was a humorous aside... Nothing more... :-)

    Why would I report it... Nothing to report. ;-)

    The RISC OS I use is mostly is 6.20 and if I've been following this thread correctly, it will only work on the other side.


    When it's fixed I'll try it on my RPCEmu 5.28 :-)

    Dave

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  • From Mik Towse@21:1/5 to Dave on Tue May 3 09:26:56 2022
    In article <59e2a71a83news@triffid.co.uk> Dave wrote:
    [snip]

    When it's fixed I'll try it on my RPCEmu 5.28 :-)
    I use VRPC and I assumed this wasn't needed for the emulators. Is his not th case?

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to Bernard on Tue May 3 09:37:28 2022
    In message <471fa7e259.Bernard@iMX6>
    Bernard <bernard@nospambapfish.org.uk> wrote:

    In message <59e259eec9News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
    Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:


    [snip]


    What version does *Help Internet show?
    If it is 7.00 then try *RMKill Internet, then *RMReInit Internet
    Then has v7.00 gone?

    *Help Internet - gives 'No help found'
    *ROM. shows Internet 5.65 module as 'Dormant'.
    + NetFS - NetPrint - MbufManager - Net - Freeway - ShareFS
    EtherGENET - DHCP - ALL SHOW AS DORMANT

    John Ballance has posted the following "Get of Trouble" instructions on
    the ROOL forums:

    GET OUT OF TROUBLE
    In the unlikely event that install fails, and you cannot revert using the uninstall feature then this is what you'll need to do.
    1: delete !!ip6.net
    2: delete !Boot.Choices.Internet.Startup
    3: In !Boot.Utils you should see oldBootRun. IF you do, then delete the
    BootRun file and rename oldBootRun to BootRun
    4: likewise, in !Boot.Resources.Configure you should see old!InetSetup. IF
    you do, then delete !InetSetup and rename old!InetSetup?!InetSetup.

    5: Reboot the machine. You'll have no internet, so several complaints
    through startup.

    6: type *unplug, and then do rmreinit for each of the network modules
    shown as unplugged. As a minimum, MBufManager, Internet, DHCP, and
    Resolver.

    7: reboot the machine again

    8: double click !Boot and run the Network configuration tool. Configure as
    you want and let the machine reboot when it asks.

    9: All should now be OK. If not, did you rmreinit the correct Ether driver (e.g. EtherTH if iMx)?

    If this still fails then please resort to the ticket system to report the
    issue and seek help.




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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to bernard@nospambapfish.org.uk on Tue May 3 09:54:43 2022
    In article <471fa7e259.Bernard@iMX6>, Bernard
    <bernard@nospambapfish.org.uk> wrote:
    The !Install program error is now: 'SWI name not known @ 120'.
    Line 120 says: SYS"XSocket_Version,r% TO r% Unplugged modules
    are: Resolver + EtherUSB

    What version does *Help Internet show?
    If it is 7.00 then try *RMKill Internet, then *RMReInit Internet
    Then has v7.00 gone?

    *Help Internet - gives 'No help found'
    *ROM. shows Internet 5.65 module as 'Dormant'.
    + NetFS - NetPrint - MbufManager - Net - Freeway - ShareFS
    EtherGENET - DHCP - ALL SHOW AS DORMANT

    That is the cause of the Unknown SWI - it is in the Internet module.

    If using *RMReInit Internet does not bring the 5.65 module back to
    life, I suggest you follow some 'Get out of Trouble' instructions that
    John Ballance has now posted - see https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/8/topics/17135?page=4#posts-132446

    It would also be good to report on the ROD bugs list your original
    problem - of opening the network config when installing the new stack,
    as I don't think anyone has reported that yet.

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  • From Paul Oates@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 3 09:59:51 2022
    Delighted to say that with help from Martin I have DHCP up and running and
    the new stack installed.

    regards



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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to Mik Towse on Tue May 3 11:06:35 2022
    In message <59E2B3C588%mik.towse@xemik.com>
    Mik Towse <mik@towse.org.uk> wrote:

    In article <59e2a71a83news@triffid.co.uk> Dave wrote:
    [snip]

    When it's fixed I'll try it on my RPCEmu 5.28 :-)
    I use VRPC and I assumed this wasn't needed for the emulators. Is his not th case?

    That is my understanding too, as VRPC just passes Internet stuff over to
    the Windows Networking.


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  • From Dave@21:1/5 to Mik Towse on Tue May 3 19:01:29 2022
    In article <59E2B3C588%mik.towse@xemik.com>,
    Mik Towse <mik@towse.org.uk> wrote:
    In article <59e2a71a83news@triffid.co.uk> Dave wrote:
    [snip]

    When it's fixed I'll try it on my RPCEmu 5.28 :-)

    I use VRPC and I assumed this wasn't needed for the emulators. Is his
    not th case?

    It is the case with VRPC variants, straight through to Windows.

    However, in my post (You've quoted above) it is "RPCEmu" which is quite a different beast, and with a completely different networking arrangement.

    Dave

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  • From Mik Towse@21:1/5 to Dave on Tue May 3 21:00:20 2022
    In article <59e2e85f7enews@triffid.co.uk> Dave wrote:

    In article <59E2B3C588%mik.towse@xemik.com>,
    Mik Towse <mik@towse.org.uk> wrote:
    In article <59e2a71a83news@triffid.co.uk> Dave wrote:
    [snip]

    When it's fixed I'll try it on my RPCEmu 5.28 :-)

    I use VRPC and I assumed this wasn't needed for the emulators. Is his
    not th case?
    It is the case with VRPC variants, straight through to Windows.

    However, in my post (You've quoted above) it is "RPCEmu" which is quite a different beast, and with a completely different networking arrangement.
    Okay, thanks for clarifying this. :D


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