• Mimemap

    From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 28 15:55:15 2024
    Hi,

    On my FAST machine I have one MimeMap in

    !Boot.Resources.!Internet.files.MimeMap

    as expected.

    However, on my Virtual Acorn machines there appear to be many of them.

    Surely there should be only one. The poor machines must be confused.

    Virtual Acorn Adjust 4.39 Windows 10 RiscBook Lenovo laptop

    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Choices.Default.Internet.Files.MimeMap HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!Flash.Docs.Mimemap HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.310.Modules.Network.MimeMap HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.Modules.Network.MimeMap


    Virtual Acorn Adjust 4.39 Windows 10 Acer netbook


    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Choices.Default.Internet.Files.MimeMap HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.310.Modules.Network.MimeMap HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.Modules.Network.MimeMap HostFS::HardDisc4.$.5DataBase.FireWkzPro.System.!System.310.Modules.Network.MimeMap
    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Comp.''InfoRisc.MimeMaps.MimeMap HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Comp.''InfoRisc.MimeMaps.~Tim.mimemap HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Networking.NF-Store.550.Email.!Messenger.Resources.MimeMap HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Networking.NF-Store.550.Web.WebsterXL.!WebsterXL.Fetchers.!WebFetch.MimeMap
    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Networking.NF-Store.550.Web.WebsterXL.!WebsterXL.Resources.MimeMap

    --
    Chris

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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to Chris Newman on Thu Nov 28 16:15:39 2024
    In article <5bc6f298d8newslists@npost.uk>,
    Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> wrote:
    On my FAST machine I have one MimeMap in
    !Boot.Resources.!Internet.files.MimeMap
    as expected.

    That is the *only* one that is used, assuming variables are set... Inet$MimeMappings : InetDBase:MimeMap
    InetDBase$Path : .....!BOOT.Resources.!Internet.files.

    However, on my Virtual Acorn machines there appear to be many of
    them.

    Surely there should be only one. The poor machines must be
    confused.

    Virtual Acorn Adjust 4.39 Windows 10 RiscBook Lenovo laptop

    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Choices.Default.Internet.Files.MimeMap

    Check the variables as above - RO4 did move things around.

    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!Flash.Docs.Mimemap

    Sounds like some documentation?

    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.310.Modules.Network.Mime
    Map
    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.Modules.Network.MimeMap

    Probably copies of the MimeMap *module*, not the text file list.
    In RO5 the module is in the ROM, not on disc.

    Virtual Acorn Adjust 4.39 Windows 10 Acer netbook

    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Choices.Default.Internet.Files.MimeMap

    See above for RO4

    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.310.Modules.Network.Mime
    Map
    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.Modules.Network.MimeMap HostFS::HardDisc4.$.5DataBase.FireWkzPro.System.!System.310.Modules. Network.MimeMap

    All modules?

    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Comp.''InfoRisc.MimeMaps.MimeMap HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Comp.''InfoRisc.MimeMaps.~Tim.mimemap HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Networking.NF-Store.550.Email.!Messenger.Resourc es.MimeMap HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Networking.NF-Store.550.Web.WebsterXL.!WebsterXL .Fetchers.!WebFetch.MimeMap HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Networking.NF-Store.550.Web.WebsterXL.!WebsterXL .Resources.MimeMap

    No idea. What are those files?

    --
    Martin Avison
    Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
    without notice if (when) any spam is received.

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to Martin on Fri Nov 29 20:25:03 2024
    In article <5bc6f47668News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
    Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
    In article <5bc6f298d8newslists@npost.uk>,
    Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> wrote:
    On my FAST machine I have one MimeMap in
    !Boot.Resources.!Internet.files.MimeMap
    as expected.

    That is the *only* one that is used, assuming variables are set... Inet$MimeMappings : InetDBase:MimeMap
    InetDBase$Path : .....!BOOT.Resources.!Internet.files.

    However, on my Virtual Acorn machines there appear to be many of
    them.

    Surely there should be only one. The poor machines must be
    confused.

    Virtual Acorn Adjust 4.39 Windows 10 RiscBook Lenovo laptop

    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Choices.Default.Internet.Files.MimeMap

    Check the variables as above - RO4 did move things around.

    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!Flash.Docs.Mimemap

    Sounds like some documentation?

    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.310.Modules.Network.Mime
    Map
    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.Modules.Network.MimeMap

    Probably copies of the MimeMap *module*, not the text file list.
    In RO5 the module is in the ROM, not on disc.

    Virtual Acorn Adjust 4.39 Windows 10 Acer netbook

    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Choices.Default.Internet.Files.MimeMap

    See above for RO4

    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.310.Modules.Network.Mime
    Map
    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.Modules.Network.MimeMap HostFS::HardDisc4.$.5DataBase.FireWkzPro.System.!System.310.Modules. Network.MimeMap

    All modules?

    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Comp.''InfoRisc.MimeMaps.MimeMap HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Comp.''InfoRisc.MimeMaps.~Tim.mimemap HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Networking.NF-Store.550.Email.!Messenger.Resourc es.MimeMap HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Networking.NF-Store.550.Web.WebsterXL.!WebsterXL .Fetchers.!WebFetch.MimeMap HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Networking.NF-Store.550.Web.WebsterXL.!WebsterXL .Resources.MimeMap

    No idea. What are those files?
    Thans Martin. I'll have to slowly investigate each one. I have no idea
    why so many modules.

    --
    Chris

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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to Chris Newman on Fri Nov 29 23:11:18 2024
    In article <5bc78f21adnewslists@npost.uk>,
    Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> wrote:
    Thans Martin. I'll have to slowly investigate each one. I have no
    idea why so many modules.

    If a module version has restrictions on which versions of RISC OS it
    can be used on, there can be different versions of modules in the
    boot sequence. This enables the boot sequence to run on different
    versions of RISC OS with the right version of module. I would leave
    Modules alone, unless you are brave!

    --
    Martin Avison
    Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
    without notice if (when) any spam is received.

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  • From Steve Fryatt@21:1/5 to Chris Newman on Fri Nov 29 23:28:31 2024
    On 29 Nov, Chris Newman wrote in message
    <5bc78f21adnewslists@npost.uk>:

    I'll have to slowly investigate each one.

    What do you hope to achieve?

    --
    Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

    http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to Steve Fryatt on Sat Nov 30 11:35:11 2024
    In article <mpro.snqjvd00f5ykw09xd.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
    Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
    On 29 Nov, Chris Newman wrote in message
    <5bc78f21adnewslists@npost.uk>:

    I'll have to slowly investigate each one.

    What do you hope to achieve?

    I've been constructing a lecture about the Gennett recording studio and
    early jazz. I've found the audio tracks I'd like to use but they are in
    various formats. I'm using OHP on RISC OS so I need to convert all to a
    format RISC OS can use eg WAV. Andre Temmermans Digital CD has a list of supported file formats so I wanted to ensure my mimemap was up to date
    with the appropriate extensions/filetypes but it would be helpful if I
    only needed to update whatever the main copy is on each machine, not all
    the separate iterations.

    --
    Chris

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  • From Steve Fryatt@21:1/5 to Chris Newman on Sat Nov 30 12:41:38 2024
    On 30 Nov, Chris Newman wrote in message
    <5bc7e2756anewslists@npost.uk>:

    In article <mpro.snqjvd00f5ykw09xd.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
    Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
    On 29 Nov, Chris Newman wrote in message
    <5bc78f21adnewslists@npost.uk>:

    I'll have to slowly investigate each one.

    What do you hope to achieve?

    I wanted to ensure my mimemap was up to date with the appropriate extensions/filetypes but it would be helpful if I only needed to update whatever the main copy is on each machine, not all the separate
    iterations.

    So Martin has answered that one: it's the text file pointed to by Inet$MimeMappings. Other text files will be ignored, and the system will
    ensure that a suitable MimeMap module is loaded.

    There's certainly no need to investigate each module, and there's probably little benefit to checking all of the alternative mappings files -- just because something was supplied with WebsterXL in the 00s doesn't mean that
    it's correct today!

    The version that comes with RISC OS 5 is probably fairly comprehensive. Tim Hill used to maintain a "complete" file, too. There's a lot to be said for keeping a standard set of mappings across all of your computers, so that
    things don't change types when moved between them. But AFAIK the problem of producing a definitive set of mappings has largely been sorted now, so
    rolling your own seems like a lot of duplicated effort.

    --
    Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

    http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to news@stevefryatt.org.uk on Sat Nov 30 13:29:09 2024
    In article <mpro.snrkl900gh5wd043i.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:


    The version that comes with RISC OS 5 is probably fairly comprehensive.
    Tim Hill used to maintain a "complete" file, too. There's a lot to be
    said for keeping a standard set of mappings across all of your
    computers, so that things don't change types when moved between them.
    But AFAIK the problem of producing a definitive set of mappings has
    largely been sorted now, so rolling your own seems like a lot of
    duplicated effort.

    Quite so but I did think I spotted a couple of things in the Digital CD
    which weren't in my list. No biggie. I'll investigate when I have more
    time. My Round Tuitt got smashed. ;-)

    --
    Chris

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